I have bought 2 different (micro) USB 3.0 cables as spares to use away from home, but with these cables I am not getting the option to enable usb 3.0 mode.
The original (OEM) Samsung cable DOES allow USB 3.0 mode, on the same USB port on the PC.
This got me thinking WHY?
I'm wondering if maybe Samsung has done something out-of-spec with their OEM microusb cable to identify it as OEM, like an extra pin being shorted or something...
I've searched and searched and searched but I cannot seem to find any consensus for why non-OEM microusb 3.0b cables are not able to trigger USB 3.0 mode on the note 3.
All transfers only occur in 2.0 mode unless I swap to the OEM cable.
also: I *suspect* that this is also the reason that USB 3.0 OTG cables are not able to function in USB 3.0 mode
See this post concerning USB 3.0 OTG issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599045
Does anyone have any thoughts or input?
On top is the OEM cable,
the bottom two are non-OEM cables purchased from ebay. Both non-OEM cables are 3 ft, and build/thickness feels identical to OEM
rogerscorner said:
I have bought 2 different (micro) USB 3.0 cables as spares to use away from home, but with these cables I am not getting the option to enable usb 3.0 mode.
This got me thinking about WHY?
I'm wondering if maybe Samsung has done something out-of-spec with their OEM microusb cable to identify it as OEM, like an extra pin being shorted or something...
I've searched and searched and searched but I cannot seem to find any consensus for why non-OEM microusb 3.0b cables are not able to trigger USB 3.0 mode on the note 3.
also: I *suspect* that this is also the reason that USB 3.0 OTG cables are not able to function in USB 3.0 mode
See this post concerning USB 3.0 OTG issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599045
Does anyone have any thoughts or input?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493645
Here is another user's thread with a similar issue, but no one has tried to identify WHY generic cables arent working.
Can anyone confirm WORKING *USB3.0 mode* using a non-OEM cable?
if so, which one?
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On top is the OEM cable,
the bottom two are non-OEM cables purchased from ebay. Both non-OEM cables are 3 ft, and build/thickness feels identical to OEM
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Im using one of these and it works fine in usb 3 mode http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00..._385721_37038051_pe_217191_31005151_M3T1_dp_1
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Thanks for that. I just ordered one. Hopefully it works as it should.
It would still be nice to understand the reason for these other two cables not working like they should.
If anyone has an idea I'd love to hear it!
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Im using one of these and it works fine in usb 3 mode http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00..._385721_37038051_pe_217191_31005151_M3T1_dp_1
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Does *any* Micro USB cable work with the Nexus One?
Like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Cable-Micro-1-0m-Black/dp/B001QATRCA/
The G1 USB cable I currently use was the same price as the above, but it was actually branded as a "G1" cable.
Anyone know for sure?
yes, any micro USB cable. Heres a breakdown:
If your phone has an extUSB port, any extUSB cable or miniUSB cable will work.
If your phone has a miniUSB port, any miniUSB cable will work, extUSB would work but it cannot physically fit into a miniUSB port.
If your phone has a microUSB port, any microUSB cable will work, but no miniUSB or extUSB will work.
extUSB is HTC's semi-proprietary USB port which is simply miniUSB with an audio connector and unique socket shape.
All USB ports and cables of the same form factor have the same pinout.
MicroUSB has replaced MiniUSB and all new released portable devices will have microUSB most likely.
Xperia X10 miniPro connections?
Hi Folks - This is my first post and still getting used to how this board works, so please be patient with me!
I've got a similar problem regarding miniUSB leads... I've recently bought a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 miniPro... It charges via the USB port but the connector is not standard!
I'm wondering if anyone knows the pin-out of the socket and also where leads with such a connector can be purchased online?
Thanks for any help!
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And you thought asking Nexus One owners would be a good idea?
Try a Sony section, someone there is bound to know.
All microusb cables are not the same I found this out recently.
I bought a microusb "blackberry" that fit into my nexus one no problem but when I tried to use it to transfer files; windows would act like it didn't know what device it was.
Now i'm currently using a kodak microusb that will allow windows to know its the nexus one and I can I mount my phone but everything is copy write protected.
So when I get home I have to go back to my old beat up cord that wont stay in my phone until I find a suitable replacement that will let me mount and access the files.
I bought some blackberry microusb cables on Amazon for a penny back in March (yes, 1 penny each!). They work perfectly for everything. I guess somehow wondercoolguy managed to find cables that were even cheaper then mine
pfmiller said:
I bought some blackberry microusb cables on Amazon for a penny back in March (yes, 1 penny each!). They work perfectly for everything. I guess somehow wondercoolguy managed to find cables that were even cheaper then mine
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This BB wire fits the nexus like a glove but hates transferring information. Yes I got my wire for 1.00 from a mertine if I remember correctly....I hate that place
Afaik any micro usb cable will work. Micro usb is the new standard.
I haven't seen any charging-only cables but that is a possibility.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5389063/united-nations-approves-microusb-universal-phone-charger-standard
I have been using micro-usb cable for my external disk, Nexus/GalaxyS and my previously own Nokia N97. No problem for charging, transfer files or tethering. I even use old N97 charger (micro-usb connection) on Nexus One before. None of these had any problem.
Micro-USB is a standard connection, there shouldn't be a problem. If there is, it could be due to the system mainboard or mainboard's USB port itself. Try not to connect too many devices through a USB-hub that link up from a USB port of the system. If you really need connect it via a USB-hub, get those hub has a dedicated power adapter.
Just buy any cheap cable, it will work. I also bought two official HTC chargers for my phone as well as some random USB to microUSB cables. All work fine, just as do the cables from my Nokia phones, cameras and cables I found under my girlfriend's bed lol
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I dont know if anything I said was taken to heart please disregard it because I found out that my work disabled the flash drives to read only. It's not the cables fault all my cables work at home sorry
Hi
Now that Note 3 has a USB 3.0 charging port, is there a way to use the old Micro USB cable just for charging?
I have Note 2 & have four chargers with Micro USB cable for Home, Office, Travel & Car.
If I upgrade, all this will go waste. So I want to know if I can use these cabls for chargin purpose for N3.
Also is there a converter for Micro USB to USB 3.0 for charging purpose etc?
Pl do share options for me
Thanks
clive48 said:
Hi
Now that Note 3 has a USB 3.0 charging port, is there a way to use the old Micro USB cable just for charging?
I have Note 2 & have four chargers with Micro USB cable for Home, Office, Travel & Car.
If I upgrade, all this will go waste. So I want to know if I can use these cabls for chargin purpose for N3.
Also is there a converter for Micro USB to USB 3.0 for charging purpose etc?
Pl do share options for me
Thanks
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Search and you shall find your answer. It's backward compatible as mentioned in the other threads.
clive48 said:
Hi
Now that Note 3 has a USB 3.0 charging port, is there a way to use the old Micro USB cable just for charging?
I have Note 2 & have four chargers with Micro USB cable for Home, Office, Travel & Car.
If I upgrade, all this will go waste. So I want to know if I can use these cabls for chargin purpose for N3.
Also is there a converter for Micro USB to USB 3.0 for charging purpose etc?
Pl do share options for me
Thanks
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It`s a dual port.You can use your old cables with it.
You will notice that the USB 3.0 cable seems to consist of two connected parts - there's a reason for this, and that's because it does consist of two connected parts!
Regular MicroUSB cables can be inserted in the "wider" part of the USB 3.0 port.
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Dave
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Female micro-USB 3.0 connectors have always fit male micro-USB 2.0 cables just fine. Anyone who's owned a 2.5" USB 3.0 external HDD could've told you that years ago. The extra pins fit beside the existing 2.0 pins. It's the only way that makes sense.
I was wondering if anyone is having similar issues with aftermarket cables.
I bought 2 cables that work fine in 2.0 for charging/data transfer.
When I put them into a 3.0 ports nothing happens, there is no prompt to access the phone, and the USB options do not appear on the phone.
I have downloaded the Samsung drivers, and tried 2 different PCs.
I have no issues using the provided Samsung cable.
Any ideas?
I haven't experienced this. Actually, I think the Samsung USB 3.0 cable that came with my phone was bad. When I used it, USB 3.0 would stay grayed out. I had another one for a portable hard drive and that one works fine with the phone. Maybe just try a different brand. These cables seem rather fragile.
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I was wondering if anyone is having similar issues with aftermarket cables.
I bought 2 cables that work fine in 2.0 for charging/data transfer.
When I put them into a 3.0 ports nothing happens, there is no prompt to access the phone, and the USB options do not appear on the phone.
I have downloaded the Samsung drivers, and tried 2 different PCs.
I have no issues using the provided Samsung cable.
Any ideas?
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I purchased a 9ft Amazon Basics USB 3.0 cable and all is well. Connecting through a USB 3.0 port, my device was immediately recognized, and I had no problem transferring data files to and from the device.
My only guess would have been to ensure that your PC's USB 3.0 drivers are installed in order for the ports to work properly. Since you're not having any issues with the stock cable, I'm not really sure.
I don't know if it'll make a difference in this case, but I have USB Debugging enabled.
I have all of the drivers update and USB debugging. Think I just got some shoddy cables.
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I have the same issue. When i use my Samsung cable nothing Happens, But when I use the one from Extenal HD it works Perfect
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I have the same issue. When i use my Samsung cable nothing Happens, But when I use the one from Extenal HD it works Perfect
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I called Samsung and eventually after explaining what a micro USB 3.0 cable is and how it is supposed to work, and how it is not working, they finally gave me a place to send the cable and they will supposedly send me a replacement. I'm not holding my breath though. I think I would have had better luck addressing the envelope to "The Twilight Zone."
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If your 3.0 charger charges fine but is not recognized when plugged into a port I'd check the the port drivers and make sure they are up to date. But first plug into all of your ports. It could be that not all of the ports on your lap/desk top are usb 3.0 friendly. And I've seen instances where if the device has not yet been recognized it will not pick up the device theough a usb 3.0 link. So maybe first get your note recognized by using a 2.0 connector then backdoor with the 3.0 and see what happens.
samsung test all of their cords before they leave manufacturing so getting a dud is very unlikely yet not impossible.
As for the aftermarket cords I normally stick to belkin. Best build quality for a fair price.
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If your 3.0 charger charges fine but is not recognized when plugged into a port I'd check the the port drivers and make sure they are up to date. But first plug into all of your ports. It could be that not all of the ports on your lap/desk top are usb 3.0 friendly. And I've seen instances where if the device has not yet been recognized it will not pick up the device theough a usb 3.0 link. So maybe first get your note recognized by using a 2.0 connector then backdoor with the 3.0 and see what happens.
samsung test all of their cords before they leave manufacturing so getting a dud is very unlikely yet not impossible.
As for the aftermarket cords I normally stick to belkin. Best build quality for a fair price.
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I have tried everything.
I plugged into 2.0 and the 3 options pop up to select a mode where 3.0 is grayed out. That menu closes when you unplug.
If you lock your phone while in this menu, you can change the port, unlock the phone and the menu is still there, but it will not allow me to select 3.0.
I have 2 3.0 ports on my laptop, 1 on the docking station, and 1 on my standalone.
None of them work with the aftermarket cable. I will take it as a loss as I really only need them for charging away from home.
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I have tried everything.
I plugged into 2.0 and the 3 options pop up to select a mode where 3.0 is grayed out. That menu closes when you unplug.
If you lock your phone while in this menu, you can change the port, unlock the phone and the menu is still there, but it will not allow me to select 3.0.
I have 2 3.0 ports on my laptop, 1 on the docking station, and 1 on my standalone.
None of them work with the aftermarket cable. I will take it as a loss as I really only need them for charging away from home.
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That is indeed odd. Im not sure what to tell you. Hopefully someone will chime in and be of more assistance.
Try changing your network connections. Using usb3.0 puts on airplane mode. If u have wifi on or something it'll show greyed out. It might not be wifi but it's something similar. Saw the greyed out 3.0 the other day and changed a setting on my phone and it came back. Hope it helps.
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I am having the same issue. I have 2 white usb 3.0 cables that I bought online from china via ebay. They were supposed to be USB 3.0 compatible and they look similar to the original stock cable.
When I use the stock cable w/ my usb3.0 port in rear of motherboard, the phone prompts me to enable USB 3.0 mode. When I use either generic cable, it will only function in USB 2.0 mode (I get no prompt for 3.0).
I am running DarthStalker Note 3 Version 6 and 3.4.0_Compulsion Kernel_7.0 on Tmobile version Note 3
I am willing to sacrifice (cut open) one of my generic cables if anyone thinks they can help diagnose the exact cause
I am having issues finding an extra USB 3.0 cable that performs to the level of the one that came with my phone. (My OEM cable works great)
I think the issue is that the 3rd party cables use cheap, thin wire. They can put a micro USB 3.0 tip on it... but the thin wires can't carry the bandwidth.
This is most plainly noticeable by downloading an app that shows the current flow while charging. Try downloading "Galaxy Charging Current *Lite*" and charge your phone through various combinations of
cable (USB2, USB3, OEM, 3rd party)
receptacle (1A, 2A, OEM, 3rd Party),
USB port (USB2, USB3, motherboard, adaptor card)
...etc. Even wireless charging, if you're equipped.
(It should also be noted that the phone will throttle the current flow as it gets closer to full. You'll get higher flow at 30% than 76% or 96%... so keep this in mind as you try different configurations.)
I've found that I got the best current flow (1800mA) using the Samsung USB3 cable, connected to a powered USB3 hub's charging port (no data, just power). This would charge our 3200 mAH battery from 0 - 100% in about 2 hours. When I swapped in a cheap Amazon cable (CableMatters brand)... the current flow dropped to about 800mA... or 4 hours. I emailed CableMatters, and they confirmed that it's a design issue, and that the wires are thin. They were pretty plain about admitting it... and then told me to return the cables to Amazon.
I'm posting all of this useful information not only to be helpful... but also to ask for help. Has anyone found a suitable replacement for the OEM cable? I'm looking for a charging cable... I'm looking for thicker-gauge wires capable of sustaining high current flow.
Any help here? Thanks!
If you are not getting 3.0 speeds then it's not a 3.0 cable. There are many fakes on ebay and amazon.
Only buy Amazon Basics or Samsung branded cables sold by Amazon OR Samsung.
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Anybody figure out why the both charging port and charging cable that the phone comes with, have what looks like a double plug? One is a common micro USB port, and it seems that I can charge the phone with any old Android charger, as it will fit in this port. The other kind of looks like a USB port that you'd see on a digital camera. Just wondering what this is for, and why the provided cable has both.
Thanks in advance!
Airman1947 said:
Anybody figure out why the both charging port and charging cable that the phone comes with, have what looks like a double plug? One is a common micro USB port, and it seems that I can charge the phone with any old Android charger, as it will fit in this port. The other kind of looks like a USB port that you'd see on a digital camera. Just wondering what this is for, and why the provided cable has both.
Thanks in advance!
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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Oooooohhhh!! So that's what a micro USB 3.0 looks like! Cool, good to know. Thanks for the help.
bsweetness said:
It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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Great post. I did used USB 2.0 in past. But after read your post i am appreciate for using USB 3.0 port and cable.. How can i get it from ?
bsweetness said:
It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
rwideman said:
You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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Not true.
MHL works through the standard microUSB portion of the plug, just like it does on many other devices. The additional thinner side is to accommodate the changes for USB 3.0. The Note 3 was the first phone to use a USB 3.0 cable and have a USB 3.0 Micro-B port on the device, and Samsung is following suit with the S5. Samsung has been supporting MHL 2.0 since the S4, which only had a standard microUSB port, so there was no need to switch to a new port design just for that. And if you look at the MHL adapter you mentioned, it has a standard microUSB plug. The HTC One, HTC One Max, and HTC One (M8) (among other devices) also have MHL 2.0, and do so through a standard microUSB port. The extended port on the S5 (and Note 3) is for USB 3.0. It's not there for MHL.
And the Engadget review that you linked doesn't support your post, rather it just notes that the port supports MHL (which it supports it through the standard microUSB portion of the port).
Interesting. I got my $12 adapter in today and sure nuff, it is usb port only. Thanks, now I find this out I think that is stupid of Samsung to put the USB 3.0 extension as another port. Not that I use it that often....
rwideman said:
Interesting. I got my $12 adapter in today and sure nuff, it is usb port only. Thanks, now I find this out I think that is stupid of Samsung to put the USB 3.0 extension as another port. Not that I use it that often....
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There was no other way for them to add USB 3.0 functionality to the device while allowing backwards compatibility with microUSB 2.0. They wanted everyone to have the option of still being able to use their old microUSB 2.0 cables along with a different USB 3.0. I think it was definitely the right move instead of introducing a completely new plug that's not backwards compatible.
That said, a new USB 3.0 plug is coming that's not backwards compatible with USB 2.0 microUSB cables. It's been recently approved, but I'm not sure when we'll start seeing it on the devices.
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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Where can i buy the $13 adapter?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3Q7K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Check out the USB plug. See the blue plastic insert? Denotes SS super drives. Huge transfer speeds
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Hey, i just received my usb 3 cable (my s5 came with usb2...) and i think i got a fake one...
I bought it from here: ebay.com/itm/291161252997?var=590311054317&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Now the problem is, when i plug cable in it USB options there is no "Media device (USB 3.0)" option... Which if i am not mistaken should appear?
I don't understand... 190 cables sold and no one is complaining... Maybe i am doing something wrong?
You might connect it to a USB 3.0 Port, are you sure that you connected it in 3.0 port?
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You might connect it to a USB 3.0 Port, are you sure that you connected it in 3.0 port?
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Yes i am sure i connected to usb 3.0 port. I just found out that my external monitor connected via usb using same type cable as i ordered (but it's very short cable) and it is usb 3.0. Tried connecting with it and now i can see that option. So i guess that means i got fake cable...
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Yes i am sure i connected to usb 3.0 port. I just found out that my external monitor connected via usb using same type cable as i ordered (but it's very short cable) and it is usb 3.0. Tried connecting with it and now i can see that option. So i guess that means i got fake cable...
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Based from my experience, buying micro USB charging/data cable for Samsung is tricky since the wiring may not be the same as the normal USB cable. There should be 5 pins on the micro end, but sometimes there are just 4. But Samsung uses only 4 pins that might have been rewired. I'm not sure whether only Samsung does this or the same can be said of the other brands, but they may be the cause why there are microusb cables being sold that does only charging and no data function, and vice versa. And sometimes the pins may not be protruding out enough to make contact with the phone's charging pins.
I hope this helps.
You should try plugging in another USB 3.0 device such as a USB stick to determine whether the fault lies within your computer or the eBay cable!