Database Users

[Q] How much internal storage?

I know it says 8gb, but can someone tell me exactally how much internal sd card space there is and how much space for apps /data. Thanks this is important so please answer if ur sure

It's 8Gb for apps/system/rom and comes with a 8Gb sdcard for music/photos/videos/your stuff, so -----> 8Gb + 8Gb. There's no need for app2sd in this phone.
Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App

dangpzanco said:
It's 8Gb for apps/system/rom and comes with a 8Gb sdcard for music/photos/videos/your stuff, so -----> 8Gb + 8Gb. There's no need for app2sd in this phone.
Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ite thanks mate but i dont mean to be annoying but can yiu say exactaly how much available space there is for apps e.g 1.1gigs & 6.5gigs internal sd, sorry :/

approximately 6,3 Gb free
all this space is for apps and system and cannot be used for the stuff
(indeed there is a trick for root users that want to use internal storage for user data, here)

Ah okay, im kinda put off by this phone the more i find out. lol would you recomend getting it? Also do you think its better than this phone... http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8800_ideos_x5-3596.php
Thanks man youre a great help!

Big NOTE: If you ever want to run a Custom Firmware (Like not using Motorolas Default Android) .. or want to update by urself (For example Run Android 2.3 before Motorola updates it (they are really slow)) then you should not get this fone.. this point annoys many people.. so just note that.. since i would never buy a Motorola phone again.

DeadSix17 said:
Big NOTE: If you ever want to run a Custom Firmware (Like not using Motorolas Default Android) .. or want to update by urself (For example Run Android 2.3 before Motorola updates it (they are really slow)) then you should not get this fone.. this point annoys many people.. so just note that.. since i would never buy a Motorola phone again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only reason why I got this phone was because of the QWERTY keyboard. THe HTC Desire Z wasn't out yet and I wasn't too sure of the 'Z' hinge build quality. Also, not X10 Mini Pro cos that is just too damn small. But I am patient, unlike DeadSix17 which already wants to get rid of his phone.

My main things are texting,gaming & videos keyboard is great for texting whats gaming like? Heard theres multitouch issues & 3.7 i fine and has really good pixels

multitouch issues...maybe. But this is a fine device for your needs. Run a ps1 emulator and gaming will be like on a playstation. Texting is splendid and videos is very nice indeed. A really great phone with no support and a big lock on its door.

I've been well impressed with this phone, locked bootloader or not. Shame about the multitouch issue during gaming... hopefully it will get fixed in a later update. It doesn't make gaming impossible - i've managed to complete NOVA without any problems - just a bit frustrating at times.
Still, the best games to play are emulated stuff like SNES and PSX and these run like a charm, especially with a game gripper (google it!)

How bad is the multitouch then? I plan to play gameloft games and worry if they wont play well, also whats the neocore score like ive googled it but only comes up with mm1.

I have question about how to use internal storage? My sd card was full so I moved my music on internal storage because i had 6GB free there, but music apps can only see music files on sdcard. Anybody knows how to make usefull internal momory?

zibizz1 said:
I have question about how to use internal storage? My sd card was full so I moved my music on internal storage because i had 6GB free there, but music apps can only see music files on sdcard. Anybody knows how to make usefull internal momory?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
always learn how to search the threads before you ask a question. the search bar in the forum is very very helpful.
anyway you will find your answer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948887

living without a SD?

yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4

The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)

I personally would not be able to live with SD cards in my life. I will have to end myself soon because Dropbox and Google Drive are taking over.

Oh well...

yumcax said:
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have 32 GB now so and i have 9GB free. but google music is not available in my country (yet). does it stream your music or is it like itunes?

more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?

Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
Sent from my GT540 using xda app-developers app

mohnim said:
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
Sent from my GT540 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
of course you can, just plug the phone into your computer and it gets recognized as a mass storage device...

I think 16GB will be more than sufficient for me. If it isn't than I will just get a USB OTG cable and use the current Micro SD card that I have. I have an adapter that I can plug the SD card into that allows it to be plugged into a USB port. So effectively giving myself access to expandable SD storage
Probably won't need it, but that's my plan.

DonDizzurp said:
more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
eh man i am not complaining

Came from a G2 (with microSD card slot) to a Gnex, I have to say I didn't miss the card even a bit. 16GB is fine since I use Google music for streaming, and that's the majority part of storage. I don't use GNex's camera that much. I have a Canon D550 and there isn't a phone camera that could produce pictures even similar in quality.
You might want to mange your space a little, like deleting unwanted backups, not having a million Titanium backups, but it's manageable.

I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?

mazdarati2 said:
eh man i am not complaining
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo

DonDizzurp said:
what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wtf man what is your problem. You cant stand it that im not as smart as you so you are going to flame on me? dude please, grow up

G405T said:
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
intern is not your SD

I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

mazdarati2 said:
yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!

mazdarati2 said:
intern is not your SD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason I assumed 'sdcard' folder, is because the LG 4X HD, which has both sd and 16GB internal storage places all of your user files in the sdcard directory independent of whether you are using an sdcard. The actual sdcard files are stored in '/sdcard/external_sdcard' which I must admit I found slightly odd.

nschiwy said:
Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i dont think im gonna try out new ROMS. maybe only Pimp My ROM, but thats it

SUer said:
I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes i need to know to use Google Drive and stream apps like that. never used it

[q] app2sd

how to install app2sd??

Mummydroid said:
how to install app2sd??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know I shouldn't, but I cannot help myself. Especially since those lazy mods haven't moved it & nobody has reprimanded & flamed yet, I will just answer by way of question in the fine tradition of smartarses everywhere.
You do know this is a NEXUS, right? There is NO SD-Card. All the storage & app space is drawn from a single pool of memory, right? So, just why would you need Apps2SD on the Nexus 10?

GSLEON3 said:
I know I shouldn't, but I cannot help myself. Especially since those lazy mods haven't moved it & nobody has reprimanded & flamed yet, I will just answer by way of question in the fine tradition of smartarses everywhere.
You do know this is a NEXUS, right? There is NO SD-Card. All the storage & app space is drawn from a single pool of memory, right? So, just why would you need Apps2SD on the Nexus 10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe he's got a OTG microUSB to USB Adapter --> USB SD card reader installed?

[Q] Move to SD Card

I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...

rosse912003 said:
I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.

Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!

Mithrandir007 said:
The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??

Sammath said:
Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great news!! Hopefully these trail blazers will have good luck in their coding.

rosse912003 said:
Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.

Mithrandir007 said:
No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.

rosse912003 said:
Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed, I can understand that you'd feel cheated
Hopefully they release the 32GB soon and maybe you can replace yours with the 32GB version.

I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...

The foldermount app should work now on the galaxy s4! Go to his xda topic where you can get the latest version! Yay

You also have to reinstall apps if you want to update them, since the app will not be scripted to support the bind when installing.

Mykew said:
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't get a move button when I try ... do I need to do something up front?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

that s great but is there a way to exchange the whole sdcard into the extsdcard ??? not just mounting specific folders

kitkat in the uk at last

Kitkat here in the UK at last.
No problems installing.
So far so good, have not noticed much difference yet, but yes it does seem a little smoother.
CNH3 build number like in Germany

I can confirm, I'm in UK also, and I am downloading OTA as we speak!! (slowly)
Funny thing is I checked on KIES and it says no update.

spark001uk said:
I can confirm, I'm in UK also, and I am downloading OTA as we speak!! (slowly)
Funny thing is I checked on KIES and it says no update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I always have been checking Sammobile website everyday ... what pointless and waste of time as its not even on there either.

Just updated after a tediously slow download.
Now up and running 4.4.2 without any problems. Now to give it a day or so and see how it goes I suppose

I'm getting silky smooth operation so far. About time, I paid enough for this unit so the least they can do is iron out the problems!
Ah well, better late than never as the saying goes.!

Yup, installed it now and performance and navigation is dam fast. Not sure about the battery which many have highlighted as an issue so will keep my eyes peeled on his this one for now.

subram said:
Yup, installed it now and performance and navigation is dam fast. Not sure about the battery which many have highlighted as an issue so will keep my eyes peeled on his this one for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
left mine all night after install used about 2 % so seems better. Certainly not a problem at the moment.

..

So I'm going to install this update tomorrow hopefully. Can anyone let me know if they have encountered any issues with YouTube app, I'm positive some people had issies when they installed kitkat not sure what region it was tbh.
Also have yous encountered any other issues at all yet, big or small?
I'm ever so cautious since I got stung pretty badly with the S3 update many months ago which they had to stop thanks to it being a disgrace of an update.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

Geordie Affy said:
So I'm going to install this update tomorrow hopefully. Can anyone let me know if they have encountered any issues with YouTube app, I'm positive some people had issies when they installed kitkat not sure what region it was tbh.
Also have yous encountered any other issues at all yet, big or small?
I'm ever so cautious since I got stung pretty badly with the S3 update many months ago which they had to stop thanks to it being a disgrace of an update.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problems yet, go for it. Utube is fine.
Still problems with sd card access on some apps.
BS player doesn't work, crashes on start.
ES explorer not writing to sd card either.

thomlh said:
No problems yet, go for it. Utube is fine.
Still problems with sd card access on some apps.
BS player doesn't work, crashes on start.
ES explorer not writing to sd card either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah restricted SD card access - We're just going to have to get used to it a guess.
I don't have much apps on my Tablet and I have about 9GB still free on my internal memory so I reckon I'll manage hopefully.

Geordie Affy said:
Yeah restricted SD card access - We're just going to have to get used to it a guess.
I don't have much apps on my Tablet and I have about 9GB still free on my internal memory so I reckon I'll manage hopefully.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just root it
You can get full SD card access and more with root + xposed :good:

22sl22 said:
Just root it
You can get full SD card access and more with root + xposed :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah thats what I'm going to do if it affects me, I think al be alright with space and what not as I dont really have much apps tbh. And any videos and MP3 I want on my tablet can still be transferred onto SD card.

Geordie Affy said:
Yeah thats what I'm going to do if it affects me, I think al be alright with space and what not as I dont really have much apps tbh. And any videos and MP3 I want on my tablet can still be transferred onto SD card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just save things to phone mem use the built in file manager if I need to move anything onto card. My s5 is kitkat and it's the same deal.
3rd party apps have had their sd card permissions removed, stops apps littering the card with rubbish.

spark001uk said:
I just save things to phone mem use the built in file manager if I need to move anything onto card. My s5 is kitkat and it's the same deal.
3rd party apps have had their sd card permissions removed, stops apps littering the card with rubbish.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It depends on the user as well. You and a few others might not need SD card permissions but for someone like me with a lot of heavy games, emulator games like ps1, movies/videos and other large apps, a 32GB micro SD is a blessing
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

22sl22 said:
It depends on the user as well. You and a few others might not need SD card permissions but for someone like me with a lot of heavy games, emulator games like ps1, movies/videos and other large apps, a 32GB micro SD is a blessing
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I have a 64GB SD Card and tbh I only have like 10GB worth of stuff on it at the minute. I don't use my tablet to the level I used to, I still use it a LOT but my main uses are surfing the net and LOADS of YouTube.
Although I'm going on Holiday next month so I'm going to tranfer about 50GB worth of HD documentaries and all sorts ... Love the ability to do that.

spark001uk said:
I just save things to phone mem use the built in file manager if I need to move anything onto card. My s5 is kitkat and it's the same deal.
3rd party apps have had their sd card permissions removed, stops apps littering the card with rubbish.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some developers have written their apps now with SD card access. It is laziness by some that they have not yet.
See Maps Me for an example of how to do it. They were very quick, a great app.

What on earth!! Just finished work so thought I'd download the update and then install ... says its ganna take an 1hr09 to download just 600MB!! Talk about slow.

Geordie Affy said:
What on earth!! Just finished work so thought I'd download the update and then install ... says its ganna take an 1hr09 to download just 600MB!! Talk about slow.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will be, there's thousands of users been waiting forever for it to be released !
In fact, they may well have capped the speed to distribute it fairly. Mine took about an hour.

spark001uk said:
It will be, there's thousands of users been waiting forever for it to be released !
In fact, they may well have capped the speed to distribute it fairly. Mine took about an hour.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aye a guess that does make sense tbf. Tbh it says 44mins left now ... will be done in 30mins a reckon.