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[Q] MH8 with official/no void (0x0) warranty - how to root safely?

Hey,
I wanted to de-brand my phone from carrier's rom, and i put MGA from this forum (pre-rooted version). I didn't know that in two very small OTA's i would update to MH8 since there were no description to any of them, so i'm now on MH8 unfortunatly.
In Download Mode i have official mode, KNOX Warranty Void 0x0 (so i have my warranty still, right?) and now i want to know two things:
1. How can i root it withouth having 0x1 flag or any other problem? Is it even possible?
2. What triggers that KNOX flag? What to avoid etc.? I want to be as cautious as i can so i wont lose my warranty. (at least till somebody figures how to disable/downgrade knox/bootloader).

If you try to root your phone then the knox flag will turn to 0x1. I do not know what triggers this flag. But I saw a post in google+ fron chainfire there is nothing you can do if you want to return your phone in full stock with warranty because of knox flag. I rooted my sgs4 and I flashed an aosp custom rom and recovery but now I am in full stock and the knox flag remains 0x1. Triangle away is not a solution for that. Just give developers some time to figure this out.
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Yea, i saw same post on his account, just couldn't find any list of things that sets that flag to 0x1. And i do value my warranty more then root a little bit. Good thing is that KNOX is being deployed to more and more roms and phones (not that great for them actually) but this should mean that there will be more devs to look at this problem and there should be fix sooner. Hope some1 will do his magic and be able to reset this, as its just software, i don't belive it can't be cracked.
Thanks for answer!

tripped knox flag to 0x1 what now?

Guys, I'm on stock 4.2.2 MGG firmware. That's how my devices came out of the box.
I rooted it just out of the box even before I put the screen protector, so now the knox flag is 0x1.
What will happen now? Will I be ever able to update to 4.3? or install ANY custom roms from the devs?
I rad the QA thread about knox, but its really unclear and there's some cross information.
The device is I9505
Thanks in advance.

bidav1 said:
Guys, I'm on stock 4.2.2 MGG firmware. That's how my devices came out of the box.
I rooted it just out of the box even before I put the screen protector, so now the knox flag is 0x1.
What will happen now? Will I be ever able to update to 4.3? or install ANY custom roms from the devs?
I rad the QA thread about knox, but its really unclear and there's some cross information.
The device is I9505
Thanks in advance.
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The flag won't stop you doing anything with your phone at all, the only difference is that Samsung may now not honour any warranty claims for your handset.
There's also the few issues with root access not working properly with KNOX installed, but that happens with or without the flag being tripped, it's just a feature of KNOW.

Dan1909 said:
The flag won't stop you doing anything with your phone at all, the only difference is that Samsung may now not honour any warranty claims for your handset.
There's also the few issues with root access not working properly with KNOX installed, but that happens with or without the flag being tripped, it's just a feature of KNOW.
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Dan,
From what I understand I won't be able to downgrade or upgrade to knox enabled firmwares at all since my device is now compromised.. 4.3 HAS knox in it. Am I wrong?

bidav1 said:
Dan,
From what I understand I won't be able to downgrade or upgrade to knox enabled firmwares at all since my device is now compromised.. 4.3 HAS knox in it. Am I wrong?
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Ah, yes I forgot about that. You won't be able to downgrade (at least not easily) to non-KNOW firmwares. However there's not really any reason to now that you've already tripped the flag, so you're not missing out on anything there.
I think that's all there is, although I could be wrong.

Dan1909 said:
Ah, yes I forgot about that. You won't be able to downgrade (at least not easily) to non-KNOW firmwares. However there's not really any reason to now that you've already tripped the flag, so you're not missing out on anything there.
I think that's all there is, although I could be wrong.
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Thing is that I'm on 4.2.2 now, and want to UPGRADE to 4.3. but 4.3 is a knox enabled firmware so it seems from what I understand is impossible?

I was also on 4.2.2 with knox status 0x1. I have flashed the leaked 4.3 firmware with knox without any problems so dont worry
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

Upgrading to a higher fw will always work, even if knox is triggered. Only downgrade won't work or maybe will hardbrick your device.
Sent from my flying Galaxy S4 GT-I9505

[Q] CWM recovery removal with out tripping Knox Counter??

I recently purchased a SM-N900W8. Love this device, just retired my S2 which i messed around with for a few years and never had issues...
I neglected to do research on XDA (Big mistake) before rooting it and had no idea about the repercussions of this KNOX issue.
I used this method to root it (http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/)
I successfully installed CWM recovery and SuperSu and the phone is rooted. I had no intentions of installing Custom Roms just yet just wanted to be able to use some of my favorite apps that require rooting. The phones Current Binary and Phone status have both been tagged custom but my KNOX Warranty Void is still tagged at 0X0. Needless to say maybe I got lucky?
I was hoping to Revert to Stock and Unroot so I could follow this method instead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850)
Is there anyways to Accomplish this without tripping the KNOX counter? I've been scouring the forums for several hours trying to find a concrete answer but cannot.
I have downloaded my stock firmware (http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26653)
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have included a screenshot of my device info. I apologize in advance if this issue has already been addressed.
Thanks,
-Rob

For device info and Knox warranty status, you can use my app Phone INFO ★Samsung★ to get more detailed info.
Download link in my signature.

Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005

Dejan Sathanas said:
Why did you even install CWM if you didn't need it ?
Why do you want to remove it ? Don't fix it if it ain't broken. De la vega will trip Knox in 4.4, so leave it as it is.
Sent from my N9005
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Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.

SSJ3Rob said:
Will do. Was just worried about official updates and warranty if phone still says custom but knox is not tripped. But bell outsources another company for repairs and doesn't send back to Samsung directly so I probably don't need to worry to much..
I used CWM because I've used it for a couple years with my S2 and enjoyed the features so when I saw cwm was avaliable for note 3 I jumped on it.
But there is no way to revert to stock without tripping count?
Thanks.
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Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
Sent From My SM-N9005 To All You Wonder Nobodies!!

Khizar said:
Flashing stock using odin should rever everything back to stock and possibly not trip knox counte, I am saying possibly cuz nobody has tried to flash stock recovery and try to keep knox cool as custom recoveries have tripped everyone's knox AFAIK. But your phone FW or maybe something else might make your device an exception.
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I will leave as is for now until more info on the subject surfaces. As much as I want to try to flash back to stock recovery and test your theory I will hold out and not mess around with CWM or mess with apps requiring root to much incase it decides to trip the counter.
Thanks.

Un-Root S5 GM-900F with Odin

Hi,
Its been a few years since ive Rooted or been ontop of the forums ect.
Just wanted to let other people know my experience with Un-Rooting my S5 GM-900F
- Rooted with Odin + tar file
- Un-Rooted with Super SU
- Typically their is now an update available but cannot update as Samsung recognise that the phone was previously rooted.
- On a PC or Mac download Kies and update.
- Nothing has flagged up with any counters, did not experience any problems with KNOX
Hope this helps everyone.

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Its been a few years since ive Rooted or been ontop of the forums ect.
Just wanted to let other people know my experience with Un-Rooting my S5 GM-900F
- Rooted with Odin + tar file
- Un-Rooted with Super SU
- Typically their is now an update available but cannot update as Samsung recognise that the phone was previously rooted.
- On a PC or Mac download Kies and update.
- Nothing has flagged up with any counters, did not experience any problems with KNOX
Hope this helps everyone.
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Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm

castillofr said:
Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm
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Not true, KNOX will still say 0x1 after unrooting, he probably means the system status and binaries are reset to Official again.

castillofr said:
Using CF Auto Root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
Unrooting with SuperSU and updating with Kies have reset the KNOX WARRANTY VOID to 0x0?!
Until now, it was impossible to reset KNOX!!!
Please confirm
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Hi,
Well the uninstall of SuperSU went ahead with no problems, a box did flag up saying something about would you like to disable KNOX before continuing and just confirmed it.
Since the Un-Root, i have just opened KNOX again and havent had any problems at all. I did complete a factory reset just for my OCD needs with it and nothing has been triggered and no flags or counters. Still have the KNOX app with the set up wizard client available to get it going if i ever need it again so..
Didnt realise that people where having a problem with KNOX if im honest, when i finish work i shall have a play around with it and update this if i encounter any problems.

gee2012 said:
Not true, KNOX will still say 0x1 after unrooting, he probably means the system status and binaries are reset to Official again.
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This might well be the case, i dont fully understand all of the tech terms regarding the binaries but only have a little knowledge when it comes to checking the counters and any flags or problems.
- Say for example that KNOX was tripped, a) What would happen and when/where would i encounter a problem and b) Is their any detrimental effect on the overall phone or just for KNOX?
Regards.

MaxiBizzle said:
This might well be the case, i dont fully understand all of the tech terms regarding the binaries but only have a little knowledge when it comes to checking the counters and any flags or problems.
- Say for example that KNOX was tripped, a) What would happen and when/where would i encounter a problem and b) Is their any detrimental effect on the overall phone or just for KNOX?
Regards.
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KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1 and you are rooted. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again after you flashed a stock rom.

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gee2012 said:
KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again if you flashed a stock rom.
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Hi,
Well KNOX is working as it did the first day i got the S5 and havent encountered any problems nor seen any flags. IF their were to be a void flag 0x1 where would i see this?
I was just nosing around on the forums and saw that alot of people were Un-Rooting via SuperSU and then using Kies to then boot the stock rom.
Thanks for your help and advice. Sorry this seemed like a dud thread!

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Well KNOX is working as it did the first day i got the S5 and havent encountered any problems nor seen any flags. IF their were to be a void flag 0x1 where would i see this?
I was just nosing around on the forums and saw that alot of people were Un-Rooting via SuperSU and then using Kies to then boot the stock rom.
Thanks for your help and advice. Sorry this seemed like a dud thread!
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KNOX is only tripped intentionaly (not by accident), that is if you root with CF Auto Root or flash a custom recovery or kernel with (Mobile) Odin.

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gee2012 said:
KNOX is only tripped intentionaly (not by accident), that is if you root with CF Auto Root or flash a custom recovery or kernel with (Mobile) Odin.
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Ok no worries. Completed the Root with Odin v3.09 i believe, did not flash any custom roms or anything was just playing around with xposed installer, Mobile Odin was never used.
Not sure if that makes any difference?

MaxiBizzle said:
Ok no worries. Completed the Root with Odin v3.09 i believe, did not flash any custom roms or anything was just playing around with xposed installer, Mobile Odin was never used.
Not sure if that makes any difference?
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What what software did you root with Odin? If you used CF Root your flag is 0x1.

gee2012 said:
What what software did you root with Odin? If you used CF Root your flag is 0x1.
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Hi,
Oh right i see what you mean now, sorry for the delay. It was CF-Root

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Oh right i see what you mean now, sorry for the delay. It was CF-Root
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As you live in the EU warranty for the device is still valid when rooted/tripped KNOX unless the manufacturer can prove the issue is caused by rooting.

gee2012 said:
As you live in the EU warranty for the device is still valid when rooted/tripped KNOX unless the manufacturer can prove the issue is caused by rooting.
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Hi,
Oh right i didnt know that. Is it just within the EU that the warranty is still valid? Are their any other countries that are the same?
Just a general question then, with regarding the voidance of KNOX or anything, would that only effect me if i wanted to send the phone back for whatever reason? The counters for example wouldnt made a difference for my phone and daily useage anyway so if i just keep the phone and continue to not having any problems i could have as many counters on it as possible?
Just getting my head around the whole void/counters thing.

MaxiBizzle said:
Hi,
Oh right i didnt know that. Is it just within the EU that the warranty is still valid? Are their any other countries that are the same?
Just a general question then, with regarding the voidance of KNOX or anything, would that only effect me if i wanted to send the phone back for whatever reason? The counters for example wouldnt made a difference for my phone and daily useage anyway so if i just keep the phone and continue to not having any problems i could have as many counters on it as possible?
Just getting my head around the whole void/counters thing.
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Afaik only in the EU by EU law wich superceeds OEM terms/conditions.

gee2012 said:
KNOX, Private Mode and off course warranty are affected when the KNOX void flag says 0x1 and you are rooted. If you unrooted correctly as discribed by the OP Knox and Private Mode should work again after you flashed a stock rom.
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I have currently official status but Knox 0x1.
The one & only thing concerned then is warranty. Knox based apps and all others should work as before Knox 0x1.
Hawke84 said: "If the Knox warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use knox softwareas your device has been flagged as insecure. By this i mean that if your workplace / company supports bring your own device to work for corporate emails etc and they use knox to keep security your device will not allow this. You are still able to use future samsung firmware releases with the knox flag 0x1. hope this makes sense. sorry for any confusion this has caused!"

Custom ROM without knox 0x1?

Hello, is this possible, to flash custom firmware without knox 0x1? I saw somewhere that someone wrote about how the ODIN, but I do not know if it's true.

Repo92 said:
Hello, is this possible, to flash custom firmware without knox 0x1? I saw somewhere that someone wrote about how the ODIN, but I do not know if it's true.
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first of all this is the wrong forum to ask questions and secondly look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
i guess that is the answer to your question on flashing without tripping knox. on the side note, next time pls search

Sorry and thanks