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Going to be asked sooner or later so why not?
16GB. Although this whole $50 for 8GB and $100 for 16GB upgrade in the smartphone world really bothers me. It's just expensive.
I will probably go with 8. I always go with the cheapest version of any phone I get in order to upgrade to something down the line that much easier without losing too much, if any.
Plus I keep my phones VERY clean so I don't have a bunch of clutter with music, movies, and games. I probably have around 200 songs, 1 movie, and emulators for gaming so I won't come anywhere close to 8gb.
Wait till they discontinue the 8gb version and release the 32gb version. They have done it with the Nexus 7.
I predict 8gb version will only have around 6gb of actual storage space, in order word, it can't store nothing. Even if you don't need more space, buying the 8gb version will lose its value for resale in the future imo, especially if a 32gb version come along.
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I'm weak willed and can't hold out to wait for a possible 32GB version, so I'm going for the 16GB as soon as it's released. 16GB barely cuts it, but if I try hard enough I can fit all my data onto about 13GB. Hopefully the formatted space is at least that much :/
I have 12.27gb available on mine. But I only use about 5gb including 3 ROMs backed up and about a gig worth of mods, and about 150 pics/vids. I don't game much (leave that for tablets) and I stream through Spotify/G Music.
Originally, i thought 8gb wouldnt be enough but it actually would be OK for me.
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Does anyone what the breakdown of 'internal storage' versus 'phone storage' will be?
Internal storage being the space where apps can be installed.
bryan.huang said:
Does anyone what the breakdown of 'internal storage' versus 'phone storage' will be?
Internal storage being the space where apps can be installed.
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This won't be exactly the same but to give some idea...
I have a 16gb 1X and 12.27 available. 2.34 GB internal available and 9.93 gb available on sd
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If I remember correctly from using the Galaxy Nexus, since it doesn't have microSD, the entire space (16gb) will be available for apps installation. Though someone should confirm this.
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You can do what ever you want with all of the remaining space. Apps, storage, whatever.
After having a Nexus7 8gb i won't be making that mistake again any time soon.
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If I remember correctly from using the Galaxy Nexus, since it doesn't have microSD, the entire space (16gb) will be available for apps installation. Though someone should confirm this.
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True this less the space used for system apps. Since ics the storage has been just one big chunk unlike the previous gb and lower where there is a dedicated partition for system apps, usb storage, etc
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I have nexus 7 8gb version and have barely filled it and I use it daily.
I have my iPod for music and stream media within the house from computer or Netflix.
Also taking advantage of Google music's 20,000 cloud storage, think the music matching service is something that is very underated!!
All I will have on phone is a few tidbit games (angry birds etc) and any important photos and stuff.
8gb will be plenty imo.
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I have nexus 7 8gb version and have barely filled it and I use it daily.
I have my iPod for music and stream media within the house from computer or Netflix.
Also taking advantage of Google music's 20,000 cloud storage, think the music matching service is something that is very underated!!
All I will have on phone is a few tidbit games (angry birds etc) and any important photos and stuff.
8gb will be plenty imo.
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different with a phone IMO than a tablet.
I have a 32GB Xoom - I use 16GB if that - a large chunk is on photos/videos (around 6GB)
I have an Evo3D with a 32GB sdcard - I use 20GB of that. Again a large chunk is on photos/videos (around 7GB)
all my music is via Google Music
I worry that 16GB isn't going to be enough.
I wouldn't feel so bad if all the games available stored their save data in /sdcard/... rather than /data/data
Annoyingly it feels like you _have_ to root to get access to transfer or backup saved data.
e.g. angry birds, world of goo, sonic 4 ep 2 (oddly sonic 4 ep 1 saves on sdcard, but ep 2 doesn't)
I wish all developers of games would follow some guidelines on where to store the save files.
I can't decide. I don't use my phone for music or films and my HTC Desire doesn't have anywhere near 8GB being used. That said, for the price and the fact that it doesn't have an SD slot, I'm still tempted by the 16gb
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I can't decide. I don't use my phone for music or films and my HTC Desire doesn't have anywhere near 8GB being used. That said, for the price and the fact that it doesn't have an SD slot, I'm still tempted by the 16gb
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I will hands of buy even 4 GB version but with expandable storage if Google release it
Other wise it is 32 GB when it comes
32gb... or any gb with sd card...google hear us
I'm in for the 16. I keep a very clean phone, too, but I envision situations where I'd fill it up with a video (I've done this with previous phones at family holidays).
Definitely get 16G
on 16G Nexus 7 and GN I constantly run out of space and I am a clean guy - upload and delete all photos, videos, etc and still get Out of Space warning from the system. A few games you may decide to play and boom, each taking 1.5G-2G - your space is gone. I assume next year we will see games taking more and more so we will be hitting the limit with 16G even sooner.
BTW 16G devices show around 12G space total, so 4G must be taken by system apps or for swap space or something similar.
Even if you do not play any games today and use iPod for music - what if you decide to change that tomorrow, or store a few photos/videos. 8G will not last you enough and you will be longing for a new decide quickly, so that $50 savings on extra 8G may come to haunt you.
16GB, though I'd happily pay more for 32 or even 64.
I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
You've talked yourself into it and, going from what you've said, I'd agree with you. I'm gonna get the 16GB version cause I can not because I need to
When 8GB prevents you from doing something you really want to do, that $50 won't be as big a deal then. But seriously, I think that the 16GB model will even have better resell when it comes time to upgrade as most people prefer the larger storage as evidenced by this forum. Everybody's needs and wants are different, but as for me, I'm not even hesistating, it's 16GB for me.
Here is my breakdown:
Sygic GPS - 4.5GB storage space (maps stored locally on the device)
Pictures - around 3GB
Nandroid backups - I have usually 1-2 on my phone which usually means 1-2GB
This usually results in about 3-4GB of storage space to play with for me....
See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
The thing you need to keep in mind is that that 8 or 16GB is your total storage for the device. the 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space with no apps installed (except the system ones that come with it, obviously). And, if I remember correctly, the Galaxy S has 1GB of application storage in addition. With the Nexus 4, every application you install, even if it doesn't have to download additional files to the "sdcard", will be eating into that 5.92GB of storage you have.
^This! Will definitely get 16gb!!
Use the cloud and Google music. If your using Tmo get unlimited data and you will be fine streaming on hspa 42
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I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
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Buy 8 GB version
And I was thinking that if I do not get memory sometimes can get a USB OTG and resolve. Rather than give so much money, better give one dollar for such a cable.
And who knows? Usually use the most how much memory you have. Those who will buy the 16 GB version I bet from her to him and USB OTG.
So there's no point to invest so for 8 GB.
Now Nexus 7 16GB is $ 200 .. perfect for everyone!
If you want more put something nice to sit wi-fi, 3G and 32 GB!
This about the real space available being around 5.7GB bugs me really hard now. Thinking that the amazing new phone I'm gonna get has less space than I'm using at this very moment doesn't sound right. Guess I'll go for the 16GB. Better regret something I did than something I didn't do.
I also think I can manage 8gb (not even coming close to using it up on my current phone, thouh lately I havent been using it that much as a smart phone), but I think I will get the 16gb. One of the main reason why is that I plan on having the phone for a while. I think this is a significant point, since while I'd currently be able to manage with the 6gb (don't count on more than 8) my usage might change (ex. I mihgt have some heavy games installed), and I'd probably want to have at least a gb free (so that'd leave 5 gb) for just in case situations, ex for making a nandroid, or shooting a 30-second-turned-15-minute HD video, or to try out a new very big game, or to download a new distro I want to try out and dd it to a usb (via otg,ofc) using my phone because I'm feeling lazy and dont want to get up and the usb and cable were right next to me (I am joking, but I have done this, though, on a tablet but similar situation).
This brings me to something else that might pop up in the future and that could use up space (though, if it does come, it may be possible to put it onto a usb, or they may immediately ship the software in a dock, psst, don't tell canonical, I want to profit of off this idea ); ubuntu for android (or something similar). Seeing as how canonical ported/is porting (native) ubuntu to the nexus 7 I think there is a chance they might port ubuntu for android to the nexus 4, especially if it sells a lot, which we all know it will. Oh, yeah. Don't mix up Ubuntu on the nexus 7 (if you already heard about it, or google it) with ubuntu for android (the former replaces android, the latter supplements it). While I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, and I probably wouldn't use it that much, the geeky coolness of it would definitely overrule the practical usage of space but thats just me, you might find it useful, or not have it at all.
just buy the 8gb version, that 299 price tag looks damn sexy
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Today I did an excercise with my LG G2x to see if 8Gb will be enough:
Here is my current setup:
1) Internal storage: 1.48GB (788 MB used, it has OS and sys apps)
2) Internal SD card: 5.22GB (4GB used)
3) SDCard: 32GB (12GB used)
The goal of this experiment was to see if I can do without 32GB sd card as I will have about the same storage space as 8gb N4.
1.48 + 5.22 = 6.7Gb
And N4 has 7.45GB (Not 8GB, as 8GB is in decimal system which equates to 7.45GB)
8,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 7.45Gb
Anyways, assuming N4 will be left with 5.92GB after OS and System apps (people from N7 8Gb have this much available).
I deleted all possible crap from the Internal SD card (#2) but the "Android" folder was huge, over a gb. Plus there were tons of other folders created by apps equating to 600 mb.
Mind you I dont have much useful stuff in my 32gb sd card. So I moved my camera pictures and music to Internal SD card and moved backups to 32gb SD card.
So now I could barely fit everything in my Internal SDcard: its 5.11GB full. With no crap: Only has Music, camera taken pics and 700mb of videos and ofcourse "data" from android and app data.
So if I add 788MB from the Internal storage (from #1) which has OS I will be at 5.8 GB
That leaves me with 100 mb in my brand new N4 for taking what 50 pics? Maybe? Or 25 Photosphers?
For those interested: I am running clean lean CM7 with 32 apps, 2 of which are games.
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See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
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Lucky guy to be in an area that lets you use maps over the air. I could not manage on google alone, and use Sygic.
Hello guys.
Is the a difference bettween Nexus 4 with 8 Gb and Nexus 4 With 16Gb?
I want to buy it but I can't aford the 16 Gb.
Thanks in advance.
Only difference is storage.
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Coming from a 16GB Galaxy SIII (which also had a 16GB SD Card in it) I thought there was no way I could buy the 8GB Nexus 4, so I opted for the 16GB.
The 16GB version comes with 12.92GB of available storage due to space taken by the operating system.
Funniest part is, I currently have 11.74GB available.
I could have easily went with the 8GB version. I used to store all my music and photos on my phone, but now that I have integrated into the cloud (Google+ automatically uploads my photos as I take them with my camera and I uploaded every album/song I own to my Google Music account) I find that storing media is completely unnecessary for me.
This may not be a good solution for those who do not have unlimited data or are constantly in areas with no data connection, but for me it's perfect.
just storage size but dont get 8gb if you're going to put ANY music on your phone. 16gb user here and it's still annoying...
Of course it depends on your storage preference. So look at your phone that you have now, what do you keep stored on your phone?
I wasn't sure and bought the 16GB before, but I only use a couple of GB's so most of my storage is empty....
I bought the 16GB nexus thinking there's no way 8 will be enough for me. But i don't think I've ever went over 6GB of storage. I only keep a few songs that I really like (30ish), and 2 or 3 big 3D games. I delete whatever I don't need immediately, like old rom zip, etc.
Guess I'm too organized to take advantage of the extra storage.
I have the 8gb and its plenty if space. So long as u don't save a bunch nandroid backups they take up alOt of space. I use dropbox ALOT now and just store what music I want at any given time on my device. Like maybe 2 GB of music. Also I don't store multiple ROMs no more than 2 at a time anymore. I didn't think I could live with 8gb but I still have almost 2gb left lol.
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Thanks for the answers guys!
i think i go for 8 GB Nexus.
Thanks alot!!
I bought the 16 GB version just to be sure I wouldn't go out of space, but I still have 8,82 GB free without storing any music or movies on the phone, just the photos taken with te camera and lot of apps (about 3 GB due to heavy games).
I think could have bought the 8 GB version, but I'm happy with my decision.
I just read this http://androidandme.com/2013/06/opi...-from-the-best-to-worst-tablet-ive-ever-owned
I was wondering about that as well; aside from continued use, the lags are more evident when it reaches the 9gb mark.
I have a 32 GB ram Nexus 7 and seriously; out of the 32 GB, we actually only have 27.5 GB storage.
I usually need more than 9GB of storage free space so i can have a buttery smooth performance.
Estimate 9+ gb to 10GB which means i have 17GB left to work with.
So far, I only discovered 2 worthwhile apps in battling this Nexus 7 predicament for non root users.
Clean master and Forever Gone.
Clean master is a great app for clearing files and releasing load from the 1 GB Ram.
While forever gone seems to work better than restore factory settimgs., it is somewhat slow and inconvenient.
Anyway, is there any other way to have better performance out of the Nexus 7?
Up to how many GB of free space you leave off before it starts to lag?
There was a discussion about this on AAA last week, but no real conclusions as to what might be causing it. One thing they mentioned was the possibility of the flash based storage "giving out". One guy commented that there are no real garbage collection routines present, so without a lot of free space, storage must be manually erased before being written to, and that can take a lot of time. This is why SSD's have garbage collection or trim routines running at idle to erase unallocated blocks.
It sounds plausible as our tablets are either being used or sleeping, with no real idle time for garbage collection to occur. Of course this is all conjecture at this point. I certainly see more lag in my upcoming 1 year old N7, but nothing like the unresponsiveness originally reported by folks filling up their storage, nor the symptoms described in the article you referenced.
But when mine goes belly up, I plan to move to an iPad. The tablet experience on Android pretty much sucks IMHO, and in the better part of the year in which I have been using it, it hasn't got much better. Of the hundred + apps I have on it, I can count on my fingers how many of them are actually optimized for a tablet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852
How do i liberate that space? i tried wipe everything with twrp and still couldnt liberate space, how can i do it?
devianzel said:
How do i liberate that space? i tried wipe everything with twrp and still couldnt liberate space, how can i do it?
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(To oversimplify it) Of that 8gb, X amount is reserved for the android OS and cache, Y amount is reserved for apps and such with 4.7gb being the usable remainder. There isn't a massive amount you can do to change that really, custom ROMs can free up some but not huge amounts.
On top of that j3 emulates it's internal sd from the leftover space in data. So if your not wiping that you could be missing out
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(To oversimplify it) Of that 8gb, X amount is reserved for the android OS and cache, Y amount is reserved for apps and such with 4.7gb being the usable remainder. There isn't a massive amount you can do to change that really, custom ROMs can free up some but not huge amounts.
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I've found LOS seriously affected space for me
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I've found LOS seriously affected space for me
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Really? Since using my M-SD card as internal I've had zero issues with storage. I have 4/5 space hogging games installed alongside a gig or two of smaller ones, 4/5 GB of music and books and whatever hadn't copied to One Drive lately sat on the phone with a 16gb card and I still don't see any sluggishness yet.
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Really? Since using my M-SD card as internal I've had zero issues with storage. I have 4/5 space hogging games installed alongside a gig or two of smaller ones, 4/5 GB of music and books and whatever hadn't copied to One Drive lately sat on the phone with a 16gb card and I still don't see any sluggishness yet.
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Mine is really slow so I can't use it as internal for now.. but I have 3 huge games on the rom whereas with tw I couldn't put more than 1 big app even Snapchat have me issues. I've found I haven't needed to change it to internal haha
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Mine is really slow so I can't use it as internal for now.. but I have 3 huge games on the rom whereas with tw I couldn't put more than 1 big app even Snapchat have me issues. I've found I haven't needed to change it to internal haha
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If you're UK based go to Wilkos, you can pick up a 16gb class 10 for about £8.
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If you're UK based go to Wilkos, you can pick up a 16gb class 10 for about £8.
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Africa?????