[Q] Bootloader decision - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody,
I have an unlocked (debranded) romanian N9005 currently rooted using Mobile Odin Pro with Knox intact on 4.3 MJ7. With the current release of 4.4.2, I read that I need to update the bootloader if I flash it using MOP or else I'll experience bootloops.
Updating the bootloader won't be so bad assuming I'll be at least able to update to newer options with root and Knox intact since other then App Ops I can't think of any reason to downgrade to 4.3. But my worry is that once I update the bootloader, if I will ever have to turn my phone for a repair (presuming it will be something that's not caused by my modifications) I won't be able to re-root my phone without tripping Knox (since even without having Knox tripped I'd have to get rid of root before handing it to Samsung) because I won't be able to downgrade to 4.3 so I can re-root using URLDV. So basically, I also want to know if it's possible and worth waiting for a supposed method to downgrade to 4.3 that's somehow dependent on this bootloader I have. This is my first Android phone and that's why I'm not very familiar with what developers can do for these kinds of situations.
Thank you!

TwasBeats said:
Hello everybody,
I have an unlocked (debranded) romanian N9005 currently rooted using Mobile Odin Pro with Knox intact on 4.3 MJ7. With the current release of 4.4.2, I read that I need to update the bootloader if I flash it using MOP or else I'll experience bootloops.
Updating the bootloader won't be so bad assuming I'll be at least able to update to newer options with root and Knox intact since other then App Ops I can't think of any reason to downgrade to 4.3. But my worry is that once I update the bootloader, if I will ever have to turn my phone for a repair (presuming it will be something that's not caused by my modifications) I won't be able to re-root my phone without tripping Knox (since even without having Knox tripped I'd have to get rid of root before handing it to Samsung) because I won't be able to downgrade to 4.3 so I can re-root using URLDV. So basically, I also want to know if it's possible and worth waiting for a supposed method to downgrade to 4.3 that's somehow dependent on this bootloader I have. This is my first Android phone and that's why I'm not very familiar with what developers can do for these kinds of situations.
Thank you!
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Chances of downgrade happening in the future are slim to non existent.
Upgrading, via Odin to Official ROM won't hurt your phone. - If you update the bootloader you Must upgrade the ROM also.
You won't be able to re-root your phone unless you update via Mobile Odin - correct.

radicalisto said:
Chances of downgrade happening in the future are slim to non existent.
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So basically you say that I should wait for Samsung to unlock their bootloader sometime in the future when the phone inevitably goes out of the spotlight?
radicalisto said:
Upgrading, via Odin to Official ROM won't hurt your phone. - If you update the bootloader you Must upgrade the ROM also.
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I was talking about upgrading to the official rom and thus updating the bootloader too.

TwasBeats said:
So basically you say that I should wait for Samsung to unlock their bootloader sometime in the future when the phone inevitably goes out of the spotlight?
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Won't ever happen, Samsung have locked them on purpose. - Same happened on MJ7 downgrade was impossible, Samsung class downgrading as a security risk hence them blocking it.
I was talking about upgrading to the official rom and thus updating the bootloader too.
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Was just checking.

radicalisto said:
Won't ever happen, Samsung have locked them on purpose. - Same happened on MJ7 downgrade was impossible, Samsung class downgrading as a security risk hence them blocking it.
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It's one thing to not let you downgrade without tripping Knox which is fairly reasonable but not letting you downgrade at all even when you have tripped Knox and having the phone deemed by Samsung as a security risk is ridiculous. It may be my first Samsung phone but chances are it's going to also going to be my last one if they continue this ridiculous policy.

TwasBeats said:
It's one thing to not let you downgrade without tripping Knox which is fairly reasonable but not letting you downgrade at all even when you have tripped Knox and having the phone deemed by Samsung as a security risk is ridiculous. It may be my first Samsung phone but chances are it's going to also going to be my last one if they continue this ridiculous policy.
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Welcome to Samsung lol.

Is it possible that Samsung might release 4.4.2 for N9005 in one of regions it's available? I read that the Mexican N900W8 has the bootloader unlocked.

TwasBeats said:
It's one thing to not let you downgrade without tripping Knox which is fairly reasonable but not letting you downgrade at all even when you have tripped Knox and having the phone deemed by Samsung as a security risk is ridiculous. It may be my first Samsung phone but chances are it's going to also going to be my last one if they continue this ridiculous policy.
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You're not alone, it's not my 1st Samsung phone but it might be the last one.

Apparently you can upgrade with MOP, will still require a factory reset so backup, by flashing KK with MOP then using PC ODIN to flash the bootloader (and MODEM?). You need the broken up rom though...
Don't know for sure as I had already tripprd Knox long ago and updated to KK...

I was well aware of that but my main concern is a downgrade solution would get developed that requires the old bootloader after I've presumably already updated. Anyhow I think today I'll just update today and get rid of a worry.
Wiping everything isn't necessary, but I will still do it.

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[Q] Note 3 OTA update

Hi,
I have question regarding the OTA update, which I am not get it in my Note 3 SM-N9005 (not rooted),my current firmware is MJ1. When i click on check for update it tells me that i have the latest firmware!!
Am i missing something?why my note 3 not updating?
thank you.
It hasn't been rolled out to your region yet.
ilikegoogle said:
It hasn't been rolled out to your region yet.
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how long does it take to rollout to all regions?
I live in Malaysia
thank you
OTA
I got my OTA update yesterday yet to find out the change log for your region I guess the update has not yet been rolled out it will take some more time
Dahdoul said:
Hi,
I have question regarding the OTA update, which I am not get it in my Note 3 SM-N9005 (not rooted),my current firmware is MJ1. When i click on check for update it tells me that i have the latest firmware!!
Am i missing something?why my note 3 not updating?
thank you.
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just go here and download latest update http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N9005
and save yourself lot of time waiting for update
Just be aware you will change your CSC and also your bootloader to the newest. As your region hasn't updated to a firmware with the latest bootloader if you have a problem and need to do an emergency firmware restore, it won't work. Your phone will start bootlooping as the older firmware is incompatible with the new bootloader...
ultramag69 said:
Just be aware you will change your CSC and also your bootloader to the newest. As your region hasn't updated to a firmware with the latest bootloader if you have a problem and need to do an emergency firmware restore, it won't work. Your phone will start bootlooping as the older firmware is incompatible with the new bootloader...
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so I shouldn't update if I'm rooted?
wudien said:
so I shouldn't update if I'm rooted?
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OK, depends how you do it. I've used Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade firmware from MJ1 to MJ7 while still retaining root. This also has the extra benefit of NOT flashing that new crusty bootloader that won't allow root or triggering warranty void.
Also I can still do my emergency recovery as it has the old bootloader.
There are people using RDLVC to upgrade to newer firmwares but Mobile ODIN Pro is easier for me (just remember though, Knox will ALWAYS be triggered if you flash a custom kernel\recovery - this is for stock flash only).
As long as you have the old bootloader, you can upgrade using MOP without triggering Knox.
Kingoapp and Vroot have been removed from XDA as there was extra information being taken from your device for no good reason... You will probably see clone phones with these IMEI's coming out in a while...
ultramag69 said:
OK, depends how you do it. I've used Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade firmware from MJ1 to MJ7 while still retaining root. This also has the extra benefit of NOT flashing that new crusty bootloader that won't allow root or triggering warranty void.
Also I can still do my emergency recovery as it has the old bootloader.
There are people using RDLVC to upgrade to newer firmwares but Mobile ODIN Pro is easier for me (just remember though, Knox will ALWAYS be triggered if you flash a custom kernel\recovery - this is for stock flash only).
As long as you have the old bootloader, you can upgrade using MOP without triggering Knox.
Kingoapp and Vroot have been removed from XDA as there was extra information being taken from your device for no good reason... You will probably see clone phones with these IMEI's coming out in a while...
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well. Unfortunately att forcefully updated my phone while I was sleeping and broke root . but it says I'm still on MJ5..
wudien said:
well. Unfortunately att forcefully updated my phone while I was sleeping and broke root . but it says I'm still on MJ5..
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As far as I've read, anything over MJ3 contains the new anti-root bootloader. Flashing any form of root will trigger knox warranty void...

[Q] Downgrade Dilemna Please Help

Hey Guys just wondering
Does anyone have any suggestions on How I can go back to MJ1 from
N900W8VLUBMJ4 ?
The latest OTA update makes my phone heat up while using the phone where normally it stayed super cool.
The performance was awesome already, I am unsure as to why I took the OTA update. sigh.
I am afraid my Boot loader is updated on N900W8VLUBMJ4 which would mean I cannot downgrade back to
N900W8VLUBMJ1 ?
I would really like to revert back. I am thinking of Rooting/0X0 via RDLV and then flashing via ODIN back to N900W8VLUBMJ1 baseband version.
Thanks for any suggestions!
1sagain said:
Hey Guys just wondering
Does anyone have any suggestions on How I can go back to MJ1 from
N900W8VLUBMJ4 ?
The latest OTA update makes my phone heat up while using the phone where normally it stayed super cool.
The performance was awesome already, I am unsure as to why I took the OTA update. sigh.
I am afraid my Boot loader is updated on N900W8VLUBMJ4 which would mean I cannot downgrade back to
N900W8VLUBMJ1 ?
I would really like to revert back. I am thinking of Rooting/0X0 via RDLV and then flashing via ODIN back to N900W8VLUBMJ1 baseband version.
Thanks for any suggestions!
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As you have thought about it, you won't be able to downgrade back to MJ1 due to the bootloader issue. Instead of downgrade, why don't you upgrade to MJ7? So far there is no issue with this firmware and many has reported that the modem is pretty good as well. However since you are in MJ4, I'm afraid you might not be able to root your Note 3 without tripping the bootloader. If root is not important, then download the MJ7 firmware and flash via PC Odin and you are good to go
williamyi said:
As you have thought about it, you won't be able to downgrade back to MJ1 due to the bootloader issue. Instead of downgrade, why don't you upgrade to MJ7? So far there is no issue with this firmware and many has reported that the modem is pretty good as well. However since you are in MJ4, I'm afraid you might not be able to root your Note 3 without tripping the bootloader. If root is not important, then download the MJ7 firmware and flash via PC Odin and you are good to go
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Hey Just a quick question then. from my understanding. flashing Firmware's will not trip Knox via Odin.
(I also do not see the full negatives of tripping knox. We can avoid it yes. and it hurts warranty. does it physically damage your device?)
Thank you
1sagain said:
Hey Just a quick question then. from my understanding. flashing Firmware's will not trip Knox via Odin.
(I also do not see the full negatives of tripping knox. We can avoid it yes. and it hurts warranty. does it physically damage your device?)
Thank you
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So far I have not seen any reported case that flashing firmware via PC Odin will trip knox and it is quite a safe process to carry out. But it is always safe to keep a copy of your region latest firmware just in case you need to send it back for warranty.
Tripping knox or root do not cause any harm or damage to your device. Is only if you try to do something out of the norm or didn't follow the instruction posted by developer in flashing some stuff that might brick your device. So far in my country there is one reported case that the user successfully claim warranty for a faulty USB port with a rooted and knox tripped 0x1 Note 3. It's very much depends on the SC.
But if you really want root, then just ignore the Note 3 and get a good protection for your Note 3 so that it could reduce the likelihood to visit SC. If root is not important, flashing MJ7 via odin is pretty good.

[ROOT] Rooting MJ7 on SM-N9005 possible?

Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
cool400 said:
Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
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If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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At this time - No.
I think the only safe way of rooting MJ7 at this point is if you're coming from MJ1 and can root MJ1 first. If I remember correct, MJ3 and above installs a new bootloader which has been patched to prevent RDLV and similar to get around knox. Android 4.4 KitKat is almost here, so I wouldn't worry about it.. I rooted mine just to disable knox but apart from that it's not that much else to do with it.. A few mods with Wanam Xposed if you want, but there's not that much in there that is needed for the Note 3 in my opinion..
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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antt00 said:
What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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the answer is YES but only if you are on an non-rooted ROM. basically you don't get updates only if you are rooted
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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Getting ota is related to the phone being in official status not knox. Even if you have issue with ota you can just download the official rom and flash with odin. There is no way tripping knox is going to prevent future rom upgrading.
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Should I upgrade from MJ7 to KitKat?
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
Alex_007 said:
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
If you still want to stay at MJ7, and root it, I can only tell you, up to now I write this, there's still no method for a safe tripping root method for MJ7, because this firmware has a new bootloader for 4.3 which has a samsung patch. And don't ever think to downgrade to earlier 4.3, coz this is also impossible.
If you want to safe your KNOX flag, at the moment, don't root. If you want to root, you have to let go your KNOX flag.
You can wait, but nobody knows how long you should wait. because at the other end, samsung also keep on updating its bootloader.
Choice is yours, mate.
Cheers.
antique_sonic said:
KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
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Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? I guess my data won't be deleted and knox won't be affected.
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
Alex_007 said:
Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? Will my data be lost after firmware update through Odin?
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
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Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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antique_sonic said:
Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
Alex_007 said:
Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
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Not trying to scare u. But u better backup ur contacts, sms, or other stuff from ur internal storage.
My last bad experience was... yes device nver ask to factory reset after update. But after few weeks of usage, it suddenly freeze until very hot, and reboot, and voila... all gone.
This happen to note 2 when upgrade via ota from 4.1.2 to 4.3. and device belongs to my boss, and I m the one who did the ota update. So happy when don't need to factory reset, but I got Fcuk when his data all suddenly gone.
Anyway... no harm back up ur important data.
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[Q] Does reinstalling stock firmware trip knox on Note 3?

I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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no it wont
markslo112 said:
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
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Tnx for the tip. Already tried that 2 times. No luck
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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it won't trip Knox, i tried it several times as long as they are official roms
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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long as they are official samsung roms you be ok....
I reinstalled my firmware and I can confirm that it indeed won't trip Knox.
As it might be useful I also want to share that updating using my Mac (with VMWare for Windows) gave me a lot of troubles. After using a native Windows laptop the update went fine.
Too bad it didn't solve my problem. Going back to the store to claim my warranty.
jaythenut said:
no it wont
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So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
Medical HRH said:
So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
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You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
ultramag69 said:
You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
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I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
Medical HRH said:
I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
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You have to be rooted to flash the custom roms provided here and that will mostly be thru recovery. It will surely trip knox. To flash stock roms from sammobile you don't need root. That can be done thru odin.
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I would suggest however, if you are network locked to unlock 1st... If you need to flash a separate modem afterwards this can trip Knox as you aren't really using a "Stock rom"...
Also make sure re-activation lock is OFF.... If you go to Kitkat and you don't have a KK rom yet you are stuck with a softbricked phone until you do get the KK rom... You can't go back to JB after flashing KK rom due to a new bootloader...

[Q] Question about KNOX (god I hate it)

I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to the OTA 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
nexxusty said:
I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
jaythenut said:
knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Yes your be fine but you will loose root
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Also, any idea how to reset the flash counter after flashing 4.4.2? Or will it be ok considering I only rooted?
Not sure on this either.
jaythenut said:
Yes your be fine but you will loose root
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NP losing root.
Thanks!
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
nexxusty said:
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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No issues, back to Official status.
I actually have major flashlighting on the left side of my screen. Only visible with white is anywhere BUT the left side of the screen (Best way I can explain it). Anyone know if Samsung will repair this?
Not interested in defective hardware, it's obvious this Note 3 is a one off and needs a new screen. Hoping Samsung is not going to deny me.
Just need to pick up my replacement HTC One on my actual plan (Bought this one straight up, HTC One I had was lost, have insurance.).
REALLY would like to know about the flash counter before I send this off. It has been rooted with Root De La Whatever it is (LOL) then unrooted via SuperSU, then I Odin'd the 4.4.2 update. There was a checkbox ticked called "F.Reset Time", is that it?
I'll look a bit before making my own thread on this one if no has a quick answer.
Thanks again, XDA never lets me down.

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