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Between a rock and a hard place...

Hello all,
I need some advice concerning my Nex4. As many people have experienced, I also have a slightly buzzing earpiece and now I'm in doubt whether to use my warranty and get a new one or not.
Since I live in Holland I got my Nex4 through someone else from a store in Germany, about 1 - 1,5 hours away to reach it if I want a new one. Since I'm 15 and not able to get there myself I'll probably will need to go through some quarreling with my parents to get them to driving me there.
The issue is that I'm not sure if I want to go through all those things, since the problem doesn't actually bother me. I can make good quality calls with a little of buzzing which I don't mind and I'm happy with my battery life: 3-4 hours of screen time on 1,5 days with medium usage.
I hope you can give me some counsel. Thanks in advance!
By the way, when I'm studying in silence I sometimes seem to be able to actually hear some high-pitched sounds, which I do mind, but I guess that's partially a placebo effect.
Sent from my beloved Nexus 4

I just got a REV 11 device. it still makes the nose, albeit slightly quieter. With that said, these phones have build quality issues and getting a new one might be more hassle than it's worth. My REV 11 device has a slightly worse screen than my REV10 (lots of streaks on the the grey scale). Just keep that in mind.

Wait, REV 10 and 11? Did you already do this many RMAs or did I misunderstood the meaning of the word ^^?
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You misunderstand the word, REV is for hardware revision, a new revision comes with small changes. I got a REV 11 device and it's my first one.
Also keep in mind, you don't know if your replacement device is going to be any better.

Ah, thanks, any idea if I could check my REV?
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Remcotjuuh said:
Ah, thanks, any idea if I could check my REV?
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Reboot into bootlader mode & it will tell your hardware rev.

I'm on unrooted stock. Any dangers and how to do it?
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Remcotjuuh said:
I'm on unrooted stock. Any dangers and how to do it?
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There is no danger in booting into fastboot made & checking the info. IIRC with the phone off hold volue down & power at the same time.

Thanks, I've got REV 11. I guess I'll stick with it.
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Honestly you answered your own question if you can live with it. .
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joshnichols189 said:
Honestly you answered your own question if you can live with it. .
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As stated in the OP I asked for counsel, not answers. With the given advices I was planning to decide for myself, which I did.
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Does anyone have REV 12?

[Q] Nexus 4 - now or wait

Hi guys,
thanks for lending me ur precious time towards my thread. I am out in the market to get a phone, lets say a smartphone..
And the only one that could impress me was the NEXUS 4 !!!
But the problem is , I live i India, and the phone hasnt released here...but yet a few websites. like ebay are selling 'em..
Is the device awesome? Compared to HTC One x+??
And is it capable of handling all future apps??
And last one, should i get a phone now or shud i wait...??
THANK YOU...Regards

bought the device 2 days ago .........
first impression :- design and feel = great
turned it on was dissapointed as the display was washed out as i came from amoled note screen ...... but fixed it with kernelsa and the brightness was too good in sunlight
started liking it alot
but suddenly started using 3G and phone got crazy hot in low signal and even normal signal
so hot that i couldnt take calls
the performance is the best but its a phone first so im returning mine
these problems can be fixed using kernels but i still wont be keeping it :/

Shreyas Iyer said:
Hi guys,
thanks for lending me ur precious time towards my thread. I am out in the market to get a phone, lets say a smartphone..
And the only one that could impress me was the NEXUS 4 !!!
But the problem is , I live i India, and the phone hasnt released here...but yet a few websites. like ebay are selling 'em..
Is the device awesome? Compared to HTC One x+??
And is it capable of handling all future apps??
And last one, should i get a phone now or shud i wait...??
THANK YOU...Regards
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I would wait until google io next wednesday to see if they announce an updated nexus 4, and then make your decision. Prices may go down on the original nexus 4 if they do.
Is the device awesome? I would say its the real google android experience, always first to get updates. So many roms/kernels to flash or you could just stay stock. Its really your decision, but more importantly I'd make sure you get good coverage with a nexus 4 in your area.

hbksabhi said:
bought the device 2 days ago .........
First impression :- design and feel = great
turned it on was dissapointed as the display was washed out as i came from amoled note screen ...... But fixed it with kernelsa and the brightness was too good in sunlight
started liking it alot
but suddenly started using 3g and phone got crazy hot in low signal and even normal signal
so hot that i couldnt take calls
the performance is the best but its a phone first so im returning mine
these problems can be fixed using kernels but i still wont be keeping it :/
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thanks a lot

I'm supposed to pick up mine on 15th. Can't keep an eye on the keynote due to time-zone difference.
I don't give a rat's a$$ about LTE support and 32gb storage so my question is: should I postpone the pickup date to 16th of May? Are there any features other than LTE & 32gb storage Google might have up it's sleeve?
A price drop seems kinda irrelevant too because it'll probably take weeks after the announcement for the prices to decrease in retail stores.
Appreciating any advice.

weeks? retail stores?
google playstore

Ordered mine 2-days ago.. I doubt we will see anything from Google l/0 re: a new Nexus..
I'd assume we would have heard rumors by now as Google is not very good at keeping secrets..

SysAdmNj said:
weeks? retail stores?
google playstore
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It's not available in my hinterland country :silly:
Too lazy to play around with proxy stuff.
raqball said:
Ordered mine 2-days ago.. I doubt we will see anything from Google l/0 re: a new Nexus..
I'd assume we would have heard rumors by now as Google is not very good at keeping secrets..
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Let's hope it's only a minor update :fingers-crossed:

Let's just say if 4.3 gets announced at I/O your phone the N4 will get it before any other non Nexus device. If the latest and greatest software is one of your needs the N4 will be a very good bet.

I'm interested in this too as I just received my N4. I haven't even opening the shipping box yet because I don't know if I should start using the phone or wait until I/O....if I open the phone box I get charged a restocking fee if I return it. I move to the UK in 2 weeks so I'm not even sure if LTE matters as it's quite expensive there. But, I am really more interested in a price drop in the 16GB.
Recommend waiting or just going for it?

dhawk312 said:
I'm interested in this too as I just received my N4. I haven't even opening the shipping box yet because I don't know if I should start using the phone or wait until I/O....if I open the phone box I get charged a restocking fee if I return it. I move to the UK in 2 weeks so I'm not even sure if LTE matters as it's quite expensive there. But, I am really more interested in a price drop in the 16GB.
Recommend waiting or just going for it?
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I am by no means an expert nor do I have any inside knowledge but I doubt the 16GB will get a price drop even if they release an refreshed Nexus 4..
I just ordered one a few days ago and as soon as it arrives I am cracking that box open..
Plus, since you just bought it, I am sure if Google did announce a price drop you could call and get some sort of credit for the price difference..
My .02

raqball said:
Ordered mine 2-days ago.. I doubt we will see anything from Google l/0 re: a new Nexus..
I'd assume we would have heard rumors by now as Google is not very good at keeping secrets..
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What happen to the laggy s4

SysAdmNj said:
What happen to the laggy s4
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Gave it to my son! And he LOVES it...
:good: :good: :good:

raqball said:
Gave it to my son! And he LOVES it...
:good: :good: :good:
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Noiicce
You'll enjoy the nexus 4 if you dont expect a whole lot. Battery life definitely not as good as s4 but I still came back to it.

SysAdmNj said:
Noiicce
You'll enjoy the nexus 4 if you dont expect a whole lot. Battery life definitely not as good as s4 but I still came back to it.
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He came from a Galaxy S2 Skyrocket so he does not even notice the lag..

After the nexus and using it for two days i love it for its pure experience and performance but it heats up a lot according to my liking so going to return it if i can
After other phones go
S4 - dont like touch wiz and late updates
But i certainly love samoled and the octa core laggy
Htc one - bad button placements allround from power to home buttons and lack of detail in camera
I dont know which way to go even if i return the n4

Unlock the boot loader, root it and install a custom kernel and say goodbye to extreme heat.
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Thinking of buying N4

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a N4 in a month or so, and just wanted to ask for your opinions and thoughts about this phone. Thanks

DarkLP said:
Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a N4 in a month or so, and just wanted to ask for your opinions and thoughts about this phone. Thanks
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Worth the $350 I paid for it. Nice screen. Feels solid in hand. Performs well. Oh and its a nexus.
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i personally own a htc one s and thought about buying a nexus 4 as well. i think its a great phone with great hardware and a nice design. especially the white one looks fantastic in my opinion. the only thing i dont like that much is the backside of it.. i dont like the glass there, thats why i will wait for the hopefully soon releasibg nexus 5
cheers
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robin216 said:
i personally own a htc one s and thought about buying a nexus 4 as well. i think its a great phone with great hardware and a nice design. especially the white one looks fantastic in my opinion. the only thing i dont like that much is the backside of it.. i dont like the glass there, thats why i will wait for the hopefully soon releasibg nexus 5
cheers
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Define "soon" . you may be waiting until around November or so. I think the back glass itself is sleek as all hell. I'm just afraid of breaking it. So I put it in a case where I don't get to enjoy its beauty.
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i am praying every evening that google release it the next day
yes, i would also use a case, but the back of the n4 is too nice :/
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Here's what I said in a thread of someone asking if it's worth it. Basically: you should buy it.
Johmama said:
The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
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Ringke fusion has a transparent back, nice case also.
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Do it. Don't ask questions. Do it. You will NOT regret it. I've had mine for about 5 days. It's fantastic.
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You're falling further behind, get it asap and let the good times roll!

Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month

Not to mention the strong development support, if you're the adventurous type it's nearly impossible to hard-brick a Nexus.
Pure Android (AOSP) is rather nice by itself and I could live with that, but I like to go custom a bit .

DarkLP said:
Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month
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Well battery isn't as long as say a Galaxy S3 with a 7000mAh extended battery on it. The N4 uses a 2100mAh battery and depending on your usage, it could last maybe 4 hours of constant screen usage at full brightness (screen takes most the battery), or it can last over 21 with the occasional checking of facbook, emails, etc once every couple of hours.
Here's a screenshot when I finally got it down to zero percent. (it stayed idle overnight as I slept, and then I used it here and there during the day.)

AIDAKU said:
This is nexus forum...What do you expect nexus owners to tell you...
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LoL, true we may be bias, but I'll at least tell you quirks I've noticed. Even so I'd still pick an N4 unless all the other brands want to ship full AOSP at the same price and include extras like maybe a micro-SD card slot or replaceable battery . I kind of wish you could use USB-OTG without a 5V adapter, but I don't use my phone the same way I use my Tablet.

DarkLP said:
Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month
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It usually lasts me the whole day until late. I'm not constantly using it, however. I'm on all stock so you'd get much better battery running a different kernel and rom

AIDAKU said:
This is nexus forum...What do you expect nexus owners to tell you...
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Well I'm not buying a phone of any of you, so it's not like someone has to advertise it so I'd buy it. That's why I asked in N4 forum, because all of you have N4.

Basic stuff like Wifi and 3G data have hardware or driver problems. I sometimes wish I'd paid $100 more for a phone that has had more testing/QA. (Not sure there is a better phone for only $100 more, though.) I still prefer this phone to the SGS3, which has fundamentally bad OS design and poor compatibility with third party Android builds.

[Q] Considering a switch from HTC One

Hi guys
I'm considering making a switch from HTC One to S4. I just a have a few quick questions:
1. I'll be buying the I9500 version; will it support LTE in Canada and HSDPA/3G in Spain?
2. Are there any "issues" in S4 that a lot of people are being affected by? Such as the "purple tint" issue in HTC One. (Which is why I'm considering tossing my One.)
Thanks for your help guys!

1. I9500 is only 3G. Buy the international i9505 for LTE Support.
2. If you are talking about hardware problem. AFAIK only the battery swelling issue. Which is highly resolvable by claiming it to your warranty.
Note: I too came from HTC One but gave it up because of the purple tinting issue. As much as I don't want to leave my One because of its beautiful design.. I just can't stand the purple tinting issue..
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What's that purple tint issue with the one? i can't see anything wrong in the phone ...

AvelonTs said:
What's that purple tint issue with the one? i can't see anything wrong in the phone ...
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The camera sensor has a hardware problem that generates huge amounts of red and blue noise (makes it purple) in low light situations. It gets worse with time and can only be fixed by changing the sensor. It affects about 85% of Ones shipped to date according to a large poll here on xda. Mine is one of those...
The S4 camera is very good from what I know although it seems like a similar purple issue is showing up on the note 3
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ardom said:
1. I9500 is only 3G. Buy the international i9505 for LTE Support.
2. If you are talking about hardware problem. AFAIK only the battery swelling issue. Which is highly resolvable by claiming it to your warranty.
Note: I too came from HTC One but gave it up because of the purple tinting issue. As much as I don't want to leave my One because of its beautiful design.. I just can't stand the purple tinting issue..
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Thanks for your reply. I absolutely don't wanna sell my One, but I'm kinda being forced to. I bought it from the US and HTC won't honour the warranty in India
And regarding the S4, only I9500 is available in India, so that puts me in a fix, again.

Xerro-Five said:
The camera sensor has a hardware problem that generates huge amounts of red and blue noise (makes it purple) in low light situations. It gets worse with time and can only be fixed by changing the sensor. It affects about 85% of Ones shipped to date according to a large poll here on xda. Mine is one of those...
The S4 camera is very good from what I know although it seems like a similar purple issue is showing up on the note 3
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And who knows if the replacements will hold up either.. They're relatively new so no signs right now.. maybe in the future.. It's just truly disappointing.. I love my One so so much!

raghav2511 said:
And who knows if the replacements will hold up either.. They're relatively new so no signs right now.. maybe in the future.. It's just truly disappointing.. I love my One so so much!
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If you could live with the purple tinting issue. I suggest you keep your One. Then just bring along a point and shoot camera. Then maybe wait next year to buy a new phone. We both share the sentiments, if not because of that purple tint issue, I would have not given up my one. Because here in our country, there are less people who use HTC. I tend to use something that is not common but like I said I can't stand the purple tint issue. And samsung is what comes in my option next to HTC.
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raghav2511 said:
Thanks for your reply. I absolutely don't wanna sell my One, but I'm kinda being forced to. I bought it from the US and HTC won't honour the warranty in India
And regarding the S4, only I9500 is available in India, so that puts me in a fix, again.
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If camera is your concern then the i9500 has slightly better camera than i9505 ... i have the i9500 and i m a bit disappointed about it's development and no HMP after all but it's a solid device ... i don't know how now performs compared to the i9505 but when i bought it with the first firmware versions the i9500 performed slightly better in real life scenarios not bechmarks ...
Also if you re fine with stock then the only thing you ll miss is opengl 3.0 support nothing else ...
But keep in mind ... the s4 overheats more than the one ... either version

I have both the phones and love the htc one overall.Not saying s4 is bad but HTC one is 100 and s4 is like 95 to me.
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If you could live with the purple tinting issue. I suggest you keep your One. Then just bring along a point and shoot camera. Then maybe wait next year to buy a new phone. We both share the sentiments, if not because of that purple tint issue, I would have not given up my one. Because here in our country, there are less people who use HTC. I tend to use something that is not common but like I said I can't stand the purple tint issue. And samsung is what comes in my option next to HTC.
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You're probably right. I'm gonna keep it for now.
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raghav2511 said:
You're probably right. I'm gonna keep it for now.
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We'll if only i knew about this Knox Warranty crap about Samsung beforehand. I would have kept my HTC One x_x oh well. The reason why I came back to android after using an iPhone for a year was freedom. This would probably be my last Samsung device. And i'll most likely go with the nexus line... this is honestly disappointing.
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[Q] Potential Buyer

Hey guys, im thinking of getting a new phone after my disappointment with the lumia 920 and im thinking of getting the s4, g2 or the z1 and with samsung ive had some experience with the sgs and the note and i havent really had any problems with them but ive never had any exp with lg so i wanted to ask you about any COMMON problems (hardware mostly) that this phone (the international version) has because ive been reading things about the screen that frighten me. also worth mentioning is that this phone costs about 550 euros in my country and so does the z1, the s4 about 440 also the customer service is not very good so fixing or replacing the phone will be a little bit of a problem.

Nobody?

What issues have you heard about the screen? This is the best android device ive ever had plain and simple. You wont regret picking one up.

x714x said:
What issues have you heard about the screen? This is the best android device ive ever had plain and simple. You wont regret picking one up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QOMB8UTx4, and ive noticed that there arent alot of custom roms available for this phone, whats the deal with that?

First of all that issue isn't widespread. Why would you be frightened to death to buy a phone? I'm sure every phone has some kind of return policy if it has issues. Just buy it and try it out no need to be frightened don't be scared.
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samkle said:
Hey guys, im thinking of getting a new phone after my disappointment with the lumia 920 and im thinking of getting the s4, g2 or the z1 and with samsung ive had some experience with the sgs and the note and i havent really had any problems with them but ive never had any exp with lg so i wanted to ask you about any COMMON problems (hardware mostly) that this phone (the international version) has because ive been reading things about the screen that frighten me. also worth mentioning is that this phone costs about 550 euros in my country and so does the z1, the s4 about 440 also the customer service is not very good so fixing or replacing the phone will be a little bit of a problem.
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The only advantage of having the s4 over the g2 is you can flash google edition roms if you get bored of touchwiz.which also means that the s4 will probably get kitakat as a google edition update faster than other phones. If you dont care about vanilla android, stick to the g2 it trumps the s4 in every category.

shook187 said:
First of all that issue isn't widespread. Why would you be frightened to death to buy a phone? I'm sure every phone has some kind of return policy if it has issues. Just buy it and try it out no need to be frightened don't be scared.
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what about exessive overheating while gaming i know it is normal to get hot but does it get scary hot?

samkle said:
what about exessive overheating while gaming i know it is normal to get hot but does it get scary hot?
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I play heavy games on here and I haven't had any issues with overheating. Sure it gets warm. But so will every other device.
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As for the lack of ROMs, I'm quite confident that when the Nexus 5 comes out a lot of ROMs will be ported over.

samkle said:
what about exessive overheating while gaming i know it is normal to get hot but does it get scary hot?
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Where did you hear of "excessive overheating"? Literally every smartphone these days does that when you do too much hardcore gaming. At least it won't do this to you http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...the-shape-of-the-phone-on-womans-body_id42542
S800 does a nice job of throttling so it doesn't get too hot.

malek777 said:
The only advantage of having the s4 over the g2 is you can flash google edition roms if you get bored of touchwiz.which also means that the s4 will probably get kitakat as a google edition update faster than other phones. If you dont care about vanilla android, stick to the g2 it trumps the s4 in every category.
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i wouldnt get the snapdragon version of the s4 anyways, i would get the octacore which would be as getting the same port as the g2 would get from the nexus 5, or cyanogenmod which almost everyphone would get, im just worried about lg as a brand because i havent had any experience with it and those small hardware i cant really stand

I can't comment on the z1 but I had an s4 and now I have the note 3 and the g2. I am so happy with the g2 that the note 3 sits turned off in the box. The g2 is the first android phone that I have not rooted to make it better. As the saying goes if it isn't broken............
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Intub8 said:
I can't comment on the z1 but I had an s4 and now I have the note 3 and the g2. I am so happy with the g2 that the note 3 sits turned off in the box. The g2 is the first android phone that I have not rooted to make it better. As the saying goes if it isn't broken............
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what about durability, have you had any experiences with dropping or anything similar because theres only one drop test on yt and it didnt fare very well there

samkle said:
what about durability, have you had any experiences with dropping or anything similar because theres only one drop test on yt and it didnt fare very well there
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You're asking some of the silliest question that you can research yourself... Like most smartphone if you drop it you're f-ed, which is why people put them in cases and or add insurance.
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samkle said:
what about durability, have you had any experiences with dropping or anything similar because theres only one drop test on yt and it didnt fare very well there
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All the drop tests that sites conduct are complete BS. If you want a phone to survive any drop they you would've gotten a) a Nokia or b) an Armor case from Otterbox.
Simply put, if you want drop protection, buy the phone in my signature. It sucks crap at everything except for durability. And the Z1 shouldn't get any more praise than any other phone; drop it from a considerable height and you'll have a mess.

Ive owned the S4, HTC One, and S4 active (and more but those are the most current) this is by far the best I love it... The only complaint I have is it took me so many phones to find the perfect one

Is there anywhere to get the 32gb in UK, as I keep reading conflicting information about if it does have a memory card slot or not

sjm1982 said:
Is there anywhere to get the 32gb in UK, as I keep reading conflicting information about if it does have a memory card slot or not
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Only on the korean version