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When I frist got my n7, I believe it took about 30-40 seconds to boot up. As I have installed apps it has taken longer and longer.
I've cleared up a fair about of space (1.5 gig free) but it's still a slow bootup.
I've read all about google 'takes of everything' and will kill idle processes, but really I don't want to give these apps permission to start in the first place. here's an example: appsales, a neat app that will let you see what is on sale. But I want to run it when I want to run, not get notifications in my task bar '5 new apps on sale!'. I'm not saying this app is the culprit but you get my point.
From what I've read, there's no real way to stop this, task killers just continually check and re-kill the app. I just wanted to confirm, there's no way, (even with a custom rom) to have control and say no this app can never launch?
If that's true, what do others use to kill background apps.
I was going to wipe it and install a custom rom, but I bet as I install all my apps again, I'll be back in the same boat. And I've read others install their apps one at a time to find which ones are causing issues, well there must be a better way.
Remember when you first started using windows 95/98 and you discovered msconfig? It was like, 'Cool now I can stop all these freaking apps from loading at startup!'
here you go, only enable the apps you want, and problem solved. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnN0YXJ0dXBtYW5hZ2VyIl0.
You could go one step further and use openpdroid. You will need to be rooted on a non-stock ROM, though.
Once you have it installed, you can control a slew of permissions, including the one that allows booting at start.
I know they worked when I first got the phone, because I played around with them a bit just to see what they could do. I rooted the phone a few days ago, I think it was Sunday, and then just earlier today I saw a thread about how to add other apps to Pen Window. So I installed BusyBox and Pen Window Manager to do so, added a few apps, restarted. Now when I bring up the Pen menu, clicking on Pen Window makes the usual sound and the menu disappears, but nothing happens. Same with Scrap Booker, but the other 3 work as they should. I don't know whether this is a recent change because I hadn't tried to use either of the two broken apps since just after I got the phone (Oct 10). How do I troubleshoot this? I have XPrivacy installed, I don't know if it's related to that, but the only thing I have restricted is Facebook. I also have App Settings for Xposed installed, but I don't think anything in there is changed that would relate to this issue. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Edit, Solved: Answered my own question. Went through Titanium Backup, where I was pretty heavy handed freezing apps I considered bloat. Unfroze any that might be related, and Pen Window and Scrap Book worked again. So I went through and refroze one-by-one until they stopped working again. "RakeIn 1.0" was the culprit that disabled both, so if you have a similar issue, make sure that is not frozen or deleted.
mynameismolotov said:
I know they worked when I first got the phone, because I played around with them a bit just to see what they could do. I rooted the phone a few days ago, I think it was Sunday, and then just earlier today I saw a thread about how to add other apps to Pen Window. So I installed BusyBox and Pen Window Manager to do so, added a few apps, restarted. Now when I bring up the Pen menu, clicking on Pen Window makes the usual sound and the menu disappears, but nothing happens. Same with Scrap Booker, but the other 3 work as they should. I don't know whether this is a recent change because I hadn't tried to use either of the two broken apps since just after I got the phone (Oct 10). How do I troubleshoot this? I have XPrivacy installed, I don't know if it's related to that, but the only thing I have restricted is Facebook. I also have App Settings for Xposed installed, but I don't think anything in there is changed that would relate to this issue. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Edit, Solved: Answered my own question. Went through Titanium Backup, where I was pretty heavy handed freezing apps I considered bloat. Unfroze any that might be related, and Pen Window and Scrap Book worked again. So I went through and refroze one-by-one until they stopped working again. "RakeIn 1.0" was the culprit that disabled both, so if you have a similar issue, make sure that is not frozen or deleted.
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I did the exact same thing as you did... Rooted, froze a bunch of apps with TB, and lost pen window.
Thank you for supplying the fix!!
Cheers homie! :good:
mynameismolotov said:
I know they worked when I first got the phone, because I played around with them a bit just to see what they could do. I rooted the phone a few days ago, I think it was Sunday, and then just earlier today I saw a thread about how to add other apps to Pen Window. So I installed BusyBox and Pen Window Manager to do so, added a few apps, restarted. Now when I bring up the Pen menu, clicking on Pen Window makes the usual sound and the menu disappears, but nothing happens. Same with Scrap Booker, but the other 3 work as they should. I don't know whether this is a recent change because I hadn't tried to use either of the two broken apps since just after I got the phone (Oct 10). How do I troubleshoot this? I have XPrivacy installed, I don't know if it's related to that, but the only thing I have restricted is Facebook. I also have App Settings for Xposed installed, but I don't think anything in there is changed that would relate to this issue. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Edit, Solved: Answered my own question. Went through Titanium Backup, where I was pretty heavy handed freezing apps I considered bloat. Unfroze any that might be related, and Pen Window and Scrap Book worked again. So I went through and refroze one-by-one until they stopped working again. "RakeIn 1.0" was the culprit that disabled both, so if you have a similar issue, make sure that is not frozen or deleted.
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Great so how did the whole busy box thing go
andillaTO said:
I did the exact same thing as you did... Rooted, froze a bunch of apps with TB, and lost pen window.
Thank you for supplying the fix!!
Cheers homie! :good:
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Yep, glad to see it could help someone else out as well!
johnminator said:
Great so how did the whole busy box thing go
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Are you asking about it in relation to adding more apps to the Pen Window list? That went fine. Busybox installed without issue (well, I had an issue at first because XPrivacy had blocked some permissions from the installer and I didn't realize it, but that was an easy fix), as did the installation of Pen Window Manager. In the future, I hope to be able to have more control over how the Pen Window renders -- maybe with options to have minor cropping of specific apps in order to keep a more ideal aspect ratio, or have the window auto-adjust a bit to give a better aspect ratio. The main issue I have with Pen Window is just that it's too easy to have distortion by drawing the window even a little bit off of the ideal shape, and I'd rather not have to adjust the size manually to get text inside to look nice. But it's a very cool and useful feature still overall.
Seeing as though there's no more BajaROM thread, I'll post this is in the general Q&A section. Of course, while I am running BajaROM, I can't be sure that the ROM had anything to do with it.
Something weird definitely happened to my phone last night... at exactly 2:28am, it would seem.
When I woke up this morning, my live background changed to a different static background, my normal keyboard (thumb keyboard) was replaced by the samsung one, my clock widget was frozen at 2:28, the battery level read 87% (after charging all night), and hasn't changed all morning, even after an hour commute of phone calls and media play... tasker had inexplicably turned off... and I'm still finding odd things.
I restarted my phone, and my clock is more current now, but my clock widget and the statusbar clock are a minute apart for a portion of every minute (like they're offset by <60sec) Tasker still didn't turn on like it should have, until I started the app to spark it... as if it was the first time I installed it. (It does the same thing when I restore the app through Titanium Backup on a new ROM install)
I checked to make sure I still have root by starting Titanium Backup... I have root, but titanium backup says it's the free version now... when I normally have the Donate (Pro) version. I had to reinstall it from the Google Play store
I have a few nightly backup/refresh items scheduled in Titanium Backup at 2am and 2:30am... so I wonder if something went wrong.
If anyone has experienced similar issues, leave a comment.
Thanks!
DrPhant0m said:
Seeing as though there's no more BajaROM thread, I'll post this is in the general Q&A section. Of course, while I am running BajaROM, I can't be sure that the ROM had anything to do with it.
Something weird definitely happened to my phone last night... at exactly 2:28am, it would seem.
When I woke up this morning, my live background changed to a different static background, my normal keyboard (thumb keyboard) was replaced by the samsung one, my clock widget was frozen at 2:28, the battery level read 87% (after charging all night), and hasn't changed all morning, even after an hour commute of phone calls and media play... tasker had inexplicably turned off... and I'm still finding odd things.
I restarted my phone, and my clock is more current now, but my clock widget and the statusbar clock are a minute apart for a portion of every minute (like they're offset by <60sec) Tasker still didn't turn on like it should have, until I started the app to spark it... as if it was the first time I installed it. (It does the same thing when I restore the app through Titanium Backup on a new ROM install)
I checked to make sure I still have root by starting Titanium Backup... I have root, but titanium backup says it's the free version now... when I normally have the Donate (Pro) version. I had to reinstall it from the Google Play store
I have a few nightly backup/refresh items scheduled in Titanium Backup at 2am and 2:30am... so I wonder if something went wrong.
If anyone has experienced similar issues, leave a comment.
Thanks!
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This won't help you understand what's going on but for what it's worth I'm running Baja 16.1 and it's just fine. I don't use any exposed or wanam modules. Think that might be the culprit? That is if you run any..
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This won't help you understand what's going on but for what it's worth I'm running Baja 16.1 and it's just fine. I don't use any exposed or wanam modules. Think that might be the culprit? That is if you run any..
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I do run some (several) xposed mods and wanam/gravity box mods, and have been for quite some time on several devices. A string of bizarre events like that hasn't happened though.
It is strange, though, that I did install XToast just last night. This is an xposed mod that gives you more control over the toast messages received under different circumstances. Could be the culprit... not sure. I think I'll disable it and go back to BurntToast, a mod that does similar stuff.
Maybe switching from one to the other borked something?
Thanks for the input.
I also experienced some weird behaviour. I do suspect Titanium tp cause the problems, but I'm not yet 100% sure...
Not all of my issues are completely the same as yours, but still similar.
First of all, my device is a Galaxy S3 mini, CM11 installed, rooted, XPosed installed with several modules (but no Gravity or Wanam). All partitions are in ext4, external SDcard is in exFAT.
(1) root: During startup, Titanium asks an awful lot of times for boot access. Sometimes it does for 50-100 times. In the end, devices will still be rooted but startup takes a long time.
(2) startup: As mentioned: takes really long. With EVERY reboot, I get the "Android is upgrading..." message for about a minute.
This issue is solved by clearing all .odex-files with Lucky Patcher.
(3) Keyboard. I used Google Keyboard as my standard keyboard, but a while after installing/flashing (10 minutes to an hour) Google Keyboard uninstalls spontaneously (without interaction). This happened with all Keyboard versions I tried, in system and in data. And with or without it checked as primary keyboard in language & input settings. (because of those issues I switch to SwiftKey)
(4) Background: Background (custom wallpaper) disappears after a crash, and instead I get a static generic Android wallpaper. Also, every time I try to set my wallpaper back, device instantly reboots. (soft reboot which crashes and goes into a full reboot)
(5) Clock freeze: I've had those clock freezes a few times, but months ago. I think in my case it was due to some bad code in the ROM, not Titanium.
(6) Root: Even though in SuperSU settings I asked to remember autorisation, and automatically grant access, but after every boot, I had to grant permission to all apps using root access over and over again.
In order to try to solve my problems, I changed a few things.
- Google Now Launcher + XGelSettings instead of Nova Launcher. This didn't solve any of these problems, but I do like GNL more now
- I'm using Titanium Backup 6.1.5.4 stead of latest version, installed as a data app.
- I'm using SuperSU 1.98 instead of latest version, flashed as a system app.
- I'm using an older ROM version (CM M5 instead of CM M9/latest)
Most of my issues are gone now. I didn't check for (3) anymore.
armadiljo said:
I also experienced some weird behaviour. I do suspect Titanium tp cause the problems, but I'm not yet 100% sure...
Not all of my issues are completely the same as yours, but still similar.
First of all, my device is a Galaxy S3 mini, CM11 installed, rooted, XPosed installed with several modules (but no Gravity or Wanam). All partitions are in ext4, external SDcard is in exFAT.
(1) root: During startup, Titanium asks an awful lot of times for boot access. Sometimes it does for 50-100 times. In the end, devices will still be rooted but startup takes a long time.
(2) startup: As mentioned: takes really long. With EVERY reboot, I get the "Android is upgrading..." message for about a minute.
This issue is solved by clearing all .odex-files with Lucky Patcher.
(3) Keyboard. I used Google Keyboard as my standard keyboard, but a while after installing/flashing (10 minutes to an hour) Google Keyboard uninstalls spontaneously (without interaction). This happened with all Keyboard versions I tried, in system and in data. And with or without it checked as primary keyboard in language & input settings. (because of those issues I switch to SwiftKey)
(4) Background: Background (custom wallpaper) disappears after a crash, and instead I get a static generic Android wallpaper. Also, every time I try to set my wallpaper back, device instantly reboots. (soft reboot which crashes and goes into a full reboot)
(5) Clock freeze: I've had those clock freezes a few times, but months ago. I think in my case it was due to some bad code in the ROM, not Titanium.
(6) Root: Even though in SuperSU settings I asked to remember autorisation, and automatically grant access, but after every boot, I had to grant permission to all apps using root access over and over again.
In order to try to solve my problems, I changed a few things.
- Google Now Launcher + XGelSettings instead of Nova Launcher. This didn't solve any of these problems, but I do like GNL more now
- I'm using Titanium Backup 6.1.5.4 stead of latest version, installed as a data app.
- I'm using SuperSU 1.98 instead of latest version, flashed as a system app.
- I'm using an older ROM version (CM M5 instead of CM M9/latest)
Most of my issues are gone now. I didn't check for (3) anymore.
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Thank you for the information. I kind of suspect that Titanium Backup had something to do with my problems, as well, since it happened right around the time that a scheduled action was to take place. I think that TB was still in the middle of the previous operation at 2am when it tried to start the next one at 2:30. This has never caused a problem before, but maybe it was at the wrong place at the wrong time, as odd as that may sound.
Your problems seem to be a more constant hassle. Especially the parts about granting SU access several times. I'm leaning toward the fact that your external SD card might interfere a little. External memory is handled a lot differently in kitkat builds, which CM11 is. In newer custom ROMs, there are attempts made to "fix" it... but in your case, maybe it was counter-intuitive.
The issue is that, to paraphrase... Kit-Kat imposes a lot of data access restrictions on external media. So... if you create a file in one app... you can't modify that file in another. That's a bastardization of the whole thing, I'm sure... so look up the particulars from someone more qualified than I. haha
If I were you (and I had a few hours to burn)... I'd back up everything on your external card and your internal memory (a good idea in any case),
clear EVERYTHING and reinstall the latest versions of everything without the external card in your phone. See if you still have issues. If you don't, then the card might be a problem. Then, wipe the card and put it back in your phone, and let your phone reformat it. At that point, copy your backed-up card data to your external card in whatever way is best to keep KitKat from messing it all up again.
Luckily, I don't have issues with my external card, except for the fact that, say, if I want to put a picture of my son as my wallpaper or notification shade background... if I pick a file from the card, it won't load after I restart my phone. For stuff like this... make sure that you put the pic ON YOUR PHONE STORAGE. Consider it like this... you wouldn't have a lot of luck if your PC's desktop background or screensaver ran from the CD drive, as opposed to your hard drive.
@DrPhant0m
I already went to that process of backing up, wiping and so on. Actually, I already did it twice.
The first time, I cleaned my device, installed latest versions of everything, went through the restoring process. But most of my mentioned issues still existed.
The second time, I cleaned my device again, did about exactly what you mentioned, but I restored some older versions of the ROM, SuperSU and Titanium Backup Pro. And right now, my issues are gone!
Actually, I didn't realise there are so many KitKat-related issues with SD. Maybe my pictures indeed are/where stored on a faulty SD. But it's reformatted now, and it works. And I actually don't know if that picture is stored internally or externally, I selected the picture with/by Google Photo. No idea how it handles is
I'm not saying Titanium certainly will be the bad guy, but I'm quite sure it plays it's part in it. Other issues are caused by the custom ROM. In the last few months, developers of that ROM don't give a **** about solving issues, and introduce one new feature after the other, most of them still highly experimental. Maybe that's another problem I can't control at all
I have found that Titanium always deletes my custom wallpaper and replaces it with the Samsung default every time I do a backup. It also changes my keyboard (normally Hacker's Keyboard) back to Samsung keyboard. It started doing this several updates ago.
Verizon Note 3, 4.4.2, NC4, stock rooted
Titanium Free 6.1.5.6
Michele31415 said:
I have found that Titanium always deletes my custom wallpaper and replaces it with the Samsung default every time I do a backup. It also changes my keyboard (normally Hacker's Keyboard) back to Samsung keyboard. It started doing this several updates ago.
Verizon Note 3, 4.4.2, NC4, stock rooted
Titanium Free 6.1.5.6
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Every time you do a backup it does this? That's bizarre. Or, do you mean when you restore a backup? I want to say to update to the paid version and see if it fixes it, and if not... request a refund.
What info do you back up when this happens? I could see restoring a backup working against you. For instance, if you restore your keyboard and maybe even some language/input system files... it might default back to the standard keyboard because your confirmation to use a 3rd party keyboard (which could theoretically log all of your keystrokes) is no longer valid.
The background thing is a different story. When Titanium Backup works well... when I restore all of my "MUST HAVE" stuff after a new ROM install... it will restore my live wallpaper, too. There are often times that TB will NOT "work well" and the widgets and wallpaper (among other things) aren't restored properly... not to mention the fact that I can not get my bluetooth pairings and known wifi networks to restore, whether I use snapshot or XML.
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Every time you do a backup it does this? That's bizarre.
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Yes. It is.
DrPhant0m said:
Or, do you mean when you restore a backup? I want to say to update to the paid version and see if it fixes it, and if not... request a refund..
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No, I don't mean upon restoration. I mean I take a full backup (user apps + system apps), go off for a cup of coffee, come back, see that it completed OK, exit TI, and then I see that my background is back to the Samsung default and it I open something that needs keyboard, the keyboard is also back to Samsung default. I guess it was never enough of a bother for me to go to the trouble of buying it and then complaining. I figure that for free, I can put up with a minor annoyance.
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What info do you back up when this happens? I could see restoring a backup working against you. For instance, if you restore your keyboard and maybe even some language/input system files... it might default back to the standard keyboard because your confirmation to use a 3rd party keyboard (which could theoretically log all of your keystrokes) is no longer valid.
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I can see where you're thinking, but it happens right after *doing* the backup. I haven't even had the need to do a full restore yet, so I don't know what that would do.
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The background thing is a different story. When Titanium Backup works well... when I restore all of my "MUST HAVE" stuff after a new ROM install... it will restore my live wallpaper, too. There are often times that TB will NOT "work well" and the widgets and wallpaper (among other things) aren't restored properly... not to mention the fact that I can not get my bluetooth pairings and known wifi networks to restore, whether I use snapshot or XML.
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It's very odd, that's for sure.
Hi,
It has been a while since I have been able to play with custom ROMs as my previous phone was not well supported.
I have just now switched over to the Axon 7 and have just started setting it up as my daily driver. I Installed NucleaROM with LIGHT PATCH, Open GApps and ARISE Sound System. All seems to be working fine but I have one issue and I think it may be a feature from not just the Custom ROM of choice but the underlying source (ResurrectionROM/LineageOS).
When I first setup the phone, it had an option on the lock screen to customize how apps are closed (i believe the term was Smart Close) when the device is idle and the screen is off. I remember looking through it and having options for which apps are closed and which are to remain running.
Since then I have installed a collection of apps, one of which is the Garmin Connect which I need to run when the screen is off.
I am unable to find how to get to these options now. I have looked through the power options and cannot see it.
If anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your assistance.
As I have started to use the phone a little more I have noticed that this is having another effect.
It seems to be closing my keyboard app so every time I unlock it goes back to the stock keyboard and I need to select SwiftKey again.
I hope someone knows where these settings are.
I have found a workaround for now, but if anyone knows how to control the SmartBattery application, it would be greatly appreciated.
I believe this function is coming from the System App called Smart Battery. I have gone into Settings -> Apps then selected the menu to show system apps. From there I was able to locate the SmartBattery app and disable it.
This seems to be working for me as by Garmin Fitness tracker was losing BlueTooth to the phone before but not now with that app disabled.
I'm not entirely positive about this, as I've never heard of that app. At first, I thought you were talking about the screen lock cleaning feature from the power manager on stock. After your follow up post indicating you had actually found reference to the app on your system and a bit of Googling, I was able to find some reference to it. Nothing useful, I'm afraid.
Try using an app that can launch activities, like Nova Launcher or Tasker. Try to find the app in the list, and see if you can launch it by calling for one of its activities.
P.S., if you're running RR, if you have a look at the extended settings, there might be a way to set the nav keys long-press action to a custom activity. Remember to enable the app, otherwise it might not show up in any lists.
Hi,
Today, I started seeing two weird things and have no idea if they are related.
- sometimes, while I am using any app like facebook, browser, or even dial, out of no where I see a black bar appearing at the top of the screen and at the bottom a hand icon appears beside the back button. I pressed this hand it showed me a message (game in progress swipe to unlock) as if I am playing a game in the game launcher.
- a pop up ad appears in the middle of the screen out of no where and I just close it.
I checked the recent app's, I got no clue, I didn't install any new app. the last one I have installed was a week ago.
I checked battery usage and didn't find anything suspicious.
any clue what is that?
Thanks,
i think its related to an app, did you install useless apps like clean master , antivirus , battery saver , speed booster etc etc? or check your downloaded stuff on a file manager, like apks or strange files, even if the app is not installed because sometimes on some websites there is suspicious stuff downloaded automatically
or try to do the big cleanup I mean delete everything you dont use anymore or dont need , maybe it can help
and check on settings/apps/3dots/special access /draw over other apps and see which apps are allowed to pop up and appear on top of other apps
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i think its related to an app, did you install useless apps like clean master , antivirus , battery saver , speed booster etc etc? or check your downloaded stuff on a file manager, like apks or strange files, even if the app is not installed because sometimes on some websites there is suspicious stuff downloaded automatically
or try to do the big cleanup I mean delete everything you dont use anymore or dont need , maybe it can help
and check on settings/apps/3dots/special access /draw over other apps and see which apps are allowed to pop up and appear on top of other apps
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Thanks alot
I uninstalled a game called (Siberian survivor Winter 2) and the problem stopped happening.
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I uninstalled a game called (Siberian survivor Winter 2) and the problem stopped happening.
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Happy to see that it helped when I install apps that don't come from Samsung, google, electronic arts etc , I mean developer I don't know , I always check on the settings/apps/ the concerned app or game, and see all of its permission to see if its normal for the app category. I mean a game that request access to camera,contact , dialer location storage.. display on top or change system preferences, you can uninstall because all of permissions are not hazardous but for a purpose and sometimes an app is just a pretext