[Q] Noob nandroid backup question - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How Much does nandroid actually store?
I'backed up my rooted 4.3 state with CWM.
I then flashed with the 4.4 google edition kitkat rom
If I try and restore from my previous backup in this state will it work or do have to re-flash with 4.3 before I try and restore from the CWM nandroid backup??

mbenson1000 said:
How Much does nandroid actually store?
I'backed up my rooted 4.3 state with CWM.
I then flashed with the 4.4 google edition kitkat rom
If I try and restore from my previous backup in this state will it work or do have to re-flash with 4.3 before I try and restore from the CWM nandroid backup??
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CWM is good, but i prefer use TWRP or Philz Touch (coz is updated and have more options). If u did a FULL nandroid backup (boot, system, data, cache, recovery and EFS) I dont think u will have problems:
- Go to CWM
- Make full wipe (system, data, cache and dalvik cache)
- Reboot in CWM
- Restore the 4.3 backup
- Enjoy it again :highfive:

Joku1981 said:
CWM is good, but i prefer use TWRP or Philz Touch (coz is updated and have more options). If u did a FULL nandroid backup (boot, system, data, cache, recovery and EFS) I dont think u will have problems:
- Go to CWM
- Make full wipe (system, data, cache and dalvik cache)
- Reboot in CWM
- Restore the 4.3 backup
- Enjoy it again :highfive:
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Ok this didn't go quite as easily as you suggested.
I did a standard backup with CWM (not sure if that included cache end EFS)
I did a full wipe and then restored my 4.3 backup.
This just resulted with it hanging at the Samsung text on boot.
I've managed to get back to where I started with a backup I made kitkat.
I'd be happy to stay with kitkat but I have no sms (messaging app dies as soon as it's launched)
Do I need to get hold of the stock firmware and do this via odin??
If so can anyone point me towards a good link for the stock Samsung firmware for the GT-I9505 S4??
Thanks in advance,
mbenson1000

mbenson1000 said:
Ok this didn't go quite as easily as you suggested.
I did a standard backup with CWM (not sure if that included cache end EFS)
I did a full wipe and then restored my 4.3 backup.
This just resulted with it hanging at the Samsung text on boot.
I've managed to get back to where I started with a backup I made kitkat.
I'd be happy to stay with kitkat but I have no sms (messaging app dies as soon as it's launched)
Do I need to get hold of the stock firmware and do this via odin??
If so can anyone point me towards a good link for the stock Samsung firmware for the GT-I9505 S4??
Thanks in advance,
mbenson1000
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If you want a stock from samsung here you go.Sammobile

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TWRP data restore not working

Hi,
I have flashed a new rom and i wanted to restore my data via twrp.
It was successfull, but my N7 was not able to reboot, because just booting and it havent done anything.
I made a wipe cache and dalvik cache but they couldn't help.
Any idea how can i solve this issue?
im using twrp 2.4.4.0
thx your help!
szabadgy said:
Hi,
I have flashed a new rom and i wanted to restore my data via twrp.
It was successfull, but my N7 was not able to reboot, because just booting and it havent done anything.
I made a wipe cache and dalvik cache but they couldn't help.
Any idea how can i solve this issue?
im using twrp 2.4.4.0
thx your help!
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You're confounding variables here... you're trying to use TWRP like Titanium (apps/data).
TWRP (like CWM) is a MONOLITHIC backup system, pretty much everything gets restored. Titanium is GRANULAR... and selected apps/data are restored WITHIN the ROM you've just flashed... not OVER THE TOP of the ROM, as you've just attempted to do... which will cause no end of problems.
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Here's what I would do.... restore your NANDROID backup as normal (factory reset, etc.)... Get TITANIUM from PlayStore. Backup your apps/data using that.
Flash your ROM... restore your apps/data using TITANIUM.
Rgrds,
Ged.

nandroid + flashing/restoring across roms

I'm having a little trouble understanding nandroid vs. other forms of backup and would appreciate some clarification. I'm running CM nightly on my Fido (Canada) G4. I took a nandroid as well as titanium backup of the factory stock image before I flashed CM.
A poster in the last thread I made suggested if I wanted to restore to stock, I could simply restore the nandroid, but I've also seen people say you shouldn't use nandroid to go across ROMs. My understanding is that nandroid is like having a filesystem backup, which would obviously not react well if you restored it over a new operating system (e.g. two different versions of windows). Or is nandroid more like say Acronis, which takes an entire disk image and overwrites everything?
Other misc questions:
- If I do restore via nandroid, do I need to wipe all data / cache / system data before or after the restore?
- I assume I can use titanium to restore SMS + all non-system apps across ROMs, which would save a lot of time.
- If I'm going from one CM nightly to another, would titanium work for system apps (e.g. all my settings, or contacts, etc)
- If I want to flash a new CM nightly, do I need to follow the entire wipe procedure just as if it were going from one ROM to a completely different one?
Thanks!
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
xBeerdroiDx said:
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
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yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
kabutar said:
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
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yes, system/user data will remain. understand, however, that if you perform one of these dirty flashes and you have a problem with the functionality of the ROM, you'll need to do a full wipe and flash to see if this clears the issue before you report the problem in the development thread.
kabutar said:
yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
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Your right on both titanium questions.. However its not recommended to restore system apps you backed up on a aokp/aosp ROM to a touchwiz ROM and the other way around... Other than that like I said your fine
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[Q] Has Anyone Gotten TWRP to work since MJA/MK2??

I have a consistent problem with Philz recovery since MJA & MK2 were installed, it won't restore my data partition. I would like to go back to TWRP 6.3.0.1 which worked flawlessly prior to MJA and the Knox changes. I have tried restoring System & Boot partitions with Philz then flash TWRP and restore the data partition but I get bootloops when I restart.
My question is has anyone been successful in using TWRP to flash, backup & Recover the S4 with MJA/MK2 installed?
I installed it with GooManager. Seems to work fine. I have the latest 4.3 MK2 installed. Now if I can just have my wifi back.....
ChadH42 said:
I have a consistent problem with Philz recovery since MJA & MK2 were installed, it won't restore my data partition. I would like to go back to TWRP 6.3.0.1 which worked flawlessly prior to MJA and the Knox changes. I have tried restoring System & Boot partitions with Philz then flash TWRP and restore the data partition but I get bootloops when I restart.
My question is has anyone been successful in using TWRP to flash, backup & Recover the S4 with MJA/MK2 installed?
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All depends on the ROM you're using and how you're setting up you backup partitions.
There are plenty of walkthroughs on how to use Philz or the lates TWRP in the specific ROM threads.
I have read dozens of threads, hundreds of posts and haven't seen anyone having success restoring from TWRP a TW ROM.
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from rmiller on Sac's thread...
How to backup / restore in twrp 2.6.3.1
HOW TO BACKUP
Go into recovery, select BACKUP
I WANT EVERYTHING... SO I select BOOT, SYSTEM, DATA, CACHE, RECOVERY, EFS
At the top select "BACKUP NAME" and add/change as you see fix then press GO
STORAGE SHOULD BE STORAGE:MICRO SDCard... if not tap it and select it then go back
swipe bottom slider and wait while backup performs it thing.
reboot system
wait while recovery reboots....
HOW TO RESTORE
Go into recovery, Go to WIPE
ADVANCE WIPE
select DAVLIK CACHE, SYSTEM, DATA, INTERNAL STORAGE, CACHE and Swipe slidder at bottom
back
back
back
select RESTORE
At the top STORAGE SHOULD BE STORAGE:MICRO SDCard... if not tap it and select it then OK or go back
Find your Backup that you want to restore...select it
I WANT EVERYTHING... SO I select BOOT, SYSTEM, DATA, CACHE, RECOVERY, EFS
swipe bottom slider and wait while backup performs it thing.
wait for restore to do its thing
Press REBOOT SYSTEM
wait while recovery reboots....
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leaderbuilder said:
All depends on the ROM you're using and how you're setting up you backup partitions.
There are plenty of walkthroughs on how to use Philz or the lates TWRP in the specific ROM threads.
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I am trying to get TWRP to work with the stock MK2 ROM.
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ChadH42 said:
I am trying to get TWRP to work with the stock MK2 ROM.
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Latest (2.6.3 - Reverepats zip) should work. It's really kind of weird some devices it works flawlessly others not so much.
I'm such a back freak I use Philz AND the latest TWRP to make nands of my ROMs just in case.

[Q] Stuck in boot loop after CWM backup restore

so i made a backup of my 4.4.4 in CWM and then i upgraded to 5.0.1 and made a backup of it too in CWM but when i Restored my 4.4.4 i got stuck in a boot loop i tried removing all cache and dalvik cache but it ain't working do i have to do a full reset or does it even work to down grade via backups like this?
RaW D Coy said:
so i made a backup of my 4.4.4 in CWM and then i upgraded to 5.0.1 and made a backup of it too in CWM but when i Restored my 4.4.4 i got stuck in a boot loop i tried removing all cache and dalvik cache but it ain't working do i have to do a full reset or does it even work to down grade via backups like this?
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did you restore using CWM or TWRP? just to let u know TWRP is not compatible with CWM!!! cheers:fingers-crossed:
yoniinfante said:
did you restore using CWM or TWRP? just to let u know TWRP is not compatible with CWM!!! cheers:fingers-crossed:
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CWM ofc
RaW D Coy said:
so i made a backup of my 4.4.4 in CWM and then i upgraded to 5.0.1 and made a backup of it too in CWM but when i Restored my 4.4.4 i got stuck in a boot loop i tried removing all cache and dalvik cache but it ain't working do i have to do a full reset or does it even work to down grade via backups like this?
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also please before restoring wipe everything, data, system, cache and dalvik, then restore your backup, good luck:fingers-crossed:
yoniinfante said:
also please before restoring wipe everything, data, system, cache and dalvik, then restore your backup, good luck:fingers-crossed:
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if i wipe everything will it delete the data (ringtones and download on the phone sd? (not the external sdcard) )
RaW D Coy said:
if i wipe everything will it delete the data (ringtones and download on the phone sd? (not the external sdcard) )
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no, it will not, cuz all that is suppose to be in the backup you made before, just clean the system before restoring, wipe data, system, cache and dalvik, then try restoring your backup and wait at least 10 minutes, and report back, good luck cheers:fingers-crossed:
didnt work =/
RaW D Coy said:
didnt work =/
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bro if there's nothing else then you will have to flash a stock rom thru Odin, and it will wipe your phone completely, but at least you will be able to boot your phone again, report back, good luck, cheers:fingers-crossed:
can't i flash it the stockrom trough odin and then just restore the data ?
it works when i restore my 5.0.1 backup but not my 4.4.4 =<
RaW D Coy said:
didnt work =/
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You upgrade your device to 5.0, so kitkat4.4 cwm backup didn't work 4 u bcuz ur baseband version changed with lollipop upgrade & cwm recovery is unable to backup baseband/modem.
U have to downgrade ur firmware to kitkat4.4 & then cwm backup will work.
how do i do that is it enough to just re-flash via odin will it reset to the correct modem and stuff?
RaW D Coy said:
can't i flash it the stockrom trough odin and then just restore the data ?
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bro ive never try that, but u can try, at least get the phone to boot by flashing the stock rom thru Odin, then try restoring just the Data. ive never done this before cuz I always use titanium backup, but give it a try, good luck, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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RaW D Coy said:
it works when i restore my 5.0.1 backup but not my 4.4.4 =<
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I don't know what u did bro mine works , cheers
RaW D Coy said:
how do i do that is it enough to just re-flash via odin will it reset to the correct modem and stuff?
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Yes,after flashing correct stock firmware ( full Odin package like xxx.tar.md5) with Odin ur device become brand new: official.
U have to root it again & again install cwm recovery.
For flashing stock firmware Tutorial,search on Google.
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Yes,after flashing correct stock firmware ( full Odin package like xxx.tar.md5) with Odin ur device become brand new: official.
U have to root it again & again install cwm recovery.
For flashing stock firmware Tutorial,search on Google.
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does it matter which stock rom i choose cause i mean doesn't samsung have like a lot of services installed in their roms for like special note pad stuff for the S-pen
[email protected] # said:
You upgrade your device to 5.0, so kitkat4.4 cwm backup didn't work 4 u bcuz ur baseband version changed with lollipop upgrade & cwm recovery is unable to backup baseband/modem.
U have to downgrade ur firmware to kitkat4.4 & then cwm backup will work.
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do you know if there is a backup app that backs up all like baseband and such so i can downgrade with simple backups?
Hi, in order to restore your Android kitkat backup you need to downgrade from lollipop. In order to do that you have to flash a stock ROM (from sammobile). If your device is not locked for your service provider then it shouldn't really matter which region's ROM you flash. Then flash cwm recovery to restore your backup. If after flashing the stock ROM you enter a boot loop (and maybe not allowing you to enter download mode to flash cwm) try entering recovery mode (Power + Home + Volume Up) and factory reset your phone through the stock recovery. This should restart your phone without causing a loop. After that just flash cwm back and restore your stock backup.
Hope this helps and let me know if you need anything else.
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[Q] Note 3 N9005 No OS

Hi Guys,
I think I pressed advanced wipe on TWRP and it deleted my operating system.
How can I get my phone back to stock Lollipop if possible ?
Thank you
Flash stock rom via Odin or restore your Nandroid backup via TWRP .
bassi12 said:
Hi Guys,
I think I pressed advanced wipe on TWRP and it deleted my operating system.
How can I get my phone back to stock Lollipop if possible ?
Thank you
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TWRP is still there, so you can install a custom ROM from in there (if you don't have a full backup (nandroid) to use) The Advanced Wipe comes up with all options unticked - which ones did you tick? All of them? If it was only system your data is still on the Internal SD and Data sections so you may want to do a backup of at least Data to your extSDCard from TWRP before anything else.

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