I'm trying to follow the "Retail 3.1 CWM Recovery, Root..." instructions from the dev forum and have hit a big roadbump. I'm trying to install CWM and root using XP via Parallels from my iMac (which I've read others have done before) but for some reason XP is not recognizing the APX device (and the device is indeed in APX mode because a pop up comes up on the Mac). The other odd thing is that when the tab isn't in APX mode, it connects just fine in Windows, and I can even access it through adb. I'm hoping maybe someone has a tip or trick on how I can get Windows to recognize the device in APX mode so that I can then point it in the direction of the proper drivers, and eventually flash CWM. Any ideas?!?!
anybody?
Ugh...
Hmm, now I've connected and apparently successfully flashed CWM...but when I go to reboot to recovery via ADB, it just sits at that huge battery graphic on the black background. WTF
I could never get windows xp running in vmware (on a windows 7 x64 box) to recognize my tab.
Hi guys
I bricked my galaxy Spica a while a go und it was lieing around for a while no. I thought i could give it a try to unbrick it again.
The situation at the moment:
When I start it, bootloop.
Recovery isent working.
I can get it to download mode, but if i connect it to my win7 computer per usb, the pc doesent get a connection. The drivers are installed, but Odin cant connect to it.
I allso tryied AdamOutlers one click unbrick, but dident get a connection eather. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153310
I also tried to get it connected over ADB. With the command ADB devices I ony get "list of al atached devices" followed by nothing.
Anybody here has an idea what else i could do to get the phone connected to the computer? Or do you think its a permanent brick?
Greetz Hilmy
Did you try remove battery then after some minutes put it back and try download mode?
I tried that to. Dident help.
Any other ideas?
Hilmy said:
Hi guys
I bricked my galaxy Spica a while a go und it was lieing around for a while no. I thought i could give it a try to unbrick it again.
The situation at the moment:
When I start it, bootloop.
Recovery isent working.
I can get it to download mode, but if i connect it to my win7 computer per usb, the pc doesent get a connection. The drivers are installed, but Odin cant connect to it.
I allso tryied AdamOutlers one click unbrick, but dident get a connection eather. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153310
I also tried to get it connected over ADB. With the command ADB devices I ony get "list of al atached devices" followed by nothing.
Anybody here has an idea what else i could do to get the phone connected to the computer? Or do you think its a permanent brick?
Greetz Hilmy
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May be you need to make youself a jig!!!!
All you should need is download mode after a full charge (!) and then either do a full reset (use the options in Odin to reset apart from EFS clear ;-) ) and then you should be able to use download mode properly.
For the drivers, how does it show up in Device Manager?? I had this myself a while back and it was simply that the drivers didn't match how it was showing up. After searching around for a while I found various packages on samdroid.net and the right ones for me then worked fine. Either the Kies ones, the google ones or the Nexus S drivers from tom3q's CM7 build...
i have tried to put the new ics bootloader on my tablet from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 but it won't go into download mode. I can get it into apx mode but once i start any of the methods it disconnects the tablet from my computer and nothing happens. i have waited for at least 20min after each method attempt to make sure but it keeps happening. is anyone else having this problem or know of a way to fix it?
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i have tried to put the new ics bootloader on my tablet from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 but it won't go into download mode. I can get it into apx mode but once i start any of the methods it disconnects the tablet from my computer and nothing happens. i have waited for at least 20min after each method attempt to make sure but it keeps happening. is anyone else having this problem or know of a way to fix it?
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I would almost guess it's a pc driver issue. Put your tablet in APX manually, plug into the PC, and make sure Windows registers it as an APX device through Device Manager.
2 Sets of drivers you can use.
1. Acer Drivers
2. Google USB Drivers. (I use these, and install them manually)
Either should work.
I cant seem to put an unlocked bootloader on my device. ive tried too many times to count using AfterOTA and Civato's guide. blackthundrs apx tool,nothing. Cant seem to get out of APX mode. Are there any other options out thereto get this bootloader on my device?
Have u checked ur apx driver in device manager.? This gave me fits for hours. Redownloading acers drivers didnt work either. Apx driver still missing. I downloaded and installed google drivers and bang, apx driver installed. After that blackthud3r's flash tool worked seamlessly. Hope this helped. :good:
Am I stuck in APX mode with no USB connectivity and how do I get out of this? Here is what happened:
A500 with OTA Android Build: Acer_AV041_A500_1.033.00_PA_CUS1
Windows 7x64 with UAC turned off and restarted OS
- Launch Afterota v1.09
- Info tab > Install Driver ... "ACER ICONIA 3G DRIVER INSTALL"
- Boot A500 > ENABLE USB debugging
- Plug USB cable into A500 ... "Acer Iconia Tab A500 ... Your device is ready to use"
- Tablet Information ...
Tablet Serial : 11933073415
Tablet Cpuid : 028841854280E4D7
Tablet Sbk : 0x15290000 0x7FC6C006 0x47E52404 0x302C2103
Android Build : Acer_AV041_A500_1.033.00_PA_CUS1
Bootloader : 0.03.12-ICS
- Save Values to AcerIDs.txt
- Standard tab > Bootloader Ics v3.14.8 + Recovery Thor v1.7.3 > For A50X
- Install sys rw patched kernel (sys rw patch only, no overclocking)?
- Yes > OK
- A500 boots to APX Mode
- Afterota status ... flashing (about 1 minute) ... idle (no further activity ... ever)
A500 screen is BLACK, Power LED is ON, all the Afterota buttons are grayed out except for Unsoftbrick Browse.
Driver: OK - driver installed
Usb: ERROR - connect usb cable and enable usb debugging
I've tried reinstalling the USB driver multiple times and using different USB ports with no luck. I can turn A500 on and off by holding down the Power LED button for 3 seconds, but still a black screen.
Any ideas will be appreciated
May have a possible Fix for you
EDIT: OK May have a possible Fix for you I've just run this myself from apxmode and it worked for me...give it a whirl and see how you go!!!
check this thread here
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the 'mode' yr tab is in now - black screen with power lite....
i'm sure its waiting for the apx driver to load this will enable yr tab to enter the next stage where the flash takes place..(this stage is called different things depending on which tool u use...which doesn't help matters at all...) you will know when u enter "the next stage" because yr tab will display some white text "a500 apx mode" or "acer download mode" even "a500 bootloader mode" they're all the same -
so if u do not have the white text displayed the only conclusion one can come to is that the required driver cannot be found....(if I'm wrong on this then please put your 2cents worth in and maybe we can get this problem solved once and for all)
you need to have the "acer usb-boot recovery driver" displayed in your system tray under safely remove h/w or in device manager. Is it there....?
Device manager is yr friend always have it open when trying to troubleshoot flash issues.
connect yr tab to yr pc with yr mini usb data cable - the flash will definietly not happen if you're using a regular sized usb cab le!!!!
is the driver listed under usb controllers?
is there an "APX Device" listed?
if not disconnect and power yr tab off
then enter apx mode manually and reconnect cable and see if the boot-recovery driver installs itself - if it doesn't then reinstall the acer drivers....again!
also if it hangs on the black screen again
always disconnect yr usb cable close the program down and try again.
your other choice is to use civs nvFlash cos it requires yr tab to be in apx mode first - if it fails it will show you an error which will help
There seems to be alot of ppl of late getting stuck in this mode...and there seems to be no real solution to it.....sometimes you just have to keep at it until it works... if all else fails then u may need to downgrade back to HC and try from there!!!
Please let us know how u get on....
cheers
EDIT you need the android drivers too - theres a zip file in my cpuid thread if u need them
I've tried your suggestions, only using AfterOTA so far ... still no success.
These are the steps I've been following:
1) Disable UAC > Restart
2) Run Afterota.exe
3) AfterOTA (Info tab): Install Driver
4) Power on A500 (screen is still black, Power LED is white) ... plug in micro-USB cable from PC ... "driver successfully installed"
5) AfterOTA (Advanced tab): Unsoftbrick ... browse to ... recovery_thor17_403.img
6) AfterOTA (Advanced tab): Unsoftbrick ... browse to ... ics_boot_unlk_V6_500.bin
7) AfterOTA (Advanced tab): Unsoftbrick ... Install
[1/3]loading apx mode bootloader
[2/3]flashing recovery ..
This is where it gets stuck. No vibrating, the screen remains black (no text), nothing even after 5 minutes. I've repeated steps 5-7 trying two different USB cables plugged into the A500 micro-USB (small) port and also connected to different USB ports on my PC. Each time I shut down AfterOTA, unplugged the USB cable, powered off A500 ... then try again. I've also tried uninstalling and reinstalling the USB driver using AfterOTA.
Every time A500 is powered on and connected to USB ...
- "Acer USB Boot-recovery driver" is listed in Device Manager, USB controllers
- "APX" is listed as an Unspecified device in Devices and Printers (not in Device Manager)
- "Usb: ERROR - connect usb cable and enable usb debugging" listed in AfterOTA (Info tab)
It appears AfterOTA can't establish communication over the USB connection.
The very first time I used AfterOTA, A500 was still able to boot to ICS, the USB connection was OK and I was able to retrieve the Acer IDs and save them to a txt file. It was only after flashing "Bootloader Ics v3.14.8 + Recovery Thor v1.7.3" that I got the "Black" screen. It appeared the flashing was successful, as it had completed step [5/5] and then showed status "idle .."
I guess first priority is to find a something (maybe other than AfterOTA) to see if it can communicate with A500. Haven't tried civs nvFlash ... yet.
Thanks for your help.
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Every time A500 is powered on and connected to USB ...
- "Acer USB Boot-recovery driver" is listed in Device Manager, USB controllers
- "APX" is listed as an Unspecified device in Devices and Printers (not in Device Manager)
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ok, this is weird:
you are saying device manager reports the boot-recovery driver installed
But there is also an unspecified APX device????
Are u using win7/64 by any chance as there have been some issues reported by those users - are u able to try another pc??
Try manually installing the driver the apx device, by pointing it to the acer folder in program data
what happens there??
- "Usb: ERROR - connect usb cable and enable usb debugging" listed in AfterOTA (Info tab)
It appears AfterOTA can't establish communication over the USB connection.
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- while yr tab is in apx mode you will have no access to adb or usb b/c apx is using the USB connection -
I guess first priority is to find a something (maybe other than AfterOTA) to see if it can communicate with A500
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Yeh I wish it were that easy - I've been working on this for a whole week now, as lately there have been a number of "stuck in apx mode" reports - altho yours is the first of it happening using afterOTA - there just doesnt seem to be an easy way out of it,,,its happened twice previously on my tab - i got it working but i cant tell you how....i just kept trying over and over till it worked!!!
If you do give nvFlash a try - edit the .bat file and delete the "cls" commands this will give you a chance to 'see' whats going on...
another tip: after entering your sbk make sure the "system information" window pops up - it will show amongst other things your "chip uid" this is yr cpuid - if you carry on without yr tab being in "bootloader mode" you can end up with a really, truly 'brick' on yr hands - see the walkthru in my sig if you need further guidance
[1/3]loading apx mode bootloader
[2/3]flashing recovery ..
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once it completes "loading apx mode bootloader" this is when yr tab should vibrate and display the white text "acer a500 apx mode" which is what
leads me to believe that for some reason its waiting for the driver even when it seems to be installed already.....this is where i think the problem lay.
The only other tool that may work is timmydeans v4 it uses apx mode as well but will roll u back to HC, it also repartitions and 'resets' your tabs file system as alot of tabs have got stuck on "formatting partitions" with the flash...hopefully this won't happen to yours but you'll find out after running nvFlash tool...
apxFlash has never been able to pick up the fact my tab is in apx mode, it, like afterOTA relies on adb to gather the required tab info, and of course if it doesnt recognise your tab it doesnt know its connecteD!!! At least afterota recognises this by the fact the "unbrick" menus are not greyed out...
The only other thing i might suggest is putting yr tab in apx mode manually -
Turn tab off
use a paper clip to push and hold the reset button
then press and hold the power button UNTIL the power Lite comes on
count 3 secs and release
then after another second release the reset button
might seem strange thing to try, but you never know it may just 'jog' something into life
Yes ... I'm using Win7 64-bit.
When I plug the USB cable into the A500 ...
1) Acer USB Boot-recovery driver shows up in Device Manager ... listed under USB controllers
2) An APX icon shows up in Devices and Printers (not in Device Manager) ... it's listed under a category call "Unspecified"
When I unplug the USB cable, both 1) and 2) go away.
For manual driver install ... are you referring to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Acer Inc\ACER ICONIA TAB3G\Win7\ADB\x64\android_usb.inf
-or-
C:\Program Files (x86)\Acer Inc\ACER ICONIA TAB3G\Win7\USB_ethernet_rndis\x64\acer_usb_ethernet_rndis.inf
-or- something else?
I have an older laptop running Win7 32-bit, so I'll also try that too.
FCBelser said:
Yes ... I'm using Win7 64-bit.
When I plug the USB cable into the A500 ...
1) Acer USB Boot-recovery driver shows up in Device Manager ... listed under USB controllers
2) An APX icon shows up in Devices and Printers (not in Device Manager) ... it's listed under a category call "Unspecified"
When I unplug the USB cable, both 1) and 2) go away.
For manual driver install ... are you referring to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Acer Inc\ACER ICONIA TAB3G\Win7\ADB\x64\android_usb.inf
-or-
C:\Program Files (x86)\Acer Inc\ACER ICONIA TAB3G\Win7\USB_ethernet_rndis\x64\acer_usb_ethernet_rndis.inf
-or- something else?
I have an older laptop running Win7 32-bit, so I'll also try that too.
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something else, lol hold on....i'll just go check
I tried the paper clip / power button trick ... and then back to AfterOTA on Win7x64 ... no luck. I also tried AfterOTA on my laptop (Win7 32-bit) ... exact same problem.
ok this is where things get even weirder...and from memory it was a real pain to get this apx device installed....windows kept wanting an inf file but i'm positive that in the end i got it to install from a folder - i just cant remember how????
I cancelled the hardware wizard from doing its thing
then in the next window there are 2 options
let windows choose or let me choose - something like that
i kept trying let me choose and got nowhere
then i think i tried "search my computer" and chose the C drive - i'm sure it found the right ones that way
and i think i uninstalled all acer and android drivers, rebooted and reinstalled them before i could get any joy....i know it took a good 5-6 hours of mucking about - until finally something worked...
and yes def give 32 bit a go before we get too carried away!!!
oh no... i think i've jsut got stuck in apx mode...
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FCBelser said:
I tried the paper clip / power button trick ... and then back to AfterOTA on Win7x64 ... no luck. I also tried AfterOTA on my laptop (Win7 32-bit) ... exact same problem.
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then the only other thing to do is a rollback using timmydeansv4. run the tool without yr cable connected and wait for the instructions to put yr tab into manual apx mode - you wont have to worry bout that seeing as you're in it already!!! connect yr cable and click OK - enter cpuid and wait 10mins for it to do its thing...it won't take any longer than this -
let us know how you go!! and good luck m8
Where can I find timmydeansv4? Google search isn't finding it.
Thanks
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I tried the paper clip / power button trick ... and then back to AfterOTA on Win7x64 ... no luck. I also tried AfterOTA on my laptop (Win7 32-bit) ... exact same problem.
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i renamed the Acer Folder in Program Files
I then put my tab in manual apx
when the driver went to install
i cancelled "skip searching windows update"
in usb controllers an acer picasso boot recovery is listed
AND in Printers and Hardware the APX device is there - i didnt do anything with it at all
I fired up afterOTA but it couldnt see my tab
So I used civs V8 nvflash pckg
tab went into the proper apx mode with the txt displayed
it flashed and now running v8 and cwm 1.7.3
I did this via HC 3.1 win7 32
That worked !!!
I followed your The Chickens Guide to Flashing the bootloader manually after installing the USB driver from the Acer support website. Now I'm back to ICS without having lost any of my data or settings.
A couple of noob questions:
1) Would an ota update from Acer wipe out the newly installed V8 bootloader & Thor 1.7.3 recovery?
2) What's the most reliable way to root ICS?
Thanks so much for your patience with my problem!
FCBelser said:
That worked !!!
I followed your The Chickens Guide to Flashing the bootloader manually after installing the USB driver from the Acer support website. Now I'm back to ICS without having lost any of my data or settings.
A couple of noob questions:
1) Would an ota update from Acer wipe out the newly installed V8 bootloader & Thor 1.7.3 recovery?
2) What's the most reliable way to root ICS?
Thanks so much for your patience with my problem!
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Oh m8 thats made my day:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: rapt for u!!!
So u think it was the drivers??
1) don't know, we haven't recd an ota to find out - but in my experience nothing wipes unless u do! An EUU may do it or an official updaate.zip.
2) icsroot by blackthund3r google it
3) if u install a custom rom you will need to do a full wipe and format via cwm b4 and after flashing this includes Jr internal storage else all sorts of glitches happen.
Your welcome., as I said its been a problem with no real solution, awesome to know it that in the end it finally worked
I'm not sure it is the drivers. I installed Acer USB Driver v1.00.0524 (2011-10-06) from the Acer website. It appears to be the same version installed by AfterOTA. Maybe it's something else in AfterOTA that just gets hung up on a combination of hardware and software that wasn't anticipated? I'm sure gersma couldn't anticipate or check out every combination.
I'll try ICS Root.
Thanks again for all the help.
FCBelser said:
Where can I find timmydeansv4? Google search isn't finding it.
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
i have exactly the same problem, issue is that wen ur in APX mode and win7 has detected ur acer recovery driver and when u start your process of ICS rooting OR apxflashing or bootloading whatever the USB driver disconnects and that's the reason why nothing works and its stuck in partiton format or what ever process your in btwn and when you once again in a hurry power off the device and power u the acer recovery driver, its back there but still its stuck nothing goes on... Also even when acer recovery driver is there and you enter any mode then it says device not connected or found...please help
rondlu said:
i have exactly the same problem, issue is that wen ur in APX mode and win7 has detected ur acer recovery driver and when u start your process of ICS rooting OR apxflashing or bootloading whatever the USB driver disconnects and that's the reason why nothing works and its stuck in partiton format or what ever process your in btwn and when you once again in a hurry power off the device and power u the acer recovery driver, its back there but still its stuck nothing goes on... Also even when acer recovery driver is there and you enter any mode then it says device not connected or found...please help
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If the usb connection is disconnecting here's a few things you can check.
Both sets of drivers are installed. The Acer ones and the android ones.
Try a different usb cable.
Win 64 bit has issues try xp, ,vista or win 7 machine.
If still no joy try civs manual flash or Ubuntu.
Sounds like a driver issue so check those first.
Dibb
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Thanks so much for the reply the drive i have is Acer USB boot recovery drive and before that Picasso was visible .. there is just one driver how can i get two drives here? i have read many forum and the links they gaved is Just one two drivers, one was Picasso and the other was simple that i mentioned at first but the Device Manager just shows one (Acer USB boot recovery drive)
Three cables are changed but all it happens that it stuck at partition fomating or flashing recovery
Also like to mention that i Used AFTEROTA which shows the status under
Driver - OK - driver installed
USB - ERROR connect usb cable and enable usb debugging
(how can usb debugging be enabled when tablet is totally dead)
In the cpuid guide in my sig there's a download for adb/fast boot drivers. You must have these installed.
Was yr tab running ok before all this?
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Sorry but i m new to this android and this forum ,i have followed ur link and im confused that which version (honeycomb or ICs was my tab) yes everything was working fine and suddenly the OS and apps started to held and behave abnormal so then i had to turn it off and after that all this happened
I have followed ur link and this is what i see
DRIVERS
Acer Support for Acer APX/Fastboot/Recovery Drivers
Android SDK for the adb/USB drivers - You can d/l a mini zip containing just the adb and fastboot drivers attached to this post "adb_fast.zip"
i went to ace support and download the honeycomb first version but the adb_fast.zip doesn't have any driver its a program... Kindly suggest where is the other driver
Sir Kindly reply i am waiting for your suggestion.:crying: