Stock Verizon GN3, Stock Message App.
This seems to be a new problem, but whenever I try to send texts with more than 160 characters, it just fails to send. If I reduce the text to 160 or under, it sends just fine. When I first found the problem of it not sending, I pulled the battery and SIM card, and if I remember right, it then did send the long text. But it stopped again shortly after.
I have looked through all the settings, but don't see anything that would automatically split it into 2 texts, or anything else relevant.
Is this an inherent limitation of the Stock Messaging App that I've only just noticed, or something not working right?
I've seen suggestions to switch to Handcent or other App, and I might do this, but would like to get the Stock App to handle this properly if possible.
Thanks.
Any text over 160 characters your phone converts the message to a MMS message that uses your data connection instead of your cell signal like a SMS message..Now I think this is a Verizon thing but if u use wanams xposed module or the other xposed modules that will stop the conversion to MMS and just split the text... that is the only way I know to change it without editing the code....
Sent from my VZW Note3..ha..ha..
Janker5050 said:
Any text over 160 characters your phone converts the message to a MMS message that uses your data connection instead of your cell signal like a SMS message..Now I think this is a Verizon thing but if u use wanams xposed module or the other xposed modules that will stop the conversion to MMS and just split the text... that is the only way I know to change it without editing the code....
Sent from my VZW Note3..ha..ha..
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Thanks for the reply.
If it just converts it to MMS, then it should still just send, and not fail. I understand that it'll use my Data connection, rather than the cell signal, but this shouldn't be a problem: I have Verizon's 3G Network Extender in my home (since my home has poor reception), and I'm sitting right next to it, and a strong WiFi signal available from my ISP, for data.
If this is the case, I still don't understand why it would fail to send, even as an MMS??
Verizon sets up MMS service so that it is only available across a mobile data connection, so your wifi shouldn't be playing a role. And SMS service (which is much older technology than MMS and doesn't use the same "mobile data" link as MMS) also uses the cell radio exclusively.
I use the stock messaging app for texts over 160 characters without a problem (it turns them into MMS as the prior respondent mentioned), but I am on MJ7. Don't know if that makes a difference.
I wonder if it is a bug relating to your use of a network extender? You would know if you got a different result when sending texts > 160 chars when you were on VZW's regular network away from your place.
I recently helped my sister out with a similar set of troubles, and the problem turned out that her (at&t) range extender was hung/frozen.
If that was the case, you would have erratic "trouble" sending any MMS messages. In any event, you should see the "network extender icon" in your notification bar - but it might be useful to verify that you do have a data connection through the extender (turn off WiFi and see if you can still browse).
It won't hurt to power cycle the extender, wait for all it's status lights come up correctly, and then see if that changes anything. (You can send yourself text messages).
Hope that helps.
Try and send yourself or somebody a picture message and report if it goes through fine so we can eliminated any MMS problems..and MMS won't send from wifi...only 3 or 4g
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Thanks for the added ideas and suggestions guys. I had wondered if the Network Extender might be mucking things up. I'll explore the various trouble-shooting steps you both suggested, and track it down.
Will re-post if problems persist.
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Hello,
I seem to be having an issue with the time stamps on my text messages. The ones that I send are okay, however the ones that I receive all have different times on them. For example:
If I send a text at 8:15PM and receive a reply right away, it'll show my text sent at 8:15PM, but the reply will have a back dated time... Maybe 5PM, 4PM... something like that.
Any ideas why?
Thanks!
I find this but its by no means universal. some messages I recive are an hour ahead others are not. I recived two messages at almost the same time & one of them had the wrong time. I can't wait for the new update to fix all of these little issues
I've seen this problem since my G1. It's still suffering from it, as is my Magic and my Hero.
I'm still having the same issue.
My received text messages show a time of 4 hours behind.
So if I send a text at 6:30 and receive a reply at 6:32, it shows 2:32 as the received time.
Does anyone know if there's a fix for this? I have updated to the latest (leaked) firmware, but still no luck.
Thanks!
Are you all on the same network? Might not be the phone because i've never noticed this
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Are you all on the same network? Might not be the phone because i've never noticed this
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Was just going to ask this... What network are you on, have you set network location to automatic by carrier, if so, set it manually to the city / country you are in.
I'm on O2 and have been using the network provided values.
I've set it to manual and text someone at 12:44. The reply came in a little while after and was stamped 12:45 so no issue there it seems. Strange.
I'm now getting issues now with texts in fairly quick succession.
The time stamps can be the same i.e. 21:17 but a reply from someone will sometimes appear before my original text in thread view.
Also a reply came in to one of my texts with a time stamp before my original text. This was displayed "correctly" as before my text, but the fact its timestamped in this way can't be right.
Anyone else seen this?
It's like the phone is looking at minutes for accuracy, not seconds. Also taking the timestamp of when a text was sent from the other person's phone as the time received to my phone. Hm :/
I get this on Orange when I receive a message from the US. All my outgoing messages are listed at the bottom of the conversation, while the one received from the US are at the top.
UK based conversations are all threaded correctly.
Ok thanks.
It never used to be like this so I'm wondering after prolonged use the sms database gets a bit corrupted somehow?
For me it seems to behave like this: for outgoing (sent) messages I see the time that is set on Hero. For incoming messages, however, Hero shows the time on the network provider.
I assume there is some header in SMS message containing the time, and Hero uses that instead of using the time Hero has when the message arrives.
I started using the Network Provider time (automatic) to get rid of this.
Through a series of weird events I have ended up with a gsm unlocked imagio and no VZW service any longer. No sweat I still have an auxilary line with att. I have gone through all the data settings. Destroyed the connection guardian and unblocked the server edit for arcsoft. Everything works great. Data, SMS, Sending MMS. The only issue I am running into is recieving MMS. I get the messages most of the time but they all say "Message not found". No picture, no text other than the error. MMS settings in arcsoft have been checked over and over. All the searching on the web has yielded no results. Any pro willing to help with the settings/registry tweaks required to get this up and running?
I am having this same problem I have tried about everything I could think of to get it working.
x3 on this issue. Regular text message I get no problem but MMS with pic or anything else I get "Message not Found" I can send without any issues
MMS on ATT
Same here. Very frustrating.
I am right here with you guys...same issue and all the same registry file changes made. But still yeilding the same results "Message Not Found". The one conclusion that I can assertain is that it is not opening up into the message program. The file data recieves on mine it is almost like it cant find the appropriate program to open or the file extension when recieved on the phone and points to a Verizon Specific app???
Ok since posting my last message on not being able to receive pics via mms, I have done some work on the phone and ROM-Graded to the Sense Rom and everything seems to be working fine with pic message retrieval using HTC messaging...If I go back to the Arcsoft threaded messaging mode it will not still retrieve the pics even after the ROM-Grade. So a work around if your up for it updating the ROM has helped and it also got rid of ALL the Verizon bloatware and crap too...Bonus! I have been running this way for several weeks now and it seems to really be the solution.
I'm currently forced to use WiFi instead of data to access the internet. Since I'm now leaving WiFi on all the time, I can no longer send SMS messages. And I'm not sure I'm receiving them. Is that normal? Is there some sort of setting I need to change? Or is this the old SMS bug from the past?
Thanks.
-Bob-
Pretty sure you have to have data access to send SMS, as it's phone number based, so phone service is required.
there shouldn't be a problem sending and receiving txts when wifi is on.I surf over wifi all day long with no phone issues.
samsamuel said:
there shouldn't be a problem sending and receiving txts when wifi is on.I surf over wifi all day long with no phone issues.
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The strange thing is that NOW I'm receiving and able to send with wi-fi on.
Guess I'll have to turn on "Request delivery report" for now and hope I receive my messages.
It's odd that after 3 months, I've suddenly experienced the dreaded SMS bug.
BTW, can anyone tell me how to access the out box to see if the unsent messages are there?
-Bob-
on the messaging tab,
all messages - menu - settings - traditional mode. makes it easier to switch between in and out box etc.
the outbox usually keeps the messages those could not be sent ... if there 're any of it so ur suppose is ture..and i think there is a number u can define to send a message...not sure about hd2 but xperia x1 my phone automatically get the config...
jhonnyD2 said:
the outbox usually keeps the messages those could not be sent ... if there 're any of it so ur suppose is ture..and i think there is a number u can define to send a message...not sure about hd2 but xperia x1 my phone automatically get the config...
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you mean the sms service center number.
settings tab - menu all settings - personal - phone - gsm umts settings tab scroll down to text messaging and voice mail - get settings.
samsamuel said:
on the messaging tab,
all messages - menu - settings - traditional mode. makes it easier to switch between in and out box etc.
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Well...no unsent messages!? The "Sent Items" shows all my messages as having been sent, but I know they weren't received. Now I'm starting to wonder if there isn't some user error on my part.
-Bob-
could also simply be your network playing silly buggers .
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could also simply be your network playing silly buggers .
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I agree.
SMS was never designed to be instantaneous, and networks will argue this case.
Wait a few days beforehand, then ask your network provider if they do not appear, it may be a 'stuck' SMS in the network's system causing issues.
I've known a text message to take 363 days to arrive...
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I agree.
SMS was never designed to be instantaneous, and networks will argue this case.
Wait a few days beforehand, then ask your network provider if they do not appear, it may be a 'stuck' SMS in the network's system causing issues.
I've known a text message to take 363 days to arrive...
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The messages that I sent at 8:00 this morning, that were not received, suddenly flooded into the recipient's phones at 11:00. Since they weren't sitting on my phone, as far as I could tell, I guess T-Mobile was hanging on to them. Odd. That's never happened before.
-Bob-
I am having trouble texting mesages with picture attachments and I cannot receive them. My friend texted me a 123kb size picture. When I press download it says downloading but it never finishes or even starts. I tried texting myself a pic and it won't even send it (it just says sending forever). I am running 2.3.1 (I think) so can I fix this with an update or is this problem a result of something else.
I'm not quite sure if there is an update that fixes that. But I know that there is a option in your stock SMS that auto retrieves pic msgs. Make sure that's checked. And make sure your getting data connection (signal bar should be green)
Disclaimer: not a tech genius just putting in my two cents. Hope it helps a little.
mac227 said:
I am having trouble texting mesages with picture attachments and I cannot receive them. My friend texted me a 123kb size picture. When I press download it says downloading but it never finishes or even starts. I tried texting myself a pic and it won't even send it (it just says sending forever). I am running 2.3.1 (I think) so can I fix this with an update or is this problem a result of something else.
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must be something wrong with your MMS settings. MMS has always worked for me on every version 2.3 up to 2.3.3.
Has your account been enabled for MMS?
I have unlimited texting on my t-mobile account. On my old phone (non smartphone) I would send and receive pics with now problems whatsoever.
I chacked the setting to my sms and I have the auto retrive messages checked. I don't see anything that says auto retrieve mms or anything like that. I have 2 green bars of signal and tried sending the pics and it still doesn't send or receive. This is frustrating.
nevermind, problem solved--I did not have data enabled or access points set.
It seems this should not work, but after I subscribed to a data plan for my 2013 Nexus 7 (Android 4.4.4), I was able to receive SMS messages.
They first shows up in the top left status bar, as an envelope icon, and with the first part of the message displayed, and when I expand the left drop-down menu and click on the message, it brings up the full dialog. Once I click on the "Done" button, it disappears forever. The whole thing seems to be driven by the "Simple message receiver" (see attached screenshot).
I did not mod the device in any way (well, I did enable root). I did install Pinger and some other apps to be able to talk and text via Internet (Wifi only so far), but since I got my data plan, I can receive messages without problems (even two-step authorizations from Google — which never went through on the other apps).
So, it seems the SMS capability is still there, and all those fancy workarounds that are being talked about around here are not really needed, or am I missing something? And if so, what else do I need to save the received messages, and to send my own?
The device was bought, new and unlocked, in the Czech Republic, and is now being used in Canada on a pure data plan on Fido (fido.ca/web/content/monthly/ipad_plans).
As far as I know it is completely normal for a tablet to be able to receive texts.
For example, here in Germany your provider sends you a text message once you get close to reaching the limit of your data plan. They couldn't send you that message of your device can't receive texts.
Whether you are able to send texts also depends on the contract with your provider. For example, the provider that I work for offers data plans that are for data only. You can't send texts or make calls with the card, even if your device would support it.
Google threatened to remove this functionality from nexus tablets, but then probably received some suggestions from network operators (banks), as they are using same mobile network connection to send pins or authentication passwords, billing info and other information to devices, using device's mobile number via SMS.
So seems - they had to put it back.
Yeah, the information I found was a bit contradictory (especially with the different builds, models, and Android versions), so I guess basic receiving may be available on all.
So, with that in mind, I did install the Xposed SMS module, and I now have full SMS functionality (notifications, sending, receiving, and records of previous conversations).