My partner is looking at getting a new phone, and we are looking around at different models. We want one that we will be able to upgrade and flash custom ROMs on for obvious reasons. For the AT&T model, what's the status of the bootloader? I have read that someone had an unlock method a few months ago, but I've also read that new models have an update that breaks that method. Also I have read that there is a safestrap method to install custom ROMs without having to unlock the bootloader.
Can someone summarize the status of the above for me? We would be buying a new one from AT&T. Would we be able to unlock the bootloader, or use safestrap?
Thanks!
cloakzore said:
My partner is looking at getting a new phone, and we are looking around at different models. We want one that we will be able to upgrade and flash custom ROMs on for obvious reasons. For the AT&T model, what's the status of the bootloader? I have read that someone had an unlock method a few months ago, but I've also read that new models have an update that breaks that method. Also I have read that there is a safestrap method to install custom ROMs without having to unlock the bootloader.
Can someone summarize the status of the above for me? We would be buying a new one from AT&T. Would we be able to unlock the bootloader, or use safestrap?
Thanks!
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The best place to find the information you want is in the threads you said you read. There is nothing else to tell more than what is already in those threads.
scott14719 said:
The best place to find the information you want is in the threads you said you read. There is nothing else to tell more than what is already in those threads.
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Most of them haven't been updated in a month or more, or are dozens of pages deep. If you aren't going to be helpful then just don't comment. I frequent boards for other phones and try to help people with questions instead of condescendingly telling them to go trek through the labyrinth that is the world of Android development.
cloakzore said:
Most of them haven't been updated in a month or more, or are dozens of pages deep. If you aren't going to be helpful then just don't comment. I frequent boards for other phones and try to help people with questions instead of condescendingly telling them to go trek through the labyrinth that is the world of Android development.
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OK, continue being rude and lazy. I'll leave you to it.
Here's some help, your partner is probably going to get mk2 firmware. It's bootloader locked and probably always will be. You can use the right version of safe strap and flash a few roms.
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Heya, I'm very new in the vast world of Android rooting and flashing and I've run into yet another problem trying to flash my N900A Note 3 variant. I finally got it SIM unlocked and rooted and just when I'm getting ready to flash I see something about bootloaders. I don't know how to check to see if it's locked but I'm more than certain it is. So, is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? I see people saying it can't be unlocked yet I see guides for unlocking them so really all I'm looking for is a straight answer.
And if I understand it right, Safestrap isn't something I want to do if it's not the 'real' thing, so if it can't be unlocked then I'll be looking into another phone. If I do, would it be better to get another Note 3 variant or the Sony Xperia z1s?
Thanks in advance.
mr_solo1337 said:
Heya, I'm very new in the vast world of Android rooting and flashing and I've run into yet another problem trying to flash my N900A Note 3 variant. I finally got it SIM unlocked and rooted and just when I'm getting ready to flash I see something about bootloaders. I don't know how to check to see if it's locked but I'm more than certain it is. So, is there anyway to unlock the bootloader? I see people saying it can't be unlocked yet I see guides for unlocking them so really all I'm looking for is a straight answer.
And if I understand it right, Safestrap isn't something I want to do if it's not the 'real' thing, so if it can't be unlocked then I'll be looking into another phone. If I do, would it be better to get another Note 3 variant or the Sony Xperia z1s?
Thanks in advance.
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AT&T models are locked at the bootloader, and there's no way to unlock them.
I have similar question....I have 9005 version and want to put new bootloader.....I put new NF2 modem and now i want to put NF4 bootloader....
Is it enough just to instal it through odin?
(Searched for instructions but couldn't find it.....)
Thanks....
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AT&T models are locked at the bootloader, and there's no way to unlock them.
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Okay, I have a few questions on this subject.
Safestrap is a work-around a locked bootloader right? If I use it to flash a rom would there be that much of a difference?
If using safestrap pretty much the same thing then why do people still prefer to have unlocked bootloader?
Because I see guides to unlocking bootloaders, does this mean that it's just AT&T that won't let us unlock this phone version?
Sorry for the questions, I just want this stuff cleared up.
mr_solo1337 said:
Okay, I have a few questions on this subject.
Safestrap is a work-around a locked bootloader right? If I use it to flash a rom would there be that much of a difference?
If using safestrap pretty much the same thing then why do people still prefer to have unlocked bootloader?
Because I see guides to unlocking bootloaders, does this mean that it's just AT&T that won't let us unlock this phone version?
Sorry for the questions, I just want this stuff cleared up.
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You can't change the kernel if your bootloader is locked, so safestrap only works with TW-based ROMs -- no cyanogenmod our other AOSP variants.
AT&T is one of the carriers that forces the OEMs to lock the bootloader. I believe Verizon is another one. No other carrier seems to care, or have enough power over the OEMs to force this.
I have been using the Razr now for almost 3 years. Time to move on!
I just wanted to get confirmation that the Sprint version of the phone was totally rootable?
Also:
1) Is there active tethering possible with this phone through a Custom Rom? What speeds does it get?
2) Do we have safe FXZ type options to return to stock?
Sorry for the questions that to most here are old news....I am just new
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I just wanted to get confirmation that the Sprint version of the phone was totally rootable?
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Root Sprint S5....Step-by-Step
I'm sure that you will love the S5. You should get in the habit of doing a forum search before posting though. You've been a member here for 4 years? A seaech enables you ro narrow down and ask better questions among other things. You would have found that the recent towel root will root pretty much any Android phone. At least until vendors roll out updated firmware that blocks the exploit.
You would also have found that there is a Sprint S5 subforum. You should be able to find threads about tethering there.
Most people will have no idea what FXZ is as you didn't spell it out. That's rather Moto-centric. You can use the Odin program to return to stock.
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fffft said:
Root Sprint S5....Step-by-Step
I'm sure that you will love the S5. You should get in the habit of doing a forum search before posting though. You've been a member here for 4 years? A seaech enables you ro narrow down and ask better questions among other things. You would have found that the recent towel root will root pretty much any Android phone. At least until vendors roll out updated firmware that blocks the exploit.
You would also have found that there is a Sprint S5 subforum. You should be able to find threads about tethering there.
Most people will have no idea what FXZ is as you didn't spell it out. That's rather Moto-centric. You can use the Odin program to return to stock.
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Thanx....been a member for 4 yrs, yes.....just not used it much. I should have read more before posting....was just eager to trigger on s5!
Hey,
I have two questions about the Axon7 and rooting in general.
First is, if there is a possibility to root the Axon7 without an unlocked bootloader. Just need the root for some Apps (e.g. adaway).
The second is: if there is a possibility to root the Axon, will OTA Updates work or how do I get updates?
Thanks for your help.
Gebo
Nobody Knows and Nobody Knows, in that order. Really, there's a gazillion threads about this already.
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
GeboGER said:
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
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isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
pwnerman said:
isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
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Well, you were able root without unlocked bootloader if there's a software exploit back in the day but those are very rare these day.
Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
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Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
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Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
I know that for the zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) there was untethered twrp, this was then used to flash SuperSU to the device granting root access BUT that was when it was released with Android 5.0 Lollipop...
Hopefully this can carried over to Marshmallow for the Zenfone 3, it might give us some hope too...
Depends how many Devs actually get this device....
xtermmin said:
Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
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Darn companies not wanting us to screw around with our devices! Lol I can see why they don't want us to in a way. I just want more customized options.
I see a lot of roms and root threads in the general galaxy s7e discussion forums but i see only 1 rom listed under the t-mobile variant. Are the other roms not going to work on G935t? or will they work but theres no point having multiple threads?
im coming from almost entirely nexus stuff before so this phone is still rather new to me with how locked down it is.
shrimants said:
I see a lot of roms and root threads in the general galaxy s7e discussion forums but i see only 1 rom listed under the t-mobile variant. Are the other roms not going to work on G935t? or will they work but theres no point having multiple threads?
im coming from almost entirely nexus stuff before so this phone is still rather new to me with how locked down it is.
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Tekv2 and Echoe are the only ones.
Personally and suggestion, i'll head up for TEKV2
This phone is locked down like Fort Knox. The locked bootloader was a big disappointment for ROM and root lovers, especially for early adopters like me.
Dr. Fed said:
This phone is locked down like Fort Knox. The locked bootloader was a big disappointment for ROM and root lovers, especially for early adopters like me.
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I thought we had gotten past that? Or is it just that we have root but the bootloader itself is still locked?
shrimants said:
I thought we had gotten past that? Or is it just that we have root but the bootloader itself is still locked?
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Nothing has changed. We have root because of an engineering kernel that allows root commands. But bootloader will not allow us to flash anything that isn't developed or approved by Samsung.
i just want to learn if i use G6-H870 international rooting app for my H870ds, is it support only one sim card or it will be bricked???
thanks
gilkerh said:
i just want to learn if i use G6-H870 international rooting app for my H870ds, is it support only one sim card or it will be bricked???
thanks
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Dude, if you can't do a little research, then i strongly suggest you avoid attempting to modify your phone. Sorry to sound rude, im having a bit of a face palm moment from your question.
You're not sounding rude. A lot of people on this forum wants to be spoon-fed, and that's not going to help them in the long run. They need a smack on the head and get taught how to search.
If you can find a way of unlocking the bootloader you could give it a try. Probably brick you phone yes.
gilkerh said:
i just want to learn if i use G6-H870 international rooting app for my H870ds, is it support only one sim card or it will be bricked???
thanks
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You will brick your phone. Don't do it.
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Just do it and let us know what you think about you new paperweight
What do you mean "just do it"?
How would you do that when the bootloader is locked?
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What do you mean "just do it"?
How would you do that when the bootloader is locked?
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I think he was trying to point out that it should go without saying that you shouldn't even think about flashing other firmware than the one designed for your actual model. It never ends well.
I think he just wants to root his phone, and thinks that somehow this process involves getting the single sim firmware.
To be able to root you first need to unlock the bootloader. Currently only allowed by LG on the unbranded US and EU versions. NOT possible on any other version, unless someone finds an unofficial way around it in the future.
I haven't tried it, but I doubt you will brick it, most likely it will just reject it, but I agree it's not a good idea to try it without knowing.
All those guys talking about spoon feeding people... if you know the answer to the question just answer it, if you don't know the answer shut up.
I reached this thread doing research and rather than finding information I find your rant.