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Improve icecream Roms performance(ram usage)

hey guyz.i,ve been using Arconium ICS and i noticed Phone app and setting open terribly slow.so here is what i did to get them smoother.
just go to setting ,developer options and choose at most 2 processes from background procces limit bar.don,t choose don,t keep activities cause it will kill launcher every time.try and see for your selves.hope this helps

anybody else tried this?

use my touchscreen, responsiveness and battery tweaks from the android development subforum for xperia arc. i have been read the last post about the governor and the rampling too. i've been ggetting over 18 hours on an average already. (those tweaks were for the ics beta, i bet i can tweak it more).

I am having problems with some games like Backstab and real racing 2..they crash when they load..I think it's a matter of a driver issue and not related to RAM availability..

omarfaieq007 said:
I am having problems with some games like Backstab and real racing 2..they crash when they load..I think it's a matter of a driver issue and not related to RAM availability..
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games use a lot of ram. getting out of ram can cause FCs. (try reducing your vm heap to 20 and see what it does to the other apps )

Thanks for sharing bro, it just help to improve responsiveness a little bit. It's really annoying that when u tap the dialer and few seconds later it appear...lol

are u kerenl is doom v4?
orgain kerenl is slow

Guys, just supercharge your phone. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533044
It's working great for me on stock ICS and just wanted to share.
After you supercharge the dialer & sms apps only lag the "first" time you open them after a reboot. After that they open pretty much instantaneously (unless you run a massive app which uses all the phones memory) in which case it will lag the first time after closing the massive app.
You can bullet proof apps of your choice including dialer, sms, launcher etc.
For me the overall smoothness of ICS is noticable.

sss22213 said:
are u kerenl is doom v4?
orgain kerenl is slow
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yes.i OC to 1.4ghz

adielee said:
Guys, just supercharge your phone. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533044
It's working great for me on stock ICS and just wanted to share.
After you supercharge the dialer & sms apps only lag the "first" time you open them after a reboot. After that they open pretty much instantaneously (unless you run a massive app which uses all the phones memory) in which case it will lag the first time after closing the massive app.
You can bullet proof apps of your choice including dialer, sms, launcher etc.
For me the overall smoothness of ICS is noticable.
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This is definitely the way to go! Don't go crazy and bulletproof everything or else you'll end up with the same problem but definitely do the basics and you'll notice a difference for sure, without having to drop down to 2 background processes.

hootnath said:
games use a lot of ram. getting out of ram can cause FCs. (try reducing your vm heap to 20 and see what it does to the other apps )
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can u help me a little further??I don't know how to achieve that..thanks in advance friend

Gaming rom

What is the best rom/firmware for gaming ?
In the ICS roms its reboot a loot.
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Stock gingerbread with DooMKerneL. Remove bloatware apps and stop excess services. Can't get a better gaming experience than that (though some say V6 supercharger helps)

Can someone give me the links ?
What gingerbread ?
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Stock is defintely what you want for gaming alright. I'd go with a stock based ROM so that most of the bloat is removed for you and not weighing down your device.
Something like JokaWild.
EDIT: by the sounds of it, you are going to have to do some research. Start by looking into flashtool.
Just noticed my above comment may have sounded condescending. It wasn't meant to be. Since you have flashed ICS successfully, I imagine you know how to flash a stock ROM.

From my experience Jokawild was the best gingerbread rom for gaming
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What's v6 supercharger, and where i can find it ??
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I could lambaste you for not using the search function but I know how crappy (non-existent) the search function is with tapatalk
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276

What about for a R800x?

I have tried several different ROMS and not that these other ROMs are not awesome in their own right. But I always come back to my nandroid of stock Android 2.3.3
I rooted, then deleted all bloat in the system folder, and all the other apps that can be reinstalled to SDcard, map, talk, gmail, etc. I have around 180mb of free space according to my system/apps folder. I then used V6 Supercharger and set everything to aggressive with Nitro Lag. Now my phone is super speedy. I have no lag anywhere, all games play buttery smooth including GL games. I also am using DoomKernel by DoomLord and No Frills set to Performance, CFQ at 1.2ghz (dont like to OC too much just a tiny little bump)
And I also have a Sandisk Mobile Ultra 32GB HC-I MicroSD card. Was using a class 4 sandisk proir an this card was on sale on a camera site for $30, figured why not and got it, saw a difference with GL games as well, before they were smooth with an occasional slight stutter but now its all good.
Just found it, its $3 more then what I paid but still a great price and this card is awesome.
http://www.adorama.com/IDSMUMSD32G....ansactionalEmail&utm_campaign=2point0Product1

hackthis02 said:
What about for a R800x?
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^This.

So, I'm using an ICS rom with the new Adreno drivers, and I get better performance on Fifa 12 then I got with Gingerbread. Is there a way to install the new Adreno drivers on Gingerbread?

I have tried most to all the roms as well and I will say I got the best gaming performance with the stock 2.3.3 rom (bloatware free) with doom's kernel. This had not only the best performance but also worked with most to all games.
I would of put 2.3.4 but gmail and google voice still wont auto sync. Once verizon decides to wake up then jump to 2.3.4. Hope this helps.
You will need to use flash tool (thread) to do all your kernel and FTF flashing.
Flash this: 2.3.3 FTF
Flash this: DoomKernel + Wifi modules (thread)
Boot up like normal and go through the setup. After that install titanium backup and start ripping out all that Verizon junk.
Install SetCPU and find your overclock sweet spot. Dont forget to set a profile to underclock you phone for when your batteries low. (I found that smartassV2 scaling gave me the best performance/battery life with a 1.6 Ghz overclock.)
This is for a r800x (Verizon)

That's pretty much what I did. I have the stock overclocked kernel, which isn't overclocked, but SetCPU is set to overclock to 1.6Ghz when any of my games are running.

Thread Closed, Thank You.

[Q] Is our device able to run Temple Run smoothly?

Hey,
maybe it is a lil bit silly question but I have to ask:
Is the I9000 able to run Temple Run real smooth? It runs stuttery on my Device with Semaphore + Slim ICS on default Settings but even though on OC Settings too.
The thing is: On my SO's iPhone 3GS it runs without any problems? So is it maybe a ROM Issue or is the I9000 Gaming Perfomance really worse the 3gs performance?
Thanks
rest0ck

Mine runs perfectly with CM9 nightly and with semaphore... Try changing governor to like...smartass?
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Runs fine for me
Runs fine here as well, I'm on SlimICS 4.2 with stock kernel no overclocking.
Try the latest version from the devs site http://www.slimroms.com/

I tried everything. I was on Slim ICS 4.2 with Semaphore 1.2.5 - tried every governor (Performance, Smartass) but still stuttery.
Now I installed another Rom which is CM9 based and ..still stuttery (RemiICS). I don't have installed that much + synchonisation is for most addons disabled. WiFi enabled. Any other app is closed. Sometimes it tuns smooth, sometimes it's not playable, sometimes there a lil bit of lag. I even tried HugeRam enabled :/

http://db.tt/ajksT8Fh
Just wait a few days
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Hmmm... Try to Google for V6 supercharger... It might work ;D
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Runs fine on ICS333, and it ran fine on elite,with semaphore. Both are very minimalistic aosp roms, I'm not going to say that they definitely perform better that slim or remics, but worth a try?
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Even you can't do this on FakPhone4Stupid

burakgon said:
Even you can't do this on FakPhone4Stupid
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awesome :good:

what rom you are using? im using cm7.2 and it was very laggy.
what kernel should i use? is there a kernel for cm7.2?

You can't compare the gaming performance with the iPhone, because iOS is optimised for apps and games. Apps and games is like the main purpose of iOS.
On android the focus is more for multitasking, media handling etc so the optimisation for games is not as good, even if we have better hardware.
It's just like how even a dual core phone cannot play a NDS game through emulator as smooth as a NDS itself, even though the processor in the NDS is about 100-300MHz.
Hmm, try using a task manager to get rid of the background processes, get rid of bloatware in your phone etc. Hope it helps!
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Slim and semaphore, no o/c runs smooth as silk

on 2.3 it laggs like hell
but on ics it is super smooth:good:

Mazzstrikers said:
You can't compare the gaming performance with the iPhone, because iOS is optimised for apps and games. Apps and games is like the main purpose of iOS.
On android the focus is more for multitasking, media handling etc so the optimisation for games is not as good, even if we have better hardware.
It's just like how even a dual core phone cannot play a NDS game through emulator as smooth as a NDS itself, even though the processor in the NDS is about 100-300MHz.
Hmm, try using a task manager to get rid of the background processes, get rid of bloatware in your phone etc. Hope it helps!
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This is something I never really thought about. It does make sense
But .. on the other hand. When Multitasking was possible in iOS (or isnt it really possible it just pauses other apps?) it doesnt affect the game performance?

rest0ck said:
This is something I never really thought about. It does make sense
But .. on the other hand. When Multitasking was possible in iOS (or isnt it really possible it just pauses other apps?) it doesnt affect the game performance?
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It won't affect game performance in iOS because, iOS does not perform true multitasking. Android does!
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That's true.They say ios has "multitasking"
BUT .This feature is like,when you are browsing on the web,your navigation app is"calculating route".
You see? ios pauses apps which are not set primary by user...
Well if guys now one more thing.From news.
In Finland,a boy was nearly getting killed by iphone!yes.Phone exploaded in his pocket...He was so lucky damn!
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WorkED fine here as well CM9 nightly with stock kernel....as about iphone, android game isnt nearly as optimised as iphone one
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YES
just use CM9 OR AOKP man and it will work smoothly..

on DarkyROM v11 black edition with Semaphore ICS 1.2.5 runs great!!!!!

But why isn't it possible to set a "high priority" or something else so I can focus on the game I play and my browser in the background just ..pauses? Won't that be great? ;/
Btw I tried CM9 but had a few problems (wasnt able to download apps after I set dpi back to 240 and got bootloop after installing Semaphore (correct version)) so I did a complete new installation of Slim ICS with everything wiped, even system.
At the time it is pretty smooth but sometimes but I hadn't the time to really test it (2 games so far) - btw I'm currently using midnight ICS Kernel with Ondemand governor. Was a midnight-gb fan and even thought it is outdated and discontinued I still think it's a really nice kernel. But in case I get rnd reboots or performance issues I'll give Semaphore another try.

An Idea for efficient ram usage [for gaming]

The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)
I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.
At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.
If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.
P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one .
EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.

Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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huskyT said:
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.

I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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kogli said:
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
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Too expensive xDD
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Try Greenify
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
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Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.
But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.
If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now .

Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Still many people have sgs
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Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Well over 25 million sgs1 have been sold, and all of them don't have enough money to upgrade anytime soon.
Also the need of such high specs is because apps run in parallel in background.If such a project to develop psuedo-multi tasking is started and completed, then there won't be any need of upgrading ur phone at all(even other low ram phones will benefit from it). But such a project requires great deal of work with how the system works internally, it will require great devs (which we have ) so maybe something can happen :fingers-crossed:.
I know that our phones are strong enough to handle any app one at a time(i disabled all background services possible and set phone to purge any activity as soon as it exits and set background app limit to 0 , using 439mb ram option in devil kernel with sick sky launcher), so i had upto 230 mb ram free when i checked it in settings app(which uses 30 mb ram itself) . With such a setup and oc to 1.2 ghz, i have been able to play real racing 3 with medium graphics(modded)(played at level of graphics of iphone 4) on my phone with almost no lag.

Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device

mrjraider said:
As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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Yes if you notice devs have left and those who stayed have many projects and so the development goes slow until it stopps :/
Many of us dont have the money to move to a new device so well just see whats going to happen fingeres crossed it all goes okay
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Im still on modified gingerbread. xD

Use greenify search for it in the play store
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Couldn't this easily be achieved with a swappiness tweak? Write any app that isn't in focus onto the swap partition so no background apps are in memory, would make the system **** tier slow though for anything but gaming.
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Delete bloatware,disable unnecessary services without disabling whole app with DisableServices app ( you can find it on google store,and it's free), install busybox pro and run RAM manager Pro, and last step would be to try installing soem custom Roms which probably could give better performance to you.

A good setup for gaming
For those people who want to obtain maximum performance from games, here are some tips which i have found over the 3 years i have had this phone:
1) The best kernel for gaming which i have used would be devil kernel (jb 4.2) , purely because of a 439 mb ram optionum amount of ram which can be found usable at the moment. This mode however disables the camera completely. Also it has options for overclocking.
I personally use the 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz clock speed for processor.
2) Try to use a debloated rom, and then try to use as less gapps as possible i.e. try to use the slim version of the gapps for the rom or install the gapps which u require manually. The gapps are not shown normally but under google services so u cant hibernate them with greenify. SO its better to not have unused gapps and features like face unlock ets.
3) Instead of using task managers, use greenify so that apps do not restart again. And try to hibernate all apps which u dont require. Apps like facebook, g+ and whatsapp are the biggest ram hoggers. Also beware of google maps cuz it does not hibernates(uses 30-40 mb ram)
4) Disable services like email exchange etc which are not used by you at all.
5)I have seen that restarting the phone helps get rid of some google core services, giving more free ram.
6) There is an option in developer settings at the bottom in apps section, set background app limit to none and also check the option "don't keep activities". Do this just before gaming and then undo them after ur done or else it will prevent any form of multi tasking.
7)Try to use light weight launchers, and no widgets(as these themselve are like an extra process which need to run in background). I am using sicksky launcher(uses just 18 mb). other options are zeam and lightning launcher.
NOTE : anyone using stock samsung rom (2.3.6), they should switch over to a custom rom, because samsung rom is completely not for gamers. most of the system processes are hard to kill , also total available ram is only (316-330) vs jb ( total ram usable is 390- 439). However if
u dont wanna change ur rom, greenify will still help, also disabling services.
Conclusion: I am using gamerzrom v4, with devil kernel using 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz oc.
I have had no lags in all temple runs (including oz), subway surfer and rr3 on medium graphics, nfs mw. normally using the above tips i have 180-210 + <ram used by settings app> ram free at any moment when i'm checking free ram in settings->apps->running (settings itself is a process and to see total free ram add the amount used by settings to free ram).
Also i have observed that the game devs(mainly gameloft and glu) have now begun to put our phone in low power gpu category(not totally incorrect for an unmodded sgs but not true if u have use the above tricks(especially oc and ram mod)).
so these games often can be modded for higher graphics (various mods on xda for games like nfs mw, rr3, asphalt 7, nova 3 etc) so they can be played with better graphics without lag. I have tried nfs mw mod, asphalt 7 mod, rr3 mod and they all work pretty good on medium(not available normally).
i would love it if more people share their tips on how they keep their phones going strong

Saw this Forum, Even tho im not a Samsung GS1 User, My Buddy has one and i recently gave him my ADJ Values that i use on my Xperia Play (same specs as ur device...) and he said he could do Gaming, Multitasking, and All sorts of more,
Here it is:
Code:
# Pro Gamer ADJ 1.3 By Pizza_Dox
ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ=0
ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ=3
ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ=2
ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ=3
ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ=15
ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ=7
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ=3
ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ=15
Also if u Wanna Keep the Home Launcher in Ram do this Instead of This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
Replace with This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Oh and to apply them just copy to build.prop but make sure their arnt any other ADJ Values, then once done save and reboot!
Hope this helped,
Oh btw try VmLagTunner before Playing Games, Or install Permanently!

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darkknigh_t said:
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer

Dandry said:
Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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I dont know about that im running gamerzrom 4.2 and its running great i think 4.2 can run fine just needs a little more work and time but yea will have to move on to a new phone :/
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[Q] A weird kind of lag in N910C 5.0.1

I just installed android 5.0.1 (Boc3) on my N910CQ and everything works fine and feels like butter
except one thing:recent apps section.Its not the recent apps button but scrolling in the card stack and closing apps is lags so much.I didint find anything like that in the web
Do anyone else experiencing the same issues as i am ?
Thanks

I'm actually having the same problem. Recent apps button lags and the interface itself within the recent app list is a bit laggy too.
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Anyone could help us

Same here. I even replaced my default launcher with Nova. UI is now a bit faster than before (still noticeable lags) but the recent apps still lags too much. Same as closing recent apps. Mine is N910C

Same.. Downgraded to KK. 5.0.1 update is the worst update I think

I never had any lag on my device, pure stock.
I'm however using the F model on 4.4.4.
Kind regards, Stefan.

Man i have the same problem here it seems that the phone is always in power saving mode and the gpu is limited to 350 mhz instead of 700 mhz. Also the cpu runs at 1.3 ghz instead of 1.9 for the big cores thats why it has low score in antutu hope somebody figures out a solution and also this is a bug in this update
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