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Opinions moving from iPad to SGN 10.1?

So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.

Just go down to your local brick and mortar and play with one for an hour and decide for yourself. Or, if you're incapable of deciding for yourself then head down to the Apple retail store and the geniuses will happily tell you what to buy.

S Pen is very accurate (I haven't seen anyone complain about it being off a little) and very responsive.
It's as not fluid as an iPad, but should be fluid enough. I actually returned Asus Transformer Infinity before buying this one, and I can say that Note 10.1 is ten time more fluid than Transformer Infinity. It addition, with Jelly Bean (with Project Butter) update coming within this year it will be much better. I don't think you will feel like you need Jelly Bean though because it already works smoothly as is.
Coming from iPad 2, the screen will look amazing with higher resolution. However, if fluidity is your priority, iPad is probably the best choice. But I have a feeling that you will be happy with this device.

My wife was fed up with her iPad 2 (it was free, though, a business gift) . When I had my SGN10.1 she played around with it for 1hr , got in her car and went to buy her own SGN10.1 ....... :good:

Earthdog said:
So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
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Gingerbread??? Tab 10.1 was Honeycomb... That said it had a Tegra2, Tegras are notorious for being first on the market to bump up core count but horrendously poor performance per core, and oddly, some of the worst GPU performance which is odd considering that NVidia is a GPU company.
If you're happy with the I9300, you should be happy with the N80xx - Same resolution and exact same CPU/GPU.
In addition, once Jellybean hits, UI performance should be significantly improved... Assuming Samsung doesn't dork it up. Might want to look at how the I9300 Jellybean leak is performing.

Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.

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Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Just return my Asus TF700 and bought my second Note(first one went to U of Iowa with my daughter) and couldn't be happier.
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This is not a hard choice. The iPad is a very different device if your into pen. If the question is about the pen being solid, it's solid.
Feel secure that your getting good pen from this.

I came from the iPad. I've been trying to switch to Android for over a year. Of the half dozen Android tablets I've tried, the Note 10.1 is my switching device. Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping the iPad mostly because my daughter uses it for some games and secondly because there are some games I like that Android doesn't have (Kingdom Rush!).
So yeah, my retina iPad has been reduced to sloppy seconds.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1

I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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Mafiatounes said:
I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).

I had the iPad1 the day it came out, and the iPad2 when it came out. The only reason I bought either tablet was that I wanted to use it for taking notes (without needing pen and paper) and reading PDF's (in a more natural way than on a laptop), and they only did one of those things. I sold my iPad2 a few months ago, and have just now picked up the Note 10.1. Me like!
The build quality is a little lower than I've been used to with the iPad, but feels acceptable in the hand.
The note-taking software is a little rough around the edges, as if Samsung doesn't realize they can tap into a HUGE education market with it.
In terms of taking notes in class, it's everything I ever hoped for -- the digitizer is very accurate, super rarely messes up.
Lack of high-res screen is disappointing, but it still looks a lot better than my iPad ever did!
The whole point of the Note 10.1 is taking notes and drawing. Hopefully Samsung will realize this at some point and polish up the rough edges and market it for education, ie. taking notes in class, but 'til then it's a fine tablet as is.

Entropy512 said:
I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.

Mafiatounes said:
Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....

HasC said:
With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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I know some people yell about specs that they only heard about without knowing what it adds, but it is not in my case, i usually browse a lot and i also hate seeing big pixels like for example on the iPad 2, this is what i liked about the New iPad the browsing experience was quitte good (with Chrome) and i could not see any pixels in normal use. That is why it will be the most important for me on a tablet.
I've had a lot of experience with Samsung and HTC in the past and it was the same as you HTC was a master, but if the Note 10.1 resembles the S3 that i own now than it will be the tab to beat. Samsung improved a lot since the Galaxy S in terms of software implementation and support at least this is what i experience now on my S3.

The only time you will notice the resolution difference with the Note is if you are trying to read really tiny text. Othewise this screen looks totally amazing.
That being said it all comes down to the s-pen. If you want a pen get the Note, if not get the ipad.
Sent from my awesome Note 10.1

Even after IFA announcements still no perfect system

As most of people here are aware, IFA is going on right now and several new Windows 8 tablet were announced with major companies including Samsung, and ASUS. Sony also announced new Android tablet Xperia S. I had a hope that during this event, I will hear my dream system (at this moment) but unfortunately it didn't happen.
As this is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum, and I currently own one here are quick comparison of the new systems to Note 10.1.
ASUS Vivo Tablets series
- None of them have FHD screen.
- Higher price. *Based on other tablet, it is almost no doubt this system will be higher priced.
Given the lack of FHD screen, the only potential benefit would be that it is Windows 8 system rather than Android. But for the 10-12 inch tablet to be true power house of production is just not practical for me. So as far as for what I do, I don't see it neither benefit/weakness over android os.
Samsung ativ series
The pro edition actually comes with FHD display, which is phenomenal and in fact this was what I was looking forward the most; however,
- Battery life of 4-5 hours DVD playtime
- Weight of 800g+
- Price of $1000+
Its a bit too heavy to hold in one hand and continuously read ebook. Battery life of 4-5 hours dvd play time is actually major reason I hated my old windows tablet because it won't last actual day, and who knows with some additional multitasking it can easily go down further. In fact, transformer infinity has 9+ hours of video play time; however, with wifi browsing it goes down to 5 hours, and with games only 3 hours.
Xperia S series
- No FHD screen
- 1GB RAM
It's $100 cheaper but otherwise, pretty much inferior system in every respect.
My ideal system at this point is either
Galaxy Note 10.1 with FHD screen. OR
Transformer Infinity with longer battery life and stability that of iPad (I wouldn't ask that of Note 10.1 because that's too much to ask).

Galaxy Note 10.1 Impressions and Weighing against Windows 8

I have had the Galaxy Note 10.1 since August 13th, so more than a month now and I have to say it's one of the best tablets I have ever owned.
Here are my impressions with some minor cons that need to be ironed out:
1) Amazing Screen, approaching Super AMOLED Plus levels (I owned a galaxy tab 7.7 that I sold to buy this one).
Minor Con: It does appear pixelated, especially the home screen folders and apps.
2) Amazing battery life (I have seen screen-on times upto 11.5 hrs and even with wi-fi always on and pulling in email from 4 accounts, it doesn't seem to consume any battery at all when the screen is turned off)
Minor Con: After an update pushed by Samsung it affected battery life slightly, although I am still getting 10 hrs of screen-on time with a lot of web browsing, videos, sometimes both at the same time using pop-up play.
3) Multi-tasking is powerful. Loving the ability to read a PDF/PPT and take notes in S Notes
Minor Con: S-Notes auto brightness increase after the latest update is killing my retina and is seriously annoying. Also, that giant scrolling/panning page makes S-Notes unusable in split screen mode. Hope these issues are addressed promptly through an update.
4) Brilliant S-Pen: I don't use notepads anymore. Seriously. I take notes everywhere, in meetings, jot down ideas, practice sketching. It has made me more productive in general. Coupled with its light weight and long battery life it's a god send. I will never buy any mobile computing device that doesn't have a Wacom pen functionality ever again. Once galaxy note 2 comes out on verizon I am replacing my galaxy nexus on launch day.
Here is the fly in the ointment though. Windows 8 is coming. And for anyone who has ever tried OneNote with a Wacom pen, knows its just unparalleled in terms of inking and makes S-Note, as powerful as it is, look like a hack job. Since Microsoft has had a long time to perfect it, they have taken it to another level that's just hard to touch for any new entrants.
Also, Windows OS will allow me to run my office software (I plan to get the x86 versions and have no interest in the RT version) and do programming (I write software as a hobby) while giving me much of the same multimedia functionality as Android OS. Granted Windows 8 won't nearly have as many apps or games as Android, but it has most of the essential things that I use and need from the get-go.
Currently, I am leaning towards the Samsung ATIV Smart PC as it will have S-Note also (apart from OneNote), so I can port all the notes that I have created on my galaxy note 10.1 to it, although it doesn't look as sleek as the Asus Vivo Tab.
What will I be sacrificing if I get a Windows 8 based convertible tablet like Samsung ATIV Smart PC or Asus Vivo Tab?
Cost is definitely a factor, but the productivity gain offsets that. What else?
Battery life: Not so much with Intel second generation Atom (both devices are rated for 13.5 hrs of battery life, 10 hrs of video)
GPU prowess: Galaxy Note 10.1 will definitely trump integrated Intel HD whatever in the Windows 8 devices. So if playing games are important, note 10.1 is a better choice.
Apps: Android OS has far more number of apps. Not much of an issue if you just want productivity apps, but fun apps are lacking in the Windows 8 store as of now. It might change when it actually releases, but it will definitely take some time to come up to parity.
Anything else?

Discussed ad nauseam here…
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869148
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869828
Bottom line is that until they’re in people’s hands all debate is rhetorical. And from early pricing reports, especially for non-RT devices, they better be good.

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Thanks, but we dont need multiple threads on similar subjects.​

Surface Pro 1 vs Note 10.1 2014 Edition

Wonder what your thoughts on this is?
I have the 2014 edition, but since the surface 1 is on sale, I was thinking of returning it and getting a surface pro 1? The reason being that it is Windows, has active stylus and is a tablet. That way I don't have to use apps to use Microsoft items.
Also, I don't have a laptop. I use my Note 10.1 for school and taking notes (drawing + typing at same time).

I have both and it would really depend on what you want to do with the device. Note taking is much easier on the 10.1, at least how I take notes in meetings. The pro is just not comfortable to hold and take notes. It may be different if you always have a desk to take notes on. The 10.1 does not compare with productivity in a business setting, the pro owns that category (it should it is an ultrabook in tablet form factor). Remember office is not free with the pro like it is on the RT, so you have to factor that in to your cost.
The other issue with the pro is the battery life, if I am easy on the device I can get around 4.5-5hrs without having to plug it in. The 10.1 lasts an entire day with ease.

I concur with the above. I have both and find myself favoring the note almost exclusively. Comparatively, the surface is heavy and thick, not to mention that it gets pretty hot. The only use case that I even consider for the surface is with the full tactile keyboard kickstanded on a work surface... Which at that rate, just get an ultrabook, maybe one you can install windows 7 on.

I have the Dell Venue 11 5130 with battery keyboard. Best overall device that I have owned. I like my Note 2014 a lot and ditto for the 5130.
I would choose the Note over my iPad 4, but the 5130 actually has over 50% better battery life than either tablet due to the keyboard battery. Best wifi range of any other device I have tested as well.
If just one device period besides a phone, I would choose the 5130 due to versatility. Runs x86 apps and MS store apps fine with no fan and does not get hot.

How does the M3 compare to Nexus 7 FHD?

I have my trusty 2013 Nexus 7 FHD which is showing its age already big time. The thing is really slow and beat up.
My primary use is to load mkvs and download offline Netflix / Amazon movies to watch when I travel.
Nexus 7 users, how would you say the M3 stacks up against the N7? I am ok with root only and Nova launcher, don't care about custom ROMs

As a former owner of Nexus 7 2013 will say.
1) Size: Huawei it's a bit bigger, heavier, but thinner. Huawei wins.
2) OS: Nexus 7 gives much more freedom in installing whatever you want, where Huawei reduces your choice to EMUI only. It's not bad, I like this system, but Nexus is a winner here.
3) Performance: Snapdragon S4 Pro (or Snapdragon 600) in Nexus 7 is old now and doesn't give good performance. Kirin 950 is not the best CPU too, but it's faster any way. The question left it's GPU. Qualcomm's variant is better for games, has better capability with 3D, but in Nexus 7 it's old enough, so you won't play modern games on it. Neither you will on Mediapad. Huawei wins, but as for GPU I think it's a draw.
4) Memory: Nexus 7 has non extendable 32GB, Huawei has 64 + MicroSD. Huawei wins.
5) Sound: both devices have good sound, Huawei is louder and it's sound it's sharper, Nexus's sound is warmer and lampier. Draw.
6) Screen: FullHD on nexus 7 (okay, not full, a bit bigger), 7 inches. Huawei has QuadHD and 8.6 inches. Also I like Huawei's colors more than Nexus's. Huawei wins.
7) Cameras: both devices have sh...tty cameras. Draw.
So, you see, comparing this two devices is much like comparing an old notebook to the new one. The new one will win because it's new, but if you don't need all this new and in-trend stuff of new devices, you can pass by and stay on your current.

What about 2 GB of RAM vs 4 GB of RAM? SD 600 is a very old SoC and the GPU cannot be that bad compared to a GPU from 2013. I have a G Pad 8.3, it has the same Soc. I installed Nougat on it (AOSP) and I can already tell that the GPU is a little overwhelmed by the new games. It used to be ok on MarshMallow.

Thanks for your comments. It is so difficult to find a good replacement for the Nexus 7 2013, really sucks. Maybe an iPad 4 mini is in order

As long as I delete the cache now and then, the Nexus 7 remains perfectly usable. Only found browsing became a bit of a slug on it after Marshmallow, but UC browser seems to be the least demanding browser for me. Ran Puffin Browser before, but they changed the interface in the new version and was not to my liking.
Every Time I think about moving on, I ask myself what can't the Nexus 7 do anymore that a 2017 tablet in this range can. Newer games are probably its biggest challenge, but that's not an issue for me. BS player and Kodi continue to play everything I throw at it. The Meenova mini micro sd card expansion dongle stores media on 3 128gb cards I have sitting around and also works well streaming from a Seagate 2TB wireless drive, so storage isn't a problem. The LTE version I have works with project-fi which splits the load with my Nexus 6P so I don't drain the battery on my phone throughout the day. Battery life is around 80% of its original (accubattery), so that's not really a problem, so I've got nothing to complain about except the itch to upgrade to newer hardware. The m3 was at the top of my list when it first game out, but i decided it would have been an impulse buy that didn't really justify the cost at that point. In May, Lenovo is releasing its new 8 inch tab pro tablet. I'm going to wait to see what the reviews are like on that. Besides, if I've continued to wait this long, the rumor of a huawei M4 will probably be going about by the time I actually get around to making a decision.
For me, the Nexus 7 2013 remains to be a trustworthy companion, so its hard to just move on. Doesn't have the latest specs, but its functional for my needs and like I said if you clear the cache out within recovery mode, the performance is greatly improved.

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As long as I delete the cache now and then, the Nexus 7 remains perfectly usable. Only found browsing became a bit of a slug on it after Marshmallow, but UC browser seems to be the least demanding browser for me. Ran Puffin Browser before, but they changed the interface in the new version and was not to my liking.
Every Time I think about moving on, I ask myself what can't the Nexus 7 do anymore that a 2017 tablet in this range can. Newer games are probably its biggest challenge, but that's not an issue for me. BS player and Kodi continue to play everything I throw at it. The Meenova mini micro sd card expansion dongle stores media on 3 128gb cards I have sitting around and also works well streaming from a Seagate 2TB wireless drive, so storage isn't a problem. The LTE version I have works with project-fi which splits the load with my Nexus 6P so I don't drain the battery on my phone throughout the day. Battery life is around 80% of its original (accubattery), so that's not really a problem, so I've got nothing to complain about except the itch to upgrade to newer hardware. The m3 was at the top of my list when it first game out, but i decided it would have been an impulse buy that didn't really justify the cost at that point. In May, Lenovo is releasing its new 8 inch tab pro tablet. I'm going to wait to see what the reviews are like on that. Besides, if I've continued to wait this long, the rumor of a huawei M4 will probably be going about by the time I actually get around to making a decision.
For me, the Nexus 7 2013 remains to be a trustworthy companion, so its hard to just move on. Doesn't have the latest specs, but its functional for my needs and like I said if you clear the cache out within recovery mode, the performance is greatly improved.
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Good points all around. Actually my only gripe is the lack of storage.
As mentioned I don't browse or play games, just use the tablet for movies.
I guess I will get a micro usb flash drive and use that as an extended memory when needed.

Reviving an old thread to ask for more opinions on whether the Huawei M3 is a worthwhile upgrade to the 2013 Nexus 7. I like the form factor of 7-8" tablets with widescreen.
I do not play many games on it, mostly web browsing and video from youtube or amazon instant video. The Huawei speakers are supposed to be louder and with better quality sound. Some of the reviews on amazon suggested it is a good upgrade for N7 owners. Also interested in sd card support and putting music library on it in. My N7 only has 16 gb internal storage, obviously less than that user available.
Also, I don't care about custom roms.

I bought a Mediapad M3, WiFi only. I like it quite a lot. I did not own a Nexus 7, but I had a G Pad 8.3 that I passed along in the family to replace a dead tablet. I do not regret buying it. I am not even mentioning that Nougat update will come and can be installed even now, although it does not appear to be final.

I replaced my Nexus 7 2013 with a Mediapad M3. I felt like I was holding out forever for a new Nexus tablet.
The M3 is less comfortable to hold and feels more fragile. I guess the screen is better but I can't really tell. I have a European version of the M3 but still it doesn't seem to want to connect to 5GHz, and I'm still running EMUI4.1. Seems to have better battery time, especially when watching x265 encoded videos. Speakers are a lot better, with the N7 I would use earplugs or a BT speaker but there's no need for that on the M3.
I'm fairly happy with it, overall. There is not a lot of options out there

Put some good headphones on the M3, you will be surprised how well it sounds. I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 202 II and they absolutely rock with the M3. I bought a second pair with sound controls for the G4 and the old G Pad 8.3, but it does not sound half as well as Sennheiser. I know Sennheiser HD 202 II are not that fancy, but they still are a little better than the average headset.