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Nexus 7 to Note 8.0. Thoughts after switching...

I like to consider myself objective when it comes to reviewing electronics. I am a fan of the Nexus line because I like the immediate updates, and I constantly flash new ROMS. I still own my Nexus 4 and have been extremely happy with it. As far as the differences between the N7 and the Note 8.0 they are almost two completely different devices. At work I use my tablet for looking up manuals (PDFs), navigating while flying and as a daily planner. At home I use it to surf the web, read the news and watch Netflix. I DO use the s-pen on a daily basis. I am not a big gamer on my tablet. Here are my thoughts between the two devices.
Screen:
The screen on the Note 8.0 is unique in that the specs are lower than the Nexus 7, but it performs outstanding. It is noticeably wider than the N7. It is much easier to view web pages and also use as a GPS with my flight maps. I do think you can notice the pixels slightly more when reading text but not even close to the extent of that on the Note 10.1 (I have used one a few times). I thought the 10.1 was completely unacceptable. It is almost like putting a matte screen protector on a Nexus 7, it adds a slight pixelation. The odd part is the despite the decrease in pixels from the N7, movies are so much clearer on the Note 8.0. Samsung does a fantastic job rendering videos and HD content looks fantastic. I am sure the colors make a difference, but content is fluid, fast, bright and crystal clear.
Color:
Colors are outstanding on the Note 8.0 compared to any other device I have used. Overall brightness is higher and the colors pop (without the burn in possibility of a Super Amoled Plus). The screens runs on the cooler side with whites, but that is how I prefer them. The tablet comes with a "reading mode" that makes whites more on the warm side. Samsung states that this is to reduce the strain on your eyes and it truly helps. I think this mode allowed Samsung to keep whites on the cooler side without risking people not buying the tablet for reading books.
Sound:
Sound on the note 8.0 as well as the Nexus 7 could be better. It is fine for YouTube however music Lacks dynamic range. This is fairly standard across the mid-sized tablet line-up. The Note 8.0 speakers are slightly louder and clearer than the nexus 7. One key difference is the Location of the speakers. The Nexus 7 speakers face aft where as the Note 8.0 faces the side. This makes the Note 8.0's speakers better for movies and YouTube. I have not really noticed an issue with the lack of sterio speakers. In execution the sound just appears to come from the location of the screen and not one side or the other.
Battery:
I get 7-8 hours on screen time consistently. It is slightly less than my Nexus 7 with on screen time. The Note 8.0 is much better than the Nexus 7 with battery drain with the screen off though. I average a drain only 1% per hour with the screen off.
Apps:
I use the ANote HD application for my daily planning. It has some flaws, but helps me stay organized. What I do not like is that Samsung packs a ton of additional apps that can not be uninstalled by the owner. This includes the app store, peel etc. All they do it take up space. Additionally you can not transfer apps to the SD card at this time. The S4 just got an update allowing it and I hope Samsung will update the Note 8.0 to allow this.
Camera:
I did not think I would use a camera on a tablet, but I have found a purpose for the camera on the Note 8.0. I use an application called "camscanner" and this allows me to take pictures of test flight cards, memorandums, business cards and organize them as PDFs. I can also attached the scanned pics into my ANote HD app. It works extremely well.
Conclusion:
The one thing I really miss is NFC. I used it between my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 to share pictures when WIFI was not available. I loved my Nexus 7 and only talked myself into getting rid of it for the s-pen, ANote HD app, and the price of $325 plus $25 Play Credit didn't hurt. After getting the tablet (my first Samsung product) I can say that I have NEVER liked an electronic this much. It works so well I did not even find the need to unlock it, which is good because development is still a little slow. If you think you will use the s-pen and can get a good deal like I did I would switch. I also decided to pull the trigger before the new Nexus 7 dropped so that I could still sell mine for a decent price. I Sold it for $250 with my Otterbox case so not bad.
Hopes this helps anyone considering the two tablets. Don't forget to hit the "thanks" button if it did. Please feel free to ask specific questions.

I like my note as well, got it for 4 days. Although it does freeze randomly (while trying to text, the screen is unresponsive) but its really not that bad. I got it from best buy and they priced match with staples($350). I have about 10 days now to return and I'm hoping to hear more info on the new nexus 7. I plan on switching because I think 7 is a better size but this note is pretty nice (with the s_pen of course). I've disabled certain system apps so hopefully its a bit faster. I am running stock, and after my 15 days are up, I'm going to root ;P so they better release info on that new nexus!
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Thanks!
I found your article extremely helpful in making a final decision on my new device. I came from a pre-owned Nook Tablet that I rooted sometime last year, so I can't say my standards were very high to begin with, but I had my heart set on a brand new device. This was to be the 1st brand new tablet I've ever owned, so I was torn between affordability & performance. Alas, thanks to your experience, I believe I've made the right choice. I couldn't help rooting & loading custom recovery the same day I received my Note 8.0 though. After removing the phone apk, I found battery life in sleep state to be amazing! Left my tablet alone for an 11 hour work day, and it was still at the same level as when I had left it (86% btw). Sorry for getting kinda "rambly" there, I did mean this to be a short thank you for sharing your experience. Hope someone else out there comes by your post and makes the right, albeit expensive, decision.

Majin101 said:
I like my note as well, got it for 4 days. Although it does freeze randomly (while trying to text, the screen is unresponsive) but its really not that bad.
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Same problem in n5100 stock firmware, seems a samsung bug in all note 8 models. Solved with n51XX Civato's kernels and custom rom. No more random freezes. now is the best tablet
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I really appreciated your post because you discuss real world use of the devices and not whether they are made of "cheap plastic" have technical specs 2 ppi difference, etc. Thanks for a really useful review.
Bruce

I use my Nexus 7 now as my Kindle Reader. I've got one of the older Kindles and the screen just seems too dull for me. The 8 has replaced the N7 and it is a worthy upgrade.
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I just added a section for sound. I thought it was an important difference to include.
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Thanks for this useful post. I am really attached to the Nexus 7 so replacing it with another tablet was always going to be hard. I had the option of a mobile phone upgrade with a 'free' Note 8.0 and now I do feel confident that this will be an ideal replacement.
I was slightly disappointed that you didn't rate the sound from the speakers. The Nexus has pretty poor audio output, I was hoping the Note was going to be much better.

apprentice said:
Thanks for this useful post. I am really attached to the Nexus 7 so replacing it with another tablet was always going to be hard. I had the option of a mobile phone upgrade with a 'free' Note 8.0 and now I do feel confident that this will be an ideal replacement.
I was slightly disappointed that you didn't rate the sound from the speakers. The Nexus has pretty poor audio output, I was hoping the Note was going to be much better.
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Updated with sound.
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soloilmeglio said:
Same problem in n5100 stock firmware, seems a samsung bug in all note 8 models. Solved with n51XX Civato's kernels and custom rom. No more random freezes. now is the best tablet
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I can confirm on my 5110 that Civato's kernel solved the intermittent pause issue. Still running stock ROM.
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danlo said:
I can confirm on my 5110 that Civato's kernel solved the intermittent pause issue. Still running stock ROM.
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Not to quote myself, but it is important to note that from what I've read so far, if you go with *anything* custom (root, ROM, kernel, recovery) , Allshare *will not work*. I found out the hard way so I can't use my Miracast adapter with it.

appointed hwastedf
Thanks for this, I have been looking at the Note 8 for a while now.
I had the Nexus 10, but the clock kept slipping so I sent it back to Google.
Had the Nexus 7, but I found the screen to thin for reading on.
Might give this a go now.
Thanks :cyclops:

wow nice, have u rooted ur note 8?

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Just a very dumb question, does this thing come with jellybean 4.1 or 4.2

draftbeer89 said:
Just a very dumb question, does this thing come with jellybean 4.1 or 4.2
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Not a dumb question at all. It comes with 4.1.2 but a leaked 4.2.2 package is now available, which is what I'm running (rooted) with no trouble.

As a quick update I have noticed that using the power saving feature significantly increases the screen in time. In power save I average 7-8 hours on screen time surfing the web. Turning off power save mode decreases the battery by about an hour.
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Uh60m Pilot said:
As a quick update I have noticed that using the power saving feature significantly increases the screen in time. In power save I average 7-8 hours on screen time surfing the web. Turning off power save mode decreases the battery by about an hour.
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What settings were you using in power saving mode. Did you only have screen power saving on only? if so, thats impressive. if you had cpu power saving on as well, then i would expect to see a good 10% additional battery life under continual use as the CPU is limited to 1100MHz rather than the usual 1600MHz.

Still scouring for news on n7 refresh. Although the main thing why I like to get this note 8 is the s pen future. Any other devices offering similar feautures ? Or as add one? Review on note 8 with s pen is very few and even after trying many-many time at the shop I am not convinced that this is the best solution
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hertsjoatmon said:
What settings were you using in power saving mode. Did you only have screen power saving on only? if so, thats impressive. if you had cpu power saving on as well, then i would expect to see a good 10% additional battery life under continual use as the CPU is limited to 1100MHz rather than the usual 1600MHz.
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When I use power save mode on I almost always have all 3 settings selected. I have not noticed a decrease in performance. The only time I run with the full processor is when I am multitasking or using photo shop and trying to check XDA etc. I am also running stock.

I, too, switched from a Nexus 7 to a Note 8.0. I have the AT&T model with LTE (got the promotion price at $199 on contract). I can honestly say that, other than the immediate updates that you get with a Google-built ROM on a Nexus, I don't miss the N7 at all. The Note 8.0 is a definite upgrade in terms of hardware. It's fast, Touchwiz is easily the best Android skin (and there are a number of things I'd love to see Google implement into the stock UI), and I love having LTE on the tablet.
Overall I'm a happy camper.

Uh60m Pilot said:
When I use power save mode on I almost always have all 3 settings selected. I have not noticed a decrease in performance. The only time I run with the full processor is when I am multitasking or using photo shop and trying to check XDA etc. I am also running stock.
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Im pretty much the same. I only take it off power saving if i know im playing high requirement games (real racing, horn, modern combat etc etc).
I would turn it off for drawing apps as well as i imagine that once you have built up a few layers and have used a few different pens it would start to takes its toll and id like my lines to be drawn as fast as possible with no lag. saying that, ive not had a chance to draw all month as ive been camping, had my girlfriends mums birhtday, my girlfriends birthday and this weekend, my mums birthday and have been out pretty much every day.

Galaxy Note 2 and now 8.0 overkill?

I've been looking at tablets for the past month as I'm taking college courses (yes I'm 40 but close to being done) thus fall. Like all over you I feel I've owned almost every tablet other than the Windows platforms.
My desires were nice screen, note taking ability, nice sound, expandability, and some longevity.
My favorite of the ipads androids was the Galaxy Note 10.1. The wacom stylus and speed were super. I got rid of it because it felt a little big and I would forget it when I needed it.
I thought hard about the Surface especially with the price cut, but I have an i5 laptop so it seemed redundant. The new Nexus sure has a great speed camera and sound. But no expandability and not feasible to take notes. But it would do nothing more than be an entertainment device and I own a Galaxy Note 2 that does that pretty well.
So last night after weeks of reviews and pluses and minuses I found a GN 8.0 for 300.00 with free ship and brand new in box. I just jumped on impulse and bought it.
My issues with the 10.1 was it was large and a fuzzy screen. So I am thinking the GN 8.0 the screen should be less fuzzy as less real estate but big enough to take notes and hopefully small enough to remember.
Then this morning I woke up and realized I just spent 300.00 on a 3 inch bigger Note.
The deal itself is a good one. The question is after this long story is Have I over killed the Note by getting just a little bit bigger???
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I think the Note 2 and 8.0 compliment each other nicely. I currently use both, and despite what some think about the "phablet," it's definitely a phone. Reading, web browsing, video watching, and many other experiences are much better on a larger display. You made a great choice IMO.
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I sold my note 2 and ipad 4 and replaced them both with the note 8 n5100 with sim, so far im very pleased the note 8 does everything, ive got a 64gb sd card, my vodaphone sim so i can surf text and take calls everywhere on just one device, without tethering or messing about, i swapped to the note 8 as one device as a test, but even with some great phablets due out at the end of this year surrendering my note 8 for a smaller faster phablet will still be a hard to do.
My previous favourite was also the note 10.1, but i now prefer my note 8!
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worth it/
I believe as long as you do some mods to the note 8.0 its worth keeping. First change the layout to tablet not the phablet form it comes with. Then a nice change of launcher and I believe its very useful. Synch them both up to each other and you have a useable note taking tablet with lots of memory. I have imported 4 school books into Snote and works very well. The screen is a good enough size to do reading and the note taking is much better on the 8 then it ever was on the note 2. I use note 2 to take down numbers and little hints but as a study instrument the note 8.0 is only choice is you need stylus.
sdelliott31 said:
I've been looking at tablets for the past month as I'm taking college courses (yes I'm 40 but close to being done) thus fall. Like all over you I feel I've owned almost every tablet other than the Windows platforms.
My desires were nice screen, note taking ability, nice sound, expandability, and some longevity.
My favorite of the ipads androids was the Galaxy Note 10.1. The wacom stylus and speed were super. I got rid of it because it felt a little big and I would forget it when I needed it.
I thought hard about the Surface especially with the price cut, but I have an i5 laptop so it seemed redundant. The new Nexus sure has a great speed camera and sound. But no expandability and not feasible to take notes. But it would do nothing more than be an entertainment device and I own a Galaxy Note 2 that does that pretty well.
So last night after weeks of reviews and pluses and minuses I found a GN 8.0 for 300.00 with free ship and brand new in box. I just jumped on impulse and bought it.
My issues with the 10.1 was it was large and a fuzzy screen. So I am thinking the GN 8.0 the screen should be less fuzzy as less real estate but big enough to take notes and hopefully small enough to remember.
Then this morning I woke up and realized I just spent 300.00 on a 3 inch bigger Note.
The deal itself is a good one. The question is after this long story is Have I over killed the Note by getting just a little bit bigger???
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Changing mode to tablet mode? Is thus a setting or a mod which you need to be rooted?
A lot to catch up once I get the tablet.
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Most apps see the note 8 as a tablet, but if you get apex launcher it has a setting to turn the launcher into a tablet layout
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I'm interested in this as well how do you do this?
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janjannsen99 said:
I'm interested in this as well how do you do this?
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Changing mode to tablet mode? Is thus a setting or a mod which you need to be rooted?
A lot to catch up once I get the tablet.
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You change the dpi in the build.prop to 160 (and below) and that kicks the tablet UI into play.
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cj31016 said:
I think the Note 2 and 8.0 compliment each other nicely. I currently use both, and despite what some think about the "phablet," it's definitely a phone. Reading, web browsing, video watching, and many other experiences are much better on a larger display. You made a great choice IMO.
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Totally agree. Lol, and I did the same as the OP, bought my note 8 on a whim because I found a good deal, then wondered if I had made a mistake 2 hours later. I can say I don't regret my purchase one bit. For me the note 2 is a PERFECT phone. Great performance, great battery life, and what I now consider to be an ideal size screen for a phone. That being said, I find the note 2 useless for taking any kind of notes. The only time I use the spen is for annotating the odd photo. I just find it a little too small (especially for a lefty) to be as quick or efficient as a pen and paper. When I tried a bit of note taking on the note 8, it was a night and day difference. As far as the screen, it won't make you say "wow" like an htc one , but you probably won't be disappointed with it either. I would describe it as perfectly acceptable. I don't think you'll regret your purchase.
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Note 8 and note 2
I have both and am very happy with them. I use the note 8 to take notes at lectures and my note 2 for calls and entertainment.

Thanks to all. After thinking it to death and obsessing finally some common sense crept in. I love my Note 2 and use it all the time but mainly for texting and looking at fb and YouTube. I may use the stylus once a month but wouldn't trade my phone. I have a 64gb sandisk with tons of movies yet never watch them. Oooh. I love taking pictures with this phone. So easy and good quality.
I am so thinking the movies ebooks and stylus use will increase with the Note 8.0.
Thanks for talking me off the ledge a bit. The one thing that resonated from people here and other threads is the nexus 7 is solid but almost too small while the 8.0 was bigger but not 10.1 or notebook big. That's kind of what went through my mind when I made the purchase.
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I was on the wall for 20 days thinking should i buy the note 8 when i have the note 2....lol... At last got it. .... But I would have loved only wifi model... It would have been cheaper, here in India you only get the 3g+wifi model... still, no regrets
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pakure said:
I was on the wall for 20 days thinking should i buy the note 8 when i have the note 2....lol... At last got it. .... But I would have loved only wifi model... It would have been cheaper, here in India you only get the 3g+wifi model... still, no regrets
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That's quite weird, coz the 3G+ Wi-Fi model seems to be as rare as hens teeth here in the UK, at least it was when I got mine a couple of weeks ago, the one I have now was imported from India.
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I have an OG Note and the Note 8, and I can safely say it's not overkill. I love both, and there is some overlap, but for the most part, I use the devices very differently.

I have both the Note II and 8. The Note II has always been handy in my daily commute, and the Note 8 when you sit to do a bit of work or at home.
At times needed, I connect the II onto a projector, and with RemoDroid mirror-cast whatever I have on my Note 8's screen. It's great for presentations and drawing demonstrations. There's a bit of stutter, but it works.
Android is so much better than the competition.
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lwsoccjs said:
I believe as long as you do some mods to the note 8.0 its worth keeping. First change the layout to tablet not the phablet form it comes with. Then a nice change of launcher and I believe its very useful. Synch them both up to each other and you have a useable note taking tablet with lots of memory. I have imported 4 school books into Snote and works very well. The screen is a good enough size to do reading and the note taking is much better on the 8 then it ever was on the note 2. I use note 2 to take down numbers and little hints but as a study instrument the note 8.0 is only choice is you need stylus.
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How do you change the layout to Tablet?
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Well you can either change the DPI or tablet or just download the app note 8 mode switcher and use that its pretty simple and straight forward its In The boards I think under apps and themes.
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How do you change the layout to Tablet?
Thanks
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I've got a 6 inch phone too but I use the note 8 more. When on wifi I use it as my phone as well to make calls and text. I don't mind having both. My son is happy because he can hog my phone now though. If you're wondering I imported a pantech Vega 6 from Korea.
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guys..i noted that my note 8 does not get charged with my note 2 charger though it works the other way around...i get an X on the battery symbol and the battery in settings shows discharging status..

pakure said:
guys..i noted that my note 8 does not get charged with my note 2 charger though it works the other way around...i get an X on the battery symbol and the battery in settings shows discharging status..
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Check the current rating on the chargers, though it's interesting that your note 2 charger is different from your note 8 charger. The ones packaged with my devices were both identical 2a Samsung units.
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my problems with this tablet.

i have 3 things that i find utterly annoying with this tablet.
1. it seems that while in drawing with sketchbook pro, the button on the s pen gets in the way, idk if i just cant figure out how, but it needs an option to turn off the button.
2. the sounds removing the s pen(at least for me) kinda suck, would like the option to add custom sounds.
3.this is just a toss in one, but when i got my tablet, the right botton corner was up, like it hadnt been put together from the factory, after about 10 min about gentle coaxing it snapped back into place, but come on samsung... 600 for a tablet with out of the box defects?? not a big issue though

I agree. I had the original 10.1 & loved it but I sold it in hopes of getting this new 10.1 or the surface pro. Glad I didn't get the new 10.1. Then some people complain of lag on it. I guess it's all the bloatware Samsung has running on it. Good luck either way.
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You should be able to replace the pen sound once root is available. My original Note 10.1 does the lightsaber sound. People at work get a kick out of it. You basically use a root enabled file explorer and replace the sound files. Pretty straight forward.
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Arun01 said:
I agree. I had the original 10.1 & loved it but I sold it in hopes of getting this new 10.1 or the surface pro. Glad I didn't get the new 10.1. Then some people complain of lag on it. I guess it's all the bloatware Samsung has running on it. Good luck either way.
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I went with the new Note 10.1. My wife is getting a 256GB Surface Pro 2. Something tells me she is going to have the better experience.

After the second update a few days ago it's butter smooth now.
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Arun01 said:
I agree. I had the original 10.1 & loved it but I sold it in hopes of getting this new 10.1 or the surface pro. Glad I didn't get the new 10.1. Then some people complain of lag on it. I guess it's all the bloatware Samsung has running on it. Good luck either way.
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havent had the lag problems, the last update fixed that, now its buttery smooth

Stocklone said:
You should be able to replace the pen sound once root is available. My original Note 10.1 does the lightsaber sound. People at work get a kick out of it. You basically use a root enabled file explorer and replace the sound files. Pretty straight forward.
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I went with the new Note 10.1. My wife is getting a 256GB Surface Pro 2. Something tells me she is going to have the better experience.
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She will, until she tries getting apps to do stuff or really customizing her experience. The Surface Pro 2 is a diesel device, but I hate the Windows 8 mobile ecosystem.

Windows...hmm where have I heard this name before?
Im thinking about Note 10.1 2014, but I wanna see if Google will annouce a new 10in tab on 24th, because I rather get that.
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krazor8x said:
i have 3 things that i find utterly annoying with this tablet.
1. it seems that while in drawing with sketchbook pro, the button on the s pen gets in the way, idk if i just cant figure out how, but it needs an option to turn off the button.
I'd highly recommend upgrading your S Pen. I ordered and just received my Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel. The difference is night and day, the weight, size and feel is much better. The button is almost flush too. I got it just for Sketchbook and really makes a difference.
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I'd highly recommend upgrading your S Pen. I ordered and just received my Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel. The difference is night and day, the weight, size and feel is much better. The button is almost flush too. I got it just for Sketchbook and really makes a difference.
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Hack-Master said:
krazor8x said:
i have 3 things that i find utterly annoying with this tablet.
1. it seems that while in drawing with sketchbook pro, the button on the s pen gets in the way, idk if i just cant figure out how, but it needs an option to turn off the button.
I'd highly recommend upgrading your S Pen. I ordered and just received my Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel. The difference is night and day, the weight, size and feel is much better. The button is almost flush too. I got it just for Sketchbook and really makes a difference.
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I'd highly recommend upgrading your S Pen. I ordered and just received my Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel. The difference is night and day, the weight, size and feel is much better. The button is almost flush too. I got it just for Sketchbook and really makes a difference.
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I've heard there was some offset issue with the Bamboo Stylus Feel, are you not running into that issue? Also which model did you get (color)?
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EvoYas said:
Windows...hmm where have I heard this name before?
Im thinking about Note 10.1 2014, but I wanna see if Google will annouce a new 10in tab on 24th, because I rather get that.
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Ask yourself if you will use the s-pen at all. If the answer is no, wait it out or just get the current Nexus 10. If the answer is yes, get this. The screen is GORGEOUS, it runs really well, and feels INCREDIBLE in the hands. I don't care what comes out on the 24th, I will not regret this (and I could 100% return this tab if something does come out).

EvoYas said:
Windows...hmm where have I heard this name before?
Im thinking about Note 10.1 2014, but I wanna see if Google will annouce a new 10in tab on 24th, because I rather get that.
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Also rumor is that there isn't any hardware being released on the 24th event.

An announcement will be good enough, and if stuff does become available to purchase, that is just icing on the cake for me.
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Hack-Master said:
I've heard there was some offset issue with the Bamboo Stylus Feel, are you not running into that issue? Also which model did you get (color)?
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I did notice some offset. The offset for me is when I have the pen angled. Depending on how you hold will determine the offset. The s pen does seems more accurate. But the Wacom feels better in hand. I haven't done any detail work with the wacom, just loose sketches. I could see using both. I know there is the Samsung version, maybe that one doesn't offset as much, not sure. I was gonna order one to test out.
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EvoYas said:
An announcement will be good enough, and if stuff does become available to purchase, that is just icing on the cake for me.
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There isn't supposed to be any hardware announcement either.

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Ask yourself if you will use the s-pen at all. If the answer is no, wait it out or just get the current Nexus 10. If the answer is yes, get this. The screen is GORGEOUS, it runs really well, and feels INCREDIBLE in the hands. I don't care what comes out on the 24th, I will not regret this (and I could 100% return this tab if something does come out).
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I don't think it's that simple. I like stock Android and all but I worry about stability and quality control issues with nexus 10 tabets. I hope I'm wrong for others sake but I had a bad experience with the last nexus 10. Bad light bleed on two of them and crashing issues. I went into purchasing thinking was was not going to use the Spen that much but man am I glad it's there. It's just nice. Plus I'm really digging all the extras like the dual apps in split screen for example.

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I don't think it's that simple. I like stock Android and all but I worry about stability and quality control issues with nexus 10 tabets. I hope I'm wrong for others sake but I had a bad experience with the last nexus 10. Bad light bleed on two of them and crashing issues. I went into purchasing thinking was was not going to use the Spen that much but man am I glad it's there. It's just nice. Plus I'm really digging all the extras like the dual apps in split screen for example.
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Fair point. Even when custom ROMs come out I'm not going to put AOSP on here because I really like the Samsung extras. I'm really amazed at this tab. It's phenomenal all around. We get something like hyperdrive or Revolution HD and it'll be spotless.

Also, I hope people are taking advantage of the Samsung app "Watch On" that came installed.
Uses the ir blaster to change the volume and channels with a cable guide that you can just press what you want to watch and it changes it for you. Also if you have a newer smart TV you can watch what you are watching on TV on your tablet. It's like magic lol. I have my tv, cable box, AV receiver, and blu ray player all set up a land It's makes for an awesome experience

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Hack-Master said:
I've heard there was some offset issue with the Bamboo Stylus Feel, are you not running into that issue? Also which model did you get (color)?
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i got the wifi 32gb black, im running the stock s-pen, and i have no offset issue. as for the bamboo, thats in the mail coming straight for me
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My new GN's screen flips over unsmoothly, anyone have the same problem?

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Also, I hope people are taking advantage of the Samsung app "Watch On" that came installed.
Uses the ir blaster to change the volume and channels with a cable guide that you can just press what you want to watch and it changes it for you. Also if you have a newer smart TV you can watch what you are watching on TV on your tablet. It's like magic lol. I have my tv, cable box, AV receiver, and blu ray player all set up a land It's makes for an awesome experience
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I found this application to be just awful. I ended up using "Smart Remote" as I just could not stand the interface. I don't have cable, just a media center, so giving me all sorts of info on whats on TV is useless. I wish there was a way to turn that stuff off, as I may use it then.

Am I the only one getting the Tab Pro 10.1?

The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?

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The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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I'm getting the 8.4. Why are you choosing the 10.1 pro over the Note 10.1 2014 (as it's on sale and I owned that tablet and liked it).

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The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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I'm waiting for the lte version of either the 10.1 or the 8.4
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I very much interested in the 10.1 I'm just waiting for it to drop in the states
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I'm getting the 8.4. Why are you choosing the 10.1 pro over the Note 10.1 2014 (as it's on sale and I owned that tablet and liked it).
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I missed the Groupon sale, would've definitely got it if it was still available, or it's on sale at different places now?

Jackson.Armstrong.Blow said:
I very much interested in the 10.1 I'm just waiting for it to drop in the states
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It's going to be released today in the states, pre-orders were up for some time on Amazon and BestBuy.

I have pre-ordered the 8.4 through Amazon, but since I purchased black instead of white it's been delayed until Feb 19.
I have had a Nexus 7 (too small) and an iPad (too big). I think the 8.4 is the sweet spot. In my opinion this tablet far exceeds the iPad mini at the same price point.

Just picked up the Tab Pro 10.1 Black, 16gb. I have a note 10.1. I did not upgrade to the Note 10.1 2014 because I don't like the way it does multi-windows compared to the original 10.1. On the Tab Pro the new multi-windows setup is far nicer.
Currently, the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab Pro 10.1 are both $499. tough decision. Don't really care about the pen, but the Note 10.1 2014 does have 3gb ram vs 2gb. Same CPU.
Wonder if the Note 10.1 2014 will get the new gui with 4.4.2?

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Just picked up the Tab Pro 10.1 Black, 16gb. I have a note 10.1. I did not upgrade to the Note 10.1 2014 because I don't like the way it does multi-windows compared to the original 10.1. On the Tab Pro the new multi-windows setup is far nicer.
Currently, the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab Pro 10.1 are both $499. tough decision. Don't really care about the pen, but the Note 10.1 2014 does have 3gb ram vs 2gb. Same CPU.
Wonder if the Note 10.1 2014 will get the new gui with 4.4.2?
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How is the performance on the Tab Pro 10.1? with the whole new Magazine UX and Android 4.4, is it smoother than the Note 10.1 2014? C'mon, give us a more detailed review

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How is the performance on the Tab Pro 10.1? with the whole new Magazine UX and Android 4.4, is it smoother than the Note 10.1 2014? C'mon, give us a more detailed review
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I've really barely used it yet. Also, apparently there is no root yet, but I suspect that won't take long. But, that has hinder me in playing with the new multi-windows, outside of what it can do stock (making my other apps multi-window and such). Also, I only had the Note 10.1 2014 for a day or two before deciding I prefered my original Note 10.1.
The new multi-windows is certainly nicer than on the Note 10.1 2014. They open in a cascade view that is resizable. (this can be done with addons with the 10.1 2014). While you can change to full screen, like the 10.1 2014, once full screen there is no way offered to go back to windowed.
Coming from the original Note10.1, which I chose to keep over the 2014 model, and with the help of Multi-Windows Manager 3rd party app, I can make any app multi window capable and they all get the icon in full screen that allows you to return to windowed mode. This is a peev of mine. Your milage may vary.
At any rate, until I can root and install a 3rd party multi window app, I will not know how much will be changed.
I can't compare it to the note 10.1 2014 for performance, but I can't say I notice lag.
As to benchmarks, as worthwhile as they are (I can only compare against original Note 10.1):
Quadrant Free: Tab Pro: 17857 Note 10.1: 6000
Antutu: Tab Pro: 33970 Note 10.1: 15861
I like the new gui far better than god awful touchwiz, which I always replaced with Nova Launcher. Magazine UX or whatever this launcher is called has special screen pages that use special widgets. The news selections appear to use Flipboard, which is an "uninstallable" app.
When I have used it more, I shall report findings.
Edit 1:
Just remembered, I had tried 2 of the Note 10.1 2014...first had a case defect. With both, and as many others have reported, my existing bluetooth keyboard would continually be disconnecting and reconnecting. I can happily report I am not experiencing this issue with the same bt keyboard.
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Booted up with no apps running, memory cleared from task manager, you already have 1.17gb of your usable 1.72gb total is in use. I do understand android memory usage and am not stating this as a problem. But it often comes up.
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Not sure I will be rushing back into Nova or any other alternative launcher. I'm kind of liking this. Not perfect, but pretty nice. TBH, If I knew the Note 10.1 2014 was getting this update along with kitkat, I would highly consider exchanging this for it.
Edit4: Have been using it for a few hours now. Unless 3rd party, root-required apps change it a lot, samsung seems to have decided to degrade the functionailty of multi-windows since the original Note 10.1. While better that in the note 2014, still leaves me missing my old tab :-\

I was going to get the 10.1 pro but I got the 8.4 instead. I like the portability and I wanted something to closely fit the same size of my iPad mini with retina. I must say I think the iPad might have to find a new home because I am really loving Samsung whole new ui and it's pretty dam snappy and fast

I wanted the Tab 8.4, but after looking at it's battery size and probable run time, I decided to get the Tab pro 10.1 which has almost twice the battery capacity and claimed 9 hr run time.

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I wanted the Tab 8.4, but after looking at it's battery size and probable run time, I decided to get the Tab pro 10.1 which has almost twice the battery capacity and claimed 9 hr run time.
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I have not checked but if you prefer 8.4, I suggest checking battery times vs mAh. The 8.4 battery is smaller, but so is the battery sucking screen

Barsky said:
I have not checked but if you prefer 8.4, I suggest checking battery times vs mAh. The 8.4 battery is smaller, but so is the battery sucking screen
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Hey man,
Congrats on the 10.1 purchase, stuck between this and the note 10 2014 myself....
I dont think I'd use the s pen after the novelty has worn off and there is quite a bit of difference in weight.
How are you finding the Pro 10.1? Any issues? How is the battery life?
Sorry for the questions but I'm sure there are others wanting to find out the same info
EDIT - Anybody else that has purchased the Pro 10, please feel free to chime in

Can't really judge battery time yet. First couple days you tend to mess with it more than normal . I did have some concern yesterday, but am holding off judging.

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Can't really judge battery time yet. First couple days you tend to mess with it more than normal . I did have some concern yesterday, but am holding off judging.
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GSMarena just posted a review of the 10.1...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_10_1-review-1044.php
Looks like I'll be getting the Tab Pro 10.1, 70g lighter plus pretty awesome battery life compared to the Note 10 2014.....
Now when is it coming out in Australia???

jonlad1 said:
GSMarena just posted a review of the 10.1...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_10_1-review-1044.php
Looks like I'll be getting the Tab Pro 10.1, 70g lighter plus pretty awesome battery life compared to the Note 10 2014.....
Now when is it coming out in Australia???
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Actually meant to get back here and post that under more normal use, battery life seems good.
Will check out the review. Thanks

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Actually meant to get back here and post that under more normal use, battery life seems good.
Will check out the review. Thanks
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Do you have any battery screen shots? What kind of usage did you put the device through?
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Well, my Tab Pro 10.1 will reach my US address by Monday and then it will take a week or so to reach my country here (Egypt), will do a detailed review with videos as soon as I lay my hands on it.

I cracked the screen on my Nexus 10 and Squaretrade can't fix it so they are sending me $500. Was going to go out and buy the tab pro 10.1 today until I realized Best Buy only has a 16GB model. Looks like 32GB isn't out yet anywhere. Boo. I tried doing some googling but can't find out when 32GB will be released. It looks like it's planned at least. Anyone know when?

From Nexus 10 to Note Pro 12.2

Hi folks,
I currently own a Google Nexus 10, which I love to death, but a few things are starting to annoy me:
1. Battery doesn't last too long with screen on*, and loses charge on standby.
2. Takes forever to charge to 100% even with Pogo cable.
3. Slower than my Note 2 phone.
4. Gets hot to the touch in a certain corner (where the GPU is) while playing RR3*
I run a custom ROM (Omni), but I doubt this is the reason, as I've used CM11, PacROM, and the problems persist.
So, I'm strongly considering the Note Pro 12.2 WiFi to replace it in the future.
What do owners of Nexus 10 think of the upgrade? Was it worth it, considering it's a rather expensive device?
* - then again, I'm a RR3 addict, which chews through battery like candy.

I still have my N10, gave it to my dad to replace his aging Toshiba Thrive. The 12.2 (SM-P900) is definitely faster. Screen is just as sharp. Much much better battery life, and faster charging. The N10 is incredibly light in comparison though. The Samsung keyboard is a joy to use. Multi window and floating windows are nice as well. For my particular usage, it was a great upgrade.
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Love my Note 12.2 and the N10 now feels like a toy. Can't imagine going back... N10 just sold on ebay today!

Also worth noting is that the 12.2 will still charge, albeit slowly, while playing intensive games [emoji106]
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Also worth noting is that the 12.2 will still charge, albeit slowly, while playing intensive games [emoji106]
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Custom kernel fixed that problem right up!
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If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button.

aslo you can do more with the note 12.2 such as multiwindow and the styles feature too. Since i got my note 12.2 i actually do most of my work in the device and it actually replaces my laptop needs since it have all the feture the laptop can offer. and the remote PC helps if I need to do anything from my laptop on the go
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Android.Ninja said:
Custom kernel fixed that problem right up!
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You made your own kernel for the 12.2? or are you referring to a N10 Kernel

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You made your own kernel for the 12.2? or are you referring to a N10 Kernel
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Working on my own trying to iron out all of the bugs.
Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!
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Just let my nexus 10 go and I'm loving the 12.2 so far!
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Its been along time since I sold my n10 and im trading my note 3 ( much too small for me anyway for the note pro 12.2 tomorrow and looking forward to it . I already own the samsung pro 8.4 and the 2014 note 10.1 and will probably keep the 8.4 and 12.2. I did notice there are no Roms for the 12.2. I am running cm11 on the 8.4 pro and Hashcheck hybrid on the note 10.1 and really hope some developers jump in board with the large tablet soon !!
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I'll let you know when it arrives. I'm actually coming from an old he TouchPad I got in the firesale years ago lol
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Thanks for the post, poster! Just bought my 12.2 yesterday, definitely worth it! ?
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