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A thought just ran through my head in regards to build quality. In short drop a feather & a brick from about chest high & see what happens.
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Wildheathen0341 said:
A thought just ran through my head in regards to build quality. In short drop a feather & a brick from about chest high & see what happens.
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Well, you'll have to understand that build quality can vary greatly when comparing feathers to bricks. Although it would seem that the feather escapes the drop test completely unharmed, you'll notice that there are thousands of micro-fractures from the force of the trauma. The brick, too, will suffer severe cracks and possible breaks, but you'll notice that once you put both subjects under an electon microscope, you'll see that the brick has fewer micro-fractures for a sum of less damage (even though fractured).
That is assuming, of course, a solid surface such as concrete or asphalt.
/Plus, what the heck are you talking about? lol. I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
So our epic's build quality is strong, however its weight doesn't compensate its strength?
othan1 said:
I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
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This.
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This is not the Mechanical Engineering thread is it? I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
wait, what???
i hope you don't think you were being deep
My epic dropped dozens of times
All i got is a scuff mark from when it landed on a corner
The epic may be plastic, but its some nice engineering
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A_Flying_Fox said:
My epic dropped dozens of times
All i got is a scuff mark from when it landed on a corner
The epic may be plastic, but its some nice engineering
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+1 to that. I dropped it on tile 2weeks ago, about 3feet, sounded soo harsh. I thought it would shutoff or something. was perfect, no scuffs or anything =)
othan1 said:
what the heck are you talking about? lol. I want what you're smoking; my stuff doesn't seem that strong.
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He's probably on this new drug called Sheen. I hear it gives you tiger blood.
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Its like comparing titanium and steel,titanium is lighter,yet stronger given you use the same weight not thickness; Say if you had a 1" thick steel wall and a 1" thick titanium wall,the steel wall would be stronger in say a penetration test; But use the same material in weight and that 1" wall of titanium becomes a 3" thick wall,which would easily be stronger then a 1" thick steel wall. But seriously anything lighter will have less impact on case and components on the inside,physics 101,and a feather wouldnt get damaged from a drop on the ground.
Ok Im done thinking...
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Shoulon said:
+1 to that. I dropped it on tile 2weeks ago, about 3feet, sounded soo harsh. I thought it would shutoff or something. was perfect, no scuffs or anything =)
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Dropped mine onto a hard concrete floor about 4 feet. Back popped off, battery popped out, my dad gasped as I said "don't worry, I'm insured" and noticed some minor scuffs/pitting in one corner. I put the phone back together and it's like nothing ever happened.
Samsung physically builds their phones great. I've had 3 of them including my Epic.
If you don't know what I'm talking about then how could you possibly have an answer yet you've offered up one still. Smoking huh? ;-)
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Simple, drop a galaxy S device from about chest high Vs. an iPhone from the same height & what do you think the result would be? Now of course I don't mean on a mattress or any thing like that I mean a surface with very little give, what do you think the outcome would be?
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One weekend a few months ago I had my phone sitting on my desk charging, and it rang right as I was walking by. I grabbed the phone as I walked by so that I could answer it, but hadn't noticed it was plugged in to the wall two feet down.
As I grabbed the phone and turned to walk away, the cord caught, actually bending around a knob on my desk making a tight point and slipping the phone right out of my hands.
'Oh crap' I thought, and I quickly reached back to snatch it, but my lightning reflexes were not expecting the spring-loaded return the charge cable had initiated, and only the tips of my fingers hit the phone... hard... in an upward motion away from me.
In that moment my phone went from a 3 foot free fall to a high speed projection 7 feet above floor level and landing, cable now detached by force, about 15 feet away. On the floor. Which is tile.
As if that wasn't enough to make a bad situation worse, about 2 hours before I had taken my hard case off as well to swap memory cards and had not put the case back on.
In those 5 seconds from fingertips to floor I had already started wondering how good the insurance policy I had paid in advance for was going to be, but when I picked the phone up off the ground it was 100% intact, not even a scratch on it.
A far cry from any previous phones I have dropped, where a drop from 24" (falling off my lap getting out of a car, etc) would result in the phones exploding every loose panel, battery, etc, scuffing the crap out of the plastics. With the size of the screen on this phone I thought for sure if nothing else the screen would blow up, but not even that.
I was close then =P well my Dad own's a 3GS and dropped it off a Scaffold at 25ft. It worked fine, no scratch since it had invisiShield. Also on a lift at about 45ft. the outer rim bended abit though.
i think the epic's pretty well built
I accidentally launched mine from my pocket to about 10 feet away across the bar on my birthday. Fell screen down on a sandy floor. Digitizer shattered, but worked fine. Best Buy replaced the deigitizer. Fine now.
+1 to bestbuys awesome warranty's.
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So I took my ambian like I always do and decided I was going to take a bath cause of a lower back ache. I was surfing the web and I guess the ambian kicked in and knocked my ass out! Well got out of the tub cause the water was getting cold, got out and turned on the light. I was looking all over the place for my phone and panicked when I saw it under water in the TUB!!! I picked it up and it came on, shook it off and have had zero problems out of it, charge port was open and I have no idea how it still works, it was under water for a lonnnnnnng time!
hmmmmm tell us how well it works tommorrow
Been three days now so Im calling it good!
i find this very hard to believe haha miracles do happen sir
can you try it again?
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Lol! My wife takes 20-40 mg of Ambien every night (as prescribed), in addition to other stuff for insomnia (and even all THAT doesn't always knock her out) so I know what you mean with that.
Waterproof, though, is lucky. Be very happy you lucked out.
You should have probably immediately taken the battery out and rinsed it with distilled water.
It will probably start corroding inside soon and die on you.
Also when you take Ambien you should be ALREADY in bed, not walking around or taking baths.
Interesting story though.
I have seen it before. It will corrode over time. Then it will drain battery really fast. But everything will work.
I have been worried about corrosion too but i did pull the battery out and clean everything really well. The thing that turn pink when wet is still white so somehow the water didn't get in there. Not going to try it again.
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SamsungVibrant said:
Also when you take Ambien you should be ALREADY in bed, not walking around or taking baths.
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Really i had no idea, thanks for the heads up
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So I just dropped my beloved vibrant ok the toilet and need reassurance, anyone whos done it before, will it live? So far its working ok, random color spasms and headphone port sounded distorted for a second but stopped when I paused music. It hasnt happened in about 15 minutes and the phone fell about an hour ago and dryed for about 30 minutes. I ran it over with a bike before on accident and it still worked and I love this phone so hopefully it will survive. Anyway worst damage to happen to your phone and it still worked?
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Turn off your phone, take out the battery and put it in a bag of rice. Good as new in about 2 hours.
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Before you put it in rice, might want to clean the ports and anything that you can access with distilled water. This will hopefully prevent corrosion from rusty, particle ridden toilet water.
I was at an Ace Hardware where they were selling, for five or ten bucks, a plastic bag with some dessicant for wet-phone rescue. Rice or any dessicant should work fine. I would make sure no rice dust gets into phone.
If you have any kind of blower or compressed air, blowing it out gently on no heat first might be a good idea. Also, I would first take phone somewhat apart, remove battery, sim, sdcard. Dry loose parts by hand, then blow out phone, especially all ports and contacts.
Some kind of tuner-cleaner might be an option if needed.
Thanks guys I took the whole phone apart yesterday and air dryed/ blew air in to dry it out and its working great. Only issue is the volume down rocker doesnt work 100% I have to press it a couple times to make it work. Any way to fix that?
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your phone has been through hell haha!
unfortunately there isnt much anyone here can tell you. there are certain things you can do to get as much water out as possible like the rice trick, swabbing all ports, etc. but in the long run, theres really no way of telling if any water got in deep enough to go unnoticed/uncleanable, and actually reached a point where it could cause damage <--- and if thats the case, like Woodrube said, you may experience issues somewhere down the road, even long enough to the point when youve totally forgotten about dropping it in the toilet, and youll say "how come this started happening all of a sudden?"
sucks man, gotta be careful...i went to the bathroom one night to relieve myself, after 1 or 2 drinks , and for some reason i thought that holding my phone in the same hand that was aiming wasnt the worst idea ever......yup, i ended up pissing on my blackberry
sneakysnake16 said:
Thanks guys I took the whole phone apart yesterday and air dryed/ blew air in to dry it out and its working great. Only issue is the volume down rocker doesnt work 100% I have to press it a couple times to make it work. Any way to fix that?
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If it was my phone, I'd get some tuner-cleaner and shoot it into the switch and hope.
TopShelf10 said:
i went to the bathroom one night to relieve myself, after 1 or 2 drinks , and for some reason i thought that holding my phone in the same hand that was aiming wasnt the worst idea ever......yup, i ended up pissing on my blackberry
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Lol. No really I laughed out loud and these ladies sitting next to me turned and looked. Brings new life to the phrase "piss on blackberry".
Woodrube said:
Lol. No really I laughed out loud and these ladies sitting next to me turned and looked. Brings new life to the phrase "piss on blackberry".
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100% true story...not my highest point haha, although it did ultimately lead to me getting my vibrant, so i guess it can be considered a win of sorts
We all know its waterproof be will u actually dunk your new £400 tablet in the bath...
I just carnt do it
Ran mine under the tap, was a tense moment.
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Ran mine under the tap twice already to clean. Still works fine. Dunking mine next week I think. If not its covered under warranty right?
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TeH-BagS said:
Ran mine under the tap twice already to clean. Still works fine. Dunking mine next week I think. If not its covered under warranty right?
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The Non-tablet Z has a moisture indicator at the headphone jacket which turns red if it gets wet and probably at the other flaps too. I'd imagine the Tablet Z has these too. If those are still okay water damage is probably covered. But that is just speculation.
Mine went under the tab yesterday, today I plan to have a nice long bath with it.
Edit: still alive. Partially submerged use is not practical though because waves trigger the touchscreen. So you have to hold it fully out of the water to use it, even if you do not do anything active, like watching a movie. Not unexpected, but still..
ash6783 said:
We all know its waterproof be will u actually dunk your new £400 tablet in the bath...
I just carnt do it
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I don't plan to, but one never knows...:fingers-crossed:
Hi there guys i say dunk it i did a lot of times and works fine. My youtube channel is xperiatabletztests and i have alot of videos where i dunk it or pour stuff on it if you have time check it out
Today I just went for it ,filled my sink up and put it under for a while it was great
why not?
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why not?
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Kool pic _
As per my other thread - mine went straight into the sea!
http://youtu.be/bJkUST6NO5U
You need kids. Sticky chocolate fingers? Just washing it off is heaven compared to other tablets.
Finally dunk my tablet. Did once over the weekend. Then was confident enough took it to work and dunk it in the office kitchen sink to proof to some of my colleagues who were skeptical about it being waterproof. Sure prooved them wrong hehehe.
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Mine has gone into a pool already for confidence building. Apart from the speakers being clogged for like half an hour, it appears to have lived up to its promise, but it wasn't fully submerged (almost was). Given I don't have a warranty coverage at all, it was pretty risky.
I did take a picture though, and it's definitely a conversation point.
I had my 64gig note5 for 3 weeks. I treated it like every other phone i have ever had, including pulled it out in a light drizzle for 2 seconds to check a text.
Apparently this phone is not water safe at all.
My screen started acting up and i sent it in, and they say it has water damage, from just having a few dots of rain in it, IN A CASE.
Last Samsung product I ever buy. And I have bought a lot from them.
Be careful. Buy insurance. Or don't buy this phone.
When i get it back i will do a tear down and show you were it is vulnerable.
This says otherwise... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOSS_YeeKRs
2 seconds of light drizzle will not damage this phone in that manor. Maybe we need to define what "light drizzle" is. our definitions may be different!
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Light drizzle as in when I wiped it off and put it back in my pocket the screen had maybe 8 raindrops on it.
As far as how other phones do in videos, IDK, all I know is my phone and how I treated it and how Samsung denied my repair.
I asked the guy when I called them how he knows there wasn't a failure in manufacture of the glue or whatever and they refused to even talk about that, "It shows water damage inside", that was all the proof he needed that it was not the phone's fault.
I actually added up all the TVs and such I have bought from Samsung, it's over $10k, and I could probably buy that again in future stuff easily. It's too bad they have terrible service, they have lost a lot of future income.
It's not surprising Apple is beating them up again.
If I did something like dropped this phone in water or spilled a big gulp on it, I wouldn't be complaining, that's my fault. But NO $900 phone should be toast from a few rain drops. It's pathetic.
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2 seconds of light drizzle will not damage this phone in that manor. Maybe we need to define what "light drizzle" is. our definitions may be different!
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Sorry I just can't imagine 8 raindrops damaging a phone like that........$900 for a Note 5? That's crazy. Where'd you buy it for that price?
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It's from Sprint direct.
Is it even water damage? Or is it just Samsung's poor service? IDK.
Yes, it's crazy. Yes, I can't imagine a few drops of rain can destroy a 3 week phone, and that they see "corrosion" inside when it was only a 2 weeks old when I pulled it out in the drizzle.
Yes, I can't imagine it either, but it happened.
What's even worse though, is Samsung didn't even offer to fix it for cost. They say it costs MORE to fix than buy a new one. Which is completely a joke. They can't put a new motherboard in it for less than $900? That's just insane.
Imagine if you bought a new car and blew up the engine and it cost more to put in a new engine than to buy a new one?
princeasi said:
Sorry I just can't imagine 8 raindrops damaging a phone like that........$900 for a Note 5? That's crazy. Where'd you buy it for that price?
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Or is it just Samsung's poor service? IDK.
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Less than 24 hours after I got it I dropped mine from about two feet. It landed half on the grass half on the concrete patio. The back glass cracked. Rather than rant that the back shouldn't have cracked from that particular drop I owned it and called Samsung to get it repaired. It's $76 including them paying roundtrip 2 day shipping. I'd say that's pretty good service. The progress of the repair was available to me step-by-step onine and it was quite detailed. Do you mind posting yours? I'd be curious to see what led to it being beyond economical repair.
Imagine if you bought a new car and blew up the engine and it cost more to put in a new engine than to buy a news one?
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If I put diesel in a two week old gas-powered car not too hard to imagine at all. You admit you got the phone wet so the part that's gray is how wet you got it. I left mine outside face up on the patio table and it got caught in a sudden rain shower. It was fine in every respect afterward. So at least based on my experience it's not that water sensitive. But each drop and water encounter is different so everyone's experience is YMMV.
Yeah samsung will not fix anything at their cost once water damage is confirmed from that little sticker.
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Sounds like your seals are faulty or the drain lane was clogged with dirt.
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Anecdotes do not equal facts...
Title of this thread is misleading.
First, Samsung never claim this phone is water resistance or Water proof. Second, You just have the ****tiest luck, Mine was in my jeans the other day, soaking wet from heavy rain and it still working.
What you should have try is turning it off and sat it in front of a fan for a couple hours to see if that fix it.
P.s it not physically possible that a light drizzle can messed up the screen...unless rain got through the ear piece. or you just trolling around.
One drop just got in the wrong place, like through the connector in the bottom or something
a 2 sec rain "drizzle" dropping into the bottom connector, frying the motherboard is an unlikely event lol.
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All I can say is "Murphy's law".
Just bad luck, I had self broken back glass on Z3 and stuck autofocus (constant macro shots lol) which I fixed by shaking the phone, looked like lense was stuck.
And yeah I'm even more impressed by your accident considering all the waterproof tests which S6 passed or lasted for very long till fully dead.
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Water dots can be activated if you have it in the bathroom while taking a hot shower...
Anyone who damages their note 5 due to him/her taking it into an environment extreme enough to cause water dots is user error. Not the fault of the manufacturer!
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Water dots can be activated if you have it in the bathroom while taking a hot shower...
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I know this is anecdotal but I've been doing this (playing music while taking a shower, shaving etc...) for years with all my phones. I have never had a problem, ever, not even once.
HNIC215 said:
I know this is anecdotal but I've been doing this (playing music while taking a shower, shaving etc...) for years with all my phones. I have never had a problem, ever, not even once.
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he didn't say you would have problems. However, bringing this, or most other devices into a steamy room can trigger the water damage indicators.
bfilipowski said:
he didn't say you would have problems. However, bringing this, or most other devices into a steamy room can trigger the water damage indicators.
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I never suggested he said anything...
I said "I know this is anecdotal but..."
Basically giving my own opinion based on my own experiences with smartphones.
HNIC215 said:
I never suggested he said anything...
I said "I know this is anecdotal but..."
Basically giving my own opinion based on my own experiences with smartphones.
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Understood. I was just stating an all to common issue based on my experience as a service and repair technician for Samsung devices. There is no wiggle room when the water indicator is tripped. Only option is insurance replacement.
Do whatever you want with your phone. I'll continue to use my waterproof Bluetooth speaker in damp areas.