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Bought my Xperia just over a month ago, and installed juicedefender and juiceplotter to help manage my power use.
At first, I did the whole charging cycle thing, and managed to get battery life up to nearly 20 hours after a week! In the past few weeks however, my phone barely lasts 10 hours now...the battery dies before I can get a chance to recharge. I am a heavy user, but that doesn't seem to explain the sudden drop in battery capacity.
Because of the drop in power over the last few weeks, I have set EVERYTHING to not update, and google sync has been set to sync every other day.
Will my battery just continue to get worse? or do I have a faulty battery?
don't get me wrong, I love my new phone...I just need to know if this is a typical problem, or if I need to get a new battery.
Thanks!
Hi - I'm getting about 40 hours out of mine.. I tend to switch mobile data off when I'm at home as I use wifi.. the problem seems mainly to lie with 3G.. so when I'm out and about I switch wifi off and mobile data on.. but I tend to keep to 2G (GSM) for background syncing etc.. and switch 3G(GSM/WCDMA preferred) on when I want to do any active stuff.. like internet browsing of using the XDA app... I also have my Wifi sleep policy set to "sleep when screen is off"..
What do you use your phone for? if you can tell me a bit about how your using your handset I might be able to give you some more specific advice.
Thanks for the fast reply!
I use juice defender to switch off 3G when the screen is off. It connects every 15 minutes, could that be the issue?
I've looked for a way to switch to GSM, but I can't seem to do it with my carrier(don't have the option in my settings).
I use a lot of data, up to 3 gigs per month 3G only(on average). 4 or 5 calls a day, and probably 100 texts per day. I keep my screen at around 25% brightness.
If you can't switch to GSM then maybe try switching mobile data off all together when you're not using it..(when travelling etc)... (far from ideal I know!).. but it might help.. I think that the 3G radio isn't sleeping properly.. the new software update which is due out anytime now MIGHT solve it.. but only if you're either on an unbranded handset (sound like you're not) or your carrier pushes the update through to you...
The other things you can try is to switch off "Search for updates automatically" in the phone settings... and switch of determine location by wireless networks (in the location settings menu)..
There was a thread about auto brightness causing constant cpu drain, leaving it autobrightness is thought to be battery kind`er.
Ive stopped using task managers and just use default android control and its good for my battery. I check the ram availability occasionaly and though it gets down to around 30 or 40 or meg it shows no slowdowns or hangups but I do reboot after charging every other night.
I'm experiencing similar behavior: poor, then good, then poor, then good again, of course with similar usage. I don't use any task killer and have 3G always on. I have tried 3 different batteries: the stock one, the one from my X1, and the 1800 mAh from Mugen: same pattern with every battery.
I definitely think that there's something bad in the design of the power circuitry and/or in the kernel.
Ok so I received my Vibrant on Monday and so far I am in love with it. Their are three things that bug me, however.
1. Battery Life is TERRIBLE. I know, I know-This has been discussed before but I did everything the other threads said and still no difference. On my phone, I will leave it on standby and it will drop 8 percent in like an hour and a half. Somethings wrong. Also, If I play the Sims for two hours (like I did today) my battery goes from 98% down to 45%. Is this normal?
Just to point out what I have going on with my phone:
- Brightness is turned down COMPLETELY. Automatic brightness is turned OFF.
- 3G is always on. Could this be the culprit?
- I have a completely black background.
- Last I checked, it said my display was taking up 60-70% of my battery usage.
- As stated above, Sims DRAINS my battery. Either somethings up with my phone or Samsung should have made sure the Sims doesnt kill the device.
2. The second I take my phone off the charger, the battery goes from 100% to 98%. Can I fix this? Its kind of annoying...
3. Problem with the Sims. Im not sure if any of you have this issue, but whenever I tell my Sim to watch TV, the app shuts down and takes me back to my home screen. Any idea why its happening?
alecjake said:
Ok so I received my Vibrant on Monday and so far I am in love with it. Their are three things that bug me, however.
1. Battery Life is TERRIBLE. I know, I know-This has been discussed before but I did everything the other threads said and still no difference. On my phone, I will leave it on standby and it will drop 8 percent in like an hour and a half. Somethings wrong. Also, If I play the Sims for two hours (like I did today) my battery goes from 98% down to 45%. Is this normal?
Just to point out what I have going on with my phone:
- Brightness is turned down COMPLETELY. Automatic brightness is turned OFF.
- 3G is always on. Could this be the culprit?
- I have a completely black background.
- Last I checked, it said my display was taking up 60-70% of my battery usage.
- As stated above, Sims DRAINS my battery. Either somethings up with my phone or Samsung should have made sure the Sims doesnt kill the device.
2. The second I take my phone off the charger, the battery goes from 100% to 98%. Can I fix this? Its kind of annoying...
3. Problem with the Sims. Im not sure if any of you have this issue, but whenever I tell my Sim to watch TV, the app shuts down and takes me back to my home screen. Any idea why its happening?
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1. Leaving a phone in 3G all the time is not a good idea, if you have WiFi near you you can connect to I'd use WiFi instead, it has less battery drain then the antenna that is constantly searching for 3G signal - unless you are in the area with bulletproof 3G coverage of course.
2. It seems like this bug is common 100% jumps to 98% once you unplug the charger, are there really any accurate battery meters on the market?
3. Can't help you there, not playing the game on my phone.
HTH
lqaddict said:
1. Leaving a phone in 3G all the time is not a good idea, if you have WiFi near you you can connect to I'd use WiFi instead, it has less battery drain then the antenna that is constantly searching for 3G signal - unless you are in the area with bulletproof 3G coverage of course.
2. It seems like this bug is common 100% jumps to 98% once you unplug the charger, are there really any accurate battery meters on the market?
3. Can't help you there, not playing the game on my phone.
HTH
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alright thanks. im in phoenix here so i am almost always in a 3G area. I guess i'll leave it on since i rarely dont have 3G
I also read on multiple forums including HoFo that 3G generally consumes more energy then WiFi.
sims 3 fix
so my girlfriend was complaining about sims crashing when she watched tv or relaxed on the couch. i fixed this by moving both the sims launcher app and the sims game app to data/app.
I normally use Edge simply because I don't need Wifi or 3G on unless I'm doing some heavy data transferring.
Currently I'm at 61% battery, which means my phone has been off the charger for 16hours. Its not a fluke either because its just normal use for me. I normally take my phone off the charger at 6am and I plug it back in around 11pm.
Prolonged GPS, Wifi and 3G will eat your battery. I'm not saying don't use the services, but you give up one for the other. I personally like to have awesome battery usage until I'm out and about and really need to use my phone.
I'd recommend you call T-Mobile customer service and have them diagnose the problems you are having and issue a replacement if necessary.
Based on my experience, battery life is excellent, probably the best I've seen in any smartphone in this category. Battery usually last easily through the day with heavy use, including:
- having 3G on all the time (and frequently switching to edge and back)
- 2 email accounts using push (gmail and exchange)
- gps on all the time
- google latitude running all the time
- facebook and twitter sync'ing every hour
- fancy widget sync'ing every two hours
- Newsroom harvesting 12 news sites in the background
- occasional picture (3 or 4) a day
- web browsing and searching
- xda app for reading and replying to this forum.
- bluetooth is always on
- wifi is on from 8 pm on.
I charge the phone through the night, unplug it at 8 am, return home at 8 pm and put it to charge around 11 pm, with still 50%. Brightness is set to auto. Phone is not rooted or modified in any way.
You bought a high end phone that should perform as such. You are supposed to get the most out of your phone, not turn off its features. I wouldn't listen to those who claim you should turn off everything and dim the screen. What's next, not using the phone to preserve batteries?
That's just my two cents.
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So for the past week and a half my G2 battery started draining super fast and it seems that the cell standby is the problem.
If I reboot the phone and have it on for 10mins cell standby time will show time on being 20mins. How is it searching for a signal an extra 50% of the time when it hasn't been on?
Also it will show that I have been without a signal for 50% of the time the phone has been on when I've never lost signal at all.
So the point of this thread is to see if I have a defective device so I can get it replaced. If anyone can help me out and post their Cell Standby times and Time Without signal percentages after a reboot and/or after a days use I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that had that problem. I had literally the EXACT same problem you are having, and exchanging my phone for a new one fixed it. My cell standby with that phone was in upwards of 79% and averaged 50% without a signal according to that screen. The new phone sits anywhere from 14-40% cell standby, and although there is definitely something wrong with how the radio on this handles signals, I don't get dropped calls anymore and it spends 0% of the time without a signal.
Another problem I had, and am still having, is that data connections just drop with no warning and I have to either wait forever for it to figure it out (there are no indicators of this status in the task bar, however nothing data wise will load) or put in in and out of airplane mode to reestablish a connection. I know plenty of others who have this issue as well and wonder if you do too.
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I did some checking around with other people that have Android phones as well (not just the G2) and they do not have this problem either. The good news is T-Mobile is sending a replacement because this unit is in fact a defect. Thank you Gwanatu for posting.
Guys, can you tell me how to see this cell standby info? I got mine yesterday and the disconnects are starting to irritate me. Behaves identically to my Nexus, up arrow stays for a looong time, up to a min until it starts receiving data.
Still agonizing about replacing my Nexus, so if these disconnects are a G2 "feature" as well, then I'll just go back...
Thanks
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Guys, can you tell me how to see this cell standby info? I got mine yesterday and the disconnects are starting to irritate me. Behaves identically to my Nexus, up arrow stays for a looong time, up to a min until it starts receiving data.
Still agonizing about replacing my Nexus, so if these disconnects are a G2 "feature" as well, then I'll just go back...
Thanks
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Settings>About Phone>Battery Use>Cell Standby.
A T-Mobile rep told me they are using new/different type sim cards for smart phones and that could be a possible issue if you are using an older one. Mine was about 5-6yrs old.
My cell standby is at 58% and time witout a signal is 50%...
Did a quick google search and found the airplane mode trick
1. Plug in phone charger
2. Put phone in Airplane mode
3. Put phone to sleep for a minute
4. Turn off airplane mode
5. Unplug phone
I did this and now my cell standby is at 14% and time without a signal is at 3%
fwiw my cell standby is 21% since last reboot days ago.
I do not have php and it is well past 15 days...airplane trick no longer works...still sitting @ 41% cell standby...don't know what else to do
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Does any one think a factory reset and training the OS would help?
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ive noticed the cell standby % being higher than it was on my nexus one. cell standby is typically the highest % item in my battery use list (my nexus was always the damn screen sucking up power). if i click it it shows the % time without a cell signal. for me, its always been 0% whenever i check so im not losing signal ever it seems. my battery life is actually quite awesome with this phone so it doesnt seem to be affecting anything really. maybe it has to due with the fact that this phone's SoC is a smaller fabrication and more efficient? that might make other stuff appear to use more power compared to older phones that had less efficient SoC's. just a thought
I just in stalled Screebl lite app. Basicly keeps the phone from going off. Once installed my cell standy by went from 37% to 12%. Can any one else confirm the same results?
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My cell standy was running at 60+% with no signal running 50%. I did the online chat with Customer Care, and she ended up saying they were going to replace the phone. Funny part is that during the troubleshooting, I pulled the battery for a few minutes, and since then, cell standby has been 39%, with 0 lost signal time. I don't know what that did, but battery life has increased a ton. And a replacement is on the way...may try it for a few days, but this is working fine, so not sure I am going to exchange.
As I'm looking through the threads I'm seeing people getting terrific battery life. What can I do to get better battery life besides all the little tricks like cutting of gps, syncing, and back light etc? As I stated in another post I run the tunein app for 2hrs and my phone is at 20% HELP!!!
Stop using tunein/find alternative? I'm not exactly sure what the application does but I'm sure there has to be another application that offers similar functionality in the market, that might be easier on the battery.
powered by the tears of a million orphaned alpacas...
I've tried a alternative. I've tried the app for the actual radio station still get the same thing.
I use Tunein Radio since it's one of my favorites apps and have no issues whatsoever ... I mean it's normal the battery usage since it's streaming media.
Turning off the 4g made the biggest difference for me.
I'm usually near wifi, and with that on all day I SOMETIMES end up w/ <60% battery at the end of the day.
So just kick a man while he's down why don't ya!!!
Try this:
1. Do a full reset
2. Fully charge the phone. Once light is green, Let it stay unplugged for a couple of seconds, turn off the phone and plug in again. When light turns green again (may take up to an hour). Repeat until the green light appears almost instantly. This may take anywhere from 4-10 cycles.
3. Run the phone stock for one complete cycle. Don't add any apps.
4. If you have no problems, charge the phone then try adding one app then let the battery cycle again.
5. Keep adding an app after each cycle and monitor your battery consumption.
This way you can find out if the issue is your phone or the app. I know this isn't a quick fix, but it will help you dial in on the problem. I had similar problems as you before going through these steps. One of my cycles only got 2 hours of life before dying. I now get 15 hours of medium to heavy usage consistently! I am currently at 15 hours 5 minutes with 32%.
why dont you stop using apps to "fix" your battery and use the internal battery monitor program to narrow down exactly whats causing your battery drain?
settings>about phone>battery>battery usage
keeps a running tab on whats been using your battery since last unplugged.
if its cell standby, that usually means you are in a place that doesnt have service too long.
display is just screen being turned on.
android system is basically stuff installed in android. such as email, surfing the web, the market, etc etc.
see what that tells you. dont cover up the problem. get down to its roots. my phone completely stock got medium usage and lasted almost 9-10 hours.
Good points, newkidd. Finding the root cause is critical. However, I'd like to add that just because Display or Cell Standby is the top battery user at any given point in time is not necessarily a bad thing.
For example, if you were to unplug your phone in the morning but then forget it on the kitchen table when you leave the house for the day (No, I've never done that!), you'd see that Cell Standby was the top battery user for the day. But that's expected with a properly running phone that sat all day with 0 usage.
On the other hand, if you did nothing on your phone all day but turn it on every 5 minutes to check the time and then turned it back off, then Display would be the top battery user. Doesn't mean there's something wrong with the display or settings. At least not if your battery still lasts a full day. It just means the display was on a lot.
However, if your battery is down to 20% after only 2 hours, something is definitely wrong. Tunein is a streaming audio app, right? When you use it, are you in a good 3G (or 4G) coverage area? If the phone is having difficulty keeping a strong data signal then a streaming service could definitely eat up more battery than normal. How long does your battery last when you don't use Tunein? Or have you tried using it while connected via wifi instead of cellular data?
I'm starting to come to the conclusion I'm in a bad coverage area when at work. I left my at home today by accident and it was still almost full battery. I haven't tried using wi-fi.
Poor reception kills your battery QUICK. My house has horrible reception and for the week I was battling the cable company over our internet (no wifi) my phone would only last a few hours. Last weekend when I was home most of the day, so using maybe 85% wifi, my battery lasted the 18.5hrs until I went to bed. And I'm a heavy user. 3 gmail accounts synced, screen at near max brightness and lots of screen on and data use.
^ Shift Faced
my work
My work as well has horrible reception. We run a lot of electronics and are next to the airport, all bad for cell signals.
I try to stream music, but it is a crap shot depending on the day.
I have an audiobook that I listened to all day, with no significant additional drain. However streaming music gets me about three or four hours.
I work in the middle of Houston, TX, so I should be covered by excellent 3G and 4G signal. But at my desk in a corner office, windows on 2 sides of me, on the 6th floor of a 20 floor building, I get intermittent 3G and have never gotten a 4G connection.
Although that's better than when I was on the 20th floor for about a year. My desk was right against the windows but I couldn't even get a cell signal, much less 3G (no 4G at the time). I had to put my phone on airplane mode when I got to the office or the battery would die before lunch just from trying to get a cell signal. I could change the settings to force roaming only and calls/texts would work OK, but still drained the battery quickly.
Fortunately, we have wifi at the office so I connect to that every morning now and everything works fine. It's just annoying that I can't get 4G at all. Can't get it at home either (in a house, right by the window), even though the Sprint coverage map shows that I should. I can zoom in to my address and it's in the dark blue (best available) coverage area that should mean I can get a 4G signal inside buildings - "You will be able to use 4G data inside most buildings, in a car, and outside." Nope. Not unless I stand outside.
Back on topic, a poor signal will eat the battery for lunch...
no 4G at all here
I am annoyed that there is no 4G in Phoenix at all. 4th or 5th largest city in the country, (depending on the study), and we get snubbed.
Thanks a lot Sprint
Exactly! Where's our 4G in Phoenix. I remember reading about some test market thing with the valley, Clearwire and Sprint about running WiMax and nothing ever came of it. Oh well, guess we just have to be patient.
My battery life is great on my shift. Still stock, having issues getting root through my laptop, but I usually get a whole day out of my battery. For the first time I'm actually impressed with android battery life.
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I'm trying out some things today for battery life, will post with results tomorrow
Problem is Android Market makes it way too easy to download a crap ton of of apps to the point that your phone slows to a crawl. We live in an always connected world, but this also means we need to be more aware of what and whom we interact with. Be careful out there kiddies.
Hi,
The Nexus 6P has been pretty good so far on battery. Nothing super insane, but enough to get me through a day.
Max I get is 3 hours SOT when I hit 0%...
Android OS is usually in the top 3, and in a 10 hour day, its getting 2 hours of Keep Awake time and about 30min Mobile Radio Active.
Google Play Services is also getting around 45min Mobile Radio Active as well.
Phone is bone stock, bootloader locked, unrooted. Running a handful of apps, even stopped using my Moto360 and disabled bluetooth when not in use to see if that was the culprit.
Any tips? (or apps that help me delve deeper into Android OS and why it keeps waking the thing up)
would also like to know about this, having very similar stats
Similar situation here - crazy battery drain and "Keep Awake" when I have a sim card in (TMo). 3 hours sitting on my desk - not using it - the phone gets warm/hot and Keep Awake shows 1H 16m under Android OS. When I put the same sim back into my Nexus 5 (using the adapter/converter) the N5 battery is perfectly fine.. normal.. no massive drain.
Any thoughts?
Turn off Wifi and give it a try. See if you still have the same battery drain.
pogul said:
Similar situation here - crazy battery drain and "Keep Awake" when I have a sim card in (TMo). 3 hours sitting on my desk - not using it - the phone gets warm/hot and Keep Awake shows 1H 16m under Android OS. When I put the same sim back into my Nexus 5 (using the adapter/converter) the N5 battery is perfectly fine.. normal.. no massive drain.
Any thoughts?
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Go into location & uncheck all scanning functions
Thanks. I should have mentioned that I already had wifi and bt turned off, and had turned off scanning for both under Locations. I was trying to isolate this to cell signal as best I could by disabling wifi and bt things. I also tried turning off "Enhanced LTE" - and now I'm trying it with wifi calling on (again just to narrow down different possibilities).
I think a factory reset is in my near future - may as well start from completely scratch and see if I still get the same horrible battery drain.
Just reporting back. I did a factory reset - and INITIALLY I thought I was on to something. Battery life seemed better at first, but then I soon began dropping cell signal - which apparently sends the phone off searching for signal chewing up battery.
In my case it's never ending cycle - get signal, drop, search, get signal, drop search.
Yes, I'm in a fairly weak TMo LTE service area, but my Nexus 5 and my wife's Nexus 4 have never had these sort of massive drain issues.
Also, I was in a major metro area on Sat night and the signal kept dropping as well. I couldn't toggle it back on via airplane mode or the mobile data switch. I finally had to reboot to bring it back - and then it proceeded to drop again. Meanwhile, my wife's N4 had no issues.
I went to TMo on Sunday and swapped out the sim - no change. 6P went from fully charged to completely dead overnight (roughly 1AM to 9AM).
So, at this point I'm wondering if I just have a faulty 6P. I'll be calling Google today to see about an RMA exchange :/
pogul said:
Just reporting back. I did a factory reset - and INITIALLY I thought I was on to something. Battery life seemed better at first, but then I soon began dropping cell signal - which apparently sends the phone off searching for signal chewing up battery.
In my case it's never ending cycle - get signal, drop, search, get signal, drop search.
Yes, I'm in a fairly weak TMo LTE service area, but my Nexus 5 and my wife's Nexus 4 have never had these sort of massive drain issues.
Also, I was in a major metro area on Sat night and the signal kept dropping as well. I couldn't toggle it back on via airplane mode or the mobile data switch. I finally had to reboot to bring it back - and then it proceeded to drop again. Meanwhile, my wife's N4 had no issues.
I went to TMo on Sunday and swapped out the sim - no change. 6P went from fully charged to completely dead overnight (roughly 1AM to 9AM).
So, at this point I'm wondering if I just have a faulty 6P. I'll be calling Google today to see about an RMA exchange :/
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Maybe try activating band 12?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/fastboot-activate-band-12-volte-t3239652
I found that my wifi network was causing doze to not work as good. I turned off wifi at night last night and got better results with just data.
My radio is accounting for 88% percent of my phones battery drain. I was down to 60 percent with about an hour of SoT. Not sure what's going on with my device either. I was about to factory reset but don't want to.
Bums me out when I see people getting 4+ hours. I want that action.
I had the mobile active bug also, very close to getting an iPhone.
I saw in another thread that apps like GasBuddy has been causing wake locks like you describe. The issue may be app related. Rooting and installing a battery monitor app should give you more insight as well as wiping and loading just your basic apps to find the culprit because something is definitely wrong.
I get 6 hr SOT without doing anything special and at night I lose 1%, sometimes none if I only sleep for 5hrs and that's with wifi on.
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