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Nexus 4 - Delayed New Google Play Store?

Hey guys,
Had my nexus a few months now and loving it.
Also have a HTC One X+ as my work phone.
Today I went to update an app on the HTC One and it received the new Google Play store?
I would have thought that the nexus 4 would have been the first phone to receive this update.
Anyone else have it (officially)? I'm in Australia, but I wouldn't think that it matters since the One X+ received it?
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ASavva said:
Hey guys,
Had my nexus a few months now and loving it.
Also have a HTC One X+ as my work phone.
Today I went to update an app on the HTC One and it received the new Google Play store?
I would have thought that the nexus 4 would have been the first phone to receive this update.
Anyone else have it (officially)? I'm in Australia, but I wouldn't think that it matters since the One X+ received it?
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Hmm my Nexus 4 just got updated to new Play Store as well. Not sure if the fact it is CM10.1 affects it or not.... Singapore here anyway...

I'm also in Australian and just checked my N4 after your post to find I got the google play update today also. Have been waiting ages for that.

Yeah? I just thought that it was strange that Google didn't update their own devices before others.
Although it could just be a whole play store update regardless of device manufacturer.
P.s- I personally think that it looks like a bit of a downgrade? Very plain
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I got my update yesterday and I can't get rid of it if I install the update it just reinstalls itself.
Google have taken all the bad from the old version and enhanced it, it's now 'super' jerky instead of a little. Then all the good from the old version has been thrown out and replaced with giant icons letting you see only 4-6 apps at a time. Google never learn.
Hold on to the older version for as long as you can.

What version yall have?
NEXUS⁴

casonswag said:
What version yall have?
NEXUS⁴
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4.0.27
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Exodian said:
4.0.27
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Oh that been released automatically on my n4
NEXUS⁴

I personally enjoy the new look. It's smoother and looks cleaner. The previous look was way too busy.
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I have a feeling that we might see a revert back to the old (good) play store when this is dispersed in majority
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got updated after a reboot

ASavva said:
I have a feeling that we might see a revert back to the old (good) play store when this is dispersed in majority
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Google would never do that. If there are issues they will fix them and continue rolling it out. Play Store updates can take a long time to roll out and seemingly random (not based on hardware being used).

bozzykid said:
Google would never do that. If there are issues they will fix them and continue rolling it out. Play Store updates can take a long time to roll out and seemingly random (not based on hardware being used).
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I'm not basing the fact on bugs or issues, just purely on the fact that it looks like a downgrade compared to the old one (old now).
The old one looked very nice, mature and pleasant on the eyes.
This new one looks like its been made for (possibly by) pre-schoolers. So simple and the complete opposite of intriguing.
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I think the play store is one of things that just gets sent out for update, I don't think the nexus has any priority over other device when it comes to it.

Is this the new Google play store you all talking about? If so then I've had this for over a two weeks.
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ASavva said:
Hey guys,
Had my nexus a few months now and loving it.
Also have a HTC One X+ as my work phone.
Today I went to update an app on the HTC One and it received the new Google Play store?
I would have thought that the nexus 4 would have been the first phone to receive this update.
Anyone else have it (officially)? I'm in Australia, but I wouldn't think that it matters since the One X+ received it?
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You talking about One X+.. My friend has last year's Xperia S and he got an update around 2 weeks back. Whereas I got mine 2 days back.

filthykid said:
You talking about One X+.. My friend has last year's Xperia S and he got an update around 2 weeks back. Whereas I got mine 2 days back.
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Got my update on 4/9

Nexus gets Android updates first not Play updates. With 1.5 million activations per day and all those devices carrying a Play Store, imagine how many
devices Google needs to update.
To reduce load on their servers, they update devices in batches.

ASavva said:
I'm not basing the fact on bugs or issues, just purely on the fact that it looks like a downgrade compared to the old one (old now).
The old one looked very nice, mature and pleasant on the eyes.
This new one looks like its been made for (possibly by) pre-schoolers. So simple and the complete opposite of intriguing.
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Hit the nail on the head i wonder why Google even rolled an update to Play. It looked far more sexy earlier making you want to click on featured apps. The new one sucks imo.
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The new play store looks like poo lol
Also it looks an awful lot like iTunes Store.
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Google Edition Android 4.3 Discussion

4.3 leaked for the nexus 4:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/18/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
Google press conference scheduled for July 24th:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/17/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
So it appears 4.3 will be officially released on the 24th.
I would give a big +1 to Google if the Google Edition devices revieced that on the release day.
When do you think we will get the update? Thoughts and opinions.

The Project said:
When do you think we will get the update? Thoughts and opinions.
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I thought Google said that updates for the GE devices (S4 and One) would be handled by Samsung and HTC respectively?

you_eeeeeediot said:
I thought Google said that updates for the GE devices (S4 and One) would be handled by Samsung and HTC respectively?
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Samsung and HTC are in charge of the updates. Hopefully we get 4.3 the same day as the Nexus devices since there have been leaks of the S4 and One running 4.3 :fingers-crossed:

My prediction
7/24 nexus 7 version 2 with 4.3 announced
7/24 4.3 releases for Nexus 4 and OG n7
sometime before 8/15 GE gets it

^^ i dont remember google releasing an OS on the day of its announcement

IINexusII said:
^^ i dont remember google releasing an OS on the day of its announcement
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Nexus devices gets updates the day of the announcement...
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killman2659 said:
Samsung and HTC are in charge of the updates. Hopefully we get 4.3 the same day as the Nexus devices since there have been leaks of the S4 and One running 4.3 :fingers-crossed:
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I don't think anyone knows for sure...
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The Project said:
Nexus devices gets updates the day of the announcement...
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nope they dont, usually in a few days/weeks

IINexusII said:
nope they dont, usually in a few days/weeks
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This simply isn't true...but I'm not going to waste time arguing with you.
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The Project said:
This simply isn't true...but I'm not going to waste time arguing with you.
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Most of the time they roll it out in 2-3 days.

The Project said:
This simply isn't true...but I'm not going to waste time arguing with you.
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Doesn't google usually announce a device with a new android version (e.g. Nexus 4 / 4.2) - then roll out the updates when the device ships (a couple weeks later)
I can't exactly recall how exactly it goes down, it's been awhile

Aerys said:
Most of the time they roll it out in 2-3 days.
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But what I'm saying is that they "get the update" sure ota roll outs don't start until a couple days after...
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bbedward said:
Doesn't google usually announce a device with a new android version (e.g. Nexus 4 / 4.2) - then roll out the updates when the device ships (a couple weeks later)
I can't exactly recall how exactly it goes down, it's been awhile
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Some people are already beginning to receive the nexus 4 with 4.3 on it... Its going to roll out very soon.
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Ha..any thread titled "discussion" round here may as well just be called "come here for an argument about something ".

DJW6927 said:
Ha..any thread titled "discussion" round here may as well just be called "come here for an argument about something ".
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Seeing your sig with the HD2 brought tears to my eyes. I do believe the HD2 is the only phone I'll ever miss.

DJW6927 said:
Ha..any thread titled "discussion" round here may as well just be called "come here for an argument about something ".
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Better having a discussion thread than having all these comments in a ROM thread
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The Project said:
This simply isn't true...but I'm not going to waste time arguing with you.
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This simply isn't true..if you remember Google announced ICS and it was awhile before that rolled out and source was released. Then with jellybean it was about a week or two before things were updated to that. And then again with 4.2 they waited until they released the nexus 4. So most of the time after Google announces a new OS version they don't release it a couple days after.
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Look at the times on shown on the clock in the screenshots on the play store. The nexus 4 and seven showed 4:20 when introduced on the play store.They were 4.2 devices. The GE One and S4 show 4:30, probably meaning they are 4.3 devices.
The nexus 4 now shows 4:23 on the primary product image. There is a shot of google now showing a time of 12:33 and weather for san francisco. It's also notable because it shows an HSPA icon and a nearly empty battery. All other screens do not show a data icon and show a full battery. The photo shown in the banner on the devices page shows a time of 12:45.
https://play.google.com/store/devices
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_one
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb_black_promo

ipfreelytech said:
Look at the times on shown on the clock in the screenshots on the play store. The nexus 4 and seven showed 4:20 when introduced on the play store.They were 4.2 devices. The GE One and S4 show 4:30, probably meaning they are 4.3 devices.
The nexus 4 now shows 4:23 on the primary product image. There is a shot of google now showing a time of 12:33 and weather for san francisco. It's also notable because it shows an HSPA icon and a nearly empty battery. All other screens do not show a data icon and show a full battery. The photo shown in the banner on the devices page shows a time of 12:45.
https://play.google.com/store/devices
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_one
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb_black_promo
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?
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ipfreelytech said:
The nexus 4 now shows 4:23 on the primary product image. There is a shot of google now showing a time of 12:33 and weather for san francisco. It's also notable because it shows an HSPA icon and a nearly empty battery. All other screens do not show a data icon and show a full battery. The photo shown in the banner on the devices page shows a time of 12:45.
https://play.google.com/store/devices
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_one
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb_black_promo
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Gadzooks!
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Now that 4.4 is out how long do you think it will be till we get it?

Or do you think we will have to wait for custom roms?

GiZiM said:
Or do you think we will have to wait for custom roms?
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until someone compiled the build for the device

LastStandingDroid said:
until someone compiled the build for the device
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Safe to assume that we would most likely lose the Touchwiz stuff and S-Pen features? Pretty much go stock 4.4?

some of the under-the-hood improvements in 4.4 are pretty interesting/exciting.
but Samsung is gonna take ages.. probably
(I only need the Spen...)

wilflare said:
some of the under-the-hood improvements in 4.4 are pretty interesting/exciting.
but Samsung is gonna take ages.. probably
(I only need the Spen...)
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I think the Note 2 people are still waiting for 4.3 ...... So I think we'll have a long wait unless you go custom.

Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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maidangisme said:
Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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Not really fair to be honest. Every Samsung device I've had got at least 1 major update within a few months of its release. It's the the older devices, ie note 2, s3 that will wait ages or not get it. The S4 + Note 3 will get kit kat by January if history repeats. Also in the past Samsung have denied updates to older devices due to hardware limits, Google are claiming kit kat can run happy on 512mb Ram so who knows, maybe old devices might just get a break (pun intended, sorry )
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maidangisme said:
Until Note 5 release, Samsung after sale service is horrible. Don't dream about you will get KitKat within a year.
-Kitkat will be on S5 or Note 4.
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This.
As always, samsung is super slow with updates, so don't bother in at least 6 or 7 months, and even with that, the note line is never the first one, so probably S4 and S5 will get 4.4 2 or 3 months before the note.

Saw someone quote a samsung rep tweet about them being more concerned about getting most of the older devices to 4.3 first. And about note 3 having to wait at least 2 months for 4.4
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on other news, HTC pledges to get 4.4 out to its HTC One in 90 days, Google Play Edition, in 15 days...
would be nice if Samsung could make and keep to a similar commitment

This is one thing, coming from iOS which is absolutely mind blowing how Samsung doesn't give a rats ass about being up to date. Why own a Android device that runs old software 1 month after buying it and not be allowed to update it.
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i dont think its going to be within a month but i ve had all the notes so far. i717 original galaxy note shipped with gingerbread(2.3)
got updated to ice cream sandwhich 4.0.4( i believe) and than got updated to jellybean 4.1.2
note 2 was ics→4.1→4.3 coming in next month
the updates come but they are slow......But we do have a secret weapon... XDA woot woot!
I wish it was faster but to be honest doesnt really matter to me since im just gong to mess with

They did sell a significantly larger amount of Note 3's in a much shorter period than previous Note devices. So who knows? We had 4.3 well before the flagship S4...
As for the N2 (and S3) still lagging behind, that's because they skipped 4.2.
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skibadee said:
...Google are claiming kit kat can run happy on 512mb Ram so who knows, maybe old devices might just get a break (pun intended, sorry )
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yet...G refused to update the gnex to 4.4 it doesnt matter if the new OS version will work on the phone, what matters is do they still wanna support an old phone
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Khizar said:
yet...G refused to update the gnex to 4.4 it doesnt matter if the new OS version will work on the phone, what matters is do they still wanna support an old phone
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To quote Engadget :
Update: There's still no official word on why this is the case, but sources close to the company have pointed the finger at a different hardware issue on the Galaxy Nexus: its Texas Instruments-built chipset. The company is out of the mobile business and as such isn't in a great position to give the support necessary for continuing OS upgrades -- presumably some of those 1,700 employees let go in the shift away from mobile could have helped. Now we'll have to see if the community can pick up where the corporations left off or if this is the end of the road for the Gnex and its other OMAP-based kin like last year's Kindle Fire HD, Nook HD and Droid Bionic.
Seeing as we're talking Samsung devices here, I think we should be ok
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joverclock said:
i dont think its going to be within a month but i ve had all the notes so far. i717 original galaxy note shipped with gingerbread(2.3)
got updated to ice cream sandwhich 4.0.4( i believe) and than got updated to jellybean 4.1.2
note 2 was ics→4.1→4.3 coming in next month
the updates come but they are slow......But we do have a secret weapon... XDA woot woot!
I wish it was faster but to be honest doesnt really matter to me since im just gong to mess with
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The note 2 actually came shipped with 4.1 jb.
I don't really know about the fuzz with updates. It's not like apple pushes em out on a monthly basis, only when needed. Same for Samsung, people should stop whining about fast updates, making them work etc takes a lot of time. If they release it early and there are a few bugs people will whine about that.
If the phone works and it does very smoothly here under 4.3 why do you instantly need an update?
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Could someone (in theory) create a stock google 4.4 rom for our Note 3?
I know stuff like eye detection and the S-Pen and god knows what else wouldn't work..

AOSP roms won't be out for a while until Samsung gives the community the binary drivers.
Samsung are slow at doing, only in Oct did they release the binaries for S4 6 months after release.
In theory you can download 4.4 and cook your own rom but without drivers from Samsung it won't be stable or certain hardware will not work at all.
If you want the latest and greatest Andriod then you should have brought a Nexus phone.
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Kit katt for note 3

Does anyone know when Verizon going to push the new kit katt 4.4 update out for the galaxy note 3??

monkeyjjk said:
Does anyone know when Verizon going to push the new kit katt 4.4 update out??
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Nope. Anytime between now and christmas. More times than not, we don't know what's happening until it's actually happening. Occasionally we will know if a leak happens to get out, but that is happening less and less frequently.
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kk: no real changes
monkeyjjk said:
Does anyone know when Verizon going to push the new kit katt 4.4 update out for the galaxy note 3??
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i've used kk on my other phone and frankly it is nothing really different

LeftyGR said:
Nope. Anytime between now and christmas. More times than not, we don't know what's happening until it's actually happening. Occasionally we will know if a leak happens to get out, but that is happening less and less frequently.
♢NoteIII♢
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It's not?
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Yeah the differences are minor. It's out for some note 3s already check it out on YouTube
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I think Google has focused mainly on performance and stability in the Kitkat and i have read the Kitkat users comments and they said...Performance is improved on kitkat, more RAM availability, better battery backup and the ROM is significantly faster than Jelly Bean...

A friend of mine who's brothers sisters nephew works at Verizon said it will be on on January 27th......
We will know when we get it
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We get a new note every year so I would not hold your breath on getting an update before you get your new note
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Cm11 kit kat was a huge improvement on my original droid razr. Ram management was awesome compared to stock. I hope samsung gets it right and it's not bogged down like 4.3. I've seen my note using 2.2 out of the 2.4 gb or ram available for no reason other than samsung apps running in the background. I know I shouldn't be too picky about it but thats also why I bought a phone with 3gb of ram so it would be a non issue.

KitKat has started release in Poland via Kies and official source code available now for developers. May be just around the corner. But we will just have to wait and see as usual.
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News about our Lollipop Update

http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...s-devices-to-get-their-hands-on-it-soon-28574
Just thought I would post that as this site claims that AT&T is rolling out the update soon. I haven't heard of this site though so I don't know if its credible. Just something I came across today that gives us some hope

Ive read from numerous sources over the past few months. The update always seems to be 'coming soon'. At some point, I think there was an official release from ATT saying early 2015 (But i don't have a source). Anyways, ill have to see it to believe it. Spring is rollin gout 5.1 Today on the Nexus 6...We just need 5.0 lol.
http://support.sprint.com/support/a..._Google_Nexus_6/WServiceAdvisory_542_GKB80765

i verify the sammobile site for the update and the page of the model sm-n900a are missing soo couldbe the update roll out soon
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I just hope we get this soon! I'm tired of our Note 3 variant always being the worst out of the bunch especially with things like a locked bootloader.

iblakejames said:
I just hope we get this soon! I'm tired of our Note 3 variant always being the worst out of the bunch especially with things like a locked bootloader.
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It's not the worst. Even their latest flagship S series (since S6 isn't OFFICIALLY out yet) hasn't gotten it. Even the M8 hasn't gotten it.

Sam Mobile
It is odd that the site no longer has any firmware for our device. Just last week they still showed 4.3 as our stock firmware.

iblakejames said:
http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...s-devices-to-get-their-hands-on-it-soon-28574
Just thought I would post that as this site claims that AT&T is rolling out the update soon. I haven't heard of this site though so I don't know if its credible. Just something I came across today that gives us some hope
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"with the Galaxy Note 3 likely to receive the update ahead of the current Note 4 and Note Edge."
Translation:
Maybe they'll start rolling 5.0 out before the end of the summer. 5.1? Probably not in 2015. And by then a real bug-fixed newer version will be out. (That big pile out behind AT&T is the pile of "go backwards fast" pills they each take every morning.)
But for me? I hate Material Disgust, my phone works just fine with 4.4.2, Towel Root and SafeStrap, and I'm in no hurry to maybe update to 5 with no way to get back to 4 if I don't like 5. I'd rather someone fix the Note 4 port - that's a nice ROM.

I didn't say it was the worst against other devices, it's the worst out of all Note 3 variants.

AT&T Note 3 Lollipop Update OTA Today
I just finished downloading and installing the update;

tynkr said:
I just finished downloading and installing the update;
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Let us know what you think

just got the update myself downloading now.

Got the update this afternoon. Takes a while to download it but so far like the new update. Phone running smooth, no hiccups. Waiting to see what the battery life looks like.
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Rsmin said:
Got the update this afternoon. Takes a while to download it but so far like the new update. Phone running smooth, no hiccups. Waiting to see what the battery life looks like.
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Lollipop?
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Gorduy_Pti4ka said:
Lollipop?
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Yes
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hope someone makes odin files
I hope some wonderful person makes odin files sililar to this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/n900aucucnc2-odin-files-t2838117
This is the neatest thing. I've been able to factory restore my note 3 anytime I want.

Rsmin said:
Yes
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any new additions?

rukin1 said:
any new additions?
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Nothing major. You can go on YouTube and see the changes. Most of them are just design changes. Looks a little lighter if that makes sense? The way the active apps show up is new. More like a carousel. My battery drain seems to have gotten a little worse. Trying to determine if I have a rogue app or its the update. Like it overall.
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