[SOLVED][Q] Will flashing the latest official firmware relock the bootloader? - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Greetings to you all, will be getting my Droid RAZR M tomorrow so this is my 1st post around here
Alright, coming from a Photon Q, I have much experience with flashing custom ROMs, recoveries, etc. What I am now concerned with is that, from what I've read in some threads, the latest official firmware (98.30.1) and the one before it "locks the BL".
I purchased both my Photon Q and RAZR M from my resellers in pre-unlocked condition (i.e. they were on ICS and BL unlocked), and flashing the latest firmware on the Photon Q doesn't relock BL. If it DOES relock BL on RAZR M, does that mean if I want custom ROMs, I should start the steps directly from ICS? Then how would I be able to get the latest radios, BL and other additions (potentially affects custom ROMs)?
Thank you in advance for any clarification.
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AndyYan said:
Greetings to you all, will be getting my Droid RAZR M tomorrow so this is my 1st post around here
Alright, coming from a Photon Q, I have much experience with flashing custom ROMs, recoveries, etc. What I am now concerned with is that, from what I've read in some threads, the latest official firmware (98.30.1) and the one before it "locks the BL".
I purchased both my Photon Q and RAZR M from my resellers in pre-unlocked condition (i.e. they were on ICS and BL unlocked), and flashing the latest firmware on the Photon Q doesn't relock BL. If it DOES relock BL on RAZR M, does that mean if I want custom ROMs, I should start the steps directly from ICS? Then how would I be able to get the latest radios, BL and other additions (potentially affects custom ROMs)?
Thank you in advance for any clarification.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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While they could relock it - on the latest they have not. You are safe.

aviwdoowks said:
While they could relock it - on the latest they have not. You are safe.
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Thanks, I'm relieved.
Then what are the complaints about? Is it that someone with bad luck purchased his BL-locked M with 98.30.1 preloaded and found that unlocking is impossible?
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Yea.

aviwdoowks said:
Yea.
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Thanks again, just got my M and flashed latest successfully (that "DROOOOOOOOOOOOID" voice scared me a lot ).
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Can I update to 4.2.2?

Howdy,
So I'm considering updating my trusty XT907 from 4.1.2 up to the new update 4.2.2.
I"m running stock ROM unlocked with Motochopper, using Safestrap 3.12. Removed a mass of stuff, been running it steamlined and smooth. I'd like to update though from what I've read. I've always ran ROMs for years now, but at this point in my busy schedule I can't keep up with the development, and I"m outta the loop. The last ROM I ran on the razr m before stock was the Energy ROM.
My question is, now with bootloader unlocked am I safe to update to 4.2.2 and keep root? Innocent question, hopefully.
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blksheep said:
Howdy,
So I'm considering updating my trusty XT907 from 4.1.2 up to the new update 4.2.2.
I"m running stock ROM unlocked with Motochopper, using Safestrap 3.12. Removed a mass of stuff, been running it steamlined and smooth. I'd like to update though from what I've read. I've always ran ROMs for years now, but at this point in my busy schedule I can't keep up with the development, and I"m outta the loop. The last ROM I ran on the razr m before stock was the Energy ROM.
My question is, now with bootloader unlocked am I safe to update to 4.2.2 and keep root? Innocent question, hopefully.
Thank you -
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With an unlocked bootloader, you can flash TWRP and install CM10.1 from http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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I see. But I"m curious about keeping the stock ROM.
Leraeniesh said:
With an unlocked bootloader, you can flash TWRP and install CM10.1 from http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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blksheep said:
I see. But I"m curious about keeping the stock ROM.
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from my understanding, CM10.1 by dhacker is essentially stock. all others are custom variations.
blksheep said:
I see. But I"m curious about keeping the stock ROM.
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Stock has only gone as far as 4.1.2. If you want 4.2.2, you need to run AOSP.
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RikRong said:
Stock has only gone as far as 4.1.2. If you want 4.2.2, you need to run AOSP.
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Many thanks for the tips! However, this last one made me a little more confused - are you saying to be rooted with 4.2.2 I need to run AOSP roms?
Apologies but I just upgraded to the razr M after running my beloved Droid Incredible with CM10 forever -- absolutely loving it but entirely confused by the rooting options.
My ideal is to have the 4.2.2 update, and to still be unlocked and rooted, with no additional rom's, and with whichever recovery is needed to achieve this. Then I'll start having a look at dhacker's and the Orion looks good too. But I just want the stock 4.2.2 with root access first - if possible.
Many thanks for the clarity --
blksheep said:
Many thanks for the tips! However, this last one made me a little more confused - are you saying to be rooted with 4.2.2 I need to run AOSP roms?
Apologies but I just upgraded to the razr M after running my beloved Droid Incredible with CM10 forever -- absolutely loving it but entirely confused by the rooting options.
My ideal is to have the 4.2.2 update, and to still be unlocked and rooted, with no additional rom's, and with whichever recovery is needed to achieve this. Then I'll start having a look at dhacker's and the Orion looks good too. But I just want the stock 4.2.2 with root access first - if possible.
Many thanks for the clarity --
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if you want to get to 4.2.2, you'll need root access and an unlocked bootloader. stock 4.2.2 is AOSP (it's available in the development section).
the latest update (from what I have read) is NOT 4.2.2 update - I believe is to lock the bootloader. so folks are recommending to NOT accept the update.
I would advise to root, unlock, install TWRP. From there, you can choose your flavor of ROM (keeping in mind that 4.2.2 has not been officially released for the M).
blksheep said:
Many thanks for the tips! However, this last one made me a little more confused - are you saying to be rooted with 4.2.2 I need to run AOSP roms?
Apologies but I just upgraded to the razr M after running my beloved Droid Incredible with CM10 forever -- absolutely loving it but entirely confused by the rooting options.
My ideal is to have the 4.2.2 update, and to still be unlocked and rooted, with no additional rom's, and with whichever recovery is needed to achieve this. Then I'll start having a look at dhacker's and the Orion looks good too. But I just want the stock 4.2.2 with root access first - if possible.
Many thanks for the clarity --
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Sorry, I confused things a little, and JCO's post wasn't very clear either.
If want you to run 4.2.2, you need to run an aftermarket ROM. The M has only been updated to 4.1.2. So, you won't find a stock based ROM that's 4.2.2. JCO refers to CM10.1 as being "stock", but it's not. It's the most basic AOSP ROM. As a comparison, the M's stock ROM is Motoblur based.
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RikRong said:
Sorry, I confused things a little, and JCO's post wasn't very clear either.
If want you to run 4.2.2, you need to run an aftermarket ROM. The M has only been updated to 4.1.2. So, you won't find a stock based ROM that's 4.2.2. JCO refers to CM10.1 as being "stock", but it's not. It's the most basic AOSP ROM. As a comparison, the M's stock ROM is Motoblur based.
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well, CM10.1 is the closest to stock (appearance-wise) of all the after market 4.2.2 ROMs available (to my understanding, there is no themeing on it). but I think there a few tweaks in it (hence AOSP).
jco23 said:
well, CM10.1 is the closest to stock (appearance-wise) of all the after market 4.2.2 ROMs available (to my understanding, there is no themeing on it). but I think there a few tweaks in it (hence AOSP).
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Yeah, CM10.1 is pretty bone stock. I just wanted to make sure there was no confusion with the term "stock." I read our posts, and it would've made a lot of people crawl into the corner, crying.
Excellent, many thanks! That was confusing me also - seeing an update available for my xt097 but reading that 4.2.2 is not available for the razor m - I was wondering what the update was.
I'll be flashing to TWRP tonight - cheers again -hopefully no issues flashing over safestrap. That was neat tho - being able to pick between ROMs to run.
If your already unlocked you never really loose root ever
And the latest verzion update breaks the root method and won't let you unlock if your still locked it doest relock you I think that's impossible
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Safestrap roms

Now that the OTA has locked everyone up or those of us that got a device that didn't have the chance to unlock the bootloader, do most/some/all/etc roms that we have for the Razr M work with Safestrap?
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere but I didn't see it and only saw mention of roms having to be compatible with it
collins521 said:
Now that the OTA has locked everyone up or those of us that got a device that didn't have the chance to unlock the bootloader, do most/some/all/etc roms that we have for the Razr M work with Safestrap?
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere but I didn't see it and only saw mention of roms having to be compatible with it
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I don't know the exact roms, but I know there are a few. Since the bootloader was unlocked though, the development for safestrap roms has slowed or stopped. Check in the Android Development section and scroll through for the safestrap roms. I believe they were 4.1.2 roms only, but don't quote me on that.
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Jersey846 said:
I don't know the exact roms, but I know there are a few. Since the bootloader was unlocked though, the development for safestrap roms has slowed or stopped. Check in the Android Development section and scroll through for the safestrap roms. I believe they were 4.1.2 roms only, but don't quote me on that.
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ROMs developed for SS stopped at 4.1.1, meaning that there not any 4.1.2 custom ROMs available. bootloader was unlocked prior to 4.1.2 rolling out.
there might be a way to convert them to SS though - I know that a dev was able to convert a SS ROM to TWRP flashable recovery, so perhaps he might be able to do the reverse.
jco23 said:
ROMs developed for SS stopped at 4.1.1, meaning that there not any 4.1.2 custom ROMs available. bootloader was unlocked prior to 4.1.2 rolling out.
there might be a way to convert them to SS though - I know that a dev was able to convert a SS ROM to TWRP flashable recovery, so perhaps he might be able to do the reverse.
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I believe DeadCalm was updated to 4.1.2. Also, Eclipse v1.2 is still SS compatible but it leans more heavily on AOSP styling.
SS compatible ROMs:
-Early builds of CM10 (way early, like at the beginning of thread early)
-DeadCalm was SS enabled, not sure if it was modified for an unlocked bootloader only
-Energy is SS enabled and never altered for unlocked bootloader
-Flying Jelly was SS enabled and I don't think it was modified to work only on an unlock bootloader
-Eclipse v1.2 was SS enabled, I don't think it was modified for unlocked bootloader
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I believe DeadCalm was updated to 4.1.2. Also, Eclipse v1.2 is still SS compatible but it leans more heavily on AOSP styling.
SS compatible ROMs:
-Early builds of CM10 (way early, like at the beginning of thread early)
-DeadCalm was SS enabled, not sure if it was modified for an unlocked bootloader only
-Energy is SS enabled and never altered for unlocked bootloader
-Flying Jelly was SS enabled and I don't think it was modified to work only on an unlock bootloader
-Eclipse v1.2 was SS enabled, I don't think it was modified for unlocked bootloader
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yeah, but those are all 4.1.1 ROMs - and I'm fairly certain deadcalm is unlocked bootloader only, as it was created for just 4.1.2.
but I really don't think it matters much anymore - Motorola has been quite diligent on providing updates, so I would not be surprised to see an official 4.2.2 release by the end of this year, with a 4.3 release by next summer.
jco23 said:
yeah, but those are all 4.1.1 ROMs - and I'm fairly certain deadcalm is unlocked bootloader only, as it was created for just 4.1.2.
but I really don't think it matters much anymore - Motorola has been quite diligent on providing updates, so I would not be surprised to see an official 4.2.2 release by the end of this year, with a 4.3 release by next summer.
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Yeah, you're right on all those being 4.1.1, but I was just throwing out some options. Personally, I think very few of the devs, if any, will develop for SS. Sure, the people that are getting new phones or maintenance replacements are hosed. However, people that owned the phone and decided to install the update and not unlock their bootloader? Well, it's their own fault. They've been warned for 4 months that the patch could be locked. Look what happened, it was locked. The one thing the devs could do, that would be fairly easy, is just update the older SS ROMs to the newer OTA. That would help out a lot of people.
RikRong said:
Yeah, you're right on all those being 4.1.1, but I was just throwing out some options. Personally, I think very few of the devs, if any, will develop for SS. Sure, the people that are getting new phones or maintenance replacements are hosed. However, people that owned the phone and decided to install the update and not unlock their bootloader? Well, it's their own fault. They've been warned for 4 months that the patch could be locked. Look what happened, it was locked. The one thing the devs could do, that would be fairly easy, is just update the older SS ROMs to the newer OTA. That would help out a lot of people.
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100% agreed on the warnings - but I also understand why folks may have been skittish beforehand (took me 3 months of reading before I rooted my first device). given that this phone is now offered for free, I can see many new folks to this community, but they'll be SOL unless we are blessed with the help from a dev to unlock their bootloader.
that being said, the devs are not required to create a hack or make their ROMs SS-compatible, but I would not be surprised if locked bootloader phones soon begin to outnumber the locked one. i'm just thankful that they are here.
To be fair, the droid razr m that I'm working on has its bootloader locked because my girlfriend is skittish about me touching her phone. Women
I could barely even get any to work when they were still developing SS Roms, so goodluck... Never accept OTA's...
AK47sForAll said:
I could barely even get any to work when they were still developing SS Roms, so goodluck... Never accept OTA's...
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Unfortunately the one I have had the OTA already downloaded so I didn't even get a chance to unlock the bootloader...been trying to find a white one at a reasonable price and haven't' had much luck
collins521 said:
Unfortunately the one I have had the OTA already downloaded so I didn't even get a chance to unlock the bootloader...been trying to find a white one at a reasonable price and haven't' had much luck
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What do you consider reasonable? And have you tried eBay?
AK47sForAll said:
What do you consider reasonable? And have you tried eBay?
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Ya I've been watching eBay and other sites for a good deal on a white one. Under $200 and in great shape is where I'm looking to get one. I'm in no real rush so I can wait for a deal to pop up
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...calm-v14-7172013-412-base/page-30#entry333531
That being said.
An activated DC is a path to this & you take your data with you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246081
Edit Yet this is a backup made by the full twrp. Yet again they are supposed to be compatible....

Jcase's "SlapMyMoto" "Now what" Q and A thread. By dtrud0h.

This post is to try to sort out the questions, concerns and troubles that users come up against when using.the "SlapMyMoto" rooting method to gain "Root" on the Moto X.
[Question]What happened to my "Recovery"--
[ANSWER]- It's gone. There's no "Recovery". Now you have read/write access to /system instead of a recovery. Your system will boot normally, except /system will be read-write accessible.
[Question ] - Can I flash Xxx-xxx.zip through recovery like it says here - xxxxxx.com/yada/yada/instructions (with link to. Zip file) .com
[Answer] No.
[Question ] Why not?
[Answer] Because you have a "Custom" Recovery that does nothing more than provide read-write access. to the /system partition , ..period.
[Question] -- Can I use some other"Recovery"?
[Answer ] -- ? DUNNO? Maybe jcase will chime in and clarify that. As it stands, maybe the 4.4 recovery, don't know for sure what it will do to your root. Whether it is the 4.4, or 4.2 recovery, without unlocking your Boot loader it will have to be a signed. zip file for system security.
Where else can I turn for answers?
Hopefully, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
As it stands, jcase is attending to family/personal matters. I'm sure he will be back sometime. Until then, just have to wait it out.
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Question- Why with a locked bootloader do I need recovery?
Answer- You don't!
Comment- Good, because you don't have one now that you used SlapMyMoto to root. Your recovery has been replaced by write protection off.
lowvolt1 said:
Question- Why with a locked bootloader do I need recovery?
Answer- You don't!
Comment- Good, because you don't have one now that you used SlapMyMoto to root. Your recovery has been replaced by write protection off.
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Unless you want to clear cache, flash a signed update.zip you really don't need it. Until you do.
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dtrud0h said:
Unless you want to clear cache, flash a signed update.zip you really don't need it. Until you do.
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Or I could just use adb
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Yup, you sure could. What I'm trying to get across to the masses is, its not all about you lowvolt1, there are many new, or people that don't known their way around all this that read the "How-to" from xyz.com and expect it to work.
If you can read, apply your good judgement, and move on then great.
There are other people that can't yet wrap their heads around the bootloader/recovery thing that just got a phone, have no clue, and want help or answers. This is the thread for them.
Maybe you should start a thread for stuff that's all about you if that's what you want.
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dtrud0h said:
Yup, you sure could. What I'm trying to get across to the masses is, its not all about you lowvolt1, there are many new, or people that don't known their way around all this that read the "How-to" from xyz.com and expect it to work.
If you can read, apply your good judgement, and move on then great.
There are other people that can't yet wrap their heads around the bootloader/recovery thing that just got a phone, have no clue, and want help or answers. This is the thread for them.
Maybe you should start a thread for stuff that's all about you if that's what you want.
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My narcissistic nature is not in question here. What is in question is why you are trying to help new people or people with questions, yet you continue to blurt out false truths.
Maybe you should listen to the people that have alot more knowledge than you and I put together and do a little more research before you continue to confuse people.
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lowvolt1 said:
My narcissistic nature is not in question here. What is in question is why you are trying to help new people or people with questions, yet you continue to blurt out false truths.
Maybe you should listen to the people that have alot more knowledge than you and I put together and do a little more research before you continue to confuse people.
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OK I for one found your (original) explanation quite helpful as I didn't pick up on the recovery/bootloader thing. I'm still not rooted...
The recovery I can live without - I think you've explained it well.
What happens to the bootloader? it looks like (in step "5") it is downgraded to the 4.2.2 bootloader? So we're running 4.4 with a 4.2.2. bootloader when all said and done?
tdiman said:
OK I for one found your (original) explanation quite helpful as I didn't pick up on the recovery/bootloader thing. I'm still not rooted...
The recovery I can live without - I think you've explained it well.
What happens to the bootloader? it looks like (in step "5") it is downgraded to the 4.2.2 bootloader? So we're running 4.4 with a 4.2.2. bootloader when all said and done?
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Yes. As I understand it your statement is correct.
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Guys-
I don't feel like going through all 80+ pages on the slapmymoto thread, so I will ask it here.
I have the at&t version with 4.4 on it. Can I root at the moment with the 0.5 slapmymoto, if not, is 1.0 going to be solving this issue?
Thanks in advance-
Dodolom said:
Guys-
I don't feel like going through all 80+ pages on the slapmymoto thread, so I will ask it here.
I have the at&t version with 4.4 on it. Can I root at the moment with the 0.5 slapmymoto, if not, is 1.0 going to be solving this issue?
Thanks in advance-
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I am assuming your on the non Dev edition. I am not familiar with at&t, so I will ask this. Can you unlock the boot loader on that version? If not then yes I believe you can root using slap. But you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 first.
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lowvolt1 said:
I am assuming your on the non Dev edition. I am not familiar with at&t, so I will ask this. Can you unlock the boot loader on that version? If not then yes I believe you can root using slap. But you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 first.
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Yeah, this is jus the retail at&t version on the Cyber Monday sale. I had the GSM DE from day 1 but sent it to a friend in england to play with and then Cyber Monday deal popped up, so I ordered one but this time I went with the custom design which only comes with the carriers.
Anyways, how can I know if I can unlock the bootloader or not?
Dodolom said:
Yeah, this is jus the retail at&t version on the Cyber Monday sale. I had the GSM DE from day 1 but sent it to a friend in england to play with and then Cyber Monday deal popped up, so I ordered one but this time I went with the custom design which only comes with the carriers.
Anyways, how can I know if I can unlock the bootloader or not?
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Try Google searching it. I don't think you can. Verizon can't and since you made mention of a Dev edition I am guessing you can't unlock.
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lowvolt1 said:
Try Google searching it. I don't think you can. Verizon can't and since you made mention of a Dev edition I am guessing you can't unlock.
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I think I will wait for the 1.0 and see what happens or if I get some time this week, I will give it a shot with the downgrading and all that.
Thanks
Dodolom said:
I think I will wait for the 1.0 and see what happens or if I get some time this week, I will give it a shot with the downgrading and all that.
Thanks
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You may be waiting awhile for 1.0. If it comes at all.
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I just recieved a Moto X on Verizon in the mail and I really would like to root it to debloat and run a custom rom but I have always had Samsung and worked with odin. How do we go about rooting this? What do you think is the easiest way? For some reason ADB isnt working on my computer. Thanks in advance! I REALLY NEED SOME HELP!!
ehusidic said:
I just recieved a Moto X on Verizon in the mail and I really would like to root it to debloat and run a custom rom but I have always had Samsung and worked with odin. How do we go about rooting this? What do you think is the easiest way? For some reason ADB isnt working on my computer. Thanks in advance! I REALLY NEED SOME HELP!!
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1. There are no custom roms at the moment. Unless you have the Verizon Dev edition.
2. You will only gain root access and RW permissions
3. The easiest way is slap my motto is the only way if you want to be rooted on kit Kat 4.4
4. You will definitely need adb
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[Q] Say if you boot into "recovery," otherwise write protection-off mode, then you reboot. Do you boot back into normal mode? Or does it default into write protection-off mode until you explicitly tell it to boot normally?
erikikaz said:
[Q] Say if you boot into "recovery," otherwise write protection-off mode, then you reboot. Do you boot back into normal mode? Or does it default into write protection-off mode until you explicitly tell it to boot normally?
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That depends, are you rebooting in to recovery again, or rebooting in to Android? Android = WP on. Recovery = WP off.
A couple of non-SlapMyMoto questions have been asked here so... (dtrud0h, feel free to add these to your OP)
[Q] What is the best way to root my Moto X?
[A] Depends what Rom is on your X. Generally there are 3 "stock" motorola rom versions for the X. The ROM it shipped with (android 4.2.2), the "camera fix" update (4.2.2), and Kit Kit (4.4). And it depends on if you have a locked bootloader or not.
Locked Bootloader with KitKat (4.4) see SlapMyMoto -> SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
Locked Bootloader with "Camera Update" see -> [Root] RockMyMoto (Yes, even the first OTA)
Locked Bootloader with initial shipping rom see -> [Root/Write Protection Bypass] MotoX (no unlock needed)
UNLOCKED bootloader see -> https://plus.google.com/110773150384694258853/posts/VhtJtg92sTP
NOTE: these should work across all carrier variants of the Moto X. that means ATT, VZW, TMO, TIM, Rogers, etc.. should be able to use these. You just need to pick the right process based on your ROM or locked vs unlocked bootloader.
[Q] Once I root, can I accept an OTA update on my phone?
[A] If you have rooted with SlapMyMoto, RockMyMoto, PwnMyMoto, or have otherwise replaced stock recovery, then please do not let your phone try to install any OTA updates!!!
As stated in another Question/Answer, using JCASE's SlapMyMoto, RockMyMoto and PwnMyMoto to root will replace your recovery to allow for the ability to boot with R/W permitted. When the OTA update downloads to your phone, and it tries to reboot to install it, the phone/update is trying to use the stock recovery to install the update. Since it is not there, the update will fail and the phone will reboot and it will likely try to reboot and try to install again. This can often result in the phone being stuck in a boot loop of continually retrying to reboot and install the update. There are ways to fix this posted in other threads. NOTE: there may be ways to get around this and install the OTA zip but that is a topic for another thread.
If you have an unlocked bootloader and have installed a custom recovery, it might be possible to install the OTA ZIP manually, but again that is a topic for another thread.
[Q] Can I unlock the Bootloader on my Moto X? or How do I know if I can unlock my bootloader or not?
[A] If you have a Developer Edition Moto X, yes you can unlock the bootloader and it doesn't void your device warranty. If you have a MotoMaker or Carrier Branded model, it depends on IF your carrier allows Motorola to do it, and it will void your warranty. For example, Verizon and ATT does now allow Motorola to unlock your boot loader. T-Mobile users can unlock their bootloader but it will void their warranty.
To see if your Moto X bootloader can be unlocked visit -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth You can step through the process until you get to the final submit WITHOUT voiding your warranty. Based on the site's wording, once you hit the final submit to request the code, your warranty is voided (unless your phone is a developer edition)
[Q] How do I run a custom rom on my X?
[A] SlapMyMoto and the like is/are not a process to allow you to run custom roms.
Unless you have an unlocked bootloader, you can't remove the Stock Motorola ROM and run a completely custom rom. And because most X owners generally agree the stock X ROM is very good, there are not many custom roms available for the X, even for those with unlocked bootloaders. Any available custom roms are posted in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development so please use those threads for info/discussions.
If you have locked bootloader, there are a few options for using Safestrap to allow for some customization or "alternate roms", but that is a topic which doesn't apply to this thread.
So what can we really do after we gain root. The obvious is run apps that require root but what else? I am a user and follow directions from devs on how to do things. So without the knowledge or experience of the deep pits of android what can I do with root? This root process looks a little tough but I could figure it out once I piece all the threads together to understand it better.
Sent from my vzw moto X
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Will this work on a non developer vzw phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
Sent from my vzw moto X

[Q] Root and unlocked BL! Now what ROM?

First need to shout out the towelroot method for root and BL unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
SO easy and worked. Love it
Now that I have root AND unlocked BL, will be grabbing me some TWRP, backing up stock and trying some ROMs.
Question is: which one? I've read on some posts that only 1 or 2 ROMs work with KK-based phones. Is this accurate? I believe one post I read said only CM11 works, and its very laggy.
So which to grab? Do all KK ROMs under the development page work after the towelroot exploit? CM11, CarbonRom, Google Play Edition etc? Also, which has best,most reliable native wifi tether working? Any other big bugs among the ROMs that actually work?
You can still use the ones that don't support the new bootloader and kernel by downgrading to jb 4.1.2 since your now bootloader unlocked
ckfalls said:
First need to shout out the towelroot method for root and BL unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
SO easy and worked. Love it
Now that I have root AND unlocked BL, will be grabbing me some TWRP, backing up stock and trying some ROMs.
Question is: which one? I've read on some posts that only 1 or 2 ROMs work with KK-based phones. Is this accurate? I believe one post I read said only CM11 works, and its very laggy.
So which to grab? Do all KK ROMs under the development page work after the towelroot exploit? CM11, CarbonRom, Google Play Edition etc? Also, which has best,most reliable native wifi tether working? Any other big bugs among the ROMs that actually work?
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I'm running cm11 and I've had little to no lag issues
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Kitstalk at droidrzr.com i don't know if I'm allowed to post the link as it requires a registration to download... Always been my favorite...
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Thanks guys. Yeah I know I can downgrade but happy with KK changes, esp full screen over soft keys.
Will look into kitstalk thx. Yeah seems CM11 has good results. Either of these have native WiFi tether working?
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ckfalls said:
Thanks guys. Yeah I know I can downgrade but happy with KK changes, esp full screen over soft keys.
Will look into kitstalk thx. Yeah seems CM11 has good results. Either of these have native WiFi tether working?
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Cm11 has a working tether setting. I haven't connected anything to the Hotspot but it turns on.
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thewraith420 said:
You can still use the ones that don't support the new bootloader and kernel by downgrading to jb 4.1.2 since your now bootloader unlocked
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So the RazrM still can't use current roms even with the bootloader unlocked ??
aaronpw0621 said:
So the RazrM still can't use current roms even with the bootloader unlocked ??
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You can use the new or older roms with unlocked bootloader just now you need to pay attention to what bootloader + kernel your on. The test builds of cm11 coming out won't work on the old bootloader + Kernel and the older ones won't work with the new kk bootloader + kernel
thewraith420 said:
You can use the new or older roms with unlocked bootloader just now you need to pay attention to what bootloader + kernel your on. The test builds of cm11 coming out won't work on the old bootloader + Kernel and the older ones won't work with the new kk bootloader + kernel
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Just to clarify I am using the Droid Razr M (xt907). I had already taken the ota for 4.4.2 before i used towelroot. I have so far only got one ROM from @dhacker29 to boot. Its a cm11 from him. I can't figure out exactly which ROMs to flash. Is it the ones listed for the moto_msm 8960 or the ones listed for KK???
thewraith420 said:
You can use the new or older roms with unlocked bootloader just now you need to pay attention to what bootloader + kernel your on. The test builds of cm11 coming out won't work on the old bootloader + Kernel and the older ones won't work with the new kk bootloader + kernel
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So I'm not used to looking for BL/kernel compatability usually I don't see this in the OP for a ROM, typically only see android flavor it based on, "JB" or "kk", which I thought would dictate whether a ROM would work on a device. Guess we need to look in the post for BL/kernel version (both which get updated during an OTA update?)
Like I said CM11 was the only one I knew of that for sure worked post-towelroot, that's why I was looking to see if others knew which other ROMs worked as well.
I know we can check kernel version in setting, if kernel matches a ROM then were bound to have the BL that matches as well, correct?
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Only ones listed for KK will work for you now since your on the 4.4.2 ota however if you downgrade via fxz to 4.1.2 then you'll able to run the msm 8960 builds currently there are more choices once downgraded.
Downgrade tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53474077

[Q] Best ROM upgrade for 98.15.66

Hello,
My wife has RAZR M running stock and rooted 98.15.66 rom. Bootloader was never unlocked but I think it's still possible with this version of rom. am I right? Last time I was doing something with her phone was almost 2 years ago and I'm more samsung guy so need some directions here She loves this phone and doesn't want to get anything new. Phone is getting to run slower so it needs cleanup. Is it worth to upgrade it to KK rom or just do factory restore and set it up from scratch on this 4.1.2 rom? Any major bugs on stock KK rom? CM12 has too much bugs as of now for her. What about CM11, is there fully functional and bugs free version for RAZR M available?
.66 is indeed unlockable right away, but just so you could experience stock KitKat and see if it's more fitting, simply upgrade to 183.46.10 (ATTENTION: not .15!!!) and unlock the bootloader there. Guides are there in the General section. Note that you will lose data and internal storage contents, so back up properly.
After that if you feel uncomfortable with KitKat, you can freely downgrade to Jelly Bean whenever you prefer.
Haven't met any serious bugs even in CM12, let alone CM11. Don't know what kind of deal-breaking bug you're talking about.
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AndyYan said:
.66 is indeed unlockable right away, but just so you could experience stock KitKat and see if it's more fitting, simply upgrade to 183.46.10 (ATTENTION: not .15!!!) and unlock the bootloader there. Guides are there in the General section. Note that you will lose data and internal storage contents, so back up properly.
After that if you feel uncomfortable with KitKat, you can freely downgrade to Jelly Bean whenever you prefer.
Haven't met any serious bugs even in CM12, let alone CM11. Don't know what kind of deal-breaking bug you're talking about.
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According to Strife89 post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58531079&postcount=80 there are couple of bugs that I know my wife is not gonna like for example microphone level and able hear own voice when using headphones.
Do you think it's better to unlock bootloader before upgrading to KK or it's doesn't matter? Thanks.
SotYPL said:
According to Strife89 post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58531079&postcount=80 there are couple of bugs that I know my wife is not gonna like for example microphone level and able hear own voice when using headphones.
Do you think it's better to unlock bootloader before upgrading to KK or it's doesn't matter? Thanks.
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I would suggest that you unlock the bootloader now before you upgrade.
Sent from my Moto G™
Unlock unlock unlock. It worth the candle. I think your wife will be happy with cleaned up 4.1.2 or 4.4.2. Last one is more stylish, and comfortable in use, as for me.
OK is that correct order to get it upgraded?
1. Unlock boot loader using apk or Motopocalypse from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-m/general/guide-faq-how-to-root-boot-unlock-t2869432
2. Flash KK firmware using RSD Lite but I'm not sure which image from this: http://www.drdevs.com/devs/FXZ-files/XT907 (Droid RAZR M)/ website is safe to use. Can I use latest one 20.62-15.1 after unlocking boot loader or do I have to stay stay with 20.62-10?
3. Flash TWRP from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
4. FLash SuperSU from recovery
Is that correct way to handle it?

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