[Q] general help and understanding - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter

ccarter70 said:
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude read the stickies in the general forum. The s4 isn't so easy to root and rom

ccarter70 said:
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I rooted mine with Chaifire's Autoroot and it was easy
but after rooting you dont get the updates!
so i want to unroot to get the official updates!
anyone knows any way to root without cancelling the updates?( I KNOW THAT after each update the root will be gone ! but i can reroot after each OTA updates!)

Sina Irvani said:
I rooted mine with Chaifire's Autoroot and it was easy
but after rooting you dont get the updates!
so i want to unroot to get the official updates!
anyone knows any way to root without cancelling the updates?( I KNOW THAT after each update the root will be gone ! but i can reroot after each OTA updates!)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bet you're not on mk2 firmware, I bet he is. Chainfire isn't going to work.

Sina Irvani said:
I rooted mine with Chaifire's Autoroot and it was easy
but after rooting you dont get the updates!
so i want to unroot to get the official updates!
anyone knows any way to root without cancelling the updates?( I KNOW THAT after each update the root will be gone ! but i can reroot after each OTA updates!)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Root alone doesn't block the OTA. In fact, going from MF3 to MK2, you could first root with jortex's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577) and enable survival mode. Then after the OTA, you will still have root.

guut13 said:
Root alone doesn't block the OTA. In fact, going from MF3 to MK2, you could first root with jortex's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577) and enable survival mode. Then after the OTA, you will still have root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tnx but somehow I DON WANNA KEEP THE ROOT!
i want it gone! without getting all my apps wiped out and i jus wanna get my updates back!
can u show me a 100% safe way to do it?
tnx in advance

Sina Irvani said:
Tnx but somehow I DON WANNA KEEP THE ROOT!
i want it gone! without getting all my apps wiped out and i jus wanna get my updates back!
can u show me a 100% safe way to do it?
tnx in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're using supersu there is a full unroot method in the apps settings. Look there.

ccarter70 said:
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I rooted that phone with kingo root through the computer. Bloatware on the I removed bloatware with ROM toolbox pro however when trying to do ota update it looked for the bloatware and when it didn't find it ota failed. (looked that up in the failed log - hung on not finding chaton) flashed mk2 rom then only froze the bloatware. have to see if the next update will fail I don't think it will though because when I only froze bloatware on mf3 I did get the mj9 ota update successfully

Related

future ota updates on rooted but stock rom

Hi guys, I am a new member and know nothing about rooting phone. I just got my mt4g and the bloatapps are very annoying. I'm planning to follow rooting procedure on youtube and apply permanent root. I never root a phone before. Just one question: after rooted, will the phone still able to receive ota updates from tmobile and run normally? I am not going to flash any rom. I am keeping the stock rom but only remove stuff like yahoo, games, apppack, and some other crap that I am absolutely sure not needed on the phone. Thanks in advance guys.
hgtran7 said:
Hi guys, I am a new member and know nothing about rooting phone. I just got my mt4g and the bloatapps are very annoying. I'm planning to follow rooting procedure on youtube and apply permanent root. I never root a phone before. Just one question: after rooted, will the phone still able to receive ota updates from tmobile and run normally? I am not going to flash any rom. I am keeping the stock rom but only remove stuff like yahoo, games, apppack, and some other crap that I am absolutely sure not needed on the phone. Thanks in advance guys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooted phones may still receive updates via T-Mobile. However if you should install those updates your phone will get messed up. You need to call T-mobile and ask them to push the most current update to your phone, install it. Then root it. And from that point forward do not any install any update.
neidlinger said:
Rooted phones may still receive updates via T-Mobile. However if you should install those updates your phone will get messed up. You need to call T-mobile and ask them to push the most current update to your phone, install it. Then root it. And from that point forward do not any install any update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i c i was hoping that it will receive updates like before . THanks very much.
By messed up do you mean you would lose root(su) and s=off correct?
Crazydaddy said:
By messed up do you mean you would lose root(su) and s=off correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes plus alot more damage. it's just best to either update then hack/slash or avoid the update.

Root, unlock bootloader, and recovery

Hi all,
I just came from an HTC EVO 4G LTE and I sort of want to root right away. But, I've noticed there isn't an "all-in-one" root/unlock bootloader/flash recovery yet. Should I wait? The reason I ask is because I was reading some of the other threads and some people were saying they regret rooting and want to unroot and someone even mentioned something about accepting an update with the booatloader locked is a bad thing, possibly. Needless to say, I'm a bit confused. I guess I want to root so I can install TiBu and get tether to work.
Thanks...
The bootlocker is not locked on this phone. I'd use qbking's method to root the phone if you're desparate for root right away. Otherwise, I'd just suggest waiting. I'm guessing in weeks to come there will be custom roms and probably a universal method for rooting, possibly even a toolbox. Because the phone isn't even a week old, everything is still getting sorted out.
tntsjp said:
Hi all,
I just came from an HTC EVO 4G LTE and I sort of want to root right away. But, I've noticed there isn't an "all-in-one" root/unlock bootloader/flash recovery yet. Should I wait? The reason I ask is because I was reading some of the other threads and some people were saying they regret rooting and want to unroot and someone even mentioned something about accepting an update with the booatloader locked is a bad thing, possibly. Needless to say, I'm a bit confused. I guess I want to root so I can install TiBu and get tether to work.
Thanks...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Traitor!!!! Lol.
Sent from my EVO LTE
tntsjp said:
Hi all,
I just came from an HTC EVO 4G LTE and I sort of want to root right away. But, I've noticed there isn't an "all-in-one" root/unlock bootloader/flash recovery yet. Should I wait? The reason I ask is because I was reading some of the other threads and some people were saying they regret rooting and want to unroot and someone even mentioned something about accepting an update with the booatloader locked is a bad thing, possibly. Needless to say, I'm a bit confused. I guess I want to root so I can install TiBu and get tether to work.
Thanks...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just follow qbkings video. The motochopper method is legit. I rooted on day 1. using tibu and adaway and all the rest.
Delakit said:
Traitor!!!! Lol.
Sent from my EVO LTE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I gave my 4G LTE to my roommate... I loved it like the OG but the HTC EVO 3D (not so much)... Just got tired of HTC's slowness to update and problems with contact lags, etc. So far, I'm loving the S4
I think I'm going to resist rooting for another week. Let's see if I can.. Knowing myself, if i have nothing to do this weekend i will probably root it
Thanks you for all of your inputs...
wow, that was the easiest root I have ever done I think. There is no reason to wait, TWRP is here and that was so painless as well.
It's just as easy to unroot too. just flash the stock firmware and recovery via odin.

Question on stock root

I got my S4 on release day and I have been really reluctant to root because I am happy with the way the phone is. But now I am tempted to root for 2 reasons. I want to be able to use every app in the multi window view and to be able to move stuff to the SD card.
So my question is....If i just root my phone but dont put and rom or recovery on it what would I need to do if Android or Samsung released an update? The update would not work if I was rooted correct? Can someone link me on the process I would need to do to be able to install such an update?
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
Sent from the state where marijuana is not illegal !
chris_marsh said:
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
Sent from the state where marijuana is not illegal !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
Based on my limited knowledge, it is possible that if you take OTA, you may not be able to root again (if the OTA patches that root exploit). Hopefully the awesome Devs on here will be able to find another exploit, but it is possible that you may not be able to re-root.
jbarresi19 said:
Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
Sent from the state where marijuana is not illegal !
chris_marsh said:
Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
Sent from the state where marijuana is not illegal !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very good point in not waiting around for an OTA...they do take long as hell to push out....and I will ask in the QB King thread to see how OTAs work with that root process...Thanks so much

[Q] Root method for 4.4.2 OTA?

Are the old root methods for 4.3 still valid after taking the 4.4.2 OTA? I tried using kingo root but it will not work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
DJ0224 said:
Are the old root methods for 4.3 still valid after taking the 4.4.2 OTA? I tried using kingo root but it will not work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The way I understand it is they changed something in the code that broke the old roots. Were you rooted before the 4.4.2 OTA? There were many threads here warning against taking the OTA for the risk of loosing root. You may be without it for a while until someone finds a work around for the new code...
SomeFknGuy said:
The way I understand it is they changed something in the code that broke the old roots. Were you rooted before the 4.4.2 OTA? There were many threads here warning against taking the OTA for the risk of loosing root. You may be without it for a while until someone finds a work around for the new code...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I was not rooted beforehand. I just recently got the phone and love it. But man I would love to get root access for bloatware, adblock, ect. I guess i'll have to just keep an eye out for a new method when one drops.
Thanks for the quick reply though! :good:
Yeah, in the same boat here. I just got the phone on the day KK dropped, so I assumed the update when i first powered the phone on was an old one. If only I had known! LOL
Same here! Hope someone comes up with a solution soon.

Noob root question. If i get an OTA can i just flash SuperSU once im already rooted?

Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
me2151 said:
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
jluca98 said:
Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk
all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.

Categories

Resources