I am still on old bootloader which gives me flexibility to flash most roms including GPE.
I'm wondering, if I upgrade to new bootloader with knox and 4.4.2 kitkat. Will I still be able to flash Google Play Edition roms or any other CM11 or nightlies rom?? Thanks for your reply in advance.
As i understand it, you'll be able to flash these ROMs, but you WILL trip the knox switch, and you will have to use a custom kernel.
omniwolf said:
As i understand it, you'll be able to flash these ROMs, but you WILL trip the knox switch, and you will have to use a custom kernel.
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Really? I don't mind about tripping Knox anymore. As my phone wasn't far from warranty over. Are you sure ?
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I have the 9505
previously i had the stock MH8 with Knox bootloader.
I flashed a non-knox version and it probably did something to the bootloader.
I had problems with the wifi and the sound, until i flashed the pre-rooted MH8 version i found (after many other tries with different ROMS)
of course it flagged the 0x1 in the proccess.
my question is, can I flash a pre-rooted 4.3 ROM?
or is my bootloader already f***ed up?
AND, if i flash a new 4.3 ROM, and the problem returns (wifi/sound), is there any way to solve it?
because as i understand, after flashing a 4.3, there is no downgrade.
thanks!
Flash omega and all your problems will be solved
Sent from Omega pwd GT-I9505/smart phones,dumb people.
kimitza said:
Flash omega and all your problems will be solved
Sent from Omega pwd GT-I9505/smart phones,dumb people.
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i don't like the Omega ROMs...
it would be nice if you can answer my questions though
somebody?
re: flash roms
yonye87 said:
I have the 9505
previously i had the stock MH8 with Knox bootloader.
I flashed a non-knox version and it probably did something to the bootloader.
I had problems with the wifi and the sound, until i flashed the pre-rooted MH8 version i found (after many other tries with different ROMS)
of course it flagged the 0x1 in the proccess.
my question is, can I flash a pre-rooted 4.3 ROM?
or is my bootloader already f***ed up?
AND, if i flash a new 4.3 ROM, and the problem returns (wifi/sound), is there any way to solve it?
because as i understand, after flashing a 4.3, there is no downgrade.
thanks!
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You can flash any stock based or custom roms even if you have KNOX.
KNOX has nothing to do with flashing custom roms in your phone.
Just flash any custom roms which are compatible with your phone
and it will work just fine.
If it doesn't work fine it has nothing to do with KNOX.
All Knox does is basically void the warranty so retailers do
not have to abide by the warranty if the KNOX is present.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
You can flash any stock based or custom roms even if you have KNOX.
KNOX has nothing to do with flashing custom roms in your phone.
Just flash any custom roms which are compatible with your phone
and it will work just fine.
If it doesn't work fine it has nothing to do with KNOX.
All Knox does is basically void the warranty so retailers do
not have to abide by the warranty if the KNOX is present.
Good luck!
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thanks for the answer.
I don't care about the Knox warranty m8
My only question is, if the wifi+sound problem can accure again? or is it safe to upgarde my odex pre-rooted 4.2.2 MH8 to odex 4.3 MK8?
AND if it happens again and i CAN'T downgrade it, how can i solve it?
please? somebody?
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please? somebody?
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I also stuck in your situation,
I'd love an answer if anyone is experiencing the problem.
Hello guys,
I’m aware this has been discussed many times before, but this information is "old" most of the times. My Galaxy S4 (i9505) is now running stock Touchwiz Android 4.3 (i9505XXUEMJ7).
What I want to do is the following: flash my phone to a i9505G, but with some research I've found that that isn't possible. Are there any other ways to get the clean i9505G 4.4.2 ROM without any changes (like root) on my i9505? (I know there are much custom ROM's, but if possible I'd like to keep it "stock".)
Since I'm running 4.3 with Knox I'm a little scared about the Knox 0x1 status, is this already "resolved" or will this still be a problem?
Thanks.
Broodplank's AOSP rom is the way to go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397511
You still need to flash a custom recovery to flash it, though. I recommend CWM. Simply works.
tsphere said:
Broodplank's AOSP rom is the way to go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397511
You still need to flash a custom recovery to flash it, though. I recommend CWM. Simply works.
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Thanks for your reply. Rooting and flashing a custom recovery shouldn't be a problem, however I'm still a little worried about Knox, there simply isn't a way to reset it after it goes to 0x1?
The HTC One can be "changed" into a HTC One Google Edition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
But as far as I can tell this isn't possible for the Galaxy S4?
As far as i seen, once you flash something with odin, your knox flag gets changed. However it's not clear to me whether it changes the warranty actually...
tsphere said:
As far as i seen, once you flash something with odin, your knox flag gets changed. However it's not clear to me whether it changes the warranty actually...
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It's not just the warrenty I'm worried about. If I want to sell the phone later I want it to be fully working, I assume with Knox 0x1 Knox isn't working anymore?
JoeyLe said:
Thanks for your reply. Rooting and flashing a custom recovery shouldn't be a problem, however I'm still a little worried about Knox, there simply isn't a way to reset it after it goes to 0x1?
The HTC One can be "changed" into a HTC One Google Edition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
But as far as I can tell this isn't possible for the Galaxy S4?
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In theory every non G device can be converted into a G device if the hardware model is the same but in practice is not always accomplished 100%. The problem here is Knox, for waht I understand it has 2 layers: The knox bloatware that comes stock on sammys ROM and the off rom portion included in the bootloader. The bootloader is basically what the system loads up first
. so it can't bypassed. So to kkep it simple, if you flash ANYTHING (not sure however if re flashing the stock original ROM activates the flag) on the knox bootloader (AKA: new bootloader) the ''flag'' will change to 0x1, this flag is called eFuse so basically 0x1 means is burned and it can't be changed ANYWAY. If you don't plan to use your phone for work you shouldn't care about the flag.
For more information you can check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
JoeyLe said:
It's not just the warrenty I'm worried about. If I want to sell the phone later I want it to be fully working, I assume with Knox 0x1 Knox isn't working anymore?
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1. It isn't clear if Knox 0x1 voids warranty or not.
2. If you have Knox 0x1 your phone will work fine, but you won't be able to use Knox security enhancements.
3. You can't convert the 9505 to the 9505G, the Google Play edition has different bootloader, modem and pit partition.
Enviado do meu Xposed Galaxy S4 4G LTE
dclarkg said:
In theory every non G device can be converted into a G device if the hardware model is the same but in practice is not always accomplished 100%. The problem here is Knox, for waht I understand it has 2 layers: The knox bloatware that comes stock on sammys ROM and the off rom portion included in the bootloader. The bootloader is basically what the system loads up first
. so it can't bypassed. So to kkep it simple, if you flash ANYTHING (not sure however if re flashing the stock original ROM activates the flag) on the knox bootloader (AKA: new bootloader) the ''flag'' will change to 0x1, this flag is called eFuse so basically 0x1 means is burned and it can't be changed ANYWAY. If you don't plan to use your phone for work you shouldn't care about the flag.
For more information you can check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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Thank you very much! That was very interesting to read. I personally don't care about Knox, all the Samsung bloatware is the main reason I want to have stock Android on my S4.
dandroid13 said:
1. It isn't clear if Knox 0x1 voids warranty or not.
2. If you have Knox 0x1 your phone will work fine, but you won't be able to use Knox security enhancements.
3. You can't convert the 9505 to the 9505G, the Google Play edition has different bootloader, modem and pit partition.
Enviado do meu Xposed Galaxy S4 4G LTE
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Thanks for the information. I see there are many custom roms which are very close to stock Android, that should be fine as well.
JoeyLe said:
Thanks for the information. I see there are many custom roms which are very close to stock Android, that should be fine as well.
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Sure, but the 4.4 roms (Google Play) have one main issue, random reboots.
Hi guys!
I was with old bootloader and always used custom roms without a problem.
(I had the GOLDENEYE XXUGNG2)
I got my S4 on service due to screen replacement (i have returned to stock MGA rom, triangle away, all official etc) and with the screen replacement they also update my phone to stock XXUGNF1. :crying:
So i need a workaround for how root my phone, custom recovery, custom roms without trigger the KNOX flag.
(I have lost many episodes..)
Thanks in advance!
Not possible.. You can root it without tripping though by using towelroot
So, towelroot for root.
(If i want to un-root, i just install a stock rom with ODIN or something else?)
If try for custom recovery or rom, knox will be triggered?
alexisgt said:
So, towelroot for root.
(If i want to un-root, i just install a stock rom with ODIN or something else?)
If try for custom recovery or rom, knox will be triggered?
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Yes, yes, and yes
Thanks my friend!
I need to service my device due to GPS problems.
Warranty would be most probably void if they find any traces of custom ROM installations.
I've install stock original stock ROM using ODIN.
As far as I know No Knox was ever installed on my device.
Would the lab be able to discover any traces of custom ROM installations?
How can I check that?
Thanks!
amir77a said:
I need to service my device due to GPS problems.
Warranty would be most probably void if they find any traces of custom ROM installations.
I've install stock original stock ROM using ODIN.
As far as I know No Knox was ever installed on my device.
Would the lab be able to discover any traces of custom ROM installations?
How can I check that?
Thanks!
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Hi mate,
go to download mode if there is no mention at all of knox , then you are knox free ...your warranty is ok , if there is any mention of knox there check if the knox bit is set to 0x1 if so your warranty bit is set., if not then you are ok
I have always careful to install only Knox free ROMS, so no Knox mention at all.
The stock ROM is Android 4.2.2 prior to Knox.
Will they be able to find somehow any other traces of those ROM's ?
amir77a said:
I have always careful to install only Knox free ROMS, so no Knox mention at all.
The stock ROM is Android 4.2.2 prior to Knox.
Will they be able to find somehow any other traces of those ROM's ?
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hi,
If you flashed rom with Odin , and you kept your bootloader at all times in 4.2.2 and there are no traces at download mode.....they will not find out
I did flashed with Odin, but I don't know if I kept the bootloader in 4.2.2 at all times.
In the past the custom ROM's were 4.4.3, but after the Odin stock ROM flashing, I never installed in ROM/bootloader/root etc. Is that suffice?
amir77a said:
I did flashed with Odin, but I don't know if I kept the bootloader in 4.2.2 at all times.
In the past the custom ROM's were 4.4.3, but after the Odin stock ROM flashing, I never installed in ROM/bootloader/root etc. Is that suffice?
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If you flashed a 4.2.2 stock rom with odin and had no errors at all and settings /about device shows a 4.2.2 rom then you have a 4.2.2 bootloader...there is no way to flash a older bootloader on top of a newer one....
I did flash stock ROM with Odin, and had no errors at all, and the about device shows a 4.2.2, BUT I had several ROMs with 4.4.3, such as Omega, and also Philz touch CWM.
So it seems that I was able to flash older bootloader over newer one. Am I wrong?
Sorry if I'm asking to much questions.. just trying to understand that.
Thanks again!
amir77a said:
I did flash stock ROM with Odin, and had no errors at all, and the about device shows a 4.2.2, BUT I had several ROMs with 4.4.3, such as Omega, and also Philz touch CWM.
So it seems that I was able to flash older bootloader over newer one. Am I wrong?
Sorry if I'm asking to much questions.. just trying to understand that.
Thanks again!
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no problem
Custom roms do not have bootloaders only stock roms , there is no way ( yet) to flash a 4.22 bootloader on top of a 4.3 bootloader...so if you have right now a stock 4.2.2 firmware you never flashed a 4.3 bootloader
Omega never have bootloaders in their rom
OK got it!
I never flash stock 4.3.x ROM, hence bootloader remains 4.2.2.
Thanks so much!
Hi guys!
My dad has been using the above mentioned device for the past 5.5 years. The device is running a stock rooted 4.2.2 MDJ build. His bank is about to stop the support for the 4.2.2 version so we need to update the OS. The minimum required OS is now KitKat but I would like a more moderate ROM. Is it possible to have for e.g. an Oreo based ROM without Knox? In other words, do some ROMs include a Knox bootloader (to enable them to run)?
Thanks for the help!
Only Samsung ROMs would contain Knox.
The apps should be fine with a stock 5.01 ROM if you want to stick with stock.
If you want to run a custom Oreo ROM, I suggest flashing the latest bootloader and modem before installing Oreo.
The sgh-i337m forum is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
audit13 said:
Only Samsung ROMs would contain Knox.
The apps should be fine with a stock 5.01 ROM if you want to stick with stock.
If you want to run a custom Oreo ROM, I suggest flashing the latest bootloader and modem before installing Oreo.
The sgh-i337m forum is here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
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Thanks for the reply!
As I said I would like to evade to flash the Knox bootloader. I know Samsung made it impossible to use their OS without Knox so I'm guessing my only option is to use custom ROMs. Are there any ROMs that still utilise the old bootloader?
You can't flash any bootloader other than stock.
Knox will not interfere with flashing custom ROMs.
Some banking apps will not work with a rooted ROM so you may have to use another app to hide root.
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You can't flash any bootloader other than stock.
Knox will not interfere with flashing custom ROMs.
Some banking apps will not work with a rooted ROM so you may have to use another app to hide root.
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Root is in place just to disable OTA and by the looks of it the banking app doesn't care.
Regarding Knox, I actually think of it as a security downgrade because the NSA played a part in its development and they are known to spy on people. I feel safer when it's not installed LMAO
Is the phone an sgh-i337m or sgh-i337?
The sgh-i337 was made for at&t.
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Is the phone an sgh-i337m or sgh-i337?
The sgh-i337 was made for at&t.
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It's the SGH-I337M. Canadian model. CSC is TLS (Telus)
Okay, just wanted to make sure it wasn't the att model because the 4.3 or newer bootloader is locked on the non-m version.
Anybody have any suggestions for a ROM? It doesn't necessarily need to be the latest version of Android. It just needs to be compatible with the old bootloader
If you're still on MDJ stay on MDJ, don't update your bootloader, only the modem. 4.3 don't have KNOX, just don't update from OTA.
AoEKiller said:
If you're still on MDJ stay on MDJ, don't update your bootloader, only the modem. 4.3 don't have KNOX, just don't update from OTA.
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Don't worry. I won't I am just looking for an at least 4.4 ROM without Knox
AFAIK Knox is on the 4.3 build
Here are a few pics if some of you still don't believe me
Anyone?
Heard also Chrome is losing support for Android 4.2.2