Hello everyone,
I put my questions in bold so they're easier to find and address, I'm not trying to shout.
So, I'm getting ready to create a rom slot using Safestrap but when trying to free up memory for a new slot, I'm having trouble understanding where some of my memory went.
I opened up the application manager to view the usage and it shows I have 5.42 GB of space available (see Phone Memory attachment).
This seems to be consistent as when viewing the available memory in windows, it shows I have 5.41 GB of 9.61 GB free (see PC Memory Analysis attachment).
So the first question is where did 6.39 GB of my 16 GB device go to get down to only 9.61 GB left (I can only assume Android's OS)?
I went into explorer to find out what's taking up all the space and what I can remove but when I set my computer to read all hidden files, selected all the folders and then click properties, it can only seem to find 1.5GB of data on there rather than the 4.2 GB (9.61GB total - 5.41GB left over - 1.5 GB found on the folder) it says I'm using (see Explorer Analysis).
Any idea what happened to this 2.7 GB or so of data?
Also, does anyone know the minimum space I should reserve on the internal memory for the phone to operate or is that already considered in the 7 GB or so of Android data? I know when you run out of disk space on the OS partition of a hard drive, you see a significant speed decrease and I want to make sure I don't do the same on my phone. If I can fully fill up the disk space without any performance decrease, that works too.
Thanks, everyone!
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I have searched around but can't seem to find the exact answer to this question. I apologize if it has been covered and I missed it.
When I use a ROMKitchen, yours or Yorch's, there are optional software I can choose to add. When I do so it gives me a memory usage indicator. For example, with the 4_00_05 I currently have, Yorch asys I have 3.9 megs of space to put software in. I understand that there is 15 for Rom and 15 for RAM, RAM being what I get to use as a user.
I install almost every software program onto a storage card. The only device memory I use is the stuff various software put onto the device by default.
My question is, If I don't put any extra software, will I gain any extra space on the device? either for running program space or anything else?
Or am I just wasting the 3.9 megs I'm alotted.
Thanks,
Matt
Hi ...
There is difference between the flash ROM and RAM.
The flash ROM is usually of a fixed size of 32 MB (for XDA I at least), it's used to store the system and any ROM application code like those you select to add while cooking the ROM.
When the system starts, CE will use part of the RAM to run in addition to any other application you will run by your self. Hence, the RAM is managed by CE to be allocated for either "running" CE and applications, and the rest is for storing the DATA like e-mails, cashe files, contacts, ...etc. The RAM size can vary from 32 MB up to 128 MB
When you install non-ROM application, if you decide to install it to the device memory it will be installed to the RAM in the programs portion which will decrease the available amount of memory for either "running" applications or stored data. If it's installed on SD card, it will save the space of the code but will still run in the RAM.
So, the answer to your question is YES, you should make the max use of the available space in ROM.
Load up as many progs as possible into the rom, it saves your program/storage ram and the programs in rom cannot be lost by hard reset, if you dont use the available space in rom then it is a waste of space.
Was just wondering, but does the 'permanent save' feature require me leave some space for it on the ROM? or is that saved yet somewhere else?
Man! This is GREAT!
I hope I am not mistaken, but, if I COOK a ROM with ALL my favorite programs, I save on space (than when I install it separately), since extra space on ROM is wasted anyways?
I didnt know that!
drean said:
Was just wondering, but does the 'permanent save' feature require me leave some space for it on the ROM? or is that saved yet somewhere else?
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This uses a seperate area of flash storage as far as I know.
still no easy way to build our rom without unix & a lot of retuals needed to create it! right? i understand there is a tool for XDA2 but not XDA1 which could be great
hI,
IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO MOVE MBs FROM PROGRAMS TO STORAGE?
what do u mean? do you want to move your installed applications in the phone to memory card? nope! it will corrupt i think, you have to uninstall it then re install it. however, some programs which are related to the system (like helmi dialer) will be automatically installed to phone memory....
and if you mean mem as the old 2003 slider for deviding mem between app and storage then no
that vent away when ms made wm5
maybe progs like DOC or flashdisk can merge extended rom with storage if you need more storage
I mean the possibility, having 60 mb for programs and only 3 mb ffor storage, to move for example 10 mb from the first too the last: the situation will become: programs 50mb storage 13 mb.
from where you get 3 mb of storage and aditional 60 mb for programs, in blueangel we have 60 mb storage and 128 mb ram (so called program memory), or maybe you do not have Blueangel device
Please tell us your device and rom version, and you will get advice
anyway storage is flash and as such have a limited nr of write it can take before it dies
if it was used as application ram it would die very! fast
also why is it ppl want so much application ram?
programs take as much ram as they require the fact that there is plenty left dont make them faster at all
free app ram is just empty doing nothing
also BA has 128 MB ram more than most pocketpc's on the market why you need more ?
the problems is i have installed some applications that must be installed on the device; after these operations i stay with the following indications:
storage 3.68 mb (remaining);
programs 60 mb (remaining).
I'll ry 2 applications i found that could zip and unzip automatically all the files (and applications) resident on the device.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I SOLVED THE PROBLEM
success!!!!
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
Swelldisk isn't the best option AFAIK. Try to find in the forum, that was discussed, and few people lost their data from the SD.
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SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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Sounds interesting. Can you explain how you did it.
THEY HAVE MANY TOOLS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS IN POCKET MECHANICH AND IS CALLED "STORAGE"; IN FEW WORDS YOU CAN CHOOSE A FOLDER/APPLICATION ON THE MAIN STORAGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE TO A SD CARD.
any reference to this original forlder (also registry keys) change their behaviour/pointing action to the new "location"
laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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hello
I have the same prob
I have downloaded the progs you used
I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...
Please could you tell me the procedures you followed to do that ?
Cheers
"I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...", you can't. You can only reduce usage by careful planning...Install programs to storage card, configure IE cache and temp files to storage card..... Swelldisk only work on external storage.
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
I found a safe way to achieve the above:
1. Create a folder Sotage Card\ Windows
2. Include this folder name in "path"
3. Freely move any DLLs into this folder from \Windows to Storage Card\Windows
I used SKTools for achieving this. I am not sure which DLLs may be required in original \Windows folder during reflashing ROM, though I had absolutely no problem in reflashing with all DLLs moved, but better to move back system related DLLs back to original path before reflashing.
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move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
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Cache will be recreated if you move the contents to another location, so you dont achieve any thing, rather waste space on storage card. If you really want to do this, change the registry settings too.
Moving DLLs to another location without declaring location name in "path" is incorrect way.
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
Nishann said:
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
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Use SKTools free demo version
Hello,
I've done a big search to solve this issue, but none that helped. I just bought a Note 3 32GB version Verizon, and I rooted it immediately and added Jelly Beans Build 4. I've barely put anything into internal memory. I look at the Storage and it says I have 29GB used up as Miscellaneous Files. (To which I clicked on and it at most lists 50mb of miscellaneous files) I then used DiskUsage and scanned and saw that my internal SD card only has 2493 MB of storage total. There's some type of issue with it that doesn't allow me to use up all of my 32 GB of internal memory. Could it be the root or rom preventing it?
How do I fix this?
Now that I think about it deeper. I did use Safestrap to root it and I had to create my own partition. Could it be the fact that I just created the partition with the default settings (as in the amount of memory used)? Should I have raised this to 32gb? I think Default was 2.5GB.
To further try to solve this issue, is there a way to increase the amount of data allocated to this partition? Or is there a way to copy everything in this partition to a new one that I would create at 32GB? I would rather not have to restart and redownload everything again, etc.
ahchah08 said:
Now that I think about it deeper...
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Your problem seems to be that you need to read a little more - you are not in the correct forum, this is NOT the Verizon Note 3 forum!
Oh I'm sorry, I Thought this was a general Note 3 forum. And I thought this would be a general Note 3 issue, but I guess it seems to be a rooted and ROM issue.
Your search failed you. Put the rom in the stock slot and your memory readings will be correct. Otherwise, ignore them.
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Hello,
I've done a big search to solve this issue, but none that helped. I just bought a Note 3 32GB version Verizon, and I rooted it immediately and added Jelly Beans Build 4. I've barely put anything into internal memory. I look at the Storage and it says I have 29GB used up as Miscellaneous Files. (To which I clicked on and it at most lists 50mb of miscellaneous files) I then used DiskUsage and scanned and saw that my internal SD card only has 2493 MB of storage total. There's some type of issue with it that doesn't allow me to use up all of my 32 GB of internal memory. Could it be the root or rom preventing it?
How do I fix this?
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Safestrap does not show your free space correctly, it has to do with the way Safestrap creates its partitions. If you use a file browser or switch to your stock ROM you will be able to see the correct amount of space. If you want to maximize your free space and if you want everything to show correctly the only way to do it is to flash the ROM to your STOCK slot. There have been numerous posts about this and I advise you search a little more. Anyways, it isn't anything abnormal and it's perfectly fine. Not something to worry about.
hay people,
so, today my friend gaved me his phone and asked me to install him facebook application on the phone, because he faild to install it.
so, i thought what an easy task, but it turns out i can not make it work at all.
so, he has samsung galaxy s4 (model: GT-I9500).
he has sd card which is 16 gb large, and his phone has 16 gb of installed storage. (at least phone specifications say so).
i tried to install facebook but i got the error.
the problem is that it says that there is no enouff storage available, and google play fails to download application.
so i went to the settings and some wery odd numbers i found.
so, it turns out that storage section of settings shows that there are three different storages.
first one is sd card.
for sd card it shows that it has 16.53 gb capacity, and that 13.97 gb is free.
second one is internal storage:
it shows that internal storage has 16gb capacity, from whitch (believe it or not) 15.91 gb is free.
furtermore, what is also strange is that it shows that there is third storage called "phone storage", and it shows that this storage has capacity of only 17.84 mb, and that 17.75 mb is free. but mb not gb.
what is even stranger, if i go to applications section of settings to see installed apps it shows that available space for apps is 170 mb from witch about 40mb is free.
i mean wtf, how is that possible?
phone has 16 gb of internal storage, and almost all is empty, there are no installed applications except for built in ones, and still it looks like it lacks free space.
it almost looks like it looks at this "phone storage" for available space to install.
what is that "phone storage" at all?
why is only 17mb large?
and how to make android detect that there is 15.93 gb of internal storage available?
instead android shows that low space icon in status bar and every 5 minuts displays popup saying "internal storage is full".
please help to solve this.
why those 15.93 gb are not available for applications?
also, phone has an option to choose where to install applications.
and no matter what i choose (sd card or internal storage) it says there is no enough storage available.
please help.
i really want to fix his phone, because if i do not, you know, he would think that i do not know how to install facebook app.
any help?
how to solve this?
is this normal?
is there any system reserved memory or something?
if this is normal, than can someone explain why, what is all that free memory used for?
for far as i concern, i am down with ideas only to reset phone. but, i am hoping there is some better solutions.
for anyone who reply, thanx!
He has a significant issue with storage. The internal storage should have about 6GB used by the system with about 9GB free. There should not be a "phone storage" drive. The device may need to be repartitioned to correct this, using a PIT file, the correct firmware for your device, and Odin.
I have an old AC8277 Head Unit I got from Panlelo with 1 GB of Ram and 16 GB of storage. It is running Android 5.1. It will periodically tell me I am running out of storage space, even though the storage stats show several GB free. I used the Disk Usage app and it seems to show 2 partitions from there:
Storage Card
/vendor
As soon as my "Storage Card" partition goes above 1 GB, it seems to throw the Storage Space Running Out error.
There was a 3rd party Navigation app on the device I wasn't using and tried deleting that 4 GB folder to see if that would help, but the error remained. Only after I uninstalled a few applications that were in the "Storage Card" did the error go away and the used storage there was less than 1 GB.
I previously tried a factory reset per the vendors advice but the problem came back after some time.
What would be the easiest way to fix this issue outside of deleting apps? Ideally I'd like to be able to keep over 1 GB of apps on this device and I can't understand why this limit is in place.