Impression video of state of decay on the Nvidia shield, there is a small issue with gamma.
http://youtu.be/_AP3jg_jDHs
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Hello.
I wanted to share my experience... I love my Kindle Fire. It's an awesome little device. Even not taking into account the ridiculous price ^^
I love gaming in it, browsing, and fiddling with customization stuff in ADW Launcher EX.
But I noticed shortly after I received it that the screen was kind of funky. After displaying a still graphic or text for a couple of minutes, the image becomes "burned" in the screen around all borders, about half an inch into the screen. It is most noticeable by switching to a flat neutral color... The easiest way to check it is by bringing down the notifications overlay, which has a gray background. At first I thought that the notifications tray was kind of transparent, but that is not the case.
My 2 brothers also bought Kindle Fires, so I compared mine to theirs and found out that my screen is completely different. Colors are more greenish, and it seems brighter when looking at it perpendicularly. However, when looking at it at an angle, it loses a lot of brightness, which the other screens did not.
So I contacted Amazon tech support, and after doing just a cold reboot, they sent me a replacement kindle fire (which i'm currently waiting on)...
This leads me to think that this is a known issue. Maybe Amazon has 2 different screen suppliers, and one of them is of crappy quality. I recommend checking your screen against another KF, or at least checking to see if it has the "burned image" problem... You can do so by displaying a webpage, preferably white bg and black text, for 5 minutes still. Then bring down the notifications tray. If you see the "ghost" of the letters and graphics, then your screen is like mine and you should ask amazon for a replacement device.
Hope this helps someone!
Cheers.
haha damn... I was so sure there were no other threads about this. Not even google brought up any other posts talking about this. Still, more info on the topic is better, right? ^^ Sorry!
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Absolutely. No worries. I couldn't find but maybe one or two posts on it either using Google.
I threw our the other forum link because there's a few pictures and a link to Amazon'sessage boards with customers that have similar issues.
I went "OOO" when I saw your post though because the observations about the Kindle were similar to mine.
It's either multiple component suppliers or really bad QC or a combination of the two. I returned both of my Kindles and might wait it out for something else.
I hate LCD display raffles. The odds of getting two that are completely different ones seem pretty high or it's an extreme coincidence.
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Yeah, it's really annoying to get a bad LCD... It has happened to me with Dell laptops, but never with mobile devices.
My particular issues with the Kindle don't seem to be exactly the same as other people, since they only get dead pixels, light bleed or weird color temps. None (that I know of) have noticed image ghosting or poor viewing angles on their devices. Maybe this thread can work as a warning to check for these particular signs so you can see if you got an inferior LCD panel in your kindle.
I really like this device, kudos to Amazon for introducing a whole new price point for android tablets... But they should continue to acknowledge and take responsibility for poor quality items. And people should be aware of the issue so they can ask for a refund or replacement unit.
However, when looking at it at an angle, it loses a lot of brightness, which the other screens did not.
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Definitively sounds like a bad screen. IPS display panels (which kindles are supposed to have), should have a near 180 degree viewing angle without loss of image. That sounds more like what you get with a TN panel (what cheaper displays [sub 300-400 dollars in terms of desktop displays] typically use). Either the IPS display was damaged somehow in the process of making it or they stuck the wrong kind of panel on it.
IPS displays are also exceptionally bright. If any of you are experience "too much" light bleed all the time then that is generally not a defect. Read on:
Light bleed around the edges is typical for IPS displays (which nearly all tablets, touchscreen phones (minus the OLED ones like samsung's) and high end desktop/laptop displays are). The solution is basically turn down the brightness (because IPS monitors are also exceptionally bright). I have 3 IPS desktop monitors (HP2475 and 2 HP2335) and 2 IPS tablets (HP touchpads) and one phone and the brightness on all are around 30-35%.
Even ipads have the issue, because they too, are IPS displays (and so are iphones). Just random information..."retina" is just a fancy marketing buzzword for "high resolution IPS display."
Light bleed tends to obviously be more noticeable on dark backgrounds such as black. If it's really noticeable, your display is most likely too bright.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display#In-plane_switching_.28IPS.29
The kindle fire uses LG displays, (same supplier to many HP products, Apple, HTC and others). That should be a good thing, but defects do happen. Just another random fact...there's only a handful of IPS display panel manufacturers (LG, Sony/Samsung [a partnership], a few chinese outfits and maybe another Japanese one). Reason being the cost to make them mostly. Most monitors are just displays from those companies re-branded and wrapped in a monitor shell.
The single most expensive subsystem in the Kindle Fire is the display and touch screen, at a combined cost of $87.00, or 46.9 percent of the BOM. Amazon sources the display from two companies: LG Display and E Ink Holdings. The display uses E Ink’s FFS technology, which LG Display has licensed.
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To all people with the N4, I want to ask about the screen.
Does it function like a normal 720p resolution? Do YouTube videos take up the entire screen without black bars? Do games like ShadowGun etc render properly and take the full screen (with the soft keys obviously ).
Thanks
There are very tiny black bars on youtube due to the fact the screen actually has a slightly higher resolution than 720p. However, in practice you don't notice them.
I don't have shadowgun but there are thin black bars (top/bottom) on youtube vids, I expected that though since this isn't a 720p display (1280x720) it's 1280x768.
I've noticed when I connect the N10 to my LCD TV with native resolution of 1368x768 using a micro-HDMI to HDMI cable that the image doesn't stretch all the way to the edge of the display. Instead it leaves black bars on either side of probably 75-100 pixels. Does anyone else notice this?? Is there a setting I'm missing to be able to scale the display to fill the entire screen?
Doesn't fill my TV either, the issue, I guess is that it's mirroring so it won't change aspect, that may be different for videos but I haven't tried.
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I've noticed when I connect the N10 to my LCD TV with native resolution of 1368x768 using a micro-HDMI to HDMI cable that the image doesn't stretch all the way to the edge of the display. Instead it leaves black bars on either side of probably 75-100 pixels. Does anyone else notice this?? Is there a setting I'm missing to be able to scale the display to fill the entire screen?
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Only way to change the aspect ratio is through your TV. My 50in Philips LCD HD, has settings option to change the display view. Maybe in later firmware updates they may include HDMI options through the device.
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Yep, its the aspect ratio. TVs have standardized on 16:9. Android phones and 7" tablets are also 16:9, but since 10" tablets are meant to be held in landscape Google's set the standard to be 16:10 so the soft keys dont take too much of the display away from actual content.
Put in laymans terms, the Nexus has more height per width than your TV, so it either must use black bars, stretch, or crop. Black bars look the best of those options.
Good to know its not just me or my HDMI cable. If this issue is important to you to get resolved, please check out this link and star the issue. With enough votes Google might provide us more options to scale the mirrored output or select a custom resolution in a future release of Android.
It fills your screen when you watch a Movie or TV show though right?
So it is definitely possible for the Nexus to send the signal.
HI all,
I'm working on a DIY project to make a arcade cabinet. For this project im bound to a 4:3 aspect ratio screen due to design of the cabinet.
I thought no biggie, but now that i have the shield tv and the monitor i cant get the shield tv to full screen hyperspin.
It always goes to 16:9 aspect ratio.
Is there some way to get the 4:3 aspect ratio ?
Thanks in advance
I have the same issue, the Shield recognizes the resolution (1600x1200), but it doesn't adjust the interface accordingly.
Hello guys, this problem is more noticeable when watching videos at low brightness (>50%) in a dim environment. Shadow details in dark scenes are completely blown out and take an unnatural oily greenish hue. Like a pastel painting.
If anyone intends to replicate it, first make sure you're in a dark room. Bedtime with minimal ambient lighting should be the perfect situation (if you're the type who's relaxing watching movies on their phone before sleep). Otherwise you won't be able to notice the problem easily. Then, make sure you're watching a dark scene since the problem is only apparent where there is shadow.
A good example is the opening scene in Blade Runner 2049 with K and Morton having a conversation in a dark house.
This issue manifests with all common apps. Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube, Google Play Movies.
I used to have the exact same problem with my Galaxy S9 when it was just out but Samsung eventually issued a software update after a couple of months that fixed it. So this has to be software related and not an actual problem with the screen itself.
Google should be made aware though.
There is also an XDA topic describing it with photos too so you know what it looks like:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/colour-blending-blacks-problem-t3765385
Is there anyone who's already experiencing it with their Pixel 4? Should be the same with XL.
I checked on those sources and I don't have that issue.
It only shows up at extreme low brightness like < 15%. But every OLED phone I've used suffers from this.