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As stated, this thread is purely about the display screen.
I previously had Optimus 2x before, and after dramas and adventures, purchasing an Xperia Arc/Arc S might be part of my plan soon.
Something from Optimus 2x that totally captivated me is its IPS Nova display. The colors are vibrant, power consumption is great, despite whatever other people say, the contrast is incredible, which even led me into believing that it was a Super AMOLED screen for a short while.
I know the reputation of Sony making decent display screens, but the TFT LCD just simply does not sound that attractive.
For those of you who had seen an Optimus 2x/G2x before, how do you think these two fare against each other in terms of screen display?
tl;dr: Optimus 2x/G2x and Arc/Arc S, whose screen is better?
IMO SONY's screen is better than LG's when you look straight on the phone without tilting it, BUT you're gonna be extremely disappointed with viewing angles on the arc.
I second this. The display quality is very good when looking at it directly but tilt it a bit and the contrast drops to ridiculously low levels. It's like Sony did wonders with a really crappy TN screen. You might also be disappointed with washed out dark tones but it's average for an LCD here I'd say.
If you believe that this phone packs great screen you will be disappointed. It's not bad, but it's not great by any means.
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IMO SONY's screen is better than LG's when you look straight on the phone without tilting it, BUT you're gonna be extremely disappointed with viewing angles on the arc.
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Times after times, I still don't really get why people care that much about viewing angle. It's a mobile device and could hold it however we want. Doesn't sound like a problem for me.
Thanks for the reply anyway.
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I second this. The display quality is very good when looking at it directly but tilt it a bit and the contrast drops to ridiculously low levels. It's like Sony did wonders with a really crappy TN screen. You might also be disappointed with washed out dark tones but it's average for an LCD here I'd say.
If you believe that this phone packs great screen you will be disappointed. It's not bad, but it's not great by any means.
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I'm pretty sad to hear this, but thanks
I took a look at friend's LG Swift Black which is said to pack an IPS screen, better than 2X and I'd say the one on Xperia Arc is slightly better when looking at it directly. If you don't care about viewing angles I'd say it should be okay for you. It shouldn't bother you with anything other than the viewing angles. The colors are nice when looking at it directly.
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Could have been better if you can provide pictures.
they didnt let me do that there..i was at a local store..I'll try to pursue next time..But trust me ZL is more brighter..Can there be a mod to increase XZ brightness??..
Bcoz it looks dull in comparison! But i want the XZ only
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Was it a demo unit or a retail unit ? All demo units have the ****TY JDC panels. Retail models in most countries have the Sharp panel (same as the one on ZL)
I guess both were demo units..Coz there was some videos of each's advertisemnt going on once u leave them doing nothing..but cud be some screen saver too. but i could be wrong too! bcoz one guy bought the XZ and it looked same.
P.S. Also look here even pocketnow notices the screen difference..guess we will have to wait for gsmarena -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiv2XltFXY
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ZL uses Sharp screen only, whereas Z first batch has panel lottery and demo units get poor panels. So you can't compare that way. GSMArena got the second worst panel (JDC) so obviously ZL review they will rate the display better but it's pointless as they didn't review Z with sharp panel.
Z with sharp panel will be same as ZL.
So how do i know which is the sharp panel? anyway of knowing from the box? bcoz they will open it only if i buy it!
XZ brightness is fine, whatever you and the others say is exaggerations!
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Xperia z has infrared option...?
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I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
Did you tried to uncheck AutoBrightness, and set the brightness level at maximum level? Doing so i found XZ to be very bright. In fact too bright for normal usage. Sony should tweak AutoBrightness in the next update. Also should discard gray theme. Replace it with black. Bad mistake that gray.
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
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Brightness on the ZL is set to the lowest but color wise is still more vibrant than the Z
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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i leave mine @ 40% with autobrigthness "on". works well for me even under the desert sun... at noon.
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
Use calibration software ported from zl.
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JDC is actually the superior panel.
Please see the thread on panel identification. Someone posted comparison pics.
Sharp Panel is inferior and abysmal.
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
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I agree. Compared my Zl screen with three XZ screens at two different sony stores & found that ZL screen indeed has better viewing angles & colour vibrance than those on XZs. I tested same wallpaper using album app at full brightness & bravia engine enabled (adapt to light checked) in all the units. Sorry that i can't provide any photos of the same.
Hi everyone
I know that there are several topics that reviewed the device but I thought this might be useful when comparing the Z1 vs SGS4, if not please let me know and I will delete it
I just received my Xperia Z1 couple of hours ago (from EE through P4U white one) I have been playing with it and tested most things (apart from the camera)
first I was worried from the review saying the screen is bad or the battery life is poor but the phone I am holding is impressive over all
I compared it against the Xperia S and iPhone 4s and I came to quick conclusion which is if you owned any of the two and liked it you will definitely like the Z1 it is better than the two in every single aspect that you would think of (assuming you don't mind the size).
now the comparison between the Z1 and SGS4
first the phone is heavier, however, I think this is an advantage as the phone feels premium (it doesn't feel heavy to an extent that worries you that it might hurt your hand)
by looking at the devise it feels so big but comparing it with SGS4 (side by side) it is not that big. Keep in mind that this still different from one person to the other, but the size doesn't bother me.
Now with the screen
I was really worried to get poor screen, so I though I would start with it. I put both phones side by side, turned off auto brightness put them at max brightness and the surprise is the Z1 is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than my SGS4. I then opened google search to compare the white and surprisingly, the Z1 is ALOT whiter you can easily say which is better. then searched in google images for various things and compared the images on both phones and ALWAYS the Z1 is better than the SGS4. Now I am happy.
lets move to the battery
I have played with the phone for 1 full hour, the screen was on, wifi on opened couple of websites used the camera a lettle, downloaded apps used various apps and the battery went down by ~10% which is really impressive. This means the phone would last around 10 hours of continues use (this really depends on what you are doing as different things consume different amount of the battery) but then keep in mind that the device is new and the battery tends to get better with time. now I am even happier.
now these things what worried me the most but I am perfectly happy with the phone and would recommend it to anyone. if anyone has any question please let me know and I will try to answer it for you. I will be out in a while and will be back in few hours and will try to answer questions by then.
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Hi everyone
I know that there are several topics that reviewed the device but I thought this might be useful when comparing the Z1 vs SGS4, if not please let me know and I will delete it
I just received my Xperia Z1 couple of hours ago (from EE through P4U white one) I have been playing with it and tested most things (apart from the camera)
first I was worried from the review saying the screen is bad or the battery life is poor but the phone I am holding is impressive over all
I compared it against the Xperia S and iPhone 4s and I came to quick conclusion which is if you owned any of the two and liked it you will definitely like the Z1 it is better than the two in every single aspect that you would think of (assuming you don't mind the size).
now the comparison between the Z1 and SGS4
first the phone is heavier, however, I think this is an advantage as the phone feels premium (it doesn't feel heavy to an extent that worries you that it might hurt your hand)
by looking at the devise it feels so big but comparing it with SGS4 (side by side) it is not that big. Keep in mind that this still different from one person to the other, but the size doesn't bother me.
Now with the screen
I was really worried to get poor screen, so I though I would start with it. I put both phones side by side, turned off auto brightness put them at max brightness and the surprise is the Z1 is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than my SGS4. I then opened google search to compare the white and surprisingly, the Z1 is ALOT whiter you can easily say which is better. then searched in google images for various things and compared the images on both phones and ALWAYS the Z1 is better than the SGS4. Now I am happy.
lets move to the battery
I have played with the phone for 1 full hour, the screen was on, wifi on opened couple of websites used the camera a lettle, downloaded apps used various apps and the battery went down by ~10% which is really impressive. This means the phone would last around 10 hours of continues use (this really depends on what you are doing as different things consume different amount of the battery) but then keep in mind that the device is new and the battery tends to get better with time. now I am even happier.
now these things what worried me the most but I am perfectly happy with the phone and would recommend it to anyone. if anyone has any question please let me know and I will try to answer it for you. I will be out in a while and will be back in few hours and will try to answer questions by then.
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open a black image... turn of the lights and see it in dark... how deep black is the black... and does normal viewing angle effect the blackness.. i do not want to know unpractical viewing angle...
Thanks for info,
for camera shootout between my Z1 and 5S, http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/ also daily blog review of Z1 ongoing, so check out earlier posts.
jos_031 said:
open a black image... turn of the lights and see it in dark... how deep black is the black... and does normal viewing angle effect the blackness.. i do not want to know unpractical viewing angle...
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when lights off, you would see black as grey this is back lit screen where all pixels lights even black ones unlike SGS4 AMOLED where each pixel is lit on its own.
but then you won't watch a completely black screen. when you look at screen with different colors (images, videos ...etc) you won't notice the grayish black and when lights are on, the black is deep to a level similar to the SGS4 (you won't notice any difference)
viewing angle is very good ( the colors fade a bit when you look at almost flat device). In other words it stays perfect all the way until it is almost flat where the colors fade a bit which wouldn't be very noticeable and no one would even look at a device from that angle. normal angle where few people looking at the phone won't cause any issue and the image will be crystal clear.
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Thanks for info,
for camera shootout between my Z1 and 5S, http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/ also daily blog review of Z1 ongoing, so check out earlier posts.
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Thanks for the source. I wounder why people doing camera comparison do not include reference image (from pro cameras) because the first two images in this source, the color is slightly different between the Z1 and 5s and we can't really tell which shows the real color. Apart from that the Z1 looks brighter, sharper and with more noise while the 5s is more blurry and seems to have pink tint that I had in my previous Xperia S. So the Z1 images are not prefect but hopefully an update can improve it. Still need to test mine when I get back.
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Thanks for the source. I wounder why people doing camera comparison do not include reference image (from pro cameras) because the first two images in this source, the color is slightly different between the Z1 and 5s and we can't really tell which shows the real color. Apart from that the Z1 looks brighter, sharper and with more noise while the 5s is more blurry and seems to have pink tint that I had in my previous Xperia S. So the Z1 images are not prefect but hopefully an update can improve it. Still need to test mine when I get back.
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They are my photos and from my blog
So what you are saying is to take the same shots with all the phones and use a DSLR for comparison? I will say the 5S overall has more natural colours, the Z1 does sometimes blur on edges, but otherwise its a tricky one. Also Z1 will get updates from Sony to fix a number of its bugs and tweak the camera which is exciting really.
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They are my photos and from my blog
So what you are saying is to take the same shots with all the phones and use a DSLR for comparison? I will say the 5S overall has more natural colours, the Z1 does sometimes blur on edges, but otherwise its a tricky one. Also Z1 will get updates from Sony to fix a number of its bugs and tweak the camera which is exciting really.
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yup that what I meant, but you were there thats fair enough. I think sony are trying to make there images brighter in order to get better picture in low light situation, so you get brighter images but then this sometimes affect the colors. Anyway, I tested my Z1 camera (didn't compare it to SGS4), the images are good but as everyone said before, the Z1 can do alot better. Comparing the hardware between the Z1 SGS4 and iPhone 5s, the Z1 is ALOT better (bigger sensor and G-lens) however, sony were always weak in the software department but we hope (as everyone said before) that future updates make the camera performs alot better than this.
How many generations does it take to build the perfect smartphone? In this video I will show you all differences between Sony Xperia Z vs. Sony Xperia Z1 and Sony Xperia Z2. What exactly has changed between models and is it worth upgrading?
Nice comparison. I'll be able to choose a new device from August, so I'll probably wait for the z3 by then
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Great review!
Btw. is it just my eyes or is it so that the Z1 has the brightest/contrasty Screen out of the three?
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Great review!
Btw. is it just my eyes or is it so that the Z1 has the brightest/contrasty Screen out of the three?
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For some reason the wallpaper is lighter on Z1. When you look at the video playback on all three they are almost identical. I have been looked closely at all three and the brightness is almost the same. The viewing angles on the Z2 are far superior though.
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almost all camera gadgets are available in market, i have latest timeshift, AR effect(this with sounds), motiongraph and this cool blurred background mode, when you shoot two images and play with background, its a bit buggy but work
I really don't like the lack of soft-touch edge on the Z1/2 like on the Z. I understand the metal frame makes it more durable and more premium, but after holding the Z, the Z1 and up feel incredibly slippery in the hand as a result.
I generally like the design of the Z better than that of its sucessors.
The soft-touch was great, aluminum is generally a bad idea when there are antennas nearby and it really destroys the look iam loving the Z for right now.
The plain black monolitic all-around, with the frame that is like pebble-blueish when looked at in the sunlight.
Just great imo.
For me the Z1/Z2 are a step back regarding the sleek elegant design that was inherent to the Z, except for a few changes.
The flap-less headphone jack is really the only thing that i really found to be annoying about the Z, and the 3200mah is also a great step forward.
Other than that there isnt really much beside hardware-specs that was improved in my opinion.
Still missing such a feature like IR, maybe with the Z3?
Display was always kinda okayish when looking straight at it, and due to the bad viewing angles i dont need any kind of "privacy-filter" foil or similiar
Things that should get improved is the Picture-Quality in dark conditions and in macro-mode i hate that blur-filter that seems to destroy any little detail i was used to see on a lot older devices.
There have been Sony-Ericcson's Cybershot phones that are now pretty much "historical" that took more natural or even in general better looking images.
Its also sad for me to know that my five year old phone takes better macro-shots
Anyways, we'll see.
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my xz is the best
It is like in the automobile sector. The first facelift is the best balance between price and features. All the bugs from the protoype version are solved. The features are not to overwhelming and the price is ok.
Z - Feels like a prototype phone. Has many things done good but also has many thing that just feel low quality...
Z1 - Feels like hell-a-lot of an improvement - better screen, and build quality. Still not perfect with those bezels and not as great viewing angles.
Z2 - *Z design brang to perfection* Great screen with good bezels and viewing angles.
I went to store with intent to buy Z2, the display model was abhorrent, the screen was misaligned, there were huge gaps around the screen and middle frame and if that wasnt bad enough the screen was flickering away. As a Z1 owner I couldnt help notice also that the entire look and feel was less premium than Z1. Im sticking with Z1 very disappointed as I was looking forward to 4K vid and display improvements.
The sharper corners. On the Z2, the corners are more rounded like iPhone/Samsung style. The sharper corners on the Z1 really make the device stand out. This is why I'll be sticking with my white Z1.
I applied made in Japan screen protectors on both front and back straight out of the box so I am not affected by the easy scratching/fingerprints of the anti-shatter sheet by the way ruining the looks of the Z1.
the thiing u just said was all about the appearance but what about under the hood ?!
1GB more RAM , Snapdragon801,4K video recording,120F video shooting,stereo sound,IPS LCD with better colors and viewing angles and so on!
arent these differences enough for switching from z1 to z2?!
NiM72NiK said:
the thiing u just said was all about the appearance but what about under the hood ?!
1GB more RAM , Snapdragon801,4K video recording,120F video shooting,stereo sound,IPS LCD with better colors and viewing angles and so on!
arent these differences enough for switching from z1 to z2?!
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nope. at least not for me.
For me the size & the port covers alone are enough to turn me off the Xperia Z2. It's already in the phablet category with that enormous size. Plus the flaps are different now. You'll need to open only a single long flap in order to access the whole ports. Which means you would be uncovering the flaps more than ever hence it would be more prone to wear and tear and it's also annoying to use while the phone is connected to a USB port.
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The sharper corners. On the Z2, the corners are more rounded like iPhone/Samsung style. The sharper corners on the Z1 really make the device stand out. This is why I'll be sticking with my white Z1.
I applied made in Japan screen protectors on both front and back straight out of the box so I am not affected by the easy scratching/fingerprints of the anti-shatter sheet by the way ruining the looks of the Z1.
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nope. at least not for me.
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by the way i'm not going to buy z2 actually because i bought my z1 lately and i'm waiting for z3.but these things will make a z1 owner to buy a z2
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For me the size & the port covers alone are enough to turn me off the Xperia Z2. It's already in the phablet category with that enormous size. Plus the flaps are different now. You'll need to open only a single long flap in order to access the whole ports. Which means you would be uncovering the flaps more than ever hence it would be more prone to wear and tear and it's also annoying to use while the phone is connected to a USB port.
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+1. the long single flaps is a design flaw... most people hardly change the sim card and it's sharing the flaps with the usb port? wonder what is sony's engineers thinking...
also, i some how got a feeling that the aluminum frame is different from z1... not sure why but the feeling is just different when holding z1 and z2... z1 felt a little more solid in hand.
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+1. the long single flaps is a design flaw... most people hardly change the sim card and it's sharing the flaps with the usb port? wonder what is sony's engineers thinking...
also, i some how got a feeling that the aluminum frame is different from z1... not sure why but the feeling is just different when holding z1 and z2... z1 felt a little more solid in hand.
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long flap is definitely a flaw but i rarely use the usb port anyways. phone charges on the magnetic dock and for file transfers i do it wirelessly or the SD card (smaller flap).
the Z1 is heavier maybe that's why we feel the Z1 more solid. The only complaint I have on the Z2 is the cheap mat paint all around the phone, i can see them wearing off quickly unlike the Z1 which i used naked for half year without any paint wear even if lightly dropped few times!
anyhow, pretty happy having upgraded to the Z2. I do find that the Z2 looks better than the Z1. smaller bezel, cool speaker grills, huge improvement in color reproduction. But what's really the selling point of the Z2 is what's under the hood as frankly who will be able to tell right away if you have a Z1 or Z2 since they look so similar.. lol.
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long flap is definitely a flaw but i rarely use the usb port anyways. phone charges on the magnetic dock and for file transfers i do it wirelessly or the SD card (smaller flap).
the Z1 is heavier maybe that's why we feel the Z1 more solid. The only complaint I have on the Z2 is the cheap mat paint all around the phone, i can see them wearing off quickly unlike the Z1 which i used naked for half year without any paint wear even if lightly dropped few times!
anyhow, pretty happy having upgraded to the Z2. I do find that the Z2 looks better than the Z1. smaller bezel, cool speaker grills, huge improvement in color reproduction. But what's really the selling point of the Z2 is what's under the hood as frankly who will be able to tell right away if you have a Z1 or Z2 since they look so similar.. lol.
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Both Z1 & Z2 have similar build quality! Both look stellar but Z2 has much better feel in hand (as it's lighter slimmer & narrower) IMO. Paint quality is similar too, which is anodised over the aluminium frame (on both). I see no easy scratching or paint wearing with normal use on either of the two. I've dropped my Z1 a couple of times on hard floor with no damage but only a few scuffs around corners! Single long flap on left side of Z2 is odd, no doubt, but it is actually easier to pull out compared to those tiny dual flaps on Z1. But besides the screen, speakers, ram & chipset one important aspect in which the Z2 is quite ahead of Z1 is the battery backup. For me the Z2 easily lasts for 2.5 days with 7.5 hrs of SOT with normal usage vs 1.5 days with 5.5 hrs of SOT on the Z1 with similar usage.
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Both Z1 & Z2 have similar build quality! Both look stellar but Z2 has much better feel in hand (as it's lighter slimmer & narrower) IMO. Paint quality is similar too, which is anodised over the aluminium frame (on both). I see no easy scratching or paint wearing with normal use on either of the two. I've dropped my Z1 a couple of times on hard floor with no damage but only a few scuffs around corners! Single long flap on left side of Z2 is odd, no doubt, but it is actually easier to pull out compared to those tiny dual flaps on Z1. But besides the screen, speakers, ram & chipset one important aspect in which the Z2 is quite ahead of Z1 is the battery backup. For me the Z2 easily lasts for 2.5 days with 7.5 hrs of SOT with normal usage vs 1.5 days with 5.5 hrs of SOT on the Z1 with similar usage.
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Yes another think i forgot to mention was the battery life. it indeed lasts longer than the Z1 under same usage.
I don't know about the paint but for me when i went to purchase the Z2, from a brand new sealed box there were spots with paint chipping around the phone at the line where the paint meets the mat finish. I asked for another unit as i find it unacceptable. Opened a second box and samething but less chipping. Ended up taking the second unit as most probably a 3rd box will be the same. This wasn't happening when i purchased the Z1 so my assumption of the cheap QC or paint quality on the Z2
For Me the looks of Z1 with internals of Z2.
i like the z1 more than z2 too and in synthetic benchmark like antutu z1 have an average score about 31k, z2 29k... and the biggest difference (in my opinion) are the 3gb ram and the ips screen ...the snapdragon 801 (msm8974ab) is just an oc´ed version of the snapdragon800(msm8974vv)
i´m going to buy z3 but i hate the rounded cornors from z2 so i stay on my z1 ..
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The sharper corners. On the Z2, the corners are more rounded like iPhone/Samsung style. The sharper corners on the Z1 really make the device stand out. This is why I'll be sticking with my white Z1.
I applied made in Japan screen protectors on both front and back straight out of the box so I am not affected by the easy scratching/fingerprints of the anti-shatter sheet by the way ruining the looks of the Z1.
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Even i felt the same when i held the phone in my hand. The aluminium frame on Z2 feels less sturdy than the one on Z1. And for things under the hood, Z1 is no less capable than Z2. They are almost in same league. It is only the software part making the difference. And as far as screen is concerned, yes it has far better screen than the Z1(not to forget the elimination of ASF on Z2).
The sharper corners do look better imho
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i like the z1 more than z2 too and in synthetic benchmark like antutu z1 have an average score about 31k, z2 29k... and the biggest difference (in my opinion) are the 3gb ram and the ips screen ...the snapdragon 801 (msm8974ab) is just an oc´ed version of the snapdragon800(msm8974vv)
i´m going to buy z3 but i hate the rounded cornors from z2 so i stay on my z1 ..
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Although this is a bit off topic but I had to say this. Benchmarks have very little significance today especially when it comes to smartphones, as most manufacturers (like Samsung / htc etc.) have cheats (built into the rom itself) to boost the scores. Moreover, these benchmarks are neither consistent themselves nor reliable to assess the real life performance of the device. But anyway, since you brought that up, IMO the Z2 still surpasses Z1 most of the times. I did this antutu test on my non rooted (all stock) Z2 only to post here (as I don't really care about such scores) and it scored 35k. See the screenshot below.
I personally like the size and style of the Z1. Being 5" in size is perfect for the shelf under the stereo in my car as well as not a problem for my jeans pocket. When you get down to it, unless they invent some sort of flip/double screen phone, bigger isn't better. Nor is the hardware any kind of huge improvement.
My Antutu results are for my Xperia Z1 running DoomLord v21 kernel and RomAur v8.0 that is unlocked and rooted. As you can see its only just under the 35k score for a Z2 running stock rom. But ... specs aren't everything. I just like to have my phone the way I want
I like the Z1 design more than the Z2. I agree that it's iPhone style. I don't usually open the flaps of the phone as I transfer files with Software Data Cable via WiFi and I charge my phone on the docking station.
Simple!
Z2 is a far better looking phone, plus with them nice dual speakers it's a no brainer. Z1 isn't an ugly phone but it's in no way shape or form a better looking device than the Z2, you should have went to specsavers mate.
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dladz said:
Z2 is a far better looking phone, plus with them nice dual speakers it's a no brainer. Z1 isn't an ugly phone but it's in no way shape or form a better looking device than the Z2, you should have went to specsavers mate.
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theres no need for specsavers, you get what you pay for and imo there is not much diffrance in the two devices, wow the spekers come on, look on gsm, for the SPECS, but i like my z1 and i think it better than the z2 ,performance is of the chart benchmarks that i reach are 36000 plus all stock no tweaks,oh and the z2 is slighty lighter ha ha and alot more expensive,i have just done a benchmark test and my score is 36517, antutu benchmark,
joecool666 said:
theres no need for specsavers, you get what you pay for and imo there is not much diffrance in the two devices, wow the spekers come on, look on gsm, for the SPECS, but i like my z1 and i think it better than the z2 ,performance is of the chart benchmarks that i reach are 36000 plus all stock no tweaks,oh and the z2 is slighty lighter ha ha and alot more expensive,i have just done a benchmark test and my score is 36517, antutu benchmark,
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Not more expensive in carphone warehouse, they're both 33 on contract and sim free price is the same! The dual speakers do make quite a difference, you don't have to cup the solitary speaker like you do on the Z2, everything just feels more refined on the Z2 than it does on the Z1.
Not the biggest leap forward but it's certainly an upgrade.
As for benchmarks, they're not everything but when theres some decent development for the Z2 I'm guessing it'll outperform the Z1 quite easily. The 801 is still an OC'd 800 but it should make the difference.