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Battery Life is absolutely horrible

Ive been using an iphone 5 and Optimus G Pro for the past 8 months waiting for the new androids to come out this fall and I am quite disappointed. I have the ATT version, i have wifi, gps, bluetooth all off, never had to do that on the iphone. I close out all the apps and clear the ram, and I went through 30% overnight while I was sleeping. My Optimus G Pro was far better on battery and that seems kinda backwards?
Is there like a break in period or something, what is the deal here

rodimus_prime said:
Ive been using an iphone 5 and Optimus G Pro for the past 8 months waiting for the new androids to come out this fall and I am quite disappointed. I have the ATT version, i have wifi, gps, bluetooth all off, never had to do that on the iphone. I close out all the apps and clear the ram, and I went through 30% overnight while I was sleeping. My Optimus G Pro was far better on battery and that seems kinda backwards?
Is there like a break in period or something, what is the deal here
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You have a wakelock my friend, use an app like better battery stats or gsam battery monitor, wakelock detector etc.
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I have 3 hrs screen on time and barely went through 30%
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so how do i fix this wakelock thing

rodimus_prime said:
so how do i fix this wakelock thing
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You have to figure out what application is causing the "wake lock"
What a wake lock is; Its something running in the background that is not letting the phone "sleep" or otherwise go idle. Meaning your phone is running full speed ahead while you are sleeping.
It could be all sorts of things causing a wake-lock. I had one guy on my ROM have a wakelock because his internet connection was so poor the phone just kept searching and he was draining about what you are draining everynight.
Another thing I would look at are your location settings, not just GPS. The new Google settings Icon has a bunch of crap that it syncs and tracks you via all sorts of stuff. Go in there and make sure nothing is turned on you dont need...
And lastly, like the other guy said, check for a battery stat app. They can show you what app is not sleeping or why your phone is not sleeping like it should.

Facebook is a notorious offender. With refresh off I would get over 140 wakelocks in a 7 hour period.
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truckroot said:
Facebook is a notorious offender. With refresh off I would get over 140 wakelocks in a 7 hour period.
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I was experiencing terrible battery as well. I disabled the haptic feedback with the keyboard and also google now. My battery life seems to be pretty well now. Also disabled leaving wifi on while sleep and off charger.

bova80 said:
I was experiencing terrible battery as well. I disabled the haptic feedback with the keyboard and also google now. My battery life seems to be pretty well now. Also disabled leaving wifi on while sleep and off charger.
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Was your haptic feedback really strong on the keyboard?
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heffzilla said:
Was your haptic feedback really strong on the keyboard?
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yeah, I could turn it down for for other things, but couldn't figure out how to turn it down for the keyboard.

Same here
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The battery is awesome on mine, way better than the S4 and Note 2. I'm at 100% still and it's been off the charger for 2.5 hours, where my S4 is at 91%.

geoff5093 said:
The battery is awesome on mine, way better than the S4 and Note 2. I'm at 100% still and it's been off the charger for 2.5 hours, where my S4 is at 91%.
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mine is way better now, after being off the charger for 3 hours I'm at 94% where as yesterday I was probably at like 70% at this point.

Don't forget most android handsets need a 72 hour battery calibration window before you will see a more even battery level. After 72 hours your phone should have a good batch of data to help gauge its power levels.

Battery is fantastic on this phone. Coming from an X and Note 2.

I'm still on my 2nd full charge but notice once the phone huta around 60% the percentage drop starts to slow down, I figure this is just calibration getting dialed in and so far I'm very happy with battery life.

fd toggle
Hi there, I am not sure if this is the reason but I used to have Fast dormancy toggle apk on my old lgog to prevent the phone from complete discharge even though I was not actively using the devicd. I installed the fd toggle here,too and I can honestly say that if I am charged 100 % at about midnight, I have the same 100 at about 6:30 when I get up. Of course, no data,no sync,no wifi and no active use of any kind during that time. I do not know if the app is the key but the result is pretty impressive. I have the korean version F320K.

I was using the Snapdragon Battery app on my DNA. Never sure if it did anything. Is it worth using on the G2 as well? Love the phone! Less gimmicky than the S4 and more interesting than the Maxx.

scrosler said:
You have to figure out what application is causing the "wake lock"
What a wake lock is; Its something running in the background that is not letting the phone "sleep" or otherwise go idle. Meaning your phone is running full speed ahead while you are sleeping.
It could be all sorts of things causing a wake-lock. I had one guy on my ROM have a wakelock because his internet connection was so poor the phone just kept searching and he was draining about what you are draining everynight.
Another thing I would look at are your location settings, not just GPS. The new Google settings Icon has a bunch of crap that it syncs and tracks you via all sorts of stuff. Go in there and make sure nothing is turned on you dont need...
And lastly, like the other guy said, check for a battery stat app. They can show you what app is not sleeping or why your phone is not sleeping like it should.
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Scross tell me you got a G2 lol
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This is dumb. My G2 was at 100% battery for 3 hours! You either have a lemon or your cell reception is poor where you are. The battery life is not horrible.

Yeah, I'm with the rest. I'm coming from a MAXX HD (insane battery) and the battery optimization on the G2 is far superior (albeit smaller battery).

Bought the phone over 24 hours ago and I am still on the charge from the box. Its running great for me with LTE on.

Battery Life Since 4.4.2

I only had mine a week or so before the upgrade, but I would say it's definitely taken a hit. Now, screen is not always the biggest power consumer like it used to be. Android OS and Android System are taking a much bigger portion of the power than they used to. I always reboot the phone if something other than screen is monopolizing the battery.
Also, I heard there's a Qualcomm-specific bug related to powering the cameras, and that it's been a particular issue with the latest Skype builds.
I worry that they'll fix these issues quickly in the Android project but it'll take months for me to see the fix from Verizon, by which point my battery will have been subjected a lot of unnecessary heat and wear.

Tonnes of android os talk in this thread. Or try Googling it.
Basically, the more services you have on and apps syncing, the higher it gets. For experimentation .....disable sync, location, Google now and Amy other service you can find, and usually android os goes way down. Decide what's important to you and enable things again....but do like one change a day. And when your android os skyrockets again....you'll know the last thing you enabled is the main culprit.
Anyway.....a pile of battery tips in here, and android os talk. Take some time and read through some. Maybe start at last page and go back as far as you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
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Yes that battery life thread is very good. No change noticed here after the upgrade from 4.4
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Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?

cpurick said:
Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
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Trust me, you can fix it now....if you try. Just gotta troubleshoot.
Many have no such bugs....or they've disabled whatever has wrecked their battery.
Just gotta put in some time and your issues can be fixed.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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I seem to be one of the few that's matching my Moto x's battery life on my N5.
Not sure why some have such bad battery life on either phone sometimes, I can only assume its app related and very hard to pin down.
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I have noticed no appreciable change in battery life on any of the builds that the phone has had since I got it in December. Some days it is excellent, the next day, the wind blows the other direction (literally and figuratively) and the battery life is terrible with no change in usage or where my phone spends most of its time.

I had the Android OS bug after the OTA. I reflashed the stock firmware in fastboot and now it's gone back down to a more manageable level.
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I actually had slightly better battery life on my Nexus5. I still haven't passed 7+ hours screen time on the MotoX. I did it multiple times with the Nexus5. Although I think the Nexus5 has some tech to save battery while reading or screen is still. It still wasn't enough to make me choose it over the awesomeness that is the MotoX. Although I do miss that raw power every so often.
I too have had the random drain issue. It's definitely app related and since I reset and have stopped installing outdated apps I've been fine.
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You know, I thought it was just me, but the battery life definitely why down after 4.4.2! Yes they added a couple of features, but not that many for the drop in battery life experienced
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My battery life is better on 4.4.2
The issues are with apps that have not been updated since kit kat. I've since removed such apps and have been enjoying much better battery life.
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Installed ds battery saver. And let discharge overnight. Gsam reported a 2%/hr discharge. I had some apps not be shutoff
Install a xposed module appopsx or find a app on the play store if you don't have xposed. 4.4.2 requires root.
It's the built in permissions management. You can disable location for what app for example. It shows you what app is using that permission and how long ago it used it.
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I unlocked and finally upgraded to 4.4.2 on Tuesday the 18th. I had a four day weekend and was on my phone A LOT (because I wasn't at work), so I wouldn't consider it normal usage to compare with. I'm waiting patiently for my averages to level off now that I'm back at work and on normal patterns again.
Before I wiped I took a screenshot of my averages according to GSAM, and it was showing 15h7m (7h42m active) average battery life, with 5h3m (7h12m max) screen on time.
I am currently a little below that, 12h20m (7h33m active) average battery life, with 5h28m (5h17m max) SoT. I was on my phone basically all day Friday-Sunday and had it on and off the charger. I haven't really had a full cycle of waking up, using the phone all day, and going to bed yet.
The apps I am running now are almost all identical. I actually removed 2-3 of them after finding that Gravity Box could emulate the features of standalone apps that I was using.
I am not using Greenify (I didn't see any substantial gain from it), but I do have the Snapdragon Battery Guru.
Overall, I don't think it's worse.

This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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SymbioticGenius said:
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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Some have got down to 0.5 per hour drain on standby, but I never could. Our x is about 1 also. Its strange, cause its set up about the same as my n5 and it can get to 0.4 usually, not in airplane mode either.
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The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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That's part of it I'm sure. Maybe the radio? Who knows what else. LOL
Still.....better battery at the end of the day than my n5....with my usage.
An extremely light user may get more mileage with lower standby for sure, but doesn't really affect my wife. She charges over night regardless.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it

hlaraujo said:
I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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Now we just need to test it througout the day with touchless control and active notifications off

S5 Worst battery ever

Got this phone about 10 days ago and my battery is terrible since day 1, someone suggested to root my phone and get the BBS app and dump a file i did that and installed a system tuner to disable google CHECKIN OR GCM and unchecked them. apps i got installed to help with battery battery doctor, wakelock detector, os monitor, system tuner, gsam battery, betterbatterystats.
Apps i disabled are:
Ant radio service
Ant+ plugins
App zone
Blurbcheckout
chaton
chrome
flipboard
google play book, games, movies, music, newstand , google search, google+ , hangouts
hp print service plugin
my magazine
s health , svoice , samsung account , samsung apps , samsung galaxy apps widget, samsung push service, smart remote , Top Hd Games
got a plain black wallpaper, even after all this i cant get more than 2h30m screentime and everyone is getting 5h+ do i have a defective unit? what are my options right now? cause basically i removed everything the phone has lol. i talk to my workplace and they can send the phone for repair but i want to see if someone can help me before i do that. i have to unroot the phone if i have to send it for repair even though my phone is 0x1 on knox cause i was stupid to root with cf-root and didnt check other methods.

After all that you did, then it sounds like a faulty battery or device.
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How's your signal at work? I'm on 3g at half signal maybe? I get about 3:30 and standby. But when I'm at home WIFI only I get about 4-4:30 it all depends too on how bright your screen is.

darkfangex5 said:
How's your signal at work? I'm on 3g at half signal maybe? I get about 3:30 and standby. But when I'm at home WIFI only I get about 4-4:30 it all depends too on how bright your screen is.
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How do I check if I have a good signal at work? Through an app or through a battery status.
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This system tuner app you used it not any overclocking or something that might drain you battery?
What screen brightness do you use most of the time?
Can you see what use most of your battery? There is charts you can access in settings -> battery
I run with BLAZE kernel and Alliance ROM. (install without any samsung or google bloat if you can)
And I have been using my phone constantly, playing streemed music, installing apps, downloading from internet, browsing internet, having screen active a lot...
And Now I'm at 87% and have been running 1 hour and 38 minutes on battery. (Was at about 100% battery before)
I run +5 screen brightness and don't have any special powersaving features running that limit my experience with the phone.
You could try that kernel and ROM too, I feel they improved my battery time a lot.
I also shut down some samsung and google bloat stuff like air browse, s voice and such crap, saving a little little battery.

Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
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kgyirhj said:
This system tuner app you used it not any overclocking or something that might drain you battery?
What screen brightness do you use most of the time?
Can you see what use most of your battery? There is charts you can access in settings -> battery
I run with BLAZE kernel and Alliance ROM. (install without any samsung or google bloat if you can)
And I have been using my phone constantly, playing streemed music, installing apps, downloading from internet, browsing internet, having screen active a lot...
And Now I'm at 87% and have been running 1 hour and 38 minutes on battery. (Was at about 100% battery before)
I run +5 screen brightness and don't have any special powersaving features running that limit my experience with the phone.
You could try that kernel and ROM too, I feel they improved my battery time a lot.
I also shut down some samsung and google bloat stuff like air browse, s voice and such crap, saving a little little battery.
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I posted my info with photos ^ thanks
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Hey, here I have everything turned on and I never followed these stupid extreme battery guides and I easily get over 4 hours of screen time and one day away from the charger. I only use auto brightness, Greenify and KT Kernel.
It's a smartphone, if you're supposed to turn all the features off then you should have bought a dumb feature phone.

Looks like ur using max brightness? Nearly 2 hours screen on time for 44% isnt the best but isnt terrible. I get around 5 to 6 hours using low brightness 3g/4g on besides when screen on. Using android tuner and greenify for tuneing. Screen uses a lot of battery to. Im using. Ktoons kernal now with oc and the batterys probably the same to to me. No beter or worse but. Im running higher clock.
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I also use normal power save eith the greyscale option selected and I have the cpu limited disabled.because ktoons app limits it for me.
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sofia-captivate said:
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
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You're set for almost four hours of screen on time there, on what seems to be very poor mobile signal. Doesn't sound that unrealistic to me to be honest.
Poor mobile signal absolutely kills battery life, as your phone spends the entire time searching and trying to get a better signal.

dandroid13 said:
Hey, here I have everything turned on and I never followed these stupid extreme battery guides and I easily get over 4 hours of screen time and one day away from the charger. I only use auto brightness, Greenify and KT Kernel.
It's a smartphone, if you're supposed to turn all the features off then you should have bought a dumb feature phone.
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I think his point is that most people get 5-6 hours screen time with everything on and without following the "stupid extreme battery guides". To be honest it looks like you aren't getting great life either if you are only getting 4 hours. I regularly get 6-7 with everything on and no greenify or kernel tweaks
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sofia-captivate said:
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
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I see a couple of things interesting with your setup, Speaking from personal experience, I too have had battery issues drive me up a wall. I'd get just about a day on a battery when everyone else gets about 3-9 days more. My friend has an s5 all stock and he gets 9 days on a freaking battery. WTF
I rooted my first s5, with ANCH baseband and still couldn't solve all the issues with it. So I sent it back to t-mo and they sent me another one, getting batteries on ebay has also ended up a wash. 2 batteries I've received go down 20% from a full charge in the first hour and shut completely down at 32 percent at least I got a refund on that. (So be careful about ebay batteries, even though they say samsung.
So looking at yours here's what I see, Your system is staying awake, lets look at wake locks. Kik is really tearing up your machines wakelock (900wake locks) as well as the camera CPU time, i'd imagine you were recording a video at some point.
1. Go get greenify and greenify those Kik, Instagram and camera apps if thats usage while the screen is off. (No notifications on those apps, i'm afraid when you do that.)
2. Go get system tuner, make sure your rooted by towelroot (If you so choose to keep from tripping knox) and go into app mgr and find android system and go through activities, receivers and services and make sure everything you see that says IQAgent gets unchecked. This will help you stay out of ServiceIQ's eyes and also help your battery as your entire phone is debugged through those apps. (Help is on the forums somewhere)
3. Turn off google now, hotword detection and location history or you'll start noticing Google services draining your battery
4. Go get deep sleep battery saver and remove that battery saver, I personally never liked it it only suggests things to do rather than do them for you. At night or whenever you need to save your battery turn on slumber and it will only take like a percent to 5% in the morning
5. You probably have a bad battery, especially if its down to that low. Time to exchange or return
I'm incredibly disappointed, i've had to do all these things to really figure things out, heck i'd be on firefox for about 15 minutes and go down 18% (Happened this morning)
Android really has some issues with kitkat, and even though we try and fix these problems with modifications there comes a point where one just gives up and tries to deal with it.
I don't understand why my phone gets 1.2 days and my co-workers Verizon s5 gets 9 days with normal usage. Everyone seems to have crazy all over the scale battery life results. Heck, i've reset my phone and flashed so many roms that i'd be safe to say that I have yet to have 10 full discharges in the 4 weeks i've had the phone. At the end of the day though, it's mountains better than my iphone 5 with a lenmar battery case.
Wish I could say the same with stability, I'd be on my bike and switch tracks (or try) and stuff just doesn't respond, heck I can't even go with voice activation with wired headphones and that is really a downer for me. I want to be able to hold down the pause and play and get the google now boop boop sound and speak as i'm riding.
I'm tired of this, and google has no answers, the fixes above only seem to add a couple of hours but not the 9 days I was seeing.

Goldie said:
I think his point is that most people get 5-6 hours screen time with everything on and without following the "stupid extreme battery guides". To be honest it looks like you aren't getting great life either if you are only getting 4 hours. I regularly get 6-7 with everything on and no greenify or kernel tweaks
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So? What do you do to have that many hours? Which rom? How often do you recharge? Which apps do you use? That's the point. I never freeze/uninstall anything...

dandroid13 said:
So? What do you do to have that many hours? Which rom? How often do you recharge? Which apps do you use? That's the point. I never freeze/uninstall anything...
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My rom. With nothing removed or frozen as I have to keep all bloat due to development to check everything. I recharge every night usually with about 20% left and about 5h30 screen on. Using Tapatalk, music, calls, Internet. The usual stuff.
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I get 6-7 hours normal use with the bloatware I never use frozen. And I mean never use.
Gtalk, whatsapp, line, google drive, dropbox, gmail, Yahoo mail, corporate mail, all running. No greenify. No battery saver.
Now playing games is different thing. 2-3 hours max.

My battery is amazing. I keep the screen brightness lower, keep networks and chips off when not using, i use bootmanager to prevent apps from launching ay boot and only 1 active widget. Good for a day and a half of very fair use !
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It's your probleme. Problably you have some stupid apps I'm your phone that you shouldn't have.
Like you see in my picture. My battery it's just fine and there is 2 stupid apps that eat me my battery without do anything

My battery is great too, maybe problem is some apps

matheus_sc said:
My battery is great too, maybe problem is some apps
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Yup probably, the only flaw with a smartphone is its user

[Q] ANDROID IS JUNK! (Battery "life")

Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)

You're never going to get zero percent battery use, maybe your expectations are out of line?
How much screen on time do you out of a full charge? And what's your %/hour drop when the phone is sitting untouched?
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Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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google doesnt come up with a new way for android to suck more battery , YOU DO , note the keyword is YOU , now figure it out .

I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour

Badgie said:
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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battery life is all dependent on YOUR personal usage, your personal setup, your personal decision to install whatever apps, and very much your phone/data signal. if your data/phone signal is only so so, then youyr battery life will only be so so. if you have things draining your battery besides for your signal and use, its up to you to figure out why. thye battery klife of my nexus 4 and nexus 5, actually, all androids that ive ever owned, has been wonderful. i get the same google apps updates as you, no less. so you have to figure it out.

OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.

Badgie said:
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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jd1639 said:
You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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App updates come along. Play Store is set to give notifications and to auto-update. Some app updates don't give notifications and "Android OS" causes a load of wakelocks until I spot that the update needs doing and do it manually. Same thing happens on my wife's stock Nexus 4. We are both in the Uk on Three network and have good signal.
I have BBS but I need to see what it says when I get this app update problem. I will post my findings when I get the info. If nobody here recognises this problem maybe I need to look at what is similar between our two Nexus 4s. I know we both have WhatsApp and, of course, all the Google apps, both on 4.4.4 but there the similarities end.

Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.

BMXJeff said:
Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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BMXJeff said:
Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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one more thing, you do not need root or to be rooted to run a custom rom or kernel. the only thing that root is need for is to change system files or to run root apps. but yea, you can get great battery life on stock.

I have been getting great battery life from the stock ROM after a few tweaks apart from this problem with updates. I have had a couple of other ROMs on this phone but went back to stock after the last couple of system updates. When I'm not having this particular battery drain then, if I leave the phone alone, I'm getting about 1%/hr battery drain. Also my wife doesn't want her Nexus "messed about with" and it helps if the two are fairly similar. Xposed is the big difference between the two.
The Defy+ is on 2.3 because I only use it when I'm out hiking and it might rain. The Defy is not easy to upgrade and 2.3 was where Android got good, so I'm OK with it, if that's all right with you.

BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.

Badgie said:
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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That's nice
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jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h

Mashed_Potatoes said:
over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.

jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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A stripped down ROM running only the bare minimum can greatly improve battery life! Just have a sift through some custom ROMs and you will find the ones that are tuned to do such a thing.
Also in reply to others here, the advantage of being rooted means you can remove unwanted system apps, underclock etc which if you're concerned about battery life would be quite important I would have thought.
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jd1639 said:
You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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This is what you need to do if you want to persist with the stock ROM. I personally have used betterbatterystats with success. Use this to check wakelocks as these are often the cause of mystery battery drain. There is an old but useful guide to that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi

BMXJeff said:
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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Me too. That was a difficult three years.

simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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Not possible with the 2100mah that n4 has! I have the same set up and I'm getting 3h sot..

simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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i never use data and i average 3,5-4h sot?

Android M Battery Life/ Performance

So I have only had the Android M preview for a day, obviously. While I am coming from cyanogenmod, which admittedly did not get the best battery, the Android M preview is getting AMAZING battery. I'd typically have to charge my phone around 5. Its currently 10 and I'm at 30%. I can tell when Doze kicks on in battery stats, and it makes battery drain nonexistent. Standby time is amazing. The steep drop that occurred recently is due to my mobile hotspot being on, don't mind that. Before I had it on, I was lasting until 6 A.M, according to stats. SOT is currently 3 hours, which is usually lower than what I do per day, but I usually charge around 2-3 for a quick top up.
Preformance is very well, while it isn't as good as it was on 5.1.1 (which imo was next to perfect), it is better than it was back in the days of 5.0.2.
I honestly cannot wait until Google Play Services is optimistized even more. That is now my biggest battery drain, since Android System is now completely optimized
Tl;dr, nexus 6 battery life and performance on Android M is amazing

Mine has been horrific, with Google services eating 36% of my battery. I suspect that is a reporting error but it's really too early to tell. We won't really know for a few cycles IMHO.
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Update 6/2 - I have been through numerous flashes to get the phone where I want it with root, etc. and I can say it has settled in nicely. I would say battery is better now than stock loli, but not as good as custom roms. Best loss was 2.7%/hour, worst was 5.6% with similar activity. Doze does make a significant difference with standby time, the battery graph basically goes flat when idle for extended periods. For a first release I am impressed.

For a stock un-rooted kernel, my battery life has been pretty good. Its not a good as hells-kernel or zen kernel, but again, this is stock we're talking about.
With lollipop running hellscore, i would be closer to 2:45-3hours SOT when the battery is at 50%.
How about adding a poll option for "about the same as lollipop", which is what I'm seeing.

dwang said:
For a stock un-rooted kernel, my battery life has been pretty good. Its not a good as hells-kernel or zen kernel, but again, this is stock we're talking about.
With lollipop running hellscore, i would be closer to 2:45-3hours SOT when the battery is at 50%.
How about adding a poll option for "about the same as lollipop", which is what I'm seeing.
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Your N6 sleeps like a baby lol. What did you disable?

jarjar124 said:
Your N6 sleeps like a baby lol. What did you disable?
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Nothing special, this is what I do with all my phones...
* Turned location history to off
* Location Mode: battery saving
* google plus notifications off
* nfc off
* ok google detection off
* all google apps syncing on
* exchange email syncing every hour
* adaptive brightness on, slider at 60%
* tmobile wifi calling on

Mine has been kept awake and I have no idea what's doing it. Under battery, the only thing that shows up is System UI. Nothing else, no apps or anything else shows there.
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jblazea50 said:
Mine has been kept awake and I have no idea what's doing it. Under battery, the only thing that shows up is System UI. Nothing else, no apps or anything else shows there.
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I'm in a somewhat similar situation. Do note I do have bad signal at home lol.

jarjar124 said:
I'm in a somewhat similar situation. Do note I do have bad signal at home lol.
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My signal has been good so not sure what the issue is.

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Mine has been kept awake and I have no idea what's doing it. Under battery, the only thing that shows up is System UI. Nothing else, no apps or anything else shows there.
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I had that until when I first flashed. Reboot corrected it.

Final numbers.
4:41 sot
8:48 battery
Pretty good considering I played 40 minutes of hearthstone

dwang said:
Nothing special, this is what I do with all my phones...
* Turned location history to off
* Location Mode: battery saving
* google plus notifications off
* nfc off
* ok google detection off
* all google apps syncing on
* exchange email syncing every hour
* adaptive brightness on, slider at 60%
* tmobile wifi calling on
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Hold up - is T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling working in the m preview? I've been debating whether or not I should make a nandroid and flashing it. My buddy and I are playing a game of chicken on who flashes first.
That said, is it worth it? Is there enough good stuff working that you'd use it as a daily driver over 5.1.1?
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sage_viper said:
Hold up - is T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling working in the m preview? I've been debating whether or not I should make a nandroid and flashing it. My buddy and I are playing a game of chicken on who flashes first.
That said, is it worth it? Is there enough good stuff working that you'd use it as a daily driver over 5.1.1?
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Stable as a rock with WiFi calling working here.

This is the best preview I've ever flashed, Google really stepped up their game with this one. Android M is like a refined version of lollipop and the battery life is just as good as 5.1.1 ?

No problem with battery life on M. For a preview its damn good.

bill3508 said:
No problem with battery life on M. For a preview its damn good.
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3 hrs SOT with 60% battery is very good...what settings and brightness do u use?
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wazza1991 said:
3 hrs SOT with 60% battery is very good...what settings and brightness do u use?
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Brightness around 30%, manual sync, location off. No servicely or greenify. Google live case wallpaper so NFC on. I am still on the 98r radio as I was hesitant to flash the new one.

Mine has been great as well

I had 4 sot and was at 18% before putting it on the charger. Played with my CoC and did imgur for most of the sot.

Drain...
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Drain...
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The only thing I haven't figured out about M, is how to force close google services, which in your case it would help to reset it.