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[Q] Rooted LG Nexus 4.2.1 OTA Update stays ROOTED!?

I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my 4.2 version nexus 4 with ToolKit, then got the 4.2.1 OTA update, and updated it thinking my root would be gone but I realized my phone updated smoothly and stayed rooted? Any ideas why? Just curious? Will my phone stay rooted every time? Or am I such a noob that I'm really not even rooted anymore? I mean I still have SuperSU and the tweaks I made while I was running 4.2 rooted?

hey there is an app called OTA root keeper, you can install it and your phone will be able to keep the root.
Btw you are getting the ota update even though you are rooted so its time for me to rooted my device as well. what tool kit you used to root the device and could you give me some info.
thanks

cesar521 said:
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my 4.2 version nexus 4 with ToolKit, then got the 4.2.1 OTA update, and updated it thinking my root would be gone but I realized my phone updated smoothly and stayed rooted? Any ideas why? Just curious? Will my phone stay rooted every time? Or am I such a noob that I'm really not even rooted anymore? I mean I still have SuperSU and the tweaks I made while I was running 4.2 rooted?
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If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.

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heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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I didn't install cwm, I stayed with stock recovery, I now realized I did loose my root but I still have the superSU app installed? what are some ways of deleting the app? Would I have to root the phone again then delete it that way? or other ways?

heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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Yep, that was a pleasant surprise.

lost root too
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?

Same happened to me but i rooted using a different methods. I was advised to re root my n4 using the original method (just the rooting part, no need to unlocked as it's already locked) , it worked and I didn't end up with two super su or busy box.
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hankdu said:
Same happened to me but i rooted using a different methods. I was advised to re root my n4 using the original method (just the rooting part, no need to unlocked as it's already locked) , it worked and I didn't end up with two super su or busy box.
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what toolkit did you use

stephan moisan said:
what toolkit did you use
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I followed the guide here for rooting my phone
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=224861
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stephan moisan said:
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
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When you reroot just delete the extra apps..
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stephan moisan said:
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
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Just reroot with the toolkit, you'll be fine. And you don't have to delete the super su app. You will only have one su app after you reroot .
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Found another toolkit http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/

this is cool. just rooted yesterday and receive system update notification today. thanks for info
heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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98.15.66.en.US Update

Hi all,
My Razr M has been nagging me to install this update (98.15.66.en.US) for a week or two now. I have a few questions before I install it:
Has anyone noticed any changes in battery life / signal (for better or for worse) with this update?
Have any major features changes (besides JB stuff) come?
Can I still root after updating?
And most importantly - My bootloader is unlocked. Will that affect this update or will the update affect it?
Thanks!

xMopx said:
Hi all,
My Razr M has been nagging me to install this update (98.15.66.en.US) for a week or two now. I have a few questions before I install it:
Has anyone noticed any changes in battery life / signal (for better or for worse) with this update?
Have any major features changes (besides JB stuff) come?
Can I still root after updating?
And most importantly - My bootloader is unlocked. Will that affect this update or will the update affect it?
Thanks!
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1. I find battery life and signal to be about the same. Phone is smoother though.
2. A lot of it was fixes (bluetooth being the main one for me) Here is a summary of the Verizon announcement: http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-droid-razr-m-update-coming-with-tons-of-bug-fixes-20130416/
3. You can still root using MotoChopper or Matt's 1.20 utility
4. Should not be an issue.
Note that apparently once you install 4.1.2 you cannot go back to 4.1.1.

Coronado is dead said:
1. I find battery life and signal to be about the same. Phone is smoother though.
2. A lot of it was fixes (bluetooth being the main one for me) Here is a summary of the Verizon announcement: http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-droid-razr-m-update-coming-with-tons-of-bug-fixes-20130416/
3. You can still root using MotoChopper or Matt's 1.20 utility
4. Should not be an issue.
Note that apparently once you install 4.1.2 you cannot go back to 4.1.1.
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He can downgrade since he's unlocked. OP, good job on checking before updating... Also, you can re-root by flashing a root zip in recovery, no exploit required. Also worth noting you'll need to re-flash custom recovery if you have one. The update will replace it with the stock one
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sloosecannon said:
He can downgrade since he's unlocked.
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Ah, didn't realize that, thank you.

Thanks for the replies - looks like I'll be updating!
Edit: Update went great! Clockwork even prompted me to re-flash itself as recovery and re-install the SU binary, so I didn't even have to re-root!

Note 5110 USA Software Update today

Just for your info. When I woke up today I found that my Note N5110 has downloaded a new firmware update ans is asking for install. The firmware is 164.63 Mb. Of course I didn't installed because my tablet is rooted with civato custom kernel. Just be careful!

Mine is not rooted and still running original ROM. update was already downlaoded and just needed reboot and 5 minutes later back up !
Only info was that it had better stability..

Mine is rooted with custom recovery twrp installed, exposed framework, tweakbox, app options, and a few apps set up at 160dpi. When checking for an update the device tells me that my device has been modified and updates are not available. So I guess I have nothing to worry about

The pronlem is that when I try to check for software updates the device do not find anything but after a while in the notification bar appears even though I restart the tablet. My fear is to loose root after install the update.

Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!

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rfreeman said:
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
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I'm sorry dude but thanks you for your response. That was the reason I open this threat, to avoid people loosing root in their Notes 8.0 after this update.

rfreeman said:
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
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did you try CF-Root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839

I used Voodoo Root Keeper and restored root and it works fine. My unit was stock though.
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ExploreMN said:
I used Voodoo Root Keeper and restored root and it works fine. My unit was stock though.
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Yes, mine works fine too, but you should reboot after root restoration.

mingkee said:
Yes, mine works fine too, but you should reboot after root restoration.
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Just pulled this update now. Assuming its not 4.2.2? I saw 164MB and thought . . . maybe.
Shouldn't be too long though, didn't they claim 4.2.2 for a few other devices in June-July? :fingers-crossed:

Used voodoo ota root keper and went ahead and downloaded! Worked like a charm! Thanks guys!
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Definitely not 4.2.2. Don't see what's different.
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Has anyone been able to use frama root to unroot and re root

tonyz3 said:
Has anyone been able to use frama root to unroot and re root
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Unrooting the old version works perfectly. But you will not be able to root with Framaroot after you did the update...

p107r0 said:
did you try CF-Root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
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Confirmed CF-Auto-Root worked...THANKS!

FYI it may refuse to update because "device is modified" when it is unmodified. Fix is simple... Shutdown, remove sdcard, boot up and update. Replace sdcard later and all is good.
This is for those that are being mistakenly notified that their system is modified. I hope this saves someone some time.

I can confirm that CF-Root works with the new firmware. Just to play I downloaded the new firmware (MF1) and installed via Kies then applied CF-Root with Odin and my Note 8.0 is now rooted with the last software update version.

for us non-rooted folks, does anyone know what the update does. All it said was "stability improvements"

tke743 said:
FYI it may refuse to update because "device is modified" when it is unmodified. Fix is simple... Shutdown, remove sdcard, boot up and update. Replace sdcard later and all is good.
This is for those that are being mistakenly notified that their system is modified. I hope this saves someone some time.
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This didn't help on a friend's. His was rooted the exact same as mine. We tried unrooting, voodoo, factory reset, with and without sd... nothing works. Keeps saying it can't update because the device is modified. Anyone have any ideas? It was rooted with framaroot... no idea what else to do.
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ExploreMN said:
This didn't help on a friend's. His was rooted the exact same as mine. We tried unrooting, voodoo, factory reset, with and without sd... nothing works. Keeps saying it can't update because the device is modified. Anyone have any ideas? It was rooted with framaroot... no idea what else to do.
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Use KIES on PC. Connect the tablet and see if the update is available, if so update it with KIES.

Mystery system update

Hi all - I just received a notice on my Nexus 7 that there is a system update to install. I already installed 4.3 build JWR66V a couple weeks ago. Anyone know what this update is? I can't seem to find any information anywhere. My device is unlocked and rooted, running stock.

Yeah, google has released a newer version, so if you're on stock, why not update?
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It's an update from build JWR66V to JWR66Y, still Android 4.3.
If it's an OTA update, always install it.

It fixes a couple of issues after the 4.3 update
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.

Is it possible to update via ota when the device is unlocked and rooted? I updated it but it still says JWR66V, not Y. But when I look for an update it says up to date.
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Got the same issue as dakoookie
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Will this update unroot it?

Yes you'll still recieve the update it just hasnt been pushed to you yet if it says up to date. Factory images for it are already up waiting on someone to make a zip for CWM
nikola1970 said:
Will this update unroot it?
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OTA's always remove root

Apparently not. I updated but I still have root
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Me too, but gives error when installing =(
Rooter and bootloader unlock

Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.

nikola1970 said:
Had an error at then end of the installation but looks like it succeed to update it coz when i started my device it said that my applications are optimizating for the new version or something like that.
Build is JWR66V now, there is no any system updates now. Root is still there.
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Then the update failed the new OTA is JWR66Y

Lol the same questions.
Every.
Single.
Time.

FYI, I lost root.

Lost root also

NeoMagus said:
OTA's always remove root
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Guess nobody believed me :silly:
Anybody working on a zip yet for the update??
If you lost root and it put you back on stock recovery just reflash your recovery then supersu

For the folks that are having "error" during the update, restart your n7 then clear cache and data from framework services and check for updates again and it should come up. Also make sure you at least have 80% battery level:good:

It's supposed to fix the phantom screen touch problem and a few other things I'm sure someone will come up with root G.B.Y.
Sent from my Nexus 7

There's an OTA .zip for build JWR66Y here... but there appears to be a problem with symlink permisssions.
But there is also a solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745781&page=53 and a modified version of the OTA that fixes the permissions. Worked for me flashing via TRWP.
Incidentally, I also lost root after upgrading... not sure why... but not a big problem, as I reflashed SuperSU v1.51 in TWRP.
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Not quite sure what this very minor upgrade is supposed to accomplish, given 4.3 was only rolled out 4 weeks or so, ago.... but I suspect it has a lot to do with a minor screwup on Googles part, the details of which can be found here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382880.
I think (and I could be wrong), build JWR66Y is {AOSP JSS15J + Gapps}... in other words, JSS15J, released as Factory Stock instead of AOSP.
And the full factory image of JWR66Y is already available on the Google Developer website here and it's immediate predecessor, JWR66V has been 'pulled' and is no longer available for download.
Anyway, take a look at the above link, and you should see what I'm getting at.
Rgrds,
Ged.

grouper zip that was linked worked great here. No issues here now

On Rooted MF3, should I upgrade to 4.3?

Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Well I am on the horrible MF3 that requires the safestrap recovery to flash any compatible file. So I am not on a custom ROM I am only rooted.
I recently saw the notification that the new 4.3 update is ready to download .
My question is if I update will it still update and just take the root away? Or will I have to unroot and then upgrade?
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I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.

I accidently ota to mk2 from mf3 and re rooted with the mj6 method on att s4
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jsgates said:
I am still waiting on an answer for this also. I do know that it has been confirmed working to retain root when upgrading to 4.3 using "survival mode" in SuperSU. I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode". Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater (had it frozen previously to avoid the update) and Let the update to 4.3 download. I tried this twice and both times the 4.3 update failed to install at 25%. Maybe because I had previously uninstalled some of the AT&T BS apps. So I think I wasted $2.50 for SuperSU Pro. I have searched the forum and there are many people talking about having upgraded and retained root via this method, but nobody seems to want to clarify the steps of the process.
Some I am guessing maybe if you haven't removed any of the bloatware from your phone, you can use survival mode in SuperSU to retain root and take the 4.3 OTA update as normal. If you try it, let me know your mileage.
If I had any idea about MF3 and the locked bootloader I never would have gotten this phone. I hated iOS 7 and decided to come over to Android thinking modification would be much easier on the platform. With carriers locking bootloaders now, it's actually WORSE than having to wait for a jailbreak for an iOS version.
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Take a chill pill bro. This phone is still better than an iPhone. There is a safe root method now so no need to use survival mode just have to find a way to get to 4.3 which is all over the discussion boards.
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