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Now that 4.4 is out how long do you think it will be till we get it?

Or do you think we will have to wait for custom roms?

GiZiM said:
Or do you think we will have to wait for custom roms?
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until someone compiled the build for the device

LastStandingDroid said:
until someone compiled the build for the device
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Safe to assume that we would most likely lose the Touchwiz stuff and S-Pen features? Pretty much go stock 4.4?

some of the under-the-hood improvements in 4.4 are pretty interesting/exciting.
but Samsung is gonna take ages.. probably
(I only need the Spen...)

wilflare said:
some of the under-the-hood improvements in 4.4 are pretty interesting/exciting.
but Samsung is gonna take ages.. probably
(I only need the Spen...)
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I think the Note 2 people are still waiting for 4.3 ...... So I think we'll have a long wait unless you go custom.

Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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maidangisme said:
Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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Not really fair to be honest. Every Samsung device I've had got at least 1 major update within a few months of its release. It's the the older devices, ie note 2, s3 that will wait ages or not get it. The S4 + Note 3 will get kit kat by January if history repeats. Also in the past Samsung have denied updates to older devices due to hardware limits, Google are claiming kit kat can run happy on 512mb Ram so who knows, maybe old devices might just get a break (pun intended, sorry )
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maidangisme said:
Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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This.
As always, samsung is super slow with updates, so don't bother in at least 6 or 7 months, and even with that, the note line is never the first one, so probably S4 and S5 will get 4.4 2 or 3 months before the note.

Saw someone quote a samsung rep tweet about them being more concerned about getting most of the older devices to 4.3 first. And about note 3 having to wait at least 2 months for 4.4
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on other news, HTC pledges to get 4.4 out to its HTC One in 90 days, Google Play Edition, in 15 days...
would be nice if Samsung could make and keep to a similar commitment

This is one thing, coming from iOS which is absolutely mind blowing how Samsung doesn't give a rats ass about being up to date. Why own a Android device that runs old software 1 month after buying it and not be allowed to update it.
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i dont think its going to be within a month but i ve had all the notes so far. i717 original galaxy note shipped with gingerbread(2.3)
got updated to ice cream sandwhich 4.0.4( i believe) and than got updated to jellybean 4.1.2
note 2 was ics→4.1→4.3 coming in next month
the updates come but they are slow......But we do have a secret weapon... XDA woot woot!
I wish it was faster but to be honest doesnt really matter to me since im just gong to mess with

They did sell a significantly larger amount of Note 3's in a much shorter period than previous Note devices. So who knows? We had 4.3 well before the flagship S4...
As for the N2 (and S3) still lagging behind, that's because they skipped 4.2.
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skibadee said:
...Google are claiming kit kat can run happy on 512mb Ram so who knows, maybe old devices might just get a break (pun intended, sorry )
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yet...G refused to update the gnex to 4.4 it doesnt matter if the new OS version will work on the phone, what matters is do they still wanna support an old phone
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Khizar said:
yet...G refused to update the gnex to 4.4 it doesnt matter if the new OS version will work on the phone, what matters is do they still wanna support an old phone
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To quote Engadget :
Update: There's still no official word on why this is the case, but sources close to the company have pointed the finger at a different hardware issue on the Galaxy Nexus: its Texas Instruments-built chipset. The company is out of the mobile business and as such isn't in a great position to give the support necessary for continuing OS upgrades -- presumably some of those 1,700 employees let go in the shift away from mobile could have helped. Now we'll have to see if the community can pick up where the corporations left off or if this is the end of the road for the Gnex and its other OMAP-based kin like last year's Kindle Fire HD, Nook HD and Droid Bionic.
Seeing as we're talking Samsung devices here, I think we should be ok
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joverclock said:
i dont think its going to be within a month but i ve had all the notes so far. i717 original galaxy note shipped with gingerbread(2.3)
got updated to ice cream sandwhich 4.0.4( i believe) and than got updated to jellybean 4.1.2
note 2 was ics→4.1→4.3 coming in next month
the updates come but they are slow......But we do have a secret weapon... XDA woot woot!
I wish it was faster but to be honest doesnt really matter to me since im just gong to mess with
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The note 2 actually came shipped with 4.1 jb.
I don't really know about the fuzz with updates. It's not like apple pushes em out on a monthly basis, only when needed. Same for Samsung, people should stop whining about fast updates, making them work etc takes a lot of time. If they release it early and there are a few bugs people will whine about that.
If the phone works and it does very smoothly here under 4.3 why do you instantly need an update?
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Could someone (in theory) create a stock google 4.4 rom for our Note 3?
I know stuff like eye detection and the S-Pen and god knows what else wouldn't work..

AOSP roms won't be out for a while until Samsung gives the community the binary drivers.
Samsung are slow at doing, only in Oct did they release the binaries for S4 6 months after release.
In theory you can download 4.4 and cook your own rom but without drivers from Samsung it won't be stable or certain hardware will not work at all.
If you want the latest and greatest Andriod then you should have brought a Nexus phone.
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KitKat 4.4

So anyone know a rumor or have a link or some go ol inside Intel when we can expect to see 4.4 being pushed or leaked?

DustinKimble said:
So anyone know a rumor or have a link or some go ol inside Intel when we can expect to see 4.4 being pushed or leaked?
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I read google edition phones will get it in 15 days. I'll be so jealous if htc one that I abandoned because of note gets it faster
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Oh, I meant to our att note 3 phones. Oh yea, my nexus 4 will be one of the first getting the update. Can't wait to play with it, I might even swap sims. The aosp 4.4 filechain has already been uploaded I'm just waiting for device specific.

HTC One 90 days from today. Note 3? Years.

Probably by the Note 5 well have it
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I laughed when I saw "Htc One will get 4.4 in 90 days" in the US. That's just plain not gonna happen. Sprint HTC One just got 4.3 when I left for this Note and At&T. I imagine it will be a while before any phone with a skin (Sense, Touchwiz, etc) gets 4.4.

Yea more then likely not until the next note comes out.
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Install the Google Experience Launcher and your pretty much good to go. Most of the apk are out and about as well. I have the new Hangouts and Keyboard apks running just fine on my bone stock Note 3. The only thing missing is being able to talk to the phone, which would wear off for me after the novelty set in
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Does anyone know if you can get the Kit Kat dialer as an app?

MadHatter01 said:
Does anyone know if you can get the Kit Kat dialer as an app?
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You could download the nexus 5 image and extract it from that, but I couldn't find it with a quick Google search.

Rippley05 said:
I laughed when I saw "Htc One will get 4.4 in 90 days" in the US. That's just plain not gonna happen. Sprint HTC One just got 4.3 when I left for this Note and At&T. I imagine it will be a while before any phone with a skin (Sense, Touchwiz, etc) gets 4.4.
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Yea I think it will happen....
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/...erica-will-have-android-kitkat-within-90-days
The developer version will get it in 30 days. So the HTC One Max will be the first phablet to be getting 4.4. That sucks. For us anyways.

I'm not trippin to hard. I'm about to flash 4.4 on my lgog
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Eagle117 said:
Install the Google Experience Launcher and your pretty much good to go. Most of the apk are out and about as well. I have the new Hangouts and Keyboard apks running just fine on my bone stock Note 3. The only thing missing is being able to talk to the phone, which would wear off for me after the novelty set in
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You have the Google launcher installed and are not able to say the hot word on the home screen to launch a search right? That's the state I'm in but the first time I installed it I had the "OK Google now" hot words working and I could search without button pressing. The I got greedy and installed almost everything I could from the dump and it went downhill from there. Had to reinstall stock with root to get back to a clean state and now I Dont have the hot word functionality...boo

Rippley05 said:
I laughed when I saw "Htc One will get 4.4 in 90 days" in the US. That's just plain not gonna happen. Sprint HTC One just got 4.3 when I left for this Note and At&T. I imagine it will be a while before any phone with a skin (Sense, Touchwiz, etc) gets 4.4.
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phones are S-offed.. we don't need to wait for AT&T

daddioj said:
phones are S-offed.. we don't need to wait for AT&T
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What phones? The One? Porting a rom on an S-offed phone does not count as HTC delivering 4.4 with Sense 5.5 in 90 days to all US versions. It will be impressive if it's done, but give their (and every other phone with a skin) track record, I don't see it.

AT&T will probably deliver 4.4 when Google rolls out its next version. Hell phones like the S4 and One just got 4.3 weeks ago I believe. I already have 4.4 running on my Nexus 4 perfectly thanks to the guys here who ported the Nexus 5 Build.
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From what I read today....the Note 3 didnt even make the list of devices that are getting 4.4
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butchieboy said:
From what I read today....the Note 3 didnt even make the list of devices that are getting 4.4
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Where did you read that at?

Rippley05 said:
What phones? The One? Porting a rom on an S-offed phone does not count as HTC delivering 4.4 with Sense 5.5 in 90 days to all US versions. It will be impressive if it's done, but give their (and every other phone with a skin) track record, I don't see it.
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they been pretty good. we'll what happens. but this is why I ordered a nexus 5. tired of the bs

I read that on phoneareana.com
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Note 3 very soon on KitKat?

According to SamMobile Samsung is already testing Android 4.4 KitKat on Note 3 :good::good::victory:
https://www.facebook.com/SamMobileOfficial

Can't wait for it to come to our note 3's
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GocaS6 said:
According to SamMobile Samsung is already testing Android 4.4 KitKat on Note 3 :good::good::victory:
https://www.facebook.com/SamMobileOfficial
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Good news!!

But that can still mean its many months away

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But that can still mean its many months away
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Well it doesn't have to be maybe we'll have a nice christmas gift

Sometime in Q1/2014. Google changed a lot under the hood in KitKat and Samsung certainly has to rewrite a lot of Touchwiz and S-Pen code to make optimal use of it.

Does anyone know some of the special, or new features kit kat will be coming with?
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patrick gayle said:
Does anyone know some of the special, or new features kit kat will be coming with?
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there is something call google.
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saintsimon said:
Sometime in Q1/2014. Google changed a lot under the hood in KitKat and Samsung certainly has to rewrite a lot of Touchwiz and S-Pen code to make optimal use of it.
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You're assuming that Google hasn't shared KitKat code with partners before its AOSP debut. Even HTC has said they'll have it out in less than 90 days, which admittedly is Q1 but they tend to be a bit slow. Still, all we're both doing is speculating here, it'll come when it's ready. I would be surprised if it's this month, myself.

ozaghloul said:
But that can still mean its many months away
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not months its just days matter .. and also they will fix kernel for exynos 5

alleshi said:
not months its just days matter .. and also they will fix kernel for exynos 5
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I really hope that you are right about this... it would be wonderful!
getting HMP on the Exynos 5 and Kitkat would be more than perfect!

NO HMP
zadigre said:
I really hope that you are right about this... it would be wonderful!
getting HMP on the Exynos 5 and Kitkat would be more than perfect!
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HMP i guess would'nt be available on the exynos 5 due to its architecture..

Will be next year before Samung releases it, plus theres so many Note 3 models its gona take them ages to get 4.4 out to variants.
Sony updated the Z1 today with 4.4 - only took them a week!

toker_X1 said:
Will be next year before Samung releases it, plus theres so many Note 3 models its gona take them ages to get 4.4 out to variants.
Sony updated the Z1 today with 4.4 - only took them a week!
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there are only rumours that suggest the z1 will get 4.4 today BUT it hasnt been released yet... looking at how sammy has already pushed 4 or 5 updates for the n9005 i wouldnt be surprised if we get 4.4. within a month

Khizar said:
there are only rumours that suggest the z1 will get 4.4 today BUT it hasnt been released yet... looking at how sammy has already pushed 4 or 5 updates for the n9005 i wouldnt be surprised if we get 4.4. within a month
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No way within a month! If samsung achieves that I will be very impressed.
But since it took them 6 months for them to get 4.3 onto the S4, I am not going to hold my breath.
I bet you a 'thanks' if we see 4.4 on note 3 this side of Xmas.
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toker_X1 said:
No way within a month! If samsung achieves that I will be very impressed.
But since it took them 6 months for them to get 4.3 onto the S4, I am not going to hold my breath.
I bet you a 'thanks' if we see 4.4 on note 3 this side of Xmas.
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I'll take that bet

jaythenut said:
I'll take that bet
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Your on! ?
Official release (no CM or AOSP)
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toker_X1 said:
Your on! ?
Official release (no CM or AOSP)
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Oh balls you win here's your thanks :silly:

toker_X1 said:
But since it took them 6 months for them to get 4.3 onto the S4, I am not going to hold my breath.
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Samsung made it perfectly clear they were not going to update the S4 to 4.3 before the first 4.3 device came out, because it would harm sales.
Since the S5 is still only a rumour, that issue is not currently valid.

ShadowLea said:
Samsung made it perfectly clear they were not going to update the S4 to 4.3 before the first 4.3 device came out, because it would harm sales.
Since the S5 is still only a rumour, that issue is not currently valid.
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LOL since S4 is a flagship smartphone Samsung should look after their premium customers not force to buy their lastest handset to get a firmware update. That is so pathetic!
It's thing like this that is making me dislike samsung more and more everyday.
Wouldn't surprise me if samsung is holding out 4.4 for the S5
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I bet we dont see tolte 4.3 till january

I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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thedadio said:
I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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If tied, flesh Wanam or DN3 ROM
Stable and fast, Android 4.3
I use Wanam the latest since he made it, long time and solid work!

Is dn3 a tw rom? Is it n7105 compatible? I cant lose wifi
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Try skynote in att section. Everything but wifi works
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You should wish for something better than a minor update to your phone for Christmas.
Just saying
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thedadio said:
Is dn3 a tw rom? Is it n7105 compatible? I cant lose wifi
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Dn3 is a touchwiz rom and it works perfect ( works better than 4.1.2).i don't think that could be compatible with n7105 and for wifi issue there's a fix on dr ketan's forum
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Ditto @Markbaja, I CBA to reread the op but why did you even care about the update? I'm 95% sure this is a troll, unless you forgot to mention you already bought a galaxy gear...

thedadio said:
I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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Yah me to. I bet me too even on febuary. I will never see:good: to slow update

thedadio said:
I dont think we will get 4.3 until january as xmas is coming up and samsung want to sell as many n3s before sending us any updates. I love my n2 but im considering buying a n3 just for 4.3. I know it sounds lame but im just tired of waiting
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Ok, so you want to support this fuc..king behaviour of Samsung by buying another phone from them....great idea....

The Note 1 got the 4.1 update around August or June if I'm not mistaken, while the Note 2 released in September last year.
The Note 3 released in September this year, luckily we've seen leaks or I would assume a similar timeline.
Surprising the S3 already has 4.3 rolling out before we do, they've already seen a major update, while all we got was 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2.
Granted, it sold in vastly larger quantities.
Even lower devices like the Grand, Mega have already seen major updates to 4.2.2 in their relatively short lifespan.
/frustration.

News about our Lollipop Update

http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...s-devices-to-get-their-hands-on-it-soon-28574
Just thought I would post that as this site claims that AT&T is rolling out the update soon. I haven't heard of this site though so I don't know if its credible. Just something I came across today that gives us some hope

Ive read from numerous sources over the past few months. The update always seems to be 'coming soon'. At some point, I think there was an official release from ATT saying early 2015 (But i don't have a source). Anyways, ill have to see it to believe it. Spring is rollin gout 5.1 Today on the Nexus 6...We just need 5.0 lol.
http://support.sprint.com/support/a..._Google_Nexus_6/WServiceAdvisory_542_GKB80765

i verify the sammobile site for the update and the page of the model sm-n900a are missing soo couldbe the update roll out soon
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I just hope we get this soon! I'm tired of our Note 3 variant always being the worst out of the bunch especially with things like a locked bootloader.

iblakejames said:
I just hope we get this soon! I'm tired of our Note 3 variant always being the worst out of the bunch especially with things like a locked bootloader.
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It's not the worst. Even their latest flagship S series (since S6 isn't OFFICIALLY out yet) hasn't gotten it. Even the M8 hasn't gotten it.

Sam Mobile
It is odd that the site no longer has any firmware for our device. Just last week they still showed 4.3 as our stock firmware.

iblakejames said:
http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...s-devices-to-get-their-hands-on-it-soon-28574
Just thought I would post that as this site claims that AT&T is rolling out the update soon. I haven't heard of this site though so I don't know if its credible. Just something I came across today that gives us some hope
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"with the Galaxy Note 3 likely to receive the update ahead of the current Note 4 and Note Edge."
Translation:
Maybe they'll start rolling 5.0 out before the end of the summer. 5.1? Probably not in 2015. And by then a real bug-fixed newer version will be out. (That big pile out behind AT&T is the pile of "go backwards fast" pills they each take every morning.)
But for me? I hate Material Disgust, my phone works just fine with 4.4.2, Towel Root and SafeStrap, and I'm in no hurry to maybe update to 5 with no way to get back to 4 if I don't like 5. I'd rather someone fix the Note 4 port - that's a nice ROM.

I didn't say it was the worst against other devices, it's the worst out of all Note 3 variants.

AT&T Note 3 Lollipop Update OTA Today
I just finished downloading and installing the update;

tynkr said:
I just finished downloading and installing the update;
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Let us know what you think

just got the update myself downloading now.

Got the update this afternoon. Takes a while to download it but so far like the new update. Phone running smooth, no hiccups. Waiting to see what the battery life looks like.
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Rsmin said:
Got the update this afternoon. Takes a while to download it but so far like the new update. Phone running smooth, no hiccups. Waiting to see what the battery life looks like.
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Lollipop?
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Gorduy_Pti4ka said:
Lollipop?
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Yes
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hope someone makes odin files
I hope some wonderful person makes odin files sililar to this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/n900aucucnc2-odin-files-t2838117
This is the neatest thing. I've been able to factory restore my note 3 anytime I want.

Rsmin said:
Yes
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any new additions?

rukin1 said:
any new additions?
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Nothing major. You can go on YouTube and see the changes. Most of them are just design changes. Looks a little lighter if that makes sense? The way the active apps show up is new. More like a carousel. My battery drain seems to have gotten a little worse. Trying to determine if I have a rogue app or its the update. Like it overall.
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