Rooted 4.3, how to upgrade to 4.4 and maintain root? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Im on 4.3 MK2 rooted, how do I go about upgrading to 4.4 without losing my root?

check the playstore for a 4.3 root keeper--not sure if there is one--still may not work
then you have to re-root 4.4--not sure if that is available either

trillog said:
Im on 4.3 MK2 rooted, how do I go about upgrading to 4.4 without losing my root?
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Last I checked there is no root for the 4.4.2 leak. You might want to check that thread to be sure.
As for the future official att ota... Only time will tell.
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guut13 said:
Last I checked there is no root for the 4.4.2 leak. You might want to check that thread to be sure.
As for the future official att ota... Only time will tell.
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The 4.4 att or a comes out tomorrow, I'm actually interested in upgrading so I want to know if it's possible retain root while upgrading. Or if we should just wait for a 4.4 root

trillog said:
The 4.4 att or a comes out tomorrow, I'm actually interested in upgrading so I want to know if it's possible retain root while upgrading. Or if we should just wait for a 4.4 root
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Currently there is no root for 4.4.2 Kit Kat. But as we all know from past experience, it's only a matter of time before the great minds of XDA make it happen.

trillog said:
The 4.4 att or a comes out tomorrow, I'm actually interested in upgrading so I want to know if it's possible retain root while upgrading. Or if we should just wait for a 4.4 root
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I think I answered your question. There is no root keeper for 4.3 afaik and even if there was, it may not work. If you NEED root don't update.
Or, wait till a 4.4 root method comes out--

If you have Supersu pro try enabling "survival mode"
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If you have Supersu pro try enabling "survival mode"
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I read somewhere that it didnt work for a user

mmm?

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Rooting with MK2?

I have a new S4, and I haven't found a tutorial on how to root with the new Mk2 update. Can I use tutorials from previous updates, or is there something out there that I haven't seen yet? Thanks a lot!
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Search more. Use cf auto
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Ok, I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
I'm seeing a lot of people having issues, losing wifi, etc., and having to revert to previous updates. Will I have to do that even though I've not rooted yet?
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jordan8201 said:
Ok, I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
I'm seeing a lot of people having issues, losing wifi, etc., and having to revert to previous updates. Will I have to do that even though I've not rooted yet?
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That's it. Just make sure to read everything and understand it..
And about wifi loss and issues, people have been reporting it, although I'm still on MJA Stock Rooted with no issues whatsoever...
GS4 Stock Rooted MJA 4.3,Philz Touch CWM,HotSpot Mod,Transparent Weather Widget...
jordan8201 said:
I have a new S4, and I haven't found a tutorial on how to root with the new Mk2 update. Can I use tutorials from previous updates, or is there something out there that I haven't seen yet? Thanks a lot!
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rooted my mk2 2 days ago. and the best flawless way to do it is. push philz recovery thru odin. and flash superuser.zip reboot and your done (i did have to go into the playstore and update super user to get it to work)
Philz recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Stock Mk2 Deodexed Rom with working Hotspot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567353
Super User https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qu70s3dq0kv3en/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.zip
If you're not rooted, you should be able to just take the update. IMO, most of the issues are coming from rooted devices that may not have been totally clean (stock rom, stock recovery, total factory reset) when the update was taken. That's not a worry for a stock phone.
If you want to root afterwards, the CF Auto Root is the way to go for sure.
jejb said:
If you're not rooted, you should be able to just take the update. IMO, most of the issues are coming from rooted devices that may not have been totally clean (stock rom, stock recovery, total factory reset) when the update was taken. That's not a worry for a stock phone.
If you want to root afterwards, the CF Auto Root is the way to go for sure.
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Awesome. Thanks guys. I'll definitely use the auto root as soon as I can get access to a Windows pc.
jordan8201 said:
I have a new S4, and I haven't found a tutorial on how to root with the new Mk2 update. Can I use tutorials from previous updates, or is there something out there that I haven't seen yet? Thanks a lot!
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Did you take the 4.3 OTA and have the Knox bootloader on it?
epi4gtn said:
Did you take the 4.3 OTA and have the Knox bootloader on it?
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I'm not sure. How would I find out?
jordan8201 said:
I'm not sure. How would I find out?
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Two ways. Go to the Download screen and see if there's a line for Knox. It will be either 0x0 or 0x1.
The other way is to go to About Device and see if your at 4.3
jejb said:
Two ways. Go to the Download screen and see if there's a line for Knox. It will be either 0x0 or 0x1.
The other way is to go to About Device and see if your at 4.3
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Yes, I'm definitely at 4.3.
jordan8201 said:
Yes, I'm definitely at 4.3.
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One thing to keep in mind. If you take the MK2 OTA, some stuff has not been updated for it yet. Like the free wifi hotspot/tether mod.
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One thing to keep in mind. If you take the MK2 OTA, some stuff has not been updated for it yet. Like the free wifi hotspot/tether mod.
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I'm not sure what you mean. I already have MK2. Are you saying if I root now, I won't be able to use the hotspot?
hotspot mod
jordan8201 said:
I'm not sure what you mean. I already have MK2. Are you saying if I root now, I won't be able to use the hotspot?
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I have searched, read, searched, read and search and read and there seems to not be a hotspot mod for rooted mk2 stock rom
Regarding Hotspot on MK2, I found this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106
And this individual was able to get hotspot working on MK2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106&postcount=88
BUT I can't figure out if this person had the OTA 4.3 MJA/Knox Bootloader beforehand or not because I can't post in the dev forum.
I don't even think I'm able to send PM's, I tried to PM him but don't see the message in my sent items folder. If anyone can figure out if rawintellect 's post is accurate, I'll flash my phone immediately, to hell with the Knox bit.
I probably wouldn't keep the stock rom anyway, so I don't think this would affect me.
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[Q] Help please, SGH-I337 Z

Hello, my friends. I need help from us. I have Samsung SGH-I337 Z, I337ZTUUAMH1 4.2.2 android version. I need to update this telephone. I bought it with ROOT, Sim-Unlock yet. I want to update this for latest android version like a 4.3 or 4.4. I want to know can i do this or not? And if i can, how i can do this? Thank you, I counting on your help.
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Help please
To get the ota update you need to return your device to stock. I googled i337Z firmware and found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448794
If it updates to 4.4.2 there currently is not a root method so if you need root you'll have problems.
Edit, oh, backup everything first as it'll delete everything
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Up, i need 4.3 android on i337z mh1, not stock update
Well the 4.4.2 update is available but I'm not going to update because it might loose root
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lnxpro91 said:
Well the 4.4.2 update is available but I'm not going to update because it might loose root
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You can try supersu's survival mode or hope that towel root works.
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lnxpro91 said:
Well the 4.4.2 update is available but I'm not going to update because it might loose root
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I can confirm that towel root works on the I337Z with 4.4.2, build TUUBNE2. However, Safestrap doesn't seem to work. Also, at least for the time being, I don't see any way of unlocking the bootloader with 4.4, so you may want to try to unlock the bootloader before upgrading to 4.4, if that's of interest to you.
agree I rooted a store demo with towel root and it worked hahaha , but I haven't tried safestap on a phone running kitkat , mine is running the intika rom now and I'm not planing to update for now
One thing that is a bit concerning to me, is that towel root requires internet access to function.. it makes me wonder why.
For the most part, I'm ok with the stock (rooted) rom, as I can disable/cleanup most of what I need to. The only thing I haven't been able to fix is the missing hotspot option - not sure how to get this option to show up.

"Upgrade" from MLG to NC2 (leaked KK to OTA KK)

so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
amendolaro1 said:
so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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I want to upgrade from MLG to NC2 too. However, there is no direct way to do it at the moment.
However, if you are still at A2, you can use Safestrap to switch between MJ5 and NC2 (Please don't flash NC2 aboot.mbn!!!!!!)
Yes there is just do the mj5 restore that is in this section then follow one of the guides on how to install the ota
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As Jerrycoffman said. . . .
Restore back to MJ5 using this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Don't root using the last part. It removes knox which will block you from being able to update the phone.
Next there will be a OTA to install its around 60mb. This is NB4
Lastly, just download kitkat OTA that's available. This may take sometime because it is a larger file size.
A lot of people have had issues installing the Kitkat OTA (including me). It fails at a certain percentage.
If you have this problem just follow this guide to fix it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701062
Make sure you back up any apps and files you need before starting this
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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Agree 100%!!!
mutantblack said:
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
jreed3786 said:
There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
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i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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As far as I know, that's a NO.
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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Isis can work on kit kat. I had it working but changed to wallet out of principal
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Best solution:
Go to Best Buy and ask one of the Samsung people to get you to stock, in less than 10 to 15 minutes you'll be in OTA Kit Kat.
No reason to have OTA kitkat when you lose root.
I use ISIS daily with the following mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346

Has anyone successfully retained root from 4.3 to kit-kay 4.4?

I've seen several posts on using the leaked 4.4. Has anyone successfully retained root after 4.4 ota using the official 4.3 currently rooted? I really don't want to install safestrap or the leaked 4.4 .
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Whats the big deal about 4.4? Should I just freeze 4.3 to keep root?
tcbusch said:
I've seen several posts on using the leaked 4.4. Has anyone successfully retained root after 4.4 ota using the official 4.3 currently rooted? I really don't want to install safestrap or the leaked 4.4 .
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Whats the big deal about 4.4? Should I just freeze 4.3 to keep root?
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Read. It really is a very special release and everybody that's running a rooted note 3 should be on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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Everyone retains root. You have to be rooted to install it and the rom is already rooted.
It's really good.
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tcbusch said:
I've seen several posts on using the leaked 4.4. Has anyone successfully retained root after 4.4 ota using the official 4.3 currently rooted? I really don't want to install safestrap or the leaked 4.4 .
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Whats the big deal about 4.4? Should I just freeze 4.3 to keep root?
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If you want the already rooted 4.4, I'm pretty darn sure you MUST use safestrap. Otherwise, you are stuck with the un-rooted leak.
Yeah. Safestrap and the rooted leak is the only way to go.
I see what he is asking now. Has anyone who was running rooted 4.3 taken an official OTA update to kit kat and retained root.. Seeing as the official kit kat OTA on Verizon hasn't happened yet, nobody can say.
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neyenlives said:
Yeah. Safestrap and the rooted leak is the only way to go.
I see what he is asking now. Has anyone who was running rooted 4.3 taken an official OTA update to kit kat and retained root.. Seeing as the official kit kat OTA on Verizon hasn't happened yet, nobody can say.
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Yes this is exactly what I am asking. Thanks
I like the phone the way it is and have tweaked a few things with xposed and so I want to keep root. However if there is a wonderful new feature on 4.4 that I can't live without then I might need to figure out 4.4 root.
For now I am just going to freeze the update service.
Actually the official OTA is probably going to be very bad and we may not be able to do as much with it. May not even get root. The leaked version is tweaked for performance, and already rooted, and has some features that would never be in an official release. I highly recommend you go ahead with it and forget about trying to be the only guy on here that wants to wait for the official leak and possibly loose root in the process. You won't get much help rooting it when everybody is already on a rooted kit kat. Nobody is going to waste time with it.
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Gladyscoleman said:
I agree with you 4.3 better then 4.4. because KK have some app compatibility issues.
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Only poorly supported apps
Gladyscoleman said:
I agree with you 4.3 better then 4.4. because KK have some app compatibility issues.
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Only ones you don't want. Every app I have works fine on KK. Good devs have already updated their apps.
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Ignore.
neyenlives said:
Everyone retains root. You have to be rooted to install it and the rom is already rooted.
It's really good.
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He's talking about taking the OTA from rooted 4.3 with an app such as Root Keeper.
LexusBrian400 said:
He's talking about taking the OTA from rooted 4.3 with an app such as Root Keeper.
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From what I read a while ago Root Keeper does not work with 4.3. I checked and that is still the case. I can only assume it also would not work for 4.4.
I did read that SuperSU has a preserve root function. I think somewhere else I read you temp unroot then preserve root. After taking the OTA you enable root again.
Something like this.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1s700k/want_root_on_441_download_latest_supersu_v180/
LexusBrian400 said:
He's talking about taking the OTA from rooted 4.3 with an app such as Root Keeper.
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I know but there's not been an OTA yet so how would anyone know if it works on the OTA?
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The leaked version is a gold mine! It allows you to go back to 4.3 at any time via odin where as the official will not allow this. I am currently running leaked version and it is flawless. You dont have to have SafeStrap active after installing it just need to have it installed. I havent even opened SS since installing the leaked 4.4.2 update.
Galaxy Note 3 Stock Rooted Xposed
Galaxy Gear Rooted Null Rom
Suck It Nerds!
neyenlives said:
I know but there's not been an OTA yet so how would anyone know if it works on the OTA?
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This is the second reason for asking. If people ota upgrade that have root and want to experiment then they could post their results here. So I believe I need to ask this before people start accepting ota.

[Q] ROMs for the KK update

After updating to KK and installing safestrap i have the option to create roms so I am just wondering if anyone is working on roms for the KK update because I wouldn't mind testing some of them. :victory:
Thank You
How did you install safestrap after kitkat update? I have Verizon note 3
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talonzme said:
How did you install safestrap after kitkat update? I have Verizon note 3
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well i usually download my apks on my pc then put it to my sdcard......but before that i also installed busybox, then i installed safestrap and i believe i had to do i twice because the first time i didn't get the safestrap boot menu. then everything is almost the same like the older safestrap except now i can have 16gb of memory reserved for one rom :victory:
You have to have root first correct? I have not found a method for root yet. Any ideas or pointers? Every android device I have, except this one, it's rooted
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talonzme said:
You have to have root first correct? I have not found a method for root yet. Any ideas or pointers? Every android device I have, except this one, it's rooted
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There are two safe methods i know and they are one button click.....vroot Chinese
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434453
or English version( just google it thats what i did) and kingo root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
btw are you trying to root the 4.3.x or 4.4.2? one more ? did you get the KK update from OTA or did you get the leaked one?
Hope that helps
It is 4.4.2 from ota update.
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talonzme said:
It is 4.4.2 from ota update.
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Ya then you might be screwed, unless someone finds a way around it so you and many other people can root their phones.......if i were you i would try to mess around with the rooting options that i linked previously or check this out:
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...-3-lte-sm-n9005-new-xxuenb7-firmware-tutorial
Also try doing some research on how to root a note 3 4.4.2
Hope that helps
Thanks
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Thanks
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No problem, happy to help
idrey said:
After updating to KK and installing safestrap i have the option to create roms so I am just wondering if anyone is working on roms for the KK update because I wouldn't mind testing some of them. :victory:
Thank You
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There are a few KK Roms that developers are posting in the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Android Development Forum. I'm currently on Bajasur's BajaRom Build 14 and it's running very smooth.

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