Hi, I have an unlocked Galaxy Note 3 currently in use for AT&T with their HSPA+ speeds and I have two bars at home, so my signal produces like less than a MB of speed. Is there a prepaid service I can get LTE on with my device? Is rooting really worth it for the LTE speeds?
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Considering HSPA+ is still only a 3g network, should phones that had 3g capability be able to take advantage of HSPA+? I mean when T-Mobile upgraded their old 3g to HSDPA/HSUPA, every phone got the boost.
And why do phones that are cable of utilizing HSPA+ need a sim card that supports HSPA+
yourlife said:
Considering HSPA+ is still only a 3g network, should phones that had 3g capability be able to take advantage of HSPA+? I mean when T-Mobile upgraded their old 3g to HSDPA/HSUPA, every phone got the boost.
And why do phones that are cable of utilizing HSPA+ need a sim card that supports HSPA+
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I work Tmo Retail. All 3g Tmo phones can utilize the HSPA+ network. The difference with the newer MT4G and G2 is that they can handle higher speeds depending on your area.
For instance, the Samsung Vibrant can handle up to 7.2 mbps while the G2 can do 14.4. In Los Angeles, I get around 4-5 megs on HSPA+ so both phones would be about the same speeds. However, I've heard in other areas in the country, some people have reached 8-12 mbps with HSPA+. In that case, the higher speed capabilities would make a difference.
Hope that answers your question!
hukkguai said:
I work Tmo Retail. All 3g Tmo phones can utilize the HSPA+ network. The difference with the newer MT4G and G2 is that they can handle higher speeds depending on your area.
For instance, the Samsung Vibrant can handle up to 7.2 mbps while the G2 can do 14.4. In Los Angeles, I get around 4-5 megs on HSPA+ so both phones would be about the same speeds. However, I've heard in other areas in the country, some people have reached 8-12 mbps with HSPA+. In that case, the higher speed capabilities would make a difference.
Hope that answers your question!
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So you're saying that once the average speeds for HSPA+ are say 8mbps that my phone will be capped at 7.2 mbps, but if the average speeds are currently under 7.2 that I would be completely capable of having the same speeds as a phone equipped for HSPA+?
Hey everyone,
When I bought the international version of Samsung Note II, the ad specifically said it would only work with EDGE lacking 3G, LTE capabilities. I know Tmobile is in the process of upgrading their towers to extend their 3G 1900+ coverage.
Funny thing happened today in Los Angeles, USA-- while I was walking my dog near a cellular tower I saw H+ on my phone (hooray no more E!). I immediately ran speedtest and had 16MB download speeds compared to my 200kb Edge. As I walked away from the tower, H+ became H which downloaded @ 7MB.
So were all these claims/scare that the international version of the Note 2 will "never" have 3G/LTE based on baseless assumptions given the lack of release in US? I'm assuming H+ = 4G/LTE?, H = 3G and E = lame.
Let me know what you guys think!
ilovejellybean said:
Hey everyone,
When I bought the international version of Samsung Note II, the ad specifically said it would only work with EDGE lacking 3G, LTE capabilities. I know Tmobile is in the process of upgrading their towers to extend their 3G 1900+ coverage.
Funny thing happened today -- while I was walking my dog near a cellular tower I saw H+ on my phone (hooray no more E!). I immediately ran speedtest and had 16MB download speeds compared to my 200kb Edge. As I walked away from the tower, H+ became H which downloaded @ 7MB.
So were all these claims/scare that the international version of the Note 2 will "never" have 3G/LTE based on baseless assumptions given the lack of release in US? I'm assuming H+ = 4G/LTE?, H = 3G and E = lame.
Let me know what you guys think!
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The International does NOT have LTE.
It does work on AT&T's HSPA+ network and on T-Mobile's EDGE network (2G)
However, if you're in an area where T-Mobile has already refarmed the 1900 MHz spectrum, then you will see HSDPA and HSPA+ speeds from T-Mobile (FauxG). However, in 2013 when T-Mobile starts deploying their LTE, you won't be able to get on that network, however, T-Mobile is planning on refarming the 1900 MHz spectrum for HSPA+ and 3G, so in that regards, if your area already has begun the refarm, then from now onwards you're only going to see more and more places where you pick up HSPA+
ilovejellybean said:
Hey everyone,
When I bought the international version of Samsung Note II, the ad specifically said it would only work with EDGE lacking 3G, LTE capabilities. I know Tmobile is in the process of upgrading their towers to extend their 3G 1900+ coverage.
Funny thing happened today in Los Angeles, USA-- while I was walking my dog near a cellular tower I saw H+ on my phone (hooray no more E!). I immediately ran speedtest and had 16MB download speeds compared to my 200kb Edge. As I walked away from the tower, H+ became H which downloaded @ 7MB.
So were all these claims/scare that the international version of the Note 2 will "never" have 3G/LTE based on baseless assumptions given the lack of release in US? I'm assuming H+ = 4G/LTE?, H = 3G and E = lame.
Let me know what you guys think!
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H+ is not LTE, it's just being marketed by T-mobile and AT&T to be "4G"
H+ = HSPA+
H = HSPA
Hey folks,
I am currently using an unlocked S4 from Wind Mobile on the Virgin Mobile network. It is technically the T-Mobile variant - SGH-M919V.
In comparison, the Virgin/Bell S4 is the SGH-I337.
My phone usually stays on LTE but it tends to revert to 3G in some areas, but never on 4G or H+. I had thought that the bands were compatible on the virgin mobile network, which brings me to my question.
Does your S4 ever revert to 4G or H+ when not on LTE? If that is the case, I am thinking of trading my Wind S4 for the Virgin/Bell S4.
Appreciate your feedback.
Thank you.
I'm pretty sure the M919 should fully support the 850 and 1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA bands, also you'd never see 3G or be able to do voice calls and texts without them.
I just got my SGH-I337M from Virgin yesterday and it definitely reverts to H+. So far it seems that it reverts from LTE to H+ after the phone has been sitting a while, and then if I start using the data it will kick up to LTE (probably doing that to save battery instead of keeping LTE on all the time?).
Who knows what could be going on with your unit. That is a Wind unit right? Maybe the software is different. One thing I know is that ROMs can show 3G/4G/H/H+ differently. Have you done a speed test while it is showing 3G? If it is true that you are falling all the way down to basic 3G/UMTS and not getting HSPA/HSPA+ then your speeds should be limited to less than 0.5 Mbps I think.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I managed to run a couple of speedtests when not on LTE. And they were around 2 Mbps down and 1.5 Mbps up. I don't think those are necessarily H+ speeds. But it's decent enough. Maybe then the reason I am seeing 3G is because of the way the ROM chooses to display non-LTE connections.
I double checked the supported bands, and it is true that the Wind S4 (T-Mobile variant) not only supports all the bands that the Bell/Virgin S4 does but the additional AWS band as well.
Is there a way for me to force the H+ connection on the phone, just to see that it works? Or should I possibly flash the modem/radio from the virgin/bell ROM?
Open up the Testing Menu, go into Device Info and see what it says for Network Type.
Make sure your wifi is off and hit "Run ping test" as few times and look at what it changes to.
HSPAP:15
HSPA:11
HSUPA:10
If you see these then it's fine, just icons are different.
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Okay,
I did a few things to verify that despite the phone showing 3G, it is in fact on 4G or H+ when not on LTE.
I went into ServiceMode by entering *#2263# in the Phone Dialer.
I forced non-LTE connections by changing the automatic preference to WCDMA 850 and WCDMA 1900 respectively.
These are the 2 bands that are 4G or H+ for Bell and Virgin Mobile Canada.
Then I ran speedtests to a close by server and got around 7 Mbps down and 3 Mbps, which are definitely 4G/H+ speeds.
Also, following @ChronoReverse advice, I found that the network type was in fact HSPAP: 15 and HSPA: 11 (screenshots attached).
So, in conclusion I can rest my obsessive personality and accept the fact that the phone is in fact capable & is running on 4G networks. It's a ROM thing I suppose.
Or in other words, the Galaxy S4 from Wind Mobile (or T-Mobile) is completely capable of running on Virgin Mobile Canada, Bell Canada, Rogers networks with full support of LTE and 4G/H+.
Embarrassed to say what a small little 3G icon does to a person these days!
Thanks for all the help!
OK, so I had an at&t s3 and had LTE getting speeds of roughly 30mbps. Now, on my nexus 4, I'm using g at&t with all of the LTE tricks and mods but all I am getting is 3g, h, and h+. The LTE APN does not give me a data icon. What do I do?
jamescable said:
OK, so I had an at&t s3 and had LTE getting speeds of roughly 30mbps. Now, on my nexus 4, I'm ng g at&t with all of the LTE tricks and mods but all I am getting is 3g, h, and h+. The LTE APN does not give me a data icon. What do I do?
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the nexus 4 doesnt support most of att lte. the n4 supports band 4 lte, att uses a different frequency. they do use band 4 in just a very few locations though, but mostly not.
I'm currently on x829 USA variant of the Le Max 2. I've noticed that for me switching to H+ gives way faster data speeds. I'm in USA on Metro PCS. I'm using t.mobile apns. Just thought I would let some people know, depending on your area H+ may bring faster data speeds. I've noticed this on all Roms. I guess it depends on your location and where the cell towers are located and traffic congestion. What are your thoughts?
Bottom is LTE with great upload speeds. Top is H+ with better download speeds. Basically when I switch to H+ I can stream Instagram videos no problem without loading. It totally depends on the area your in as well I know.
H+ is 3G HSPA+, it is much slower than 4G LTE.
my area the (t-mobile) LTE network speed is over 100mpbs all the time ....
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I'm currently on x829 USA variant of the Le Max 2. I've noticed that for me switching to H+ gives way faster data speeds. I'm in USA on Metro PCS. I'm using t.mobile apns. Just thought I would let some people know, depending on your area H+ may bring faster data speeds. I've noticed this on all Roms. I guess it depends on your location and where the cell towers are located and traffic congestion. What are your thoughts?
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It just mean your area LTE is bad.
cgigate said:
H+ is 3G HSPA+, it is much slower than 4G LTE.
my area the (t-mobile) LTE network speed is over 100mpbs all the time ....
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?!?! This sounds insane! What's the trick? Do you bribe T-Mobile in your area with cookies?!
Max speed of H+ is 63 Mbps. LTE is much faster but it depends on your area coverage.