Hey guys,
I'm looking to implement a tablet in my car. The Ideapad A1000 seems like a good alternative to some crappy chinesse no-name out there at a decent price.
But I'm woundering about the quality of the GPS? Is it good enough to use as a "in car" GPS or should I opt out for the A3000?
Thanks!
t1mman said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to implement a tablet in my car. The Ideapad A1000 seems like a good alternative to some crappy chinesse no-name out there at a decent price.
But I'm woundering about the quality of the GPS? Is it good enough to use as a "in car" GPS or should I opt out for the A3000?
Thanks!
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I just got mine and I am telling you it is crap. No gps lock within an hour.
heinzelrumpel said:
I just got mine and I am telling you it is crap. No gps lock within an hour.
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Well, TBH, I got the initial GPS lock with GPS Test, but it has to stay near the windsheild to get a lock.
But, the most problem I got is with the Bluetooth. It keeps on disconnecting so I can't get a decent read from my OBDII ELM327 device...
It's still a good tablet for the kids, and most likely better than most tablet at the same price, but just not for what I need!
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hi,
Brand new to XDA stuff, not even got one yet but I've ordere done and it's on the way.
I've inherited tomtom5 from my brother who had it for his PDA but he's now switched to something else for the P910 so he's given me his software and maps and stuff but no hardware.
Can anyone recomend a low cost gps receiver for the XDAIIs that I can buy? I was hoping to get one for about £50.
thanks!
chrisB
PS: any other newbie tips, links, etc would be welcome!
I've got this one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=69928&item=5792682667&rd=1
works like a dream
I ended up buying this one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789496541&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
looks prettymuch the same...
it is... good luck :wink:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn
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Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn
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so, how yo finding it?
flashflash said:
I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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But why they are offering a phone with higher street price? TIMEO DANOS ET DONA FERENTES, was my mother lesson, have you studied troy story (trojan horse comes from that story)?
May be that phone isn't so requested and why a phone with this great hardware isn't requested?
Lot of stupids... or lot of problems?
My TyTN experience: nice toy to play, hard to put your business on It!
You NEED also to know the serial number, because below HTC638xxxx you will face (odds=50-60% in a poll here) the screen alignment (SA) issue and HTC service....., just search here
The screen alignment problem can be easily fixed. The solution is somewhere in here... But it's just a matter of slinding a credit card type of plastic all around and between the screen and bezel. I fixed mine this way.
However, the TyTN and the Prophet are not too diferent in speed under normal circumstances and except when using Skype where the Prophet lacks a bit.
You can see a "real-life" speed comparisson here (it's in spanish but you will be able to make sense of it): http://www.poderpda.tv/episodio/48
In the end, I ended up liking the TyTN more than the Prophet becasue of Skype performance and the Keyboard it's just fantastic.
Cheers!
Rayan
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
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Are u kidding? of course not, Tytn is awesome
If you don't like tytn, trinity(P3600) is a good choice, it's a tytn withous keyboard.
Eten has screen alignment problems 2.
Just go to eten-users forum and check the bugs.
Eten no thanks :x
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But why they are offering a phone with higher street price?
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i was expecting delivery today, and when it didn't come i called the company. it turned out the stupid woman i talked to ordered an sony erricsson m600, so i complained and they said they would send me a tytn instead!
thanks for the comments guys!!! looks like i'll give it a go!
Cingular 8525
what is the soultion for GPS , caz i want to use navigtor inside, it
thanks
you're probally not going to get much of a responce man, being your first post and everything..
if you would have looked around you would know its still in development and is not working right now, and that there might be some hardware issues (lack of an antenna)
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Cingular 8525
what is the soultion for GPS , caz i want to use navigtor inside, it
thanks
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Ah - new to the forum. Welcome
A few pointers:
1. Make sure your thread title summarises your question/problem
2. Do a search to be sure question has not arisen before
3. There are several boards on the forum - make sure you are on the correct one.
Regarding GPS, as JamesHolden says, the inbuilt GPS chip is unlikely to be enabled anytime soon. In fact, I'd say it never will be due to practical difficulties that make it something that in practical terms will not be worth doing.
If you want GPS therefore you'll need to buy the necessary accessories:
Go to this board:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=307
Mike
Thanks for fast reply.
i already searched alot,
but there is no good answer as you mention,
so i am going to buy GPS bluethooth reciver ,
i am not sure about the cheapest one!!
m.basili said:
Thanks for fast reply.
i already searched alot,
but there is no good answer as you mention,
so i am going to buy GPS bluethooth reciver ,
i am not sure about the cheapest one!!
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Yes, actually I was considering getting a btooth one myself. I read today about one in the accessories forum that is very small and even picks up 8/10 sats in the car glove compartment. Also one that goes for 32 hours between charges and one that pops straight into a cigar lighter socket. Lots of choice.
Mike
Is it possible to hook the incredible up to a bigger touchscreen? Here's what I have in mind...I have been working on plans for a center console for my truck and I have been thinking about building a dock for the phone and hook it up to an 8" touchscreen...mainly for navigation, but it would be nice to be able to control the phone without having to pic it up. If it can't be done then I can just get a monitor instead of touchscreen.
Well you could utilize the TV Out but touch capabilities probably wont happen but it is possible..
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I was just thinking about this the other day... I searched around but couldn't find any answers.
Although mounting a tablet in the dash also crossed my mind... cost and not being able to take calls ruined that idea though..
RdBrd83 said:
I was just thinking about this the other day... I searched around but couldn't find any answers.
Although mounting a tablet in the dash also crossed my mind... cost and not being able to take calls ruined that idea though..
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I believe the android tablets can be made to make phone calls, that plus bluetooth and it could work
Yes they can be made to take calls... I used my Archos 101 with sipdroid and google voice as a phone for about a week. A little buggy but it works.
A tablet would cost a lot more than any other option though. I just want to know if it will work.
Anyone know the answer to this for sure either way?
WHY?
wljohnson05 said:
Is it possible to hook the incredible up to a bigger touchscreen? Here's what I have in mind...I have been working on plans for a center console for my truck and I have been thinking about building a dock for the phone and hook it up to an 8" touchscreen...mainly for navigation, but it would be nice to be able to control the phone without having to pic it up. If it can't be done then I can just get a monitor instead of touchscreen.
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interesting indeed the things people think of on here. post pictures of your creation for us to see when you are done for i am intrigued!
I'll try to keep this updated if I do in fact build it. It might be something I work on this week if I can find the time.
looks like an interesting project... I'll have to subscribe to this one
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My A500 is going back to Costco. This the 3rd one that GPS just sucks. Before the update I was getting form 4-10 invew and in use. They did say GPS will be fix in 3.1...I'm not getting a lock at all now. So F Acer.
I just came back from fry's...they have the Toshiba on display. I tether my nexus 1 and got a lock in 3sec and it's lighter then the Acer. A little bigger but lighter. Yes it's just going to be the 16GB but I have a 32GB SD.
if you dont like it, return it.
edit: i personally havent had a problem with gps. besides its not like im actually using it to navigate. but just a heads up, i will almost guarentee you that there will be something you dont like about the toshiba. and it will just continue. no one makes a perfect tablet, thats why there is still competition and not one company dominating. but good luck, hope its something that works out for you.
Seconded
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if you dont like it, return it.
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So get your money back and get what makes you happy. No GPS issues to speak of on any build I have ran, but to each their own.
Seconded
n1nj4dude said:
if you dont like it, return it.
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Seconded these words of wisdom. So get your money back and get what makes you happy. No GPS issues to speak of on any build I have ran, but to each their own issues.
Pardon the double post
On my old Samsung intercept and it's being annoying today
n1nj4dude said:
if you dont like it, return it.
edit: i personally havent had a problem with gps. besides its not like im actually using it to navigate. but just a heads up, i will almost guarentee you that there will be something you dont like about the toshiba. and it will just continue. no one makes a perfect tablet, thats why there is still competition and not one company dominating. but good luck, hope its something that works out for y
ou.
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Wellllllllll I did say it's going back.
Maybe it will have problems as lone as GPS work. I do use it for nav. It's replacing my carpc.
O I don't like the led on front of the Toshiba. So there u go.
soloxp said:
Wellllllllll I did say it's going back.
Maybe it will have problems as lone as GPS work. I do use it for nav. It's replacing my carpc.
O I don't like the led on front of the Toshiba. So there u go.
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No need in being a smart ass about it.
GPS is weak on the Acer. It bothers me too but 99.9% of time I am using maps I am on wifi and locations works fine so not total FUBAR.
I guess OP would have been better served by a Xoom.. with phone service capability.
edgie168 said:
I guess OP would have been better served by a Xoom.. with phone service capability.
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And without any brand fanboi-ism here, I'd have to agree. The GPS on the Acer works great for me - as long as you're connected to the Internet. Which requires Wireless. Which kind of assumes you aren't driving. There are some "hacks" to help improve that which seem to work pretty well, but it's a workaround and not an out-of-box solution.
Yes GPS works without Internet, but not as well.
But, I think we can mostly agree the OP is doing a bit of trolling, intentionally or not...
cybermage1 said:
But, I think we can mostly agree the OP is doing a bit of trolling, intentionally or not...
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I don't know if it would constitute trolling. A "troll" is someone who says something for the sole purpose of enraging someone else. I think he was just expressing rage he felt himself.
To be honest, I share his pain. I'm considering taking mine back and giving it a third go because of the shoddy GPS.
There is no question that Acer provides poor build construction; but you get what you pay for. The A500 is the cheapest of the "me too" tablets, and it shows. They cheaped out on certain parts to bring the price down. Though, they are also claiming to have sold over a million units, so I guess the strategy is working. In retrospect, I wonder how many of the million units got returned.
What irks me is the complete lack of support from Acer. I've been investigating the GPS issue for a while, and it seems as though Acer is aware of the issue and is now starting to rationalize it, which is never a good sign. I've seen people claim that Acer has told them that the GPS isn't meant to be used for navigation; I've seen people claim that Acer techs have told them outright that GPS doesn't exisit on this model. I've been personally told by Acer that I could send it back in, but it would be on my dime because fixing the GPS constitutes an "upgrade" from original functionality.
Acer is playing the "max units sold" game to try and gain brand recognition in a vain attempt to overtake the iPad, and hoping they don't lose too many customers in the process to defective units.
If you want superior build quality, iPad is second to none. Hopefully the up-coming android tablets give us some more options. Best of luck on whatever you choose.
Cheers,
-PW
n1nj4dude said:
if you dont like it, return it.
edit: i personally havent had a problem with gps. besides its not like im actually using it to navigate. but just a heads up, i will almost guarentee you that there will be something you dont like about the toshiba. and it will just continue. no one makes a perfect tablet, thats why there is still competition and not one company dominating. but good luck, hope its something that works out for you.
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sorry to tell you, APPLE is dominating 85% of tablet industry
interqd said:
sorry to tell you, APPLE is dominating 85% of tablet industry
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That may be true but at what costs? I love the openess of android and the ease of use.
In regards to the GPS I never noticed it before reading lots of posts here, then again I use my cell phone for that since that has constant internet connection.
Sorry for typos using A500 and holding newborn at the same time.
Good luck with the new tablet hope its everything you are looking for.
dasudevil said:
Sorry for typos using A500 and holding newborn at the same time.
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Jeez dude, careful you don't drop! Better put that A500 down before you break it!
interqd said:
sorry to tell you, APPLE is dominating 85% of tablet industry
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Source, please? My ipad2 was returned inside of 2 hours of purchase after I found out I could not use flash video via the web.
dasudevil said:
That may be true but at what costs? I love the openess of android and the ease of use.
In regards to the GPS I never noticed it before reading lots of posts here, then again I use my cell phone for that since that has constant internet connection.
Sorry for typos using A500 and holding newborn at the same time.
Good luck with the new tablet hope its everything you are looking for.
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Seconded. Not very fun to try to use a 10 inch tablet for GPS - that's why I have my El cheapo Virgin Mobile samsung intercept for - 25$ a month, rooted, fits my car mount, provides a unlimited 3g hotspot for my a500
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And without any brand fanboi-ism here, I'd have to agree. The GPS on the Acer works great for me - as long as you're connected to the Internet. Which requires Wireless. Which kind of assumes you aren't driving. There are some "hacks" to help improve that which seem to work pretty well, but it's a workaround and not an out-of-box solution.
Yes GPS works without Internet, but not as well.
But, I think we can mostly agree the OP is doing a bit of trolling, intentionally or not...
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Which is why I really, really don't understand why folks are crying over below-average GPS performance on **WIFI ONLY** tablets.
And if you're using your phone as a wifi hotspot in conjunction with a 10" tablet--in your car--you might as well just use your damn phone as a GPS or get a 3G capable tablet.
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Which is why I really, really don't understand why folks are crying over below-average GPS performance on **WIFI ONLY** tablets.
And if you're using your phone as a wifi hotspot in conjunction with a 10" tablet--in your car--you might as well just use your damn phone as a GPS or get a 3G capable tablet.
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Could not agree more. Don't buy a wifi only tablet and expect to use it for navigation - that is just a bit silly.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Could not agree more. Don't buy a wifi only tablet and expect to use it for navigation - that is just a bit silly.
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Well there are apps such as CoPilot which just needs to have a GPS. Though it is a bit idiotic to use a 10" tablet as a navigator, it does not justify the malfunction of the GPS unit!
i.e. in Acer they build crap and QA just approve the crap and then we consumer help them out.
First of all it is not a cheap tablet, cheap to me means something in range of Chinese knock-offs.
Second to that, somebody here read warranty to me that we should accept what they produce since in warranty says everything is "AS-IS". Should consumers really buy crapware since brands says so?
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Well there are apps such as CoPilot which just needs to have a GPS. Though it is a bit idiotic to use a 10" tablet as a navigator, it does not justify the malfunction of the GPS unit!
i.e. in Acer they build crap and QA just approve the crap and then we consumer help them out.
First of all it is not a cheap tablet, cheap to me means something in range of Chinese knock-offs.
Second to that, somebody here read warranty to me that we should accept what they produce since in warranty says everything is "AS-IS". Should consumers really buy crapware since brands says so?
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humm my english is not good but im gona try reply
Acer dont build crap i never have any problem with acer products, laptops and others things,i bought some Sony and asus produtcs and have alot of problems, and go read the asus transformer forum and you gona see they have more problems than us with GPS and other things,acer a500 its a good tablet,people need realize acer was bad in the past but know they have a very good products.