Hi!
I did some skype video calling lately and experienced something strange. The quality of the transmitted video was way better from Note 2 than from Note 3 in various aspects:
Concerning the front cam, I had 17 to 7 fps, a much better quality in terms of light and color of the pictures. Turning on the the quality information the Note 2 also showed a lower cpu usage (!!).
Skype version on both: 4.5.0.39600
Note 2 rooted stock ROM 4.1.2, Note 3 rooted stock 4.3 MJ7.
So, is the current skype version not as optimized for snapdragon 800 as for Exynos?
The results for the back cams were similar, but not with such drastic difference. Still higher frame rates on Note 2, a bit more "natural" picture and lower cpu usage. This was kinda disappointing. I love boths my devices, but comparing them in many aspects of everyday usage, the Note 3 is not superior to the Note 2 in all aspects! Skype is just 1 thing, there are quite some things still lacking on Note 3, UMS e.g.
So, can somebody confirm my "discoveries" in terms of skype video quality?
Anyone to bring a bit more insight into that issue?
P.S. Anything similar on Hangouts video?
Note3 sucks videocalling
Quetsch said:
Hi!
I did some skype video calling lately and experienced something strange. The quality of the transmitted video was way better from Note 2 than from Note 3 in various aspects:
Concerning the front cam, I had 17 to 7 fps, a much better quality in terms of light and color of the pictures. Turning on the the quality information the Note 2 also showed a lower cpu usage (!!).
Skype version on both: 4.5.0.39600
Note 2 rooted stock ROM 4.1.2, Note 3 rooted stock 4.3 MJ7.
So, is the current skype version not as optimized for snapdragon 800 as for Exynos?
The results for the back cams were similar, but not with such drastic difference. Still higher frame rates on Note 2, a bit more "natural" picture and lower cpu usage. This was kinda disappointing. I love boths my devices, but comparing them in many aspects of everyday usage, the Note 3 is not superior to the Note 2 in all aspects! Skype is just 1 thing, there are quite some things still lacking on Note 3, UMS e.g.
So, can somebody confirm my "discoveries" in terms of skype video quality?
Anyone to bring a bit more insight into that issue?
P.S. Anything similar on Hangouts video?
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Hi,
Any solutions for this thing here? really dissapointed with Note3 video calling this is to all applications not only in skype. video quality is bad. same goes with Xperia Z1 i changed to note 3 to eliminate the problem but only to find out that its just same freaking problem video quality so Bad.
hope someone could find a way regarding this problem. my Gf uses note 2 and way better video when we videocalling.
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Does anyone use a Note 2 prior to Note 3?
I'm interested in the quality of Note 3's camera relative to the Note 2. I've seen reviews saying that for outdoor pictures, the Note 3 quality is very good. But indoor is OK at best. To me the Note 2 camera has sufficient quality for my use both indoor and outdoor. So I'm interested in how the Note 3 camera performs when compared to Note 2's.
Thanks in advance.
Ngambek2003 said:
Does anyone use a Note 2 prior to Note 3?
I'm interested in the quality of Note 3's camera relative to the Note 2. I've seen reviews saying that for outdoor pictures, the Note 3 quality is very good. But indoor is OK at best. To me the Note 2 camera has sufficient quality for my use both indoor and outdoor. So I'm interested in how the Note 3 camera performs when compared to Note 2's.
Thanks in advance.
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From the various reviews I've seen, the camera on the Note 3 is only bested by the Note 2 in low lighting situations. The Note 2 had a "night mode" which helped in low light. The Note 3 does not have this mode and the reviewers say it suffers because of it. However the PhoneArena review suggested to turn on Stabilization in low light which helped the Note 3 achieve better pictures under those conditions.
I have both phones and the Note3 camera is the better one in all conditions Sharper with more details and more natural colors
rikken said:
I have both phones and the Note3 camera is the better one in all conditions Sharper with more details and more natural colors
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The very first pic i took with my phone, just so random, but my note 2 cant just do this without blurring or faded colours
brugernavn said:
The very first pic i took with my phone, just so random, but my note 2 cant just do this without blurring or faded colours
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Glad to hear that there's good things about the real world usage of the Note 3.
Now,...I'm just hungry.
Here you go, Note 3 v/s Note 2
Note 3
Note II
Note 3
Note II
Note 3
Note II
Note 3
Note II
Not much of a difference.
and lighting faster....
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Not much of a difference.
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Note 3 color is much constant and vibrant and sharpen, but it is just a slightly.
The important point here is Note 3 camera focus speedy fast, I can much more easier capturing compare with Note II.
The low light capability of the Note 3 camera is much worse then Note 2. I hope that a camera FW update will fix this. But I think that it is more of a sensor thing. ..?
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hi guys, i am a happy owner of a htc one m8, the device is the fastest i've used and UI is a lot smooth. i also loved note 4 when i played with it in a samsung store. But i have some concerns about this device.
1-how is the UI performance in day to day use? in my m8 the UI is fast, no lag at all, but i know TW is heavy and i am a bit worried. mainly because i saw this video from flossy carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYuj2NSZZ0#t=851 . in 14:11 the device completely crash.
2-here in Brazil i just have the option to buy exynos version SM-N910C. is not clear anywhere what is dac it is using and if camera sensor is sony or samsung isocell, and which one is better.
3-how loud do you guys can record video without distortion? my other previous devices everytime i am with a place with high volume sound the audio distorts with bass, but with my m8 is clear, also iphones and some lumias don't have this problem. does note 4 have this problem?
4-how speaker audio compares to htc m8?
5- how is the battery life? it can reach 8 hours of screen on time with continuous usage?
6-how is the outdoor visibility?
is a lot of questions because i like my m8, and don't want to regret if i buy note 4. thanks.
leandronb said:
hi guys, i am a happy owner of a htc one m8, the device is the fastest i've used and UI is a lot smooth. i also loved note 4 when i played with it in a samsung store. But i have some concerns about this device.
1-how is the UI performance in day to day use? in my m8 the UI is fast, no lag at all, but i know TW is heavy and i am a bit worried. mainly because i saw this video from flossy carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYuj2NSZZ0#t=851 . in 14:11 the device completely crash.
2-here in Brazil i just have the option to buy exynos version SM-N910C. is not clear anywhere what is dac it is using and if camera sensor is sony or samsung isocell, and which one is better.
3-how loud do you guys can record video without distortion? my other previous devices everytime i am with a place with high volume sound the audio distorts with bass, but with my m8 is clear, also iphones and some lumias don't have this problem. does note 4 have this problem?
4-how speaker audio compares to htc m8?
5- how is the battery life? it can reach 8 hours of screen on time with continuous usage?
6-how is the outdoor visibility?
is a lot of questions because i like my m8, and don't want to regret if i buy note 4. thanks.
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I was an M8 user for quite some time before getting Note 4 and I'm pretty sure I can answer all of your questions:
1. M8's peformance is definitely smoother than N4's. Not that you'll notice daily lag or something, but TouchWiz is just so much heavier than Sense that the hiccups always come out in different parts of the UI.
2. I own an N910C as well and I am pretty sure it use Samsung's ISOCELL camera. Is it better than the Sony one found in Exynos? No idea. As far as the camera quality goes compared to M8, it's pretty much the same: selfies and normals are amazing and they look even better on the amazing QHD display, but M8's HDR and low light performance beats N4.
3. Never really had any problems with audio distortion on videos but I'm pretty sure with the additional microphones Samsung has put in, it should be a pleasant experience.
4. Nobody can beat M8's boom speakers at the moment in the market. N4's speaker is obviously nowhere better than stereo speakers of M8, but it's not too bad either.
5. 8 hours of screen on ? Whoaaa, dream on! Every N4 user has difference battery performance from what I saw on the forums, but I can assure you around 3-4 hrs of SoT. Fast Charging kinda makes up for that.
6. Since N4 has an AMOLED display, it always struggles in daylight visibility. However it is better than any other AMOLED display before and while it might not be better than M8's, it's still not gonna cause you a lot of problems in direct sunlight.
quadlt said:
I was an M8 user for quite some time before getting Note 4 and I'm pretty sure I can answer all of your questions:
1. M8's peformance is definitely smoother than N4's. Not that you'll notice daily lag or something, but TouchWiz is just so much heavier than Sense that the hiccups always come out in different parts of the UI.
2. I own an N910C as well and I am pretty sure it use Samsung's ISOCELL camera. Is it better than the Sony one found in Exynos? No idea. As far as the camera quality goes compared to M8, it's pretty much the same: selfies and normals are amazing and they look even better on the amazing QHD display, but M8's HDR and low light performance beats N4.
3. Never really had any problems with audio distortion on videos but I'm pretty sure with the additional microphones Samsung has put in, it should be a pleasant experience.
4. Nobody can beat M8's boom speakers at the moment in the market. N4's speaker is obviously nowhere better than stereo speakers of M8, but it's not too bad either.
5. 8 hours of screen on ? Whoaaa, dream on! Every N4 user has difference battery performance from what I saw on the forums, but I can assure you around 3-4 hrs of SoT. Fast Charging kinda makes up for that.
6. Since N4 has an AMOLED display, it always struggles in daylight visibility. However it is better than any other AMOLED display before and while it might not be better than M8's, it's still not gonna cause you a lot of problems in direct sunlight.
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So are you happy with your decision? there is something in your m8 that you miss now?
leandronb said:
hi guys, i am a happy owner of a htc one m8, the device is the fastest i've used and UI is a lot smooth. i also loved note 4 when i played with it in a samsung store. But i have some concerns about this device.
1-how is the UI performance in day to day use? in my m8 the UI is fast, no lag at all, but i know TW is heavy and i am a bit worried. mainly because i saw this video from flossy carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYuj2NSZZ0#t=851 . in 14:11 the device completely crash.
2-here in Brazil i just have the option to buy exynos version SM-N910C. is not clear anywhere what is dac it is using and if camera sensor is sony or samsung isocell, and which one is better.
3-how loud do you guys can record video without distortion? my other previous devices everytime i am with a place with high volume sound the audio distorts with bass, but with my m8 is clear, also iphones and some lumias don't have this problem. does note 4 have this problem?
4-how speaker audio compares to htc m8?
5- how is the battery life? it can reach 8 hours of screen on time with continuous usage?
6-how is the outdoor visibility?
is a lot of questions because i like my m8, and don't want to regret if i buy note 4. thanks.
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Hello
I went from the M8 to the Note 4, and while I don't regret my decision, the M8 in its own right is an amazing device and does trump the Note 4 in a few areas. My advice to you is stick with what you have, it's already a great device and you could swap it with an S6 or M9 down the line.
M8 would be smoother with the UI. I have a note 4, it's brilliant. It's really just an all-rounder. But ultimately what made me choose it over getting an M8 was my need for the s-pen. I'm a digital artist, and I use sketchbook pro on my note 10.1, and using dropsync I can now sync my projects between both devices... I'm super happy with this. Again, I would have probably bought the M8, or Z3 cause of the smoother UI if I didn't need the stylus. Enjoy your phone sir, it's one of the best out there
Hi, everyone.
The Note 3's camera is fine, everybody knows.
Even the Note 2's Camera is still OK for today.
Before reading my question (which is already mentioned in title),
Please don't blame me for that question.
There are so many people in the world, so maybe one of them asks for a Guide, which might is senseless for you, so don't blame me for that.
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You know, i like the Galaxy Note 3, because it's one of the three Jelly Bean Flagship-Smartphones in the World with 4K-Video and Smooth Motion Recording and still suitable for today.
Galaxy Note 3 (Jelly Bean+TouchWiz UI)
Oppo Find 7 (HD Image; 1440p Screen; Ultra-Fast Charging)
Oppo Find 7a (No KitKat-Upgrade)
Why i don't like the newer Android-Versions:
Android KitKat: Very Bogus (Data-Loss Bug, deletion of app data at app uninstallation or deinstallation. Many Software Bugs + restriction etc. )
Android Lollipop: Ugly User Interface - and you can't set the UI Back.
I'm very satisfied with the Note 3's Camera, but i think, that every phone needs an OIS today, for Compensation of the bad low-light performance. Especially those 20.7 Megapixel Phones like HTC One M9.
The Note 3's low-light performance is bad because:
Small Pixels (not as small as Xperia Z) on Camera Sensor
No Optical Image Stabilisation
Three Phones with Brilliant Cameras are:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (It's a Note Smartphone)
Samsung Galaxy S6 (High Colour Quality)
LG G4 (my favourite Phone Camera) (Best Dynamic Range+Focus Speed)
So is there a way, to replace the Note 3's Camera Sensor with the Sensor of one of those 3 Phones? (Preferred: LG G4)
You can't build Laser-AF into the Note 3 so easily, but i just like to get the Sensor and the OIS into it, to make the Low-Light Performance better.
Camera-app:
I'd like to keep the Native Camera-App UI from the Galaxy Note 3 (as known from the S4-Models), but i'd like to have:
16 Megapixels in Resolution chooser
1440p Video Recording (FHD, Smooth Motion and 4K is already there)
If Possible: Real-Time Slow Motion (HFR)-Video Recording.
Hannah Stern said:
Hi, everyone.
The Note 3's camera is fine, everybody knows.
Even the Note 2's Camera is still OK for today.
You know, i like the Galaxy Note 3, because it's one of the three Jelly Bean Flagship-Smartphones in the World with 4K-Video and Smooth Motion Recording and still suitable for today.
Galaxy Note 3 (Jelly Bean+TouchWiz UI)
Oppo Find 7 (HD Image; 1440p Screen; Ultra-Fast Charging)
Oppo Find 7a (No KitKat-Upgrade)
Why i don't like the newer Android-Versions:
Android KitKat: Very Bogus (Data-Loss Bug, deletion of app data at app uninstallation or deinstallation. Many Software Bugs + restriction etc. )
Android Lollipop: Ugly User Interface - and you can't set the UI Back.
I'm very satisfied with the Note 3's Camera, but i think, that every phone needs an OIS today, for Compensation of the bad low-light performance. Especially those 20.7 Megapixel Phones like HTC One M9.
The Note 3's low-light performance is bad because:
Small Pixels (not as small as Xperia Z) on Camera Sensor
No Optical Image Stabilisation
Three Phones with Brilliant Cameras are:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (It's a Note Smartphone)
Samsung Galaxy S6 (High Colour Quality)
LG G4 (my favourite Phone Camera) (Best Dynamic Range+Focus Speed)
So is there a way, to replace the Note 3's Camera Sensor with the Sensor of one of those 3 Phones? (Preferred: LG G4)
You can't build Laser-AF into the Note 3 so easily, but i just like to get the Sensor and the OIS into it, to make the Low-Light Performance better.
Camera-app:
I'd like to keep the Native Camera-App UI from the Galaxy Note 3 (as known from the S4-Models), but i'd like to have:
16 Megapixels in Resolution chooser
1440p Video Recording (FHD, Smooth Motion and 4K is already there)
If Possible: Real-Time Slow Motion (HFR)-Video Recording.
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Old post so you may never see this but did you ever get an answer to your question?
Hello,
First of all, i'm very satisfied with the Note 3's Camera. It's very useful and makes very good pictures and is also very fast. The shutter lag is very short in sports mode, and i also love the [email protected] and 4K-Recording. The User Interface of the camera is also designed very well, and it's got a giant amount of features. :good:
Please note, that i've got (the lastest) Android 4.3, because 4.4.2 is very bogus and Lollipop's User Interface is very ugly and lost many features.
But here are three software-features, that you can add, by installing the S6 and M9 Camera APK, but they are only supported from Android 5.0/higher.
1. Real-Time-equivalent Slow Motion / HFR
I'd like to record it like i described it right here, because the displayed playback speed in the player is equivalent to Real-Time and because Audio is recorded. This is also, how the Galaxy S6's Camera Software Application does it.
2. 1440p Video Recording
This is what i need, when i'd like to take a video, which is better than FullHD 1080p, but doesn't eat up as much space as 4K-Video. This is, what the Note 4/S6 Camera application also is capable of.
Bitrates:
FHD - 17 MBit/s
WQHD - 28 MBit/s (like [email protected])
4K-UHD and DCi-4K: 50 MBit/s (sometimes around 48)
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3. Zero Pause Lag/Delay
This is, what the HTC One M9 can do - even in 4K. The last phone i know, which can do this is the Omnia 2.
It allows you, to Rec/Pause/Rec/Pause/etc... a video, without any lag/delay.
You can hit the rec/pause button, as fast as you want, and it always reacts.
The Note 4 and S6 have got a pause delay of around two seconds.
Off-Topic:
Here's a list of small things, that are also missing on the Note 3-Camera, but are less important currently.
Hardware
Physical Shutter Button (Priority: 60 %)
OIS Camera (every Flagship Smartphone newer than Med-2014 should have OIS.) (Priority = 70 %)
Mechanical Shutter (makes Picture quality a little bit better but is not so important) Prior.= 20 %
Software
The disadvantages below are so small, that they're pretty much off-topic. I'm satisfied with the Note 3 Camera.
Selective Focus
Tap-to-shoot
AF/AE Lock
Manual Camera Settings
Color Spectrum RGB Sensor (low Priority) (As known from the LG G4)
Laser Auto Focus (low Prior) (as known from LG G3 and G4)
Burst Shot Limit - higher than just 20
Lossy digital zoom is useless. Only Lossless Digital Zoom is good.
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I'm still very satisfied with the Note 3 Camera. ♥
Every help is highly appreciated. But please take this thread seriously.
The main Problem is, that every useful app is only supportet on Android Ugly Edition 5.0.
I don't like the case, if the lowest API that an app supports is 19 or higher.
I miss the old pretty times, where the Note 2 (with it's beautiful TouchWiz Nature UX 1.0) with it's Android 4.0.4 or 4.1.2 or where the Note 3/10.1(2014) with their superior User Interface (TouchWiz NatureUX 2.5) and Android 4.3 were the newest. Then 4.4 ruined all software. Now 5.0 comes with a ruined U/UX.
Also the S5's UI was OK, but lost some features. I like this ocean blue of the S5.
The Note 4's UI+Hardware lost too many features.
Hannah Stern said:
The main Problem is, that every useful app is only supportet on Android Ugly Edition 5.0.
I don't like the case, if the lowest API that an app supports is 19 or higher.
I miss the old pretty times, where the Note 2 (with it's beautiful TouchWiz Nature UX 1.0) with it's Android 4.0.4 or 4.1.2 or where the Note 3/10.1(2014) with their superior User Interface (TouchWiz NatureUX 2.5) and Android 4.3 were the newest. Then 4.4 ruined all software. Now 5.0 comes with a ruined U/UX.
Also the S5's UI was OK, but lost some features. I like this ocean blue of the S5.
The Note 4's UI+Hardware lost too many features.
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Heard of launchers and themes?
And TW is never nice.
Tap-to-Shoot
The Tap-to-Shoot-Feature, which is activated by tapping somewhere in the Viewfinder, isn't in the S4, but actually it does exist on the Note 3.
I have not seen it before.
My large Post in the following link also includes some camera disadvantages, that also hit the Note 3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61982181&postcount=529
ShutterLag: Good but could be better.
Manual Settings in Jelly Bean API
Unlimited Burst Shots (Lixe Xperia Z)
Hello. In 2013, the HTC One M7 and the Xperia Z (Z0) were released parallel to the S4.
After half a year, the Galaxy Note 3 was released.
I wonder, if the Galaxy Note 3 has HDR-Video.
The S5 does have it. And Note 4 too.
I can switch to HDR Mode and record a video. But I am not sure, whether there is a difference.
Does the Note 3 have HDR-Video?
If so, how to enable it?
First of all true HDR was developed for still cameras long time ago and it works by combining usually 3 separate pictures shot at different exposures to create one with higher dynamic range, than the sensor is capable off. I'm not sure how it would be possible to shot 3 frames and combine them into 1, all inside at most 1/30 sec, maybe at low resolution, but no way at anything close to max resolution. So whatever they are doing, I don't think they are doing true HDR. Now, specifically HTC has low resolution camera sensor (4mb? compared to 12 MB Note3), which has higher dynamic range to begin with (due to larger photo sensor size) and therefore I think can use other tricks, to make it look like HDR. However when I looked at videos from HTC posted around web, I wasn't impressed that much either. Anyhow, I don't think Note3 can do HDR video and I don't see any difference either.