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A interview of the engineers behind the xperia zu posted on sony's blog..
What experience does “X-Reality for mobile” offer?
Kosaka: ”X-Reality for mobile” incorporates the knowhow of the super resolution technology “X-Reality,” in Sony’s BRAVIA TVs, into mobile devices.
X-Reality™ for mobile analyzes each image and reproduces lacking pixels to optimize quality for the sharpest videos. It analyzes elements depending on the scene and adjusts them based on pattern, outline and colour composition. It strengthens subtle patterns and accurately portrays their detailed feel, as well as reinforces bold outlines. It also enhances colour composition, vividly reproducing hard-to-display natural colours
You mean “X-Reality for mobile” can recreate the data that was once there?
Kosaka: ”X-Reality for mobile” is based on the “X-Reality,” incorporated into Sony’s BRAVIA TVs. However, it is unrealistic to use the exact same video processing chip found LCD TVs in a smartphone for various reasons such as power consumption. The distance that users view smartphones at also differs significantly from LCD TVs. This is why we developed and incorporated a super resolution processing technology, unique to Sony, that is ideal for smartphones including our new Xperia Z Ultra.
The super resolution processing of “X-Reality for mobile” analyzes videos one frame at a time, estimating and complementing any lost information. At the same time, it combines suitable video processes for each frame and applies them. Such video process patterns are stored in a database, and the most suitable pattern is selected for each various scene from the database and applied, thereby reproducing video quality infinitely closer to the original.
The super resolution technology, which estimates any lost information from videos and restores it by combining various processes, can be said to be a fruit of Sony’s video technologies. Each and every one of the process patterns stored in the database has been created by an internal development team in Sony, operating on high-performance workstations. By storing complex super resolution processing in a database, “X-Reality for mobile” enables you to enjoy high-quality video reproduction real-time that would otherwise take a few days.
With the adoption of the high-performance Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 quad-core processor for its CPU and graphic chip, Xperia Z Ultra has made it possible to perform super resolution processing that had been difficult to do thus far.
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This is where xda chips in
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This is where xda chips in
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I hope they do it...but if it is really dependent on the snpdrgn 800 then i dont even they will be able to do it
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if sony wants the z to have it the z will have it
its all a question if sony wants
That's true - if sony wants to, they will give it. But there are some facts to be said - the Xperia ZU that is now launching hasn't got the X-reality onboard but will get it with an software update. So for this part is seems that the X-reality is software dependent. Which is a plus in considering that Xperia Z might get it as an software update as well.
Secondly, with the Honami leak of apps I tried a mod with X-reality on my Xperia Z - and you could really see that it worked cuz if you quickly zoomed in on a photo you saw the image getting sharper one area at a time. So as far as I'm conserned - S4 pro chip has no trouble handling X-reality. And I didn't notice any more battery drain than otherwise..
So yes, in my view it's only really a question of if sony wants to give it to Xperia Z.
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That's true - if sony wants it, they will give it. But there are some facts to be said - the Xperia ZU that is now launching hasn't got the X-reality anboard but will get it with an software update. So for this part is seems that the X-reality is software dependent. Which is a plus in considering that Xperia Z might get it as an software update.
Secondly, with the Honami leak of apps I tried a mod with X-reality on my Xperia Z - and you could really see that it worked cuz if you quickly zoomed in on a photo you saw the image getting sharper one area at a time. So as far as I'm conserned - S4 pro chip has no trouble handling X-reality. And I didn't notice any more battery drain than otherwise..
So yes, in my view it's only really a question of if sony wants to give it to Xperia Z.
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i agree that it worked but it only worked in images it didnt work at all in videos..theres some super resolution technology used by x-reality for videos which improves the quality besides the normal color sharpness etc stuff
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i agree that it worked but it only worked in images it didnt work at all in videos..theres some super resolution technology used by x-reality for videos which improves the quality besides the normal color sharpness etc stuff
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Can you really say that you can see superresolution in videos? I don't think so. But from what I can tell, video looked super awesome with X-reality for me. I saw difference between on/off X-reality. Was it just BME2 behind or was it super resoultion? I don't think that anyone can tell that just by viewing a video because it's not the same as in pictures to see it happening before you.
If I was a Sony executive of anykind, I'd vote for to give Xperia Z/ZL/ZR X-reality even if had to be limited in it's functions just to keep the software among 2013 devices equal (and to stop the hype in media/XDA )
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Can you really say that you can see superresolution in videos? I don't think so. But from what I can tell, video looked super awesome with X-reality for me. I saw difference between on/off X-reality. Was it just BME2 behind or was it super resoultion? I don't think that anyone can tell that just by viewing a video because it's not the same as in pictures to see it happening before you.
If I was a Sony executive of anykind, I'd vote for to give Xperia Z/ZL/ZR X-reality even if had to be limited in it's functions just to keep the software among 2013 devices equal (and to stop the hype in media/XDA )
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lol...u saw difference in videos with x-reality on...stop faking..even the developers who made the x-reality mod agree that its not working on videos then how could u see the differrence?
...perform super resolution processing that had been difficult
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This is what i took out of the article , it clearly states its only "super resolution processing" and that cpus before werent capablepreviously, yeah sure the s800 is 30-40% more powerful, but that still leaves the fact that the s4 is still half capable of processing it, its just whether now they want to implement it in ONLY their new phone, so it looks like a new feature specific to that range is anybodies clue. but thats how i see it , interpretations may differ
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lol...u saw difference in videos with x-reality on...stop faking..even the developers who made the x-reality mod agree that its not working on videos then how could u see the differrence?
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Who's faking anything? Dont be a douchebag. Like I said - how can anyone tell if it's doing super resolution in a video or not? The difference that I mentioned previosly was to the overal video and I even said dont know if it was just BME or if it was X-reality.
Besides - 1080p in a 5inch display - who needs super-resolution? If you got a crappy video to watch it's still gonna look crappy.
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Who's faking anything? Dont be a douchebag.
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Ok then post some screenshots showing the difference with x-reality on and off
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Ok then post some screenshots showing the difference with x-reality on and off
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look i'm on stock now with the new firmware. If you want or need to pick on someone that's your problem.
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look i'm on stock now with the new firmware. If you want or need to pick on someone that's your problem.
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As your wish but i dont need to check anything as i too used the mod and theres was not a single effect on video it just worked on images in the album app..
Just noticed this:
http://store.sony.ca/xperia-z2-zid3...artphone?vva_ColorCode=000000&_t=pfm=category
It does not mention 4K video recording, and the box apparently does not include MDR-NC31EM headset.
I just wonder if they forgot to mention the 4K video recording, or if there is a change in the hardware.
To open that link from a mobile phone: http://m.store.sony.ca/en/products/31-Z2GENERIC~
Does seem to be mentioned under the features section though
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That's weird! 4K is one their biggest highlight for this phone, how is it not listed?!
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Just noticed this:
http://store.sony.ca/xperia-z2-zid3...artphone?vva_ColorCode=000000&_t=pfm=category
It does not mention 4K video recording, and the box apparently does not include MDR-NC31EM headset.
I just wonder if they forgot to mention the 4K video recording, or if there is a change in the hardware.
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http://www.sonymobile.com/ca-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/specifications/#tabs
here it clearly says 4K is there....get it from store do not buy online if you not sure and u will find 4K logo at back of retail box and noise cancelling at front...if they are not there sony might have removed them
Well, from what I see on this page (the link in the first message) at least, it seems to me that Sony has decided to retract their claim about the "coolness" of 4K video recording to some degree, and remove it from the front page so to speak. They do not want people to focus on 4K anymore because (let's face it!) the 4k video recording is more or less a 'problem' the way it is right now. You can use it only for a few minutes (usually around 5-6 minutes), and the phone gets hot as you are recording in 4k, and the camera stops after that. This whole thing does not sound like a cool advertisement aspect for Z2.
My suggestion to Sony: to make up for this, it is better to include the noise cancelling earbuds in the package; this way Z2 buyers would feel more like forgiving you for the video recording problems.
By the way, I personally do not consider this as a major flaw in Z2. The 4K technology is kind of new and it needs time to be perfectly functional in mobile phones for long periods of time. Nevertheless, this certainly is a problem for Sony because they first claimed something, and then (it seems to me that) they retracted their claim to some degree. This kind of behaviour makes customers unhappy; so to make them happy again, in my opinion Sony should go the extra mile and offer something more in terms of hardware (and not just software).
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Sony-Xperia-Z2
This is from a mobile company in Canada. 4k is available.
Sony store told me unlocked version of z2 won't be available until July, anyone preorder their phone?
He has a fair point, listed underneath the full spec... 1080p Video Recording...
The thing is that it seems to me that Canada Sony page has been designed in a way that it kind of "hides" the 4K video recording capability of the Xperia Z2 phone, which means Sony (or at least Sony Canada) is kind of ashamed of this capability of this phone!
You find nothing directly about 4K on this page; there is a small section about Features on the right side of this page after you scroll down the page, and there you find a list of features, and the third link says this: "Videos four times sharper than Full HD", and only when you click on this link, a very small window opens up in which it mentions 4K video. It is interesting that even in this small window, it says that you can "...relive that special moment..." which to my ears means that the 4K video is only good for a few moments!
[The Canadian laws for consumer protection are somehow different from other countries and one possibility for this weird behaviour of Sony Canada might be that it has something to do with a fear of being sued by customers.]
Whatever is the reason, the end result is that Sony does not want to talk about 4K anymore.
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Bell is a phone company in Canada and they are going to offer Z2 with a 2 years contract. Bell wants to sell the phones for its own financial gain and so Bell does not care if the camera has a problem or not as it is not going to be Bell's problem. That is why Bell mentions 4K video recording as the very first feature of Z2 on the very top of its web page about Z2 whereas Sony Canada (which offers the unlocked version of the phone) hides this feature on the first page of its web page about Z2 and only when you click on a link (among many other links) it says something about moments of 4K recording.
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The "official" video recording specification of Z2, according to Sony Canada, is "1080 p" which you can find at the bottom of the Sony Canada page. This means that either Sony lied when they advertised the phone as a 4K video recording device, or if we want to be overly optimistic, they did a terrible mistake by introducing Z2 as a 4K video recording device.
By the way, it is not our duty as the customers of Sony products to put our detective hats on and inspect every single link in a product's webpage to find a hidden window which mentions a watered down version of a feature that once was considered as the very first and the very best feature of Z2.
I can CONFIRM that the Bell Z2 is NOT BOOTLOADER UNLOCKABLE (it is locked down by Bell, which i never understood why since SONY LETS YOU DO IT!), and also the phone DOES NOT come with the nice MDR noise cancelling headphones (only some ****ty old school looking earbuds, not even the in ear kind).
"Sony Xperia Z2 won't let you record more than ~5 minutes of 4K video (and neither will Note 3 and S5)"
4K video recording is slowly but surely clawing its way into the mobile scene, and although its adoption is quite limited thus far, some manufacturers who are feeling more adventurous than others are starting to build the feature into some of their premium smartphones. Some of the first models offering 4K video recording are Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 and S5, as well as Sony's Xperia Z2, which recently got released on the market to become what's considered one of the finest handsets money can buy right now (probably until the LG G3 shows up, that is).
However, it turns out that these phones, even though they are officially capable of recording 4K video, cannot deliver an experience we'd consider truly adequate. Why? The answer is simple: they cannot record more than 5 minutes of footage in 4K resolution.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...-video-and-neither-will-Note-3-and-S5_id56633
Mine will. I just tried recording 4K twice and stopped it at 10 minutes myself. No excessive heating, no camera force close. The phone gradually got warmer in the area around the camera module, but the temperature rise ceased at around 5 minutes and the temperature remained steady after that.
The new .402 update seems to make a big difference on my device - 4K recording is now lasting around 10mins from cold before it closes down.
The difference however is that it now states that it needs to cool the camera down and will save the video.
I flashed the German unbranded to my UK unbranded phone last night.
Peav said:
The new .402 update seems to make a big difference on my device - 4K recording is now lasting around 10mins from cold before it closes down.
The difference however is that it now states that it needs to cool the camera down and will save the video.
I flashed the German unbranded to my UK unbranded phone last night.
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Same here. I also was able to record the same on Note 3.
How big is a 10" video ? 9 GB ?
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How big is a 10" video ? 9 GB ?
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3.9 GB (tested by me).
It will be hard to have longer than 10 minute video because of limited capacity od FAT format, which is 4gb. It's just a theory about the videos on this device. Haven't tried formatting card to NTFS or something.
If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me
Peav said:
The new .402 update seems to make a big difference on my device - 4K recording is now lasting around 10mins from cold before it closes down.
The difference however is that it now states that it needs to cool the camera down and will save the video.
I flashed the German unbranded to my UK unbranded phone last night.
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Mine the same now with the update, only got about 4mins before lasted 10mins now and said the above needs to close to cool camera down.
higgs_ said:
"Sony Xperia Z2 won't let you record more than ~5 minutes of 4K video (and neither will Note 3 and S5)"
4K video recording is slowly but surely clawing its way into the mobile scene, and although its adoption is quite limited thus far, some manufacturers who are feeling more adventurous than others are starting to build the feature into some of their premium smartphones. Some of the first models offering 4K video recording are Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 and S5, as well as Sony's Xperia Z2, which recently got released on the market to become what's considered one of the finest handsets money can buy right now (probably until the LG G3 shows up, that is).
However, it turns out that these phones, even though they are officially capable of recording 4K video, cannot deliver an experience we'd consider truly adequate. Why? The answer is simple: they cannot record more than 5 minutes of footage in 4K resolution.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...-video-and-neither-will-Note-3-and-S5_id56633
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Half true, the Note 3 and S5 are limited to 5 mins by Samsung, the Z2 has no limitation introduced purposfully by Sony, the limitation on the Z2 is the fact that it gets very hot eventually overheating due to the demands on the processor and memory. If your phone wouldn't overheat the Z2 can record until you run out of storage. The article is rather missleading saying how it's overheating right at the end of the article.
Bear it in mind that the time the Z2 can record 4k is highly dependant on the the indevidual phone (some people have seen 15 mins+ whilst others 5 mins, ambient temperature and how hot the phone was before recording 4k.
I have personally recorded 10 mins at 4k, yes the phone's exterior got very hot, but no overheating message.
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Half true, the Note 3 and S5 are limited to 5 mins by Samsung, the Z2 has no limitation introduced purposfully by Sony, the limitation on the Z2 is the fact that it gets very hot eventually overheating due to the demands on the processor and memory. If your phone wouldn't overheat the Z2 can record until you run out of storage. The article is rather missleading saying how it's overheating right at the end of the article.
Bear it in mind that the time the Z2 can record 4k is highly dependant on the the indevidual phone (some people have seen 15 mins+ whilst others 5 mins, ambient temperature and how hot the phone was before recording 4k.
I have personally recorded 10 mins at 4k, yes the phone's exterior got very hot, but no overheating message.
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You were able to record 10 mins after the update, right ?
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You were able to record 10 mins after the update, right ?
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As I bought it, I haven't updated yet. It was only once though.
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Originally, I was only able to record about 5 minutes. After the .402 update, I was able to reach 7 minutes before I stopped it myself. However, after I stopped the recording myself, it gave me the overheating message lol.
I don't know if it was just my imagination but it felt as if my phone did not heat up as fast compared to before the update when it got hot in 3 minutes or so. I honestly don't think the update did much for 4k video recording and that I was just able to get to 7+ minutes of 4k recording due to the cooler ambient temperature. Either way, I'm able to consistently reach 5 minutes of 4k recording before and after the update so I'm quite satisfied.
So it sounds like we all agree that the 402 update did help this problem, yes?
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Is it only me who thinks that all the videos online show the Z5 premium 4K screen at 1080p resolution ? For such a high pixel density the icons and menu should be much smaller and app list in the menu should be more than 4x5 .
I found a video showing the Z5 Premium running at a different resolution but much slower. I must admit I don't understand spanish but anyone can watch the end where things get really laggy ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYn76ywh4tg
Old software running at 300 dpi. Will not be present in the finalized product
Have to admit that when I hear 4K I expect the resolution to be similar to the one in the video. It makes a huge difference and looks much better.
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Old software running at 300 dpi. Will not be present in the finalized product
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You look like expert of Sony and you have many xperia mobiles . I had one in the past, the Ultra T2 and although I liked everything about it that time, but sold it after 1 week becuse the low call voice in the loud speakers, althoigh the music was fine . I found out on the net, that may eb all Sony experia has this issue, may be thier standard.
Can you tell me if all the xperia you used has the same low call voice. I am thinking of buying C4 or may be the z5 , but I am afraid to have the same issue.
Thanks
Premium will not use 4k all the time, only when needed.
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You look like expert of Sony and you have many xperia mobiles . I had one in the past, the Ultra T2 and although I liked everything about it that time, but sold it after 1 week becuse the low call voice in the loud speakers, althoigh the music was fine . I found out on the net, that may eb all Sony experia has this issue, may be thier standard.
Can you tell me if all the xperia you used has the same low call voice. I am thinking of buying C4 or may be the z5 , but I am afraid to have the same issue.
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Hi, I only have used flagship devices from Sony and all have excellent call voice quality. If you have the cash fro the Z5 definitely go for the Z5.
mele80 said:
Premium will not use 4k all the time, only when needed.
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That means it will use 4K 1% of the time... Seriously I hope this is some kind of joke from Sony... When I hear 4K I expect browsing and reading at 4K.
Also more room for more icons on the home screen.... IMO it makes a lot more sense to downscale games etc.. to HD and keep the resolution at 4K
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/of-course-the-z5-premium-doesnt-run-in-4k-all-the-time-r1515/
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http://www.modaco.com/news/android/of-course-the-z5-premium-doesnt-run-in-4k-all-the-time-r1515/
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I'll wait for the official release. If that's really the case I'll go for a Z5. There is no point in paying $200 more for something I won't be using.
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I'll wait for the official release. If that's really the case I'll go for a Z5. There is no point in paying $200 more for something I won't be using.
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You get a larger battery and screen though
It's exactly like macbook pro retinas... you still have the desktop space of the standard resolution, yet much crispier
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-explains-xperia-z5-premium-4k-642067/
“Xperia Z5 Premium features a 4K display with a resolution of 3840×2160 pixels based on SID Standard and enables all video and image content to be enjoyed in 4K resolution. All other content is displayed at 1080P or lower resolution in order to optimise the performance and battery stamina for this device, ensuring you can enjoy the 4K resolution when you need it most.“
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Almost no point of the Z5 Premium in that case, as my old laptop certainly isn't going to render it, nor is my 2010 spec plasma
Once you root it and have xposed installed I'm sure you can set a per app DPI. I can't use a phone if it doesn't have root (won't connect to headunit) and exposed makes everything so much better.
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That means it will use 4K 1% of the time... Seriously I hope this is some kind of joke from Sony... When I hear 4K I expect browsing and reading at 4K.
Also more room for more icons on the home screen.... IMO it makes a lot more sense to downscale games etc.. to HD and keep the resolution at 4K
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Even if that's the case, you are never going to browse and read at more than 480p. I've seen almost none apps for "simple" things going higher than 480p... Neither Chrome for browsing, nor Play Books for reading...for example!
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I Like it
it s smart management for speed & power
I don need 4K rendering when watching HD clips So It s better that phone switch to FHD/HD rendering
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That means it will use 4K 1% of the time... Seriously I hope this is some kind of joke from Sony... When I hear 4K I expect browsing and reading at 4K.
Also more room for more icons on the home screen.... IMO it makes a lot more sense to downscale games etc.. to HD and keep the resolution at 4K
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Lol u want to browse and read in 4K, but anything above 1080p is nearly undetectable for humans eye
4K will become standardised very soon, as VR goggles are getting more and more popular.
Now, on 1080p, when using VR goggles, the screen does get separated into two images. Thus screen resolution you see thru the glasses be like 400x800 or so..
Imagine, when using 4K... VR goggles will still display 2K.. Which is more pixels than our 1080p res.
Take a magnifier and look at a 1080p screen, count the pixels and multiply that by 2. That's the resolution you'll see thru VR goggles when using a 4k display, and that's exactly what it's designed and meant for.
Sooner or later, Sony will come up with their very own VR goggles like Samsung with VR gear.
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Lol u want to browse and read in 4K, but anything above 1080p is nearly undetectable for humans eye
4K will become standardised very soon, as VR goggles are getting more and more popular.
Now, on 1080p, when using VR goggles, the screen does get separated into two images. Thus screen resolution you see thru the glasses be like 400x800 or so..
Imagine, when using 4K... VR goggles will still display 2K.. Which is more pixels than our 1080p res.
Take a magnifier and look at a 1080p screen, count the pixels and multiply that by 2. That's the resolution you'll see thru VR goggles when using a 4k display, and that's exactly what it's designed and meant for.
Sooner or later, Sony will come up with their very own VR goggles like Samsung with VR gear.
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I dont really understand what's with the "undetectable thing " people keep repeating.
If you browse at 4K, text is much smaller and the content displayed is much more than 1080p . I don't have to scroll 2 pages to see everything where I can see it in only one @4K.
When you buy bigger PC screen you get more space on your desktop ( icons / files etc.. ) because resolution gets higher not because the screen gets bigger.
Whether I can see the pixel or not is my least concern.
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I dont really understand what's with the "undetectable thing " people keep repeating.
If you browse at 4K, text is much smaller and the content displayed is much more than 1080p . I don't have to scroll 2 pages to see everything where I can see it in only one @4K.
When you buy bigger PC screen you get more space on your desktop ( icons / files etc.. ) because resolution gets higher not because the screen gets bigger.
Whether I can see the pixel or not is my least concern.
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That's not about resolution.
Resolution is about pixels.
How things appear on the screen is about layout / DPI.
U can easily spoof ur DPI in build.prop or with an xposed module, even per-app.
Just Google a bit and you'll find out
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That's not about resolution.
Resolution is about pixels.
How things appear on the screen is about layout / DPI.
U can easily spoof ur DPI in build.prop or with an xposed module, even per-app.
Just Google a bit and you'll find out
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Higher DPI means higher resolution....
In the first video I posted the dpi was increased as u can see in the end of the video the device becomes very laggy during transition.
bottom line, xperia can't handle 4K resolution.
Xeon said:
Higher DPI means higher resolution....
In the first video I posted the dpi was increased as u can see in the end of the video the device becomes very laggy during transition.
bottom line, xperia can't handle 4K resolution.
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Cool! So if I just put higher DPI, and everything looks smaller on my Z, that means I suddenly have 4K lol
Believe what u want to believe Bro :thumbup:
I don't understand why the rest of SD865 phones have 8K video recording while OP8Pro doesn't have. I am sure sensor supports it but they didn't enable in camera app. Is there a way to enable it or any 3rd party app that I can use? If not then any news if its coming in Android 11?
Still 8K not good Video in smartphone
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You can try "open camera" in the Video options you can select an 8k resolution and record a file with this resolution but I don't know if it will look better than 4k
Do you have an 8k TV to watch it on?
What is the point?
I don't even use 4k, even my TV is 1080p
Pc 2560x1080 ultra wide.
Sure there's a difference but you'll never be able to see it.
The camera does 4K because it's a 4K camera, that's that.
There is no way you can make a 4K shoot in 8K.
You could upscale a 4K video but that's it
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You can try "open camera" in the Video options you can select an 8k resolution and record a file with this resolution but I don't know if it will look better than 4k
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Just fyi, 8k resolution is not showing up in Open camera because the phone simply don't support it.
I'd rather have 4K recording on selfie camera tbh.
Yep, 4K is good enough to go for me...
dladz said:
Do you have an 8k TV to watch it on?
What is the point?
I don't even use 4k, even my TV is 1080p
Pc 2560x1080 ultra wide.
Sure there's a difference but you'll never be able to see it.
The camera does 4K because it's a 4K camera, that's that.
There is no way you can make a 4K shoot in 8K.
You could upscale a 4K video but that's it
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You do realize that 8K is around 33MP? The Main sensor has 48MP. The Chipsets and the Sensor should easily be able to handle it. It's just one of those weird decisions oneplus made, like disabling the near Infrared camera. Absolutely stupid.
CuriosiTea said:
You do realize that 8K is around 33MP? The Main sensor has 48MP. The Chipsets and the Sensor should easily be able to handle it. It's just one of those weird decisions oneplus made, like disabling the near Infrared camera. Absolutely stupid.
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Not sure it's as simple as that buddy. A case of flicking a switch, yes one of them cameras is 48MP.
Plus like I said unless you've got a ridiculous TV there is no point in 8K. The screen on the 8 pro isn't even 8K.
So not stupid at all.
The photochrom camera I can use just fine, sure it's via the engineer menu or an app but it's working.
Bottom line with the camera set is that they are what they are. A thread here won't change that.
dladz said:
Not sure it's as simple as that buddy. A case of flicking a switch, yes one of them cameras is 48MP.
Plus like I said unless you've got a ridiculous TV there is no point in 8K. The screen on the 8 pro isn't even 8K.
So not stupid at all.
The photochrom camera I can use just fine, sure it's via the engineer menu or an app but it's working.
Bottom line with the camera set is that they are what they are. A thread here won't change that.
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Yeah, i use the photochrome camera the same way. It works but it's not very elegant.
The ISP and the SOC are both capable of recording at 8K. Im not talking about wether it's a good idea to record at 8K, but why oneplus won't let us.
Yea, a thread on XDA probably won't change anything but it provides a platform to discuss that topic. That's what a forum is for.
Also, technically 2 cameras are 48MP, the normal and the ultrawide. The main camera uses the Sony IMX 689 and the ultrawide uses the IMX 586. The ISP is a Spectra 480 which is capable of recording at 8K 30FPS.
So yeah, the phone can do it but OnePlus decided not to implement it.
CuriosiTea said:
Yeah, i use the photochrome camera the same way. It works but it's not very elegant.
The ISP and the SOC are both capable of recording at 8K. Im not talking about wether it's a good idea to record at 8K, but why oneplus won't let us.
Yea, a thread on XDA probably won't change anything but it provides a platform to discuss that topic. That's what a forum is for.
Also, technically 2 cameras are 48MP, the normal and the ultrawide. The main camera uses the Sony IMX 689 and the ultrawide uses the IMX 586. The ISP is a Spectra 480 which is capable of recording at 8K 30FPS.
So yeah, the phone can do it but OnePlus decided not to implement it.
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2x 48mp? Really?
I dunno about 8k I don't even record in 4k pal lol.
I've no use for it really do 8k is overkill. Can't wait for the day it's mainstream but I think we're a way off yet.
There must have been reasoning for them not implementing it.