10" Tablet with sim card - Hardware Hacking General

Hey guys
Not sure where to post this, so feel free to report and move.
I am after a 10" tablet with Android O/S that has SIM card option, the purpose of the Tablet is for Google Maps only. I had a ASUS Transformer and the GPS was so bad I took it back (read reports of aluminium back causing problem).
The reason I am after a SIM card option, is to improve the GPS location; I currently have a Samsung S4 phone too.
Any help is appreciated.

Looking for Tablet Recommendation
As I was looking at the ASUS Transformer, I'll post my query her rather than start a new thread.
My ViewSonic gTablet finally died and I'm looking for a new 10" Tablet. The gTablet certainly had it's issues, but I liked it well enough once I found the right ROM. I'd like to know what the community would recommend for me.
Let me start by saying I'm a bargain shopper, but I'd rather spend $500 on something good than $250 on junk. I really would like to keep this in the $250 range and at the moment I can't go over $350. (The 32GB Transformer can currently be found for the low $200s)
WiFi only. No data plan.
I need a front and rear camera, and they should work with Skype. (I can live with just the front working w/skype)
HDMI out is very important, but not a deal breaker.
Powerful video processor
GPS would be nice, not essential
Strong ROM support from XDA
Milamber explictly asks for a SIM card. Are there 10" tablets that wouldn't take one?
Thanks for any and all input,
Andy
Found the **DEVICE SUGGESTION THREAD** http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50017528. Reposted question there.

Have a look at the Samsung galaxy note 3g or lte as I have the late version and it is amazing.
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mrsimpson321 said:
Have a look at the Samsung galaxy note 3g or lte as I have the late version and it is amazing.
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That's a phone, not a 10 inch tablet.

Check out the Lenovo S6000-H. We got one some month ago and it works quite fine.

how about note 10
Galaxy Note 10.1 3G & WiFi would be a perfect fit

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Galaxy tab at woot for 259.99+5 shipping

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" 16GB Android Tablet - Wi-Fi + 3G
$259.99
+ $5 shipping
http://www.woot.com/
until 10pm pacific time tomorrow.
I don't own one, I'm over in the nook color forums mostly. Just thought someone might like to know if they were thinking of buying.
You do have the option of sprint 3g with this one.
nicbennett said:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" 16GB Android Tablet - Wi-Fi + 3G
$259.99
+ $5 shipping
http://www.woot.com/
until 10pm pacific time tomorrow.
I don't own one, I'm over in the nook color forums mostly. Just thought someone might like to know if they were thinking of buying.
You do have the option of sprint 3g with this one.
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I saw this too....Not bad. Only issue I have with this deal is that it's refurbished with only a 90-day warranty from woot and then you're on your own if it takes a crap.
hmmmm........
BubbaRob1978 said:
I saw this too....Not bad. Only issue I have with this deal is that it's refurbished with only a 90-day warranty from woot and then you're on your own if it takes a crap.
hmmmm........
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Refurbs r okay but ya if craps u got a whole lot of cleaning to do
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And I litterally just got one on eBay for $300... Do I return it and get this one? Or just stick it out as a decision I've made?
Andrewb19 said:
And I litterally just got one on eBay for $300... Do I return it and get this one? Or just stick it out as a decision I've made?
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Return and get this one. Unless eBay one is new.
In Australia they are going for 299 new
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
Ok... i want one but i guess they dont send to sweden...
Given this deal, can the Sprint Tab be rooted and connected to Verizon's CDMA 3g, or is it permanently tied to Sprint's 3g network?
I'm thinking about buying it. I'm on the Viewsonic G Tablet forum only, so I don't know much about the Galaxy Tab development. How functional is the Honeycomb port for the Galaxy Tab? I just got Honeycomb installed on my GTab and so far its really good for an alpha build. The only thing not working is flash plugin, camera, and video hardware acceleration.
I just got mine from their last sale, and it works great, have had some over the air upgrades. I, too, have a viewsonic. I like the Galaxy size and the main reason was the built in GPS... Makes the Copilot work more reliable compared to the bluetooth Viewsonic. Of course the Viewsonic big screen is nicer to read documents and web...
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Just bought one. I've got the wifi only version right now and really enjoy it. I'm listing that guy on ebay right now and I'm going to start the auction at $260 or so. It'll sell and I'll basically get upgraded hardware (faster processor, BT 3.0) at no cost. I'm down with that.
this must be limited availability... this is monster deal for 3G. thats 180euro
So If I have a current sprint plan with unlimited data, can this be added just like an extra line? obviously that wouldn't include the sprint hotspot. Or, will they require a separate plan?
I am about to hit Buy now, but is it worth it. Any serious opinions on the device from real users is what I like to hear, not reviewers. I own an iPad 2, which is hard to beat. Im no apple_boy either. Its the best thats why I own. Anyways I want a new Android tablet, I have owned one last year (Camangi WebStation) but I want to give it another go. How is the DEVin here, are there a few good ROMs?
I'm in for one, ready to upgrade from my Nook Color. Looking forward to the 1ghz processor and ff camera.
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I am about to hit Buy now, but is it worth it. Any serious opinions on the device from real users is what I like to hear, not reviewers. I own an iPad 2, which is hard to beat. Im no apple_boy either. Its the best thats why I own. Anyways I want a new Android tablet, I have owned one last year (Camangi WebStation) but I want to give it another go. How is the DEVin here, are there a few good ROMs?
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There are a few ROMs available... not near as active as say the HD2 forums or the Xoom forums... Overcome is pretty much the dominant ROM for GSM tabs. Alterbridge has both a 2.2 and a 2.3 rom available at the moment, and Spacemoose1 is currently working on development for Honeycomb for both the GSM and CDMA devices. If I didn't have one of these already, I'd be buying it... Someone point Deeper-Blue to this post so He and Space can develop HC together...
I've got a Nook Color as well and I am considering buying the G Tab on Woot too.
Not sure if I am going to pull the trigger on it, though. Besides cameras and a mic, what else would it give me that my rooted Nook Color doesn't have?
so it might be worth it. I was about to pull the trigger on the ASUS Transformer, but I went to best Buy this morning and it was sold out. I was available online there for like the past 3 days, now SOLD OUT
But I keep seeing these Galaxy Tabs for sale, some pretty good deals, its making me wonder if I should go Honeycomb, the post for this could be a ways away.
Put one on order for my dad, he's been drooling over my g tablet but I'm sure he'll be happy with one of these galaxy tabs. Couldn't beat the price.
Deal hit slickdeals, better hurry
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2957695
Would this work in India? Reliance CDMA. Oh, and I cant seem to find any info about it having a sim card slot or not

Torn between this and the Nexus!

I know I can't be the only one out there. I'm just really unsure about the Note's size... I'm a tall guy, with big hands, but its just seems that bit too big?
Mind you, I've been using my Tab 7.0 as a phone for a good 3 weeks!
Is it really usable with one hand? By that I mean, can I fire off a quick text with one hand? If its a yes, I'll order it now!
Thanks for anything useful you have to say!
I'm in the same situation like you!
I'm currently with AT&T at the moment, wondering if I should sell my iPhone 4S (only reason I got it was because of its high resale value) to buy a Note to use, or wait until the Nexus comes to Verizon and sell my iPhone and use that money for the Nexus.
I really like the size of the Note and would love to use it during school, but I kind of want to see how the Nexus looks in real life first before making my decision.
I would also rather be on Verizon's network to be honest, with it's double data promotion helping its case even more.
Im thinking I may just go for the nexus now, I've not had a pure android yet (from stock) and it looks fluid as anything! IMO Touchwiz slows down Android (I own both the Tab and original Galaxy S).
Still can't seem to click buy on either though!
Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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I'm not worried about pockets, my 7.0 tab fits in my pockets! I just thought.... If I buy this I can sell my Tab and put that towards this, as it'll replace it anyway!
I'll sell my tab on eBay me thinks!
EDIT: Tab in the marketplace, once thats sold, I will be buying note. Just found out that Nexus uses a poor GPU. I know its twice the speed of Galaxy S, but I'd rather have samsungs latest chip!
I just ordered a white Note from eBay. The way I look at it, an Aosp ICS rom will come eventually. Then you have the option be it Aosp, MIUI, or Touchwiz. And if one doesn't come fast enough, use the Note then sell it when the Nexus is available to you. I have an HTC right now and I switch between Aosp and Sense and its nice to have the choice.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
Bigmille said:
Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
Portability
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
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You are welcome, Amazon.de normally ship the phone out the next working day and it will take two more days for delivery via CityLink.
Also CityLink web tracking might tell you the phone will arrive the next working day after Amazon has shipped the Note. Don't belive them and don't panic when the tracking don't get updated for the 1st 24hrs.
Xaddict said:
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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I'm looking forward to a stylus! As much as Jobs hated them, you can't beat them for accuracy. Web browsing was easier on my 2.8" screen on my HTC Diamond thanks to a stylus!
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
ik911 said:
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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I suppose I could claim the VAT back.... If its not in the next few days I might have to give the white one a miss
I'm in the same boat as you. I've been mulling over this decision for about 2 weeks at least
Here's my pros and cons, and these are too me, a US AT&T user still in contract:
Note Pros:
- Screen
- CPU
- Battery
- Staying with AT&T
Cons:
- Importing and Warranty
- No ICS yet. This is big as it looks like exchange support is greatly improved there, and I'd like to ditch Touchdown
I don't consider the stylus much of a pro personally - I don't think I'll use it
Nexus Pros:
- Vanilla ICS
- NFC
- LTE sim swap with my Xoom (this is kinda minor, as WiFi hotspot is basically the same except that I can conserve my phone's battery if I were to go on a road trip)
- Better dev and app support because it will be more popular
Nexus Cons:
- very worried about battery life with LTE. I'd hope to go data only too, so I'd have GooVe IP signed in all the time.
- smaller screen, though it might be OK as I've had a Dell Streak and so many apps don't deal with gigantic screens very well.
- maybe slightly worse camera from my investigations
I probably should just buy the Note and be done with it, but I want to see what Verizon's off contract price is. if it's $600 that's hard to then justify getting a Note for around $750 I think. $650-700 will be a note autobuy I think... then again my ETF would be around $150, but going data only will save in the long run, but not sure if I can reliably recieve calls on GrooVe IP... meh... decisions.
There IS a simple solution........... JUST GET BOTH !!!
It is what I am doing....... can't help myself
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
It's still too early to comment on battery life, but so far we're not seeing any issues. While the Nexus feels quite snappy it isn't as mind bendingly fast as some Gingerbread devices (the Galaxy Note comes to mind)
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The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
where can I get the 2.3.6 version? I tried to update my phone but it said my phone was all updated.
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Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
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Agree with everything you said. I've been doing my research on both since I had been going back and forth on what phone I really wanted and even went with just the AT&T GS2 for a few days but in the end both the GS2 and Nexus both are inferior devices to what the Note offers and outside of getting ICS early I can't see any reason to buy the Nexus unless you just need a smaller phone. I'd rather wait and get ICS shortly down the road than to get it a few weeks earlier on lesser hardware.

TF300T $279.99 at Best Buy this Black Friday

Is this tab a good deal for $279? Its the 16gb version norm price is $379. I just wanna make sure everything works well. Any problems with this tab? I have the Lenovo Ideapad K1 and the biggest problem I have with it, is its has horrible WiFi signal and I haven't seen any WiFi issues with this tab. But I did notice that this tab doesn't have gorilla glass. So I also want to make sure the glass doesn't get to scratched easily and that its sensitive enough.
Thanks, Dev
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Good luck actually getting one, but I think it sounds like a good deal. Remember this does have expandable memory, so really internal storage isn't a huge problem. I had the transformer prime for a while, loved it, but couldn't justify the expense so I returned it. This thing is the exact same device with a plastic back and slightly lower res screen If this sale is going on cyber Monday too I'm certainly snagging one.
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Is this tab a good deal for $279? Its the 16gb version norm price is $379. I just wanna make sure everything works well. Any problems with this tab? I have the Lenovo Ideapad K1 and the biggest problem I have with it, is its has horrible WiFi signal and I haven't seen any WiFi issues with this tab. But I did notice that this tab doesn't have gorilla glass. So I also want to make sure the glass doesn't get to scratched easily and that its sensitive enough.
Thanks, Dev
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Newegg has the 32gig for 299.99....
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It sounds like a good deal to me. I'd run with it. I have the 32 GB version, with another 32 GB micro SD card. I paid $297 for mine on the no tax weekend at Micro Center in St. Louis. These were on clearance. I've had 4 tablets already, the Acer Iconia 500, the iPad 2, the Galaxy Tab 2, and this one. I've enjoyed this one more than all the others.
Today, a boss of mine, that I see once a year, came in, and noticed he had an iPad with him. I really wanted to say to him, "So, you got a pretentious hunk of junk, huh?" But I figured that would hurt his feelings.
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Thanks guys for your input! I forgot to mention that I can order it online! So I think I might order one! I have plenty of external micro SD cards so storage space isn't a big deal for me.
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Thanks guys for your input! I forgot to mention that I can order it online! So I think I might order one! I have plenty of external micro SD cards so storage space isn't a big deal for me.
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When will it be available at that price online? Next Friday only or the following Monday? I wanna snatch one as well.
AndroidFTW11 said:
When will it be available at that price online? Next Friday only or the following Monday? I wanna snatch one as well.
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I think the Thursday before but I can't remember. I'll have to check when I get home.
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Admiral2145 said:
Newegg has the 32gig for 299.99....
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And Office Depot's two day Black Friday sale is the same - - 32 gb for $299.99 http://www.2012blackfridayads.com/officedepot/
Admiral2145 said:
Newegg has the 32gig for 299.99....
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New Egg has it up to 349.99, but Walmart has it a 319.99 right now. I am going to get Best Buy to price match and will pick it up in store today. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Asus-TF30...-Cream-Sandwich-Operating-System-Red/21104522
You can get the 32Gb version at Walmart for 319. You can't walk in the store and get it for that though. You have to pay for it online and then go get it. I just did that.
texascbx said:
You can get the 32Gb version at Walmart for 319. You can't walk in the store and get it for that though. You have to pay for it online and then go get it. I just did that.
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I got it by calling best buy customer support then picked up in store. Liking it so far for the most part other than some apps not being compatible.
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http://1saleaday.com/wireless/ has the 32GB TFT300 for $279.99, 4.99 S&H, plus no sales tax for most.
TigerDirect.com has the TF300T 16GB for $229.99. Can't beat that deal.
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TigerDirect.com has the TF300T 16GB for $229.99. Can't beat that deal.
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I couldn't find that price on tigerdirect.com. I saw it for 329.can you post the link where you saw if for 229?
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If you don't mind refurbished, the TF300 16GB and Keyboard dock together are $300 today on Woot.com.
http://www.woot.com/offers/asus-10-1-tablet-keyboard-dock
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I couldn't find that price on tigerdirect.com. I saw it for 329.can you post the link where you saw if for 229?
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Same here...sure would like the link so could pick it up at Bestbuy and not hassle with Black Friday crowds! Like the $299 OfficeDepot price for the 32GB but w/sd card don't think I need the add'l 16GB. Other than production apps that can't use SD storage, any major benefit for getting the 32Gb model?
Also (and new thread likely best, but...) this'll be my first tablet. Mostly for multimedia, browsing, e-books, & general game playing - considering Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 too. Though Galaxy might(?) have a better multimedia experience (not so much into the Galaxy's "extra" GUI), but TF300T seems to have better multimedia & overall performance. Am I losing much if any on graphics & sound in going for the better performance? Sorry, I know it's been discussed some elsewhere, but need some additional thoughts to help me know I'm not making the wrong choice!
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Same here...sure would like the link so could pick it up at Bestbuy and not hassle with Black Friday crowds! Like the $299 OfficeDepot price for the 32GB but w/sd card don't think I need the add'l 16GB. Other than production apps that can't use SD storage, any major benefit for getting the 32Gb model?
Also (and new thread likely best, but...) this'll be my first tablet. Mostly for multimedia, browsing, e-books, & general game playing - considering Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 too. Though Galaxy might(?) have a better multimedia experience (not so much into the Galaxy's "extra" GUI), but TF300T seems to have better multimedia & overall performance. Am I losing much if any on graphics & sound in going for the better performance? Sorry, I know it's been discussed some elsewhere, but need some additional thoughts to help me know I'm not making the wrong choice!
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My advice is to make sure you can return it just in case you're not happy with it. I/O issue plagues most of current Asus pads so in the end, lower price may not justify the frustration. Again you might be ok with it but just in case.
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aznmode said:
My advice is to make sure you can return it just in case you're not happy with it. I/O issue plagues most of current Asus pads so in the end, lower price may not justify the frustration. Again you might be ok with it but just in case.
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Good point - just checked with Office Depot and they do give 14 days to return it for a full refund. So that shouldn't be a problem...
As for the I/O issue, how prevalent is it? I did a quick search and did find some references. This has me greatly concerned and if it's that big problem of a problem, then about only alternative is the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. But being a dual core, was worried it'd be noticeably slow in running apps, browsing/viewing multimedia, etc. Did like some aspects of the Galaxy, but was really leaning towards the TF300T.
Just came across one XDA thread from August discussing ASUS working on fixing this and the OTA 4.0.4 greatly helped the benchmarks. Is it possible a new kernel or update has corrected the issues at this point? Another in September mentioned using a custom ROM...I plan on rooting it, though just as with my EVO3D thought I'd stay with the stock rooted ROM. I'd figure this an option to help correct the problem if I do encounter it (and if necessary, run a different ROM)?
Lastly, how difficult is it to root?
Thanks much for the insights!!
Can you get the Black version only at BB? I would love to get that one but online for $279..
falcon26 said:
Can you get the Black version only at BB? I would love to get that one but online for $279..
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I noticed on the Office Depot Black Friday ad that they have the TF300T 32Gb for $299.99 (advertised as blue so may not be the black you want). Some items are available for sale online tomorrow - Update: turns out have to go to the store on Friday morning to get this deal. I know it's an extra $20 and quite possibly blue, but still a good deal...
And yes, after reading more I feel less wary of the i/o issue. Some had encountered it, others not and seemed that OTA updates (possibly moving from ICS to Jelly Bean) helped. Plus rooting and running a custom ROM is another option or worst case, bring it back...
Looks like another round of learning regarding unlocking the bootloader and rooting. Was reading a bit about being able to do OTA updates if rooted (but not unlocked), and restoring root after. Seems to me on my EVO3D doing OTA's after unlocking & rooting weren't recommended, and that may be the case here too? I do have to go back and do more reading on these topics!

8.4 same fate as the Galaxy Tab 7.7?

I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
As underwhelming as Android updates have been since 4.1, I don't think it really matters anymore. My Moto X got updated from 4.3 to 4.4... I barely noticed.
RipplingHurst said:
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
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The 7.7 was Verizon I think. Anything involving Verizon will be very slow on updates. They are the worst at approving manufacturer updates and pushing them out. HTC leaked a final 4.3 for my former DROID DNA 5 and it took Verizon 5 months to release it.
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All Samsung's high-end tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are running the same h/w and screen resolution. That's got to make coding updates faster and easier as so much is shared between them.
I'm optimistic that it will be different from the Tab 7.7 for a couple reasons. As mentioned above, the hardware and screen resolution is nearly identical across multiple devices this time, where the 7.7 was the only tablet with its processor and screen resolution (the Note 1 and Tab 7 Plus were the closest two. A phone and another low selling sparsely available tablet). The international version was updated slowly, but far quicker than the Verizon LTE version. However, I think it didn't sell well at all, was expensive, and was banned from multiple countries before or after its rocky unveiling (remember Apple had the courts remove it from the stand at IFA?). It became the best product that Samsung couldn't sell and therefore had little incentive to support it.
Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Samsung not supporting it, just that I'm logically hopeful this time around.
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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag ..
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I still have a 7.7 and it's on JB4.1.2.
It's smooth as... AND twice as quick.
I remember the lag on the Default ICS ROM and I was very disapointed. Especially as I had an S2 with less power but it's UI was silky smooth.
Fortunately the was a developer UpInTheAir who kept the device moving forward. His first ICS Sky High rom for the 7.7 was a god send.
And now, if it were not for the Pro 8.4 I'd still want to keep my 7.7 with the JB 4.1.2 release available.
The point however to take from your comments is that WITHOUT xda community the 7.7 I would have been very disappointed. It would have stayed the best screen/worst OS tablet/paperweight device available. As it is now with this ROM it is a better alternative than for Apple iPad Mini 1st Gen.
I hope that the 'Tab Pro' given it's 'Pro' status Samsung keeps with the updates. (Given I've just ordered one)
Welcome to the world of Samsung. You'll be lucky if you get more then 2 updates or a year of support. They're in the business of making a quick buck then dump their customers to desolation.
Got the iPad mini. Samsung scares me too much. If I was going for the 10.1, okay, but the 8.4 may turn out to be not popular enough and will be forgotten.
I have a Mini Retina. Sorry but there is no comparison to the 8.4 Pro. Sure the Mini has a nice aluminum back (which you need to immediately put into a case as it scratches super easy) and a slightly more robust battery but that's about it.
The Samsung wins everywhere it matters, battery notwithstanding.
I'll put the two side by side and take some pics of the screen. The Mini Retina is much dimmer (my biggest beef btw with the LG G Pad) than the Samsung irrespective of what brightness levels you set it at.
The other biggie is the Micro SD slot. The Tab Pro + a 64GB Micro SD card (80 GB total) is about $160 cheaper than a 64GB Mini Retina. Plus the accessories are much cheaper (mind you less selection of cases).
Now that Sandisk has released a 128GB Micro SD for $120 that equates to a 144GB tablet for $200 cheaper than the 128GB Mini Retina.
Plus if you are an avid reader, you cannot beat the reading apps on Android. The closest is Marvin for IOS and its still barely usable.
Just curious, is tab pro 8.4 capable of making phone calls? and i mean real phone calls like tab 7.7
Buy the LTE version and you can...
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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If you take a look at any reviews of LTE version then you can see Phone Application as well. And this fact is known, I' m waiting for the same thing...
hmm. so it's based on the picture of the phone application huh? okay2 ^^ thanks
Yeah i 'm also getting the LTE version to make phone calls
The reason the 7.7 didn't get a lot of support is due to it being banned in many countries so without them able to sell it they had no reason to keep it updated.
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I ordered the 8.4 LTE from Hong Kong... it'll arrive in 10 days.
I use the 7.7 now as my phone. I'm expecting to use the 8.4 as my phone too.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 vs Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, Worth Upgrading?
Hi
Thanks for this topic.... above notes and comments. This has has been eating my brain for weeks....
I am also in this dilemma to, see actual comparison of two in terms of spec here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/6739,8663 (If im not allowed to add this, mods please remove link and keep post, thanks)
I wanted to know if it’s worth upgrading too or not, as I also used it for phone calls and video calls. I was wondering can the tab s 8.4 4G/LTE work in the same manner or are they different now? Also build quality on the Tab 7.7 is second to none. How does it compare to Tab S 8.4?
See that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 had the following available:
Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
Does the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 have the same fate as the Tab 7.7. Meaning does it have the same capabilities of "Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS"
Does anyone know, if yes please advise. As I’m thinking of selling my tab 7.7 32gb Wi-Fi and 3G to purchase a tab s 8.4 WiFi & 4G/LTE…
Thanks

So who's getting one?

I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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Yep. Have the tab pro 8.4 too. Wanted Sony, but the Z2 tab was too big.
This should be perfect. But my tab is pretty new.
It probably won't be available in India for a couple of months anyway.. Will seriously consider it.
I just saw a hands on video on android central. It looks like it would give me pretty much the same experience as my tab 8.4(aside from remote play obviously) . So the only thing motivating me now is my love for gadgets and ridding myself of this home button. ?
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I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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the remote capablilties may be port able
I need to see reviews first, especially the battery life... If GSMArena will rate the video playback for more than 10hrs, then it's golden...
Sub 300 ppi is a deal breaker for me.
Also priced at same level as Retina Mini and Samsung Tab S. However Samsung Tab S has 20% off code which is really its true RRP. Therefore this Sony is expensive.
Only positive is that it looks like it has a dialler. If so I would consider using this as my daily device over my Sony Ultra. (I rarely make or receive phones calls anymore as communication is usually through data).
I am considering this as a replacement for my Ultra. Unlocked SGP621 for me, I am already prepared for an imported unit since I am very skeptical against US availability for an unlocked, unbranded LTE edition. The lack of such information yesterday indicate a huge risk for a new Z2 Tablet LTE flop, aka carrier exclusivity, disabled radio bands and bloatware.
So I expect to buy it from either At GSM or Negri Electronics as I usually do (I got my Xperia Z half a year before a crippled T-Mobile version came and I also owned the Ultra for a similar length of time before they gave it a US release).
I made a mockup of the Z3 Tablet Compact yesterday and it could replace the Ultra without too many problems, it is just a few mm wider than the CP12 power cover I use. Since I read a lot on my device, big screens are a necessity and since it is a tablet, I expect fully operational 213 DPI as well with build.prop edit. The more I check it out, the more convinced I am about it as the "Ultra 2".
One thing I really hope is that they give it a proper keyboard cover, then it would also replace my TF700 as well. They had the BKB50 for the Z2 Tablet but cancelled it but I hope a "BKB40" will arrive for this new baby.
The dialer is also the key enabler as an Ultra replacement in my case as well and I am not afraid of buying an imported device. Getting it through a US carrier is just out of the question.
Well I just bought the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I wont be getting the Z3 Tablet Compact... but I really want the launcher...
Definitely pre-ordering one as soon as the option is available in the US. I love my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, but the remote play option is too good to pass up. Not to mention the fact that it's waterproof.
Waiting for the price. It it's closer to $300 I might consider it other wise Tab S 8.4 for me.......
Have the Tab S 8.4. I'm just sick of Samsung's crapwiz and this stupid home button. I'm so tempted to get the z3 tablet, but I will wait for the next Nexus 8.9 I could get behind.
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I'll be getting the LTE version unlocked @ ATGSM like E90 mentioned. Hopefully it'll work out to be my only device for 90% of my tasks (calls, texts, reading, browsing, etc.) Can't wait til Nov. 4th!
Also from the overseas pricing it looks like it'll be $499 for the 16Gb LTE version.
Will this have "tap-to-wake"-functionality? Does anyone know?
November 4th is the release date? Man that's far they all look so good shield tab s
I'm interested, as long as they have a 32GB LTE version. Too bad Samsung keeps screwing up their tablets. Now I have to wait....
Unless something more interesting comes along before then.
Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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Hah it's funny how the first two posts mention the Tab Pro 8.4. So I got a Tab S 8.4 thinking it would be the ****, but I was disappointed by the performance of the Exynos CPU and Touchwiz, as well as the Knox counter, and how development for the device didn't look very promising. I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for comparison, which I like more than the S, actually, but...
I just had/have this gut feeling there's going to be better devices in the near future. The Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (shoot whoever names these damn devices) is one such promising device. The other device I'm waiting to hear about definitively is the "Nexus 9" (if it's going to be called that), which is rumored to be an 8.9" 4:3 device.
Can anyone comment on how hackable I should expect this thing to be? I got a taste of a relatively dead development scene with these two Tabs; a far cry from my Nexus 4 which has tons of potential. I know that the Nexus 9 will probably be good on this front, but I've never bought a Sony tablet before.
I'm going to guess the nexus devices will always have the most active development because of how easy it is to unlock and go crazy. It's a little funny how few roms there are for my tab pro 8.4 considering how nice the hardware is.
I'm not seasoned enough to comment on the possibility of roms for these sony tabs. Evidently , nice hardware may not be a motivating factor. One plus, though is that it won't have knox. ?
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Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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That's not bad...not wonderful but not bad. Trying to figure out if waterproof is worth that much, or if I should go with a SHIELD Tablet.
So just heard it maybe white only 32gb for the US WiFi and lte version. Not sure why only white 32 but that's the latest info I am getting.
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