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Free ram

Greetings again ,
After reboot and all my things loaded i have 150-160mb free ram all the time , do you think is ok ?
I think the phone has 384 MB RAM .
Please share your opinion
Thanks
Vatis

Yes. In the world of android.. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Does sound about average. the x10 does have 384 ram although apparently it can only use 256 ram because of limitations of android 1.6!!
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Thanks for your replies
Vatis

im_iceman said:
Yes. In the world of android.. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Agreed!
Dont need to worry about RAM on android smartphones. Android system takes care of how to utilize RAM.

I remember immediately after root, I had 202MB free immediately after startup, but for some reason, now it's around 160...Anyone know how to permanently kill apps from starting up?

@chris knows... please read the posts prior to yours.. you don't need to kill stuff.

im_iceman said:
@chris knows... please read the posts prior to yours.. you don't need to kill stuff.
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I read that, but figured removing apps that autostart would save battery. Or is the power consumed negligible, and I shouldn't worry about it?

chris_knows said:
I read that, but figured removing apps that autostart would save battery. Or is the power consumed negligible, and I shouldn't worry about it?
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The apps are in idle state.
Well, most of them anyway so they won't use cpu which means battery is not used either.
Only services are running.
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For some reason, my phone got only around 30MB of free RAM after using it for 5-10 mins since startup. I dont use any task manager, and the only program that I use to stop startup apps is Startup Auditor and I only disable Moxier Mail at startup. My phone is not rooted. Is it normal? Cuz comparing my free RAM to you guys, I just feel a HUGE difference here
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I only have 34Mb free
As somebody said before ... free ram = wasted ram.

Memory is full... Need help.

Hi
I just had an issue of the internal memory is getting full even if I already had the applications and games installed in the memory card
But I wonder if there are any way or tips to optimize the RAM and get as much space as possible ?
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Not much besides returning it and complaining the the 500.00+ phone you paid for came with 3.00 worth of storage. Im being generous saying the internal memory is 3.00 its more like 2.00
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But there should be away to optimize the RAM coz its totally an clear for the internal memory to get full fast even if I just had only few apps installed. My Iphone have more apps and games installed and I never had an issue with memory
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yo_yousef80 said:
Hi
I just had an issue of the internal memory is getting full even if I already had the applications and games installed in the memory card
But I wonder if there are any way or tips to optimize the RAM and get as much space as possible ?
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Yes there are many ways. Easiest and fastest download the app: "app to sd" from market and u can move most apps to sd card.
Try that and let me know
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Plz do return ur phone. U donno notjing about tech. And mobile phones. Go with ur apple ripppp offf buddy
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I really love this phone but I cant install more apps.. And really iphone is a great mobile. Sure the specifications are not much but I love the iOS updates ( I have used previously iphone 2g for the last three years with no complains)
I dont want to return the mobile coz I love old games ( neogeo , mame...) but I need help in installing more apps.
Cheers
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I will try it
Thanks
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Flame the noob, shame on you You don't know jack until someone points you in the right direction. Sure he should have searched a little, but still.
Dude, you got good advice on the apps2sd. The real memory improvements are after you pluck up the courage to root your device, but it's pretty easy. Follow the other posts on same. Then you can check out Titanium Backup from the market, or there is another command you can run if you install the Android Development Kit but it's more techy. Stick to Titanium, it moves most of the game to SD, leaving <1Mb for each. I have loads of games installed & have 150Mb free.
Let us know how you get on...

Thank you guys. I just tried it and it freed around 120MB
I really dont know much about the android and how to handle it properly but really you all are giving a great help and I appreciate it very much
Once again thank you very much
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Rixter757 said:
Flame the noob, shame on you You don't know jack until someone points you in the right direction. Sure he should have searched a little, but still.
Dude, you got good advice on the apps2sd. The real memory improvements are after you pluck up the courage to root your device, but it's pretty easy. Follow the other posts on same. Then you can check out Titanium Backup from the market, or there is another command you can run if you install the Android Development Kit but it's more techy. Stick to Titanium, it moves most of the game to SD, leaving <1Mb for each. I have loads of games installed & have 150Mb free.
Let us know how you get on...
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+1
ignore the angry Canadian

yo_yousef80 said:
Thank you guys. I just tried it and it freed around 120MB
I really dont know much about the android and how to handle it properly but really you all are giving a great help and I appreciate it very much
Once again thank you very much
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If you learn how to use adb, you can try the command " pm setInstallLocation 2 ", this will force more apps to install to the SD Card and free up even more space

What i can delete on my internal storage? Where are the rings, Demopictures...? I us apps2sd and i have only ~100 MB free. What is adb and how i us it?
An Ex-iPhone User ;-)
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I'm not flaming or anything I just want to enlighten the OP.
Ram is not what you are referring to. What you are referring to is the internal storage.
Internal storage = Computer hard drive
Ram is where processes are being run atm. every time you turn off the phone the ram is cleared.
Now like many have said you can use adb and setinstalllocation2. What this will do is install all the applications on your memory card.

German-Guy said:
What i can delete on my internal storage? Where are the rings, Demopictures...? I us apps2sd and i have only ~100 MB free. What is adb and how i us it?
An Ex-iPhone User ;-)
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Follow this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089282
I was in exact same position as you, coming from Iphone, I did this and all is good.
Ignore the uber nerds on here that give you sh!t. There are loads of nice, helpful people on here and it is a great place, but a few bad apples will continually want to put people asking questions down.

Hi
Thanks for your help and sure I face a couple if issue in my xperia play but like u said I came from iphone background and also like u said there are lots of helpful people here that help me alot
Thank you all for the help and I just startd to understand my special phone
Cheers
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Red_Kop said:
Follow this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089282
I was in exact same position as you, coming from Iphone, I did this and all is good.
Ignore the uber nerds on here that give you sh!t. There are loads of nice, helpful people on here and it is a great place, but a few bad apples will continually want to put people asking questions down.
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I agree wholeheartedly, but this is, so to say, XDA's stance on the matter:

yo_yousef80 said:
Hi
Thanks for your help and sure I face a couple if issue in my xperia play but like u said I came from iphone background and also like u said there are lots of helpful people here that help me alot
Thank you all for the help and I just startd to understand my special phone
Cheers
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First of all check all the apps are on stock apps2sd. Go to settings/applications/manage applications then on the top click SD Card. It will then bring up a list of all the apps that are stock apps2sd conpatable and if theres a tick it means there already on. If no tick click the app then click "Move to SD". Instant more space.
Second uninstall the apps you use least.
Third clear your browser cache. Go to settings/applications/manage applications then scroll till you see Browser click then "Clear Cache"
Forth and finally I would root the phone and uninstall some stock stuff you won't use.
Done.

Unless you're running 2.3.3

DeadlyDazza said:
Unless you're running 2.3.3
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You can still do the first 3

DeadlyDazza said:
Unless you're running 2.3.3
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or unless you got verizons play no root as of yet

Amazing tip for RAM freeing (Requires ROOT)

Once ur device is Rooted, install system tuner pro, and disable some of the apps u have installed from play store, disable them from boot up, and use Ram booster pro when ever Ram get Full...
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Thank you for this.
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Hi,
But why do you want more free RAM? What's the point to having more free RAM?
With Android it is useless... You are happy with 500 Mb free RAM? Well, and about the multitasking?
You think your SIII will be faster, smoother or anything else with more free RAM? This is just the opposite
These kind of threads are....

More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
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Seriously you were just in the thread that discussed why more free RAM IS NOT BETTER. stop spreading ridiculous threads of misinformation please and thanks.

How can free Ram not be better??
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shaneel1491 said:
How can free Ram not be better??
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Google "how RAM management works in android"

If u do alot multitasking u should not have much free ram becuz all the apps running in backround. If u close backround apps to free some ram that means u just kill the ongoing multitasking ur phone is doing and next time u go back to ur previous app it has to be started again so it actually slowsdown ur phone when ur system actually needs more ram it kills the apps by it self... so no need for that much free ram :/
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But before, I used a Turbo downloader and every time I left the app and came back the download had failed, nw none of the apps are doing this any more...
This is just my way of being more efficient... If it doesn't work 4 u then that's fine, but it is awesome 4 me
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...

Free RAM on android systems is wasted ram.
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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Ok, and...?
Android doesn't work like your computer (with Windows I presume) it's the opposite
You "would need lots of free RAM", it's for you not that the system needs
You have 150 apps with 100 mb of free RAM and now 380 mb of free RAM with you "tip", other than number of free RAM you see in System Tuner, What has changed???
Just the apps you use regularly/often are killed and when you open them they put so much time after like a reboot because they are not kept in memory...

viking37 said:
Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:

LiquidNarwhal said:
Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:
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Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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nodstuff said:
Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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Hi,
Ah ah ah I agree with you LOL!
I remember the thread about the CPU temp... , yes here it's the same...
A thread about RAM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802932 and there are others in this style

nodstuff said:
Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day

LET ANDROID MANAGE HER MEMORY
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Have a nice day LOL...

watsa said:
There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day
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I love a good quote!
Its so true though.
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When browsing the web and playing games on the S3 you'll often find a crash. This is because the device has low memory. Deleting apps that use this resource will help by not wasting the memory ie the RAM.
I think its fair to say that the S3 demonstrates that low ram is a reality. I wish people would stop trying to defend the phone by saying low RAM is wasted. Get over it. It is real. The S3 cannot multitask like the S2 because the ROM is packed full of ****e running which is using up the RAM.
Thanks to the OP for posting this.

and aside from what many people have said on how memory works in android,
take a look at settings > application manager > running > then click the bottom "show cached processes"
for those who like to use 3rd party memory managers they will included these cached processes in killing.
they may kill unnecessary processes but along with it those apps that you always use.
now after killing those cached processes, you will see the system caching a new list of apps and many of them are not the ones you use.
thus memory managers/task killers are just spending cpu cycles in turn battery power killing tasks/apps that you always use and when the system detects the free memory it will load apps into cache and usually those apps aren't the one you use.
thus kills the purpose of those task killers/memory managers of freeing memory since the system will just load apps into memory and cache them.

[Q] how to increase ram of lg e400

hey some one told me that he increased the ram of his mobile phone by something named swapping so i want to know how to use swapping??

omarrm1999 said:
hey some one told me that he increased the ram of his mobile phone by something named swapping so i want to know how to use swapping??
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I don't say increase, but I know methods to make free ram
Use tiny gapps
Uninstall some native( unnecessary) apk's

Hey bro use roehsoft ram expander for increasing ram as it swaps memory as it is a paid app on google play
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Is this normal RAM usage?

Hello,
I just got my T-Mobile G2 a couple of days ago. I don't have a lot of experience yet but I'm curious if this is the normal RAM usage vs availability. If so do you have any problems running high end games, apps, etc? I am presently on 4.4.2. I have used Titanium Backup to freeze a lot of system apps. This just seems like it could be an issue. I also use Greenify to hibernate some apps as well. Any thoughts on this?
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I would love to get an expert answer on this. I recently changed it PAC Man Rom and now it appears I have even less available memory. I'm not noticing any lag or anything but it just bugs me. I added up everything cached and running and it totalled like 364mb not even half a gig of ram. This phone has 2GB of ram. So I dunno just seems weird to me. I guess as long as it's not all laggy then that's what matters.
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Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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What good is the RAM if you don't use it?

XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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I guess my confusion is what happens if I've got 400 mb of ram and I go to play GTA San Andreas... Lol. Will it pull it off? Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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Yeah, the more RAM used the better. I'm using PA3.99RC2 with a kernel (I forget where I got it; just says d800 custom 5 cm) that doesn't use enough RAM. I always have 700-800MB free. I don't know what sysctl changes I can make to increase RAM use. I hope my phone isn't using a swap on its slow mobile phone NAND .

You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.

coowkeee said:
You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.
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I have Greenify. But nevertheless I played Riptide GP2 earlier with full graphics. Smooth as butter. Good enough for me. :thumbup:
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