Why can't I use my full internal storage? - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I noticed that when I go to the storage options it says there is 28-29 gigs worth of miscellaneous files when I know for a fact that my internal storage does not have that much on it. I have games installed but nothing more of 5 gigs. I tried running a new game and it said my storage is full but I can't figure out why? Any ideas?

Here's a picture. What I don't understand is why can't I use a larger partition for my internal storage ?

Click on miscellaneous files and it should tell you what's using up your memory
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You are safestrapped aren't you... You CAN use all that memory... The settings/storage menu is just showing you how much memory you have left in the rom slot you are in right now... Use Root Explorer or whatever to see your actual free memory... It's still there... And yes.. Safestrap is supposed to work this way so you know when the slot partition you are in is getting full.

Well that's the problem. I click on misc files and it doesn't show. The highest one in there is 1.3 gigs then it goes down to ~50mb. I added up them all under misc and it's less than 3 gigs, which is why I don't understand why it says 28? It's causing me to not be able to install certain games >.>

Logan3824 said:
Well that's the problem. I click on misc files and it doesn't show. The highest one in there is 1.3 gigs then it goes down to ~50mb. I added up them all under misc and it's less than 3 gigs, which is why I don't understand why it says 28? It's causing me to not be able to install certain games >.>
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You need to set the rom as the main. If you put it in one of the slots you will be limited to the storage space. Activate the main partition in safe strap. Delete the rom slot. And flash rom as normal on to the main slot.
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mrlaigle said:
You need to set the rom as the main. If you put it in one of the slots you will be limited to the storage space. Activate the main partition in safe strap. Delete the rom slot. And flash rom as normal on to the main slot.
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This is the answer I needed. Thank you sir. I gave you thanks!:good:

b00mb00mchuck said:
You are safestrapped aren't you... You CAN use all that memory... The settings/storage menu is just showing you how much memory you have left in the rom slot you are in right now... Use Root Explorer or whatever to see your actual free memory... It's still there... And yes.. Safestrap is supposed to work this way so you know when the slot partition you are in is getting full.
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YES, this!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
mrlaigle said:
You need to set the rom as the main. If you put it in one of the slots you will be limited to the storage space. Activate the main partition in safe strap. Delete the rom slot. And flash rom as normal on to the main slot.
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Logan3824 said:
This is the answer I needed. Thank you sir. I gave you thanks!:good:
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You don't need to do this and ideally you should leave the stock ROM slot stock.
Android just doesn't read storage right when you have safestrap. The only internal storage you loose when using safestrap is how big of a ROM slot partition you create. If you look at your internal storage through something like ES File Explorer, it'll see the true available size. Even though Android says it's full, it's not and your phone will allow you to use it.

Yes but ss reads memory correctly when done in the main slot.
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Just increases the chance of borking your device if something goes wrong with the stock slot... You could also just create a slot with a larger memory partition so you are still SAFEstrapped
Loading a custom rom in Stock slot goes against the whole purpose of why Safestrap was created.
It's a bummer when the stock slot goes bad and the phone won't even boot into download mode to use Odin and hack your way out of a tight spot.

Safe strap is sandboxed even the stock rom slot. Nothing you do it in can hard brick you. You can always Odin back.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
Just increases the chance of borking your device if something goes wrong with the stock slot... You could also just create a slot with a larger memory partition so you are still SAFEstrapped
Loading a custom rom in Stock slot goes against the whole purpose of why Safestrap was created.
It's a bummer when the stock slot goes bad and the phone won't even boot into download mode to use Odin and hack your way out of a tight spot.
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How can a ROM not booting affect the Download mode portion of the phone?
Since we have locked bootloaders and the ROM loads after the kernel that controls the hot keys combinations at boot, I don't get it and never heard of such a thing happening to anyone

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[Q] Internal Storage Size 19505

Hello
I've recently flashed [Rom]Google Edition galaxy S4 rom for i9505 [27 June] [Pure Nexus Experience] onto my S4. After following all the instructions it's working fine. Except the internal storage size is still 9.25GB with 8.18GB allocated. I would have thought that removing the stock ROM would have freed the internal storage space?
Cheers.
re: allocated space
UrbanNZ said:
Hello
I've recently flashed [Rom]Google Edition galaxy S4 rom for i9505 [27 June] [Pure Nexus Experience] onto my S4. After following all the instructions it's working fine. Except the internal storage size is still 9.25GB with 8.18GB allocated. I would have thought that removing the stock ROM would have freed the internal storage space?
Cheers.
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I think you answered your own question, "allocated" means "reserved" so in other words even if you
did not have any rom flashed/installed at all the phone would still allocate/reserve the 8.18GB space
which cannot be used for normal storage.
Good luck!
Thanks for your reply. It's a bit of a bummer though, is there no way to release the total storage size of the phones internal memory for user allocation ? Would it be something the developers could work on. But then I guess it comes back to the old saying, just get an SD Card.
UrbanNZ said:
Thanks for your reply. It's a bit of a bummer though, is there no way to release the total storage size of the phones internal memory for user allocation ? Would it be something the developers could work on. But then I guess it comes back to the old saying, just get an SD Card.
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I doubt that any of the devs could increase the user usable space on the internal sdcard.
But even if they increased it by 1GB or 2GB no one including you would be satisfied with
that for more than a few minutes anyway.
The external sdcards are really not that expensive and spending $20-30 bucks on
32GB sdcard for a device which cost over $650 is not that big of a deal.
I would think the actual GS4GE has a different pit file.
actually i thought it would free up internal storage after flashing cm10.1...
I already flashed and indeed its still the same space as TW.. puzzling..
mgear356 said:
actually i thought it would free up internal storage after flashing cm10.1...
I already flashed and indeed its still the same space as TW.. puzzling..
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People have answered this many times. The size of storage you get will not increase unless Samsung changes the partition size.
repartition
isn't possible to re-partition. I am sure samsung had a good reason to book 6 GB for OS. but stock edition will not need all this space! i would say maybe not more than 3.
so cant we repartition the reserved to achieve usuable of 13GB?
masfog said:
isn't possible to re-partition. I am sure samsung had a good reason to book 6 GB for OS. but stock edition will not need all this space! i would say maybe not more than 3.
so cant we repartition the reserved to achieve usuable of 13GB?
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Yes you can but its very risky. See below
Skipjacks said:
In order to partition that internal memory you have to wipe it. And that means everything. System, recovery, download mode, boot loader, everything.
The connection with Odin or adb at this point would be totally housed in RAM. It would need to maintain that connection in order to complete the task of adding the new partition, adding the download mode back, adding recovery, and finally the ROM itself.
If the phone lost its connection during that process or lost power or the update process got pushed out of ram for any reason the phone would be hard bricked as there would be no way to reestablish communication with it to restart the process. You couldn't power it on or boot it to anything. It would be a $600 paper weight.
Meanwhile the alternative option is to just go buy an $8 external 16gb SD card or a $20 external 32gb SD card. That carries no risk whatsoever and expands your phone's storage well beyond the original 9gb of usable space you started with.
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Yes you can but its very risky. See below
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thanks for the info. but i dont see why i would lost power during the process or anything like that. is it the same risk as flashing a rom via odin?
Is this why I am only able to use about three gigs of my internal storage space? I see 3 or so are partitioned off for the ROM (See second attachment from within TiB), then I have 10 gigs, but 7 are full of something I can't locate - either from within my phone or through my computer (See first attachment from within ES File Explorer).
I've got to assume this is just something going on with my phone. I think everyone would be pretty upset if their 16 gig phone only gave them 3 gigs...
I wish we had something like DTa2SD for the S4! That would be great...
masfog said:
thanks for the info. but i dont see why i would lost power during the process or anything like that. is it the same risk as flashing a rom via odin?
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When everything goes well you are right, you will probably reflash the partition 1000 times without having any issues... the problem is if you were to be unlucky
No the risk is not the same as flashing a rom. If the process of flashing a rom is interrupted you just wouldn't be able to reboot your phone normally but you could always reboot in recovery or download mode to retry flashing the rom.
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Shawn7656 said:
Is this why I am only able to use about three gigs of my internal storage space? I see 3 or so are partitioned off for the ROM (See second attachment from within TiB), then I have 10 gigs, but 7 are full of something I can't locate - either from within my phone or through my computer (See first attachment from within ES File Explorer).
I've got to assume this is just something going on with my phone. I think everyone would be pretty upset if their 16 gig phone only gave them 3 gigs...
I wish we had something like DTa2SD for the S4! That would be great...
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No you should have 8/9 Gb free on your Internal SD. The space you lose are the 2.19Gb in the system partition, but you have definitely something that is occupying your Internal SD.
Well crap. Any idea how to get rid of whatever it is? I can't get my phone to go into mass transfer mode at all (even with the SG USB Mass Transfer app) so the only thing I can do is browse on my phone through file explorers and nothing can see it.

Safestrap storage question.

I'm new to safestrap on the M. Since a good deal of the internal storage is take up by the stock rom, when making a slot, how much storage is left over? I feel like there won't really be enough since most larger apps install to the internal storage and not the SD card.
I'm rooted but with a locked bootloader, so safestrap is my only option.
Thanks.
vjaamm said:
I'm new to safestrap on the M. Since a good deal of the internal storage is take up by the stock rom, when making a slot, how much storage is left over? I feel like there won't really be enough since most larger apps install to the internal storage and not the SD card.
I'm rooted but with a locked bootloader, so safestrap is my only option.
Thanks.
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Internal is already partitioned off into 4ish GB sections, so really you only get to exploit 4GB and about half of that is already dedicated to the stock ROM. I always ran 1GB slots when I ran SS because I use few apps. I've heard of people setting up 2GB slots but some of them would run into lag issues because they had so little memory issues.
vjaamm said:
I'm new to safestrap on the M. Since a good deal of the internal storage is take up by the stock rom, when making a slot, how much storage is left over? I feel like there won't really be enough since most larger apps install to the internal storage and not the SD card.
I'm rooted but with a locked bootloader, so safestrap is my only option.
Thanks.
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RikRong said:
Internal is already partitioned off into 4ish GB sections, so really you only get to exploit 4GB and about half of that is already dedicated to the stock ROM. I always ran 1GB slots when I ran SS because I use few apps. I've heard of people setting up 2GB slots but some of them would run into lag issues because they had so little memory issues.
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I thought you would chime in here Rik. I did not know how to answer.
Also if the op does my sd swap & mhous33's dst SS for it. Will SS BS use internal sd or external sd? What do you think?
aviwdoowks said:
I thought you would chime in here Rik. I did not know how to answer.
Also if the op does my sd swap & mhous33's dst SS for it. Will SS BS use internal sd or external sd? What do you think?
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Honestly, I'm not sure. I know I could save SS backups to my external, but I'm not sure about being able to actually swap them.
Thanks for the help! I'm gonna try the SS on stock and put a rom on and see what happens. I use a fair amount of apps, so I'm gonna go with the 2 gig and see what happens with lag and adjust from there if needed.

Not enough internal space

I was wondering if I could get help or some insight regarding internal space with safe strap, I'm constantly running out of space and well it kinda sucks
Sorry I came from an unlocked note 2 and im not 100 % sure I understand safe strap so my apologies... Anyways is it possible to delete the original back up in my slot 1
From my understanding it is ment not to be touched but I think thats why I have no space I mean I'm constantly deleting text threads and apps now or is there a way to do like the SD swap that was able to be done on the note 2??
Or if you guys have any other ways of getting space I mean my biggest apps are like chrome and Google text to speech
Move your stock ROM to your pc and back it up there. That will clear up some space
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chriscw81 said:
Move your stock ROM to your pc and back it up there. That will clear up some space
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Not to sound like a total noob but would I have to re load that stock slot or what ?
asimoalex said:
Not to sound like a total noob but would I have to re load that stock slot or what ?
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Coming from another noob......I don't think you have to have a backup in your stock slot. I moved mine to my computer with no problems, I only have roms in slots 1 and 2. Also consider backing up titanium backup files to your pc too, that can be a big folder
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asimoalex said:
I was wondering if I could get help or some insight regarding internal space with safe strap, I'm constantly running out of space and well it kinda sucks
Sorry I came from an unlocked note 2 and im not 100 % sure I understand safe strap so my apologies... Anyways is it possible to delete the original back up in my slot 1
From my understanding it is ment not to be touched but I think thats why I have no space I mean I'm constantly deleting text threads and apps now or is there a way to do like the SD swap that was able to be done on the note 2??
Or if you guys have any other ways of getting space I mean my biggest apps are like chrome and Google text to speech
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I personally only use the stock slot for my daily driver rom. I just put the back up on my internal and it's there if I need it.
I will use slot one to test roms out but then delete the slot if I want and just keep using the stock slot. If you want to put a rom on stock side it's fine just wipe it clean first and remember to back up your stock rom.
This is how you will maintain proper storage.
Harleydroid said:
I personally only use the stock slot for my daily driver rom. I just put the back up on my internal and it's there if I need it.
I will use slot one to test roms out but then delete the slot if I want and just keep using the stock slot. If you want to put a rom on stock side it's fine just wipe it clean first and remember to back up your stock rom.
This is how you will maintain proper storage.
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So my stock rom is the OG rom when I first obtained root and my slot 1 is Hyperdrive can I delete the stock one? In place for Hyperdrive... Because that's how I have my phone atm and im gonna try and just titanium Strait to my pc never tried before but if that's do able I think this method would be easier see from what I've read everyone says not to touch the stock rom
asimoalex said:
So my stock rom is the OG rom when I first obtained root and my slot 1 is Hyperdrive can I delete the stock one? In place for Hyperdrive... Because that's how I have my phone atm and im gonna try and just titanium Strait to my pc never tried before but if that's do able I think this method would be easier see from what I've read everyone says not to touch the stock rom
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If you want the correct storage running on the stock slot is the only way. Like I said I backup my stock rom to internal so it's on my phone if I need it. Stock slot is kinda dangerous but if you have a really stable custom rom you should be okay. I've been flashing to stock slot since safestrap was released for the Note3.

Storage space internal

Hi all,
I just rooted today and got this Note 3 up and running. Coming from a Note 2. I am now getting a "storage space running out" notification. When I click on it says that my Misc files have 29.61GB of usage, however when I click on that-no folders stick out to me as having large file use? I have the stock ROM saved, as well as running BAJA in slot 1. Any suggestions on how to free up some space?
Don't use two roms with all your apps in both.
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Southern_mind said:
Don't use two roms with all your apps in both.
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Ok, thanks. Question is this, do I have to backup the current ROM I am using each time I move from slot to slot to maintain settings? or is it auto saved?
Found my answer to my above question however other than the bloat ware, I only had 3 apps that I downloaded on stock so something else has to be eating it.
LTLFTCer said:
Ok, thanks. Question is this, do I have to backup the current ROM I am using each time I move from slot to slot to maintain settings? or is it auto saved?
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if you moving the rom to a different slot a back up is best if you just loading a different slot no need for backup everything is the same as it was when you rebooted the phone its just like having more then one phone if you have more then one slot with a rom on it
started looking at moving my apps to the SD card, at least the ones I could and I only have 2GB of app taking space. And when clicking misc files, only 60MB or so of data is shown, so something huge is taking up internal space that I cannot see. I know BAJA is what, 1.7GB I think, could the stock ROM be taking up that much room?
And when plug it into the computer,it is showing 18.9GB free on internal????
Maybe trying doing a wipe and reinstall the ROM. With stock you should have about 22GB free out of the 32GB total. Sounds like something is glitched?
Maybe I got a bad download of Baja? I haven't tried to re download but everything worked except for this storage issue. I ended up wiping and sticking with stock root after wiping and reinstalling the Baja file I had didn't work again. Might just wait for 4.4 to come out and alliance to be released for the note 3 hopefully.
LTLFTCer said:
Maybe I got a bad download of Baja? I haven't tried to re download
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If it is a bad download and you didn't redownload then it won't fix anything...Why don't you redownload? It's only a little over 1GB and shouldn't take long.
Boot into recovery, create a new ROM slot. Increase the data partition size to the max(I believe its 4gb). Use this slot and flash ROM. Profit
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Novakingwai said:
If it is a bad download and you didn't redownload then it won't fix anything...Why don't you redownload? It's only a little over 1GB and shouldn't take long.
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Oh, I know, I don't have wifi at work and did everything I could without re-downloading at work. Sa the wipe and re-install of the old didn't fix it, so went back to the stock and set u y accounts and screens. Too lazy to do it again, lol.

Space is all I want!

Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
Hi,
Instead of using Adoptable Storage, make 2 partitions on your SD, 1 FAT32 for photos,music,documents and another EXT4 for apps data. Use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd , i tested it.
You can make 2 partitions using PC or with TWRP Recovery.
drebbs said:
Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
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Hey i recommend rooting ur phone then download an app called move to sd card from playstore go to settings and choose download locations then select external sd card . Problem solved
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here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...msung-j5-f-t3400101/post69989096#post69989096
Thanks for your reply! I went down the apps2SD route in the end. Kinda mest it up a bit but have free'd up nearly 1gb of space so thanks, that's more than enough! %) I ended up partitioning the SDcard and linking all the apps I'm not interested in, excel,Skype,Samsung etc. Anyway what i didn't realise was that i had mest the other part of the partition up. Ended up re-formatting the SDcard in recovery back to normal and those apps I didn't want 90% of the data of those have now been wiped %)

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