Anyone Else hate the button placement? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

I just got my Note last week, and I never realized how often I hold the tablet right in the middle. The buttons are constantly in the way or getting pressed. When I tried to switch holding it on the sides the bezels are so thin that my palm keeps touching the screen. I originally loved the slim bezels, but not so much anymore. Anyways I've started using my tablet upside down now, and it seems to have fixed my problem.
Anyone else experienced this?

Coming from a HP Touchpad, I've come accustomed to on-screen buttons and a single home button. I would love a rom control/mod to turn off the backlight buttons. I have the on-screen navigation bar in the cleanrom and love it. Especially for when using the tablet in portrait mode.
I feel your pains. Button placement is bad. I'm annoyed by the backwards volume buttons the most. Especially when shooting for recovery.
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Mave025 said:
I just got my Note last week, and I never realized how often I hold the tablet right in the middle. The buttons are constantly in the way or getting pressed. When I tried to switch holding it on the sides the bezels are so thin that my palm keeps touching the screen. I originally loved the slim bezels, but not so much anymore. Anyways I've started using my tablet upside down now, and it seems to have fixed my problem.
Anyone else experienced this?
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I noticed this problem from day 1. I bought this tablet because of the Spen. I can fill out invoices and make notes. I can then hand the tablet to the customer for their signature. But every time they started signing their name they would press one of the buttons. So now I always hand them the tablet up side down. Works great this way.

So far its not been a problem for me at all but I have to admit i very rarely hold my tablet as its always propped up or on my lap.
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daryldc1991 said:
I noticed this problem from day 1. I bought this tablet because of the Spen. I can fill out invoices and make notes. I can then hand the tablet to the customer for their signature. But every time they started signing their name they would press one of the buttons. So now I always hand them the tablet up side down. Works great this way.
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I use gmd spen control to reject touch input from anything but the pen
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Duly.noted said:
I use gmd spen control to reject touch input from anything but the pen
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The palm rejection from the app I use is good for that. Its not input from the screen that is the problem. Its accidentally pressing the home, back or menu button.

Easy fix for that ..Root it..get Lmt Launcher along with Gmd gesture controls and unlock the beauty of this tablet!!!
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Easy fix for that ..Root it..get Lmt Launcher along with Gmd gesture controls and unlock the beauty of this tablet!!!
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I read up on that app and it does not block the soft buttons or home button.
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daryldc1991 said:
I read up on that app and it does not block the soft buttons or home button.
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Never mind it does disable capacitive buttons but that's not a good enough reason for me to root. Its working fine the way it is.

Yep, I hate it too!

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3rd Way to take screenshot !

By knowing obvious two ways of taking screenshot using S-pen and Palm sweep,
yesterday i discovered 3rd way which is by pressing lock button and home button simultaneously !
I dont know how many of us know this, just thought sharing, but nowhere i have read about this.
And if you really didn't knew this, being "Noob" i would really like to see something on my Thanks meter
Most of us know it I guess but thanks anyways
I didn't know it, thanks. probably won't use it though a its a little more awkward than the other 2 ways
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Actually pressing the lock button and home button simultaneously is quite easy... ive been doing that since i got my note. That was how I used to take screen caps with my iphone
Maybe in landscape
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how do you capture using palm sweep? i saw the video on youtube but can't seem to duplicate it. is there a setting i need to enable before i can do this?
You should just have to Swipe your hand from the right hand side of the screen to the left
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Left to right works also, learn something new everyday
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I don't really find the hand swipe convenient
Most convenient method is hand swipe but 9 out of 10 times, I can't get it to work. I always end up with the other 2 methods.
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Coming from iPhone (besides my BB days) this was a natural gesture I tried when I got my note. Still, I usually need a screenshot when I am going to annotate it with my SPen, so button+screen press is my preferred action.
I can't seam to get the swipe motion to work. Are you guys using one finger? 2, 3, 4? The Palm? right at the middle of the screen? the top? bottom? I tried them all, can't seam to get it to work.
The Lock/Home Button method seams to work on most android devices by default.
geonahta said:
Coming from iPhone (besides my BB days) this was a natural gesture I tried when I got my note. Still, I usually need a screenshot when I am going to annotate it with my SPen, so button+screen press is my preferred action.
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You do know that pressing the button on the pen and holding the stylus on the Note will take a screen shot, plus bring up the S-Pen annotation tools right? It would be faster to do it that way rather then save the screen shot, then go to the gallery and annotate the photo after the fact.
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I can't seam to get the swipe motion to work. Are you guys using one finger? 2, 3, 4? The Palm? right at the middle of the screen? the top? bottom? I tried them all, can't seam to get it to work.
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use the side of your hand. Too hard to apply even pressure across the entire screen otherwise.
ChodTheWacko said:
use the side of your hand. Too hard to apply even pressure across the entire screen otherwise.
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Thanks! So...apparently it works if you run your phone across your abdomen as well...yeah, don't ask.
deymayor said:
how do you capture using palm sweep? i saw the video on youtube but can't seem to duplicate it. is there a setting i need to enable before i can do this?
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use the edge of the palm below index finger and slide it from left to right or right to left. It helps applying uniform pressure on ample amount of pixels......

Stupid home button - I hate it.....and I think I'm having problems with it

does anyone here like the home button???....the button on my s3 seems very loose and clicks.....it doesn't feel right....anyone else notice this or is my button defective....not only does it feel loose, but I hate it....its to low, and is almost hard to get to with a case on......
I love it.
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Nope its fine.
I actually enjoy having a home button
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Pretty handy.
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I could do without the physical button. I liked how my old Fascinate just had capacitive buttons
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I like it and it adds to the look of the phone.
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The button generally is fine, it really sounds like your is defective, it shouldn't click as far as I know
I like it, I hated the captivated buttons.
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I don't use it very often...
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I hated it at first since I had gotten so used to not having one but, now I LOVE it.
Mine isn't loose or anything, Maybe you should go back to store and see what they think?
It is kind of low but I use the rock quicksand case which leaves the bottom area open so no issues there.
The physical home button is pretty annoying. All capacitive like in the One X was much better.
one028 said:
does anyone here like the home button???....the button on my s3 seems very loose and clicks.....it doesn't feel right....anyone else notice this or is my button defective....not only does it feel loose, but I hate it....its to low, and is almost hard to get to with a case on......
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mine is the same.. the right side is lose compared to the left side and it clicks everytime i favor clicking the right side..
Rogers is sending me a brand new one in the mail..
and my phone gets MAD hot.. temperature says 48degrees C right now
I love it! Mine is solid and silent; yours is probably defective.
Capacitive buttons are MUCH better than physical ones.
Hating it.
For the people who don't like it: did you know you can wake the phone using it instead of the power button? That's something you can't do with a capacitive home button...
Don't like the button. What good is it that my home button can unlock the phone when i hate pressing the button?
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one028 said:
does anyone here like the home button???....the button on my s3 seems very loose and clicks.....it doesn't feel right....anyone else notice this or is my button defective....not only does it feel loose, but I hate it....its to low, and is almost hard to get to with a case on......
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If you don't like the home button, you can use this program called Task Changer to put a virtual home right above the physical one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5wYWNvc2FsLnRhc2tjaGFuZ2VydGl0YW5pdW0iXQ..
maxh said:
For the people who don't like it: did you know you can wake the phone using it instead of the power button? That's something you can't do with a capacitive home button...
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Given the great placement of the power button in Samsung phones, that's nothing to write home about.
The home button works perfectly. It has a positive feel you just don't get with the capacitive buttons.

Turn on screen without using the power button?

I am wondering if there is something like pgm for the nexus 7. It's really handy on my galaxy nexus, just to be able to swipe the screen. I think it's even more needed on the nexus 7 since the power button is sometimes awkward to find.
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T-Keith said:
I am wondering if there is something like pgm for the nexus 7. It's really handy on my galaxy nexus, just to be able to swipe the screen. I think it's even more needed on the nexus 7 since the power button is sometimes awkward to find.
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If u mean to put it to sleep without pressing the power button; yes there is. it isn't a swype, but a button you can put on each home screen. Don't remember the name of the app, but it's in the play store.
Some custom roms will allow you to "remap" button and add longpress feature so you could put lockscreen on longpress of Homebutton for example, you could also put a widget on your home screen or even in notification bar ( not sur for notification bar)
i know what your talking about. i don't think its on this device yet as far as i know but i know in the evo lte section zarboz has been trying to get the source code for that feature so he can bake it into his kernel. im sure if you ask one of the kernel devs here they can try to get it as well. not making any promises tho seeing how zarboz has been trying for 2 somewhere around 2 months as far as i know with no luck so far.
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joep229 said:
If u mean to put it to sleep without pressing the power button; yes there is. it isn't a swype, but a button you can put on each home screen. Don't remember the name of the app, but it's in the play store.
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Some custom roms will allow you to "remap" button and add longpress feature so you could put lockscreen on longpress of Homebutton for example, you could also put a widget on your home screen or even in notification bar ( not sur for notification bar)
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hes not trying to put it to sleep guys, he is trying to wake the screen with a swipe.
Yes wake is more important, although pgm does sleep with a swipe of the navigation keys as well.
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how about a smart cover? wakes/sleeps the screen with a fold of the flap.
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how about a smart cover? wakes/sleeps the screen with a fold of the flap.
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If his finger was magnetic then he could wake with a swipe of the finger. I guess your hand would get tired from holding your finger in place to keep the screen off though...
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RockNrolling said:
If his finger was magnetic then he could wake with a swipe of the finger. I guess your hand would get tired from holding your finger in place to keep the screen off though...
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My buddy actually had magnets inserted into the tips of his index finger and thumb (he's a techie guy... and crazy). He had them "installed" as a test to test implants. He can pick up screws, paperclips, and of course, turn on the smart screens!
So implanting finger magnets has to be the best answer. KISS principle
player911 said:
My buddy actually had magnets inserted into the tips of his index finger and thumb (he's a techie guy... and crazy). He had them "installed" as a test to test implants. He can pick up screws, paperclips, and of course, turn on the smart screens!
So implanting finger magnets has to be the best answer. KISS principle
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Sounds cool where do I sign up? Guess I'll have to start using Google wallet though, can't be good for credit cards.
Seriously though if there is anything I hate more than cases it's cases with covers. :-$
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Criticisms about HTC's choice in buttons

So I got the HTC One today and I have to say the build quality is out of this world. But I have a few gripes about it and I was wondering if anyone had the same opinions. First the feedback from the softkeys is really weak. I barely feel the vibration when I hit the key. This is especially an issue when I have to double tap the home key for the multitasking screen. I'm also getting incredibly irritated with the location of the power key. It literally could not be further for me to reach when I'm using the phone. I came from an S3 where the power button was on the side and feedback from the soft keys is always a good intensity. Maybe I'm being too critical but I'm wondering if anyone else is getting bothered by these issues.
You may have a point but do we really need to start a thread for this? Just add it to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247601
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NxNW said:
You may have a point but do we really need to start a thread for this? Just add it to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247601
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You're probably right. I'll be moving my criticisms over there.
gamefreke89 said:
You're probably right. I'll be moving my criticisms over there.
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I too am not the biggest fan of the power button being at the top. I have my screens set up to be used one handed, but the power button ruins it
I switched to Revolution HD ROM, which has a feature to use the volume up/down keys to wake the phone up, but I am slightly concerned about performance. I might be wrong, but I think the stock ROM was smoother (especially when opening and closing the apps draw). I will compare it with a friend's phone today.
I feel so sad for this
OK, had a look at the stock rom and the same lag is there. Will stick with Revolution HD Rom.
Either they fix this or I don't feel them unresponsive. They are working good enough for me.
You can use the HTC logo or the menu buttons to turn screen on and off on alot of the custom kernels. I don't even use my power button any more
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I got used to the layout in under an hour when I first got the phone. Now I have no problems using either my sensation or my h1. People always find stuff to.complain. The button and power button layout is the least of worries tbfh.
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HTC choices with buttons are absolutely horrible
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I don't have any issue with the power button placement, btw how many times do you use the power button when using your phone? Only once, and that's when you pick it up
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I'm loving that the development community unlocked the HTC symbol. I use Logo2Wake and Logo2Sleep and use it as a power button. Faux kernel seems to have the most responsive that I have seem so far
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I might be in the minority but I think the power button is designed just right. I have no trouble pressing it with my other hand of course. But yeah, the useless HTC logo at the bottom is a big faux pas.
indelibo said:
I might be in the minority but I think the power button is designed just right. I have no trouble pressing it with my other hand of course. But yeah, the useless HTC logo at the bottom is a big faux pas.
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I cannot blame them though... as far as larger branding goes that one is very attractive and I don't feel like I'm using a billboard
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The power button is at the top so that the you can point the phone straight forward when using the IR blaster. Not sure why everyone is overlooking this. As for the buttons, I don't see a problem with them. The lack of a menu key annoyed me but I re-enabled the long press back for menu and it's been fine.
We could have one more button yes. But there are phones with power button on the left so that's not a "mistake"
coisman said:
The power button is at the top so that the you can point the phone straight forward when using the IR blaster. Not sure why everyone is overlooking this. As for the buttons, I don't see a problem with them. The lack of a menu key annoyed me but I re-enabled the long press back for menu and it's been fine.
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No one is overlooking anything, it doesn't have to be a stupid combo button
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No one is overlooking anything, it doesn't have to be a stupid combo button
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I was about to say the same thing...it would have been great to have the power button on the side about two-thirds up (Samsung Galaxy style) and the IR blaster on the top. It would have also been cool if they had put a second wide-angle IR blaster on the back of the phone (for example somewhere near the camera lens). The gyroscope could determine which IR port would be active...when the phone is horizontal, it would use the IR port on top, and when the phone is upright and in the normal viewing position it would switch to the IR port on the back. This would permit you to hold your phone in a normal manner and push the remote app buttons without having to swing your phone horizontally and point it at your equipment like a traditional remote control, which is kind of silly when you think about it.
checksum123 said:
I don't have any issue with the power button placement, btw how many times do you use the power button when using your phone? Only once, and that's when you pick it up
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Exactly. Everyone needs to stop complaining about where the power button is, pick up ya damn phone and turn it on and then everything you need is well within reach.
For me personally I don't care I like the button where it is, I usually leave my phone on a flat surface and when I pick it up or turn it on my index finger is already in the general area. NBD.
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I prefer the power button at the top. Having previously owned the S2, Note, S3, Note 2, I am glad the power button is not opposite the volume buttons!!

[Q] Can capacitive buttons be remapped?

Coming from almost any other Android phone, Samsung can be difficult to get used to. The capacitive buttons, menu and back are swapped on Samsung's as opposed to almost every other phone.
Is there a way to swap the buttons without root?
mtoomey79 said:
Coming from almost any other Android phone, Samsung can be difficult to get used to. The capacitive buttons, menu and back are swapped on Samsung's as opposed to almost every other phone.
Is there a way to swap the buttons without root?
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Probably not. You will get used to it though. What is harder to accept is the clicky home button and inaccurate/slow fingerprint sensor.
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mtoomey79 said:
Coming from almost any other Android phone, Samsung can be difficult to get used to. The capacitive buttons, menu and back are swapped on Samsung's as opposed to almost every other phone.
Is there a way to swap the buttons without root?
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Not that I've seen, you need root to mess with key mapping.
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Probably not. You will get used to it though. What is harder to accept is the clicky home button and inaccurate/slow fingerprint sensor.
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My fingerprint scanner is fast and I'd say 90% accurate as long as its dry (been a few times my fingers are wet after eating/drinking that it is unable to read). My problem is sometimes the home button clicks, but does not register. It's not add loss of a click Fogg so I think I'm just not pressing right lol.
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Yes. You can swap them. I do it. Use all in one gestures and galaxy buttons. One will swap, the other will turn off the backlight so you don't get confused. No root needed (obviously).
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Not that I've seen, you need root to mess with key mapping.
My fingerprint scanner is fast and I'd say 90% accurate as long as its dry (been a few times my fingers are wet after eating/drinking that it is unable to read). My problem is sometimes the home button clicks, but does not register. It's not add loss of a click Fogg so I think I'm just not pressing right lol.
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Mine is/was really slow and only seems to work 50 to 75% of the time. Sometimes it takes two or three tries to get it to work. I also hated seeing the Lockscreen before it unlocked. Overall it was a crappy experience and one of the biggest reasons I'm selling it. Oddly enough, TouchPiss isn't one of them.
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Yes. You can swap them. I do it. Use all in one gestures and galaxy buttons. One will swap, the other will turn off the backlight so you don't get confused. No root needed (obviously).
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That works, thanks for the tip.
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goblygoop said:
Yes. You can swap them. I do it. Use all in one gestures and galaxy buttons. One will swap, the other will turn off the backlight so you don't get confused. No root needed (obviously).
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This gets it done. Thanks.
What about an option to play next / last media track by using the volume keys? Or long press home for torch. I'm on a rooted s3 still and am looking to upgrade but I think remapped buttons will be one of the biggest things I'll miss from xposed.
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Probably not. You will get used to it though. What is harder to accept is the clicky home button and inaccurate/slow fingerprint sensor.
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Check out easyHome in the play store. Changes home button to act like a capacitive button.
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Check out easyHome in the play store. Changes home button to act like a capacitive button.
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Thanks for the suggestion. That app is extremely unreliable and not much use though. Im slowly getting used to the home button.
Is it possible to map a long press of the buttons to a specific button like 'switch to last app' or 'kill foreground app' etc?
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Is it possible to map a long press of the buttons to a specific button like 'switch to last app' or 'kill foreground app' etc?
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Kill foreground app: yes
Last app: no
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