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Short version here is that I already have a HD2 and currently playing with the Android builds that are available.
Now I've just been given a Samsung Galaxy S with an upgrade (get it in 2 days) and I must admit as much as I'd like to keep it, there's a part of me that thinks that the HD2 is the better phone, especially as it looks like we are going to have a stable droid build in the near future (devs really are top folk).
So, take the phone built for droid or stick with what I have and hope droid gets perfected on it in the near future?
Opinions welcome
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Short version here is that I already have a HD2 and currently playing with the Android builds that are available.
Now I've just been given a Samsung Galaxy S with an upgrade (get it in 2 days) and I must admit as much as I'd like to keep it, there's a part of me that thinks that the HD2 is the better phone, especially as it looks like we are going to have a stable droid build in the near future (devs really are top folk).
So, take the phone built for droid or stick with what I have and hope droid gets perfected on it in the near future?
Opinions welcome
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It's hard to say. It really depends what OS you favor. If you like WM (as a backup) and Android (albeit buggy and laggy) on the same phone, take the HD2. If you want Android to be the primary OS, take the Galaxy S.
Keep in mind the Android port won't be perfect (at least for a while). For example, the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) port has been going on longer than the HD2 port, and it still has many bugs and features that do not work.
If you really want both devices, why not keep both and alternate phones each week?
I'm personally not ready to switch to Android as a full-time OS on a phone. WM has a lot of tweakability inside and Android still has its time to mature.
See where you are coming from and if I can get away with it may just sneak the samsung away
I've always like WM over the years and love the tweaking abilities with it, I think I'm just a bit tired of it on the HD2 as IMO you still need a stylus when you get past the front end, well I do with my big chubby fingers LOL
Android is nice, had a Nexus One when they first came out but found the camera and a few other things lacking so sold it pretty quick.
To many toys and not enough time I suppose LOL
Well, atm it's very hard to say. As I own a HD2 and like it still very much, I'm not planning to buy a new toy within the next, let's say 3 months. After that I will definitely buy an Android-phone because WP7 sucks already D) and the HD2 will stay THE WM6.5.x-phone - maybe forever.
If I had to buy an Android-phone tomorrow, I'd buy a Galaxy S (Pro) - but I think I would sell it again for the next Android-flagship by HTC, what ever it will be.
if you like to have a faster gpu than go for the galaxy S because it has the fastest gpu units of all smartphones today
Personally I am biased towards android. If it werent for the 4.3 inch display of the hd2 I would have dumped it long ago. Windows mobile is so mature that At the end of this year windows phone 7 is coming out. People have all but stopped developing stuff for it. It still has a great community in xda but frankly windows mobile interface sucks. Maybe I'm a dunce but I could never find proper twitter widgets.
Android isnt perfect on the hd2 and may never be. But lets see I think bluetooth and the camcorder mode doesnt work. Also call quality may be lacking. All things I Can deal with.
Personally Ive seen the samsung captivate which I believe is the At&t variant and I love it. Save yourself and stick which the phone thats native android.
I played with AT&T's version at the store. I don't like Samsung's UI much, but the screen rocks. I didn't notice the screen size difference much.
Deal breaker for me is actually the charging port. It's microUSB with a slick slide cover, BUT THEY PUT IT ON THE TOP OF THE PHONE!!! What engineer thought that was a good idea?
If the Android port weren't going so well and if weren't for the dumb port placement, I'd be on the Galaxy S series now.
hd2 vs galaxy s
hi all, just to give my input on the subject...
First of all HD2 is the only device that is capable of running both WM and Android.
I got the galaxy for my wife, and am not impressed, here is why:
1. build quality sucks, it feels flimzy, all plastic with no substance.
2. doesn't sink with Samsung software
3. Samsung support sucks.
4. android is not the latest build (apparently it will get upgraded)
5. with original ROM it is slow and chunky.
6. GPS has issues.
7. UI looks like certain fruty devices available in black or white...
I have HD2 with many twins, Energy ROM, and also running Android as a second boot.
Android runs smooth with minor issues: no GPS, BT,and not very loud. Camcorder works fine with third party app. so does flashlight. For those worring about Windows needing a stylus, well how often do you see the original UI? plus what version r u running? HD2 is in my opinion the best of both worlds and the best phone to by. it is definitely for people with some comp knoledge rather than the push the button mentality.
I'm sticking with winmo until WP7 matures a little.
Yes WinMo is approaching the end of its cycle, but since it is, most anything you could think you want is available.
Just installed a PSX emulator and am playing Final Fantasy 7 right now.
I can watch just about any type of video.
More music options than I can count.
I guess for me, the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality applies.
well after 24hrs with the Galaxy, the HD2 is going
Tough choice as I love playing with these new droid builds coming out, they really are great but after spending the day with a full blown droid phone, god it's fast, seems a lot faster than the Nexus One I had, weird!
No issues with satnav for me and UI suits me fine.
I'll be sad to finally say goodbye to WM, it's been a gadget lovers delight over the years
Thanks for the input all
If its an upgrade why cant you have both?
Ive never had to give back my old phone when I got an upgrade.......
I was looking forward to having a shiny new android beast to sit next to my HD2 when the time comes.......you've got me worried now.
If T Mobile think they're gonna take my HD2 away they've got another thing coming.......
LOL, no don't have to give the phone back but would rather sell it than have it sitting in the spare drawer.
Eh, with the HD2 in a month or two I think its Android build will have the same performance as the Nexus One and similar phones. Plus, it will be the only 4.3 inch screen phone on T-mobile with Android.
Yeah, the Galaxy still has a better GPU, but I have never played a single 3D game on my HD2 really. Probably because it has no amazing 3D games but...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7500539#post7500539
Definitely Galaxy S! I Have HD2 for 6 months now and I've already flashed the device like 212109863489458 times (lol) and it' s getting annoying i have to flash my device every 2 weeks because of bugs. I don' t think that' s the case with android + The hummingbird processor beats snapdragon. I've seen benchmarks which shows an unreleased new HTC phone (everybody speculating about dual core snapdragon) saying that it' s a super fast new HTC. And guess what... The Galaxy S even beats that one in benchmarks... Don' t get me wrong I love my [email protected], best phone I' ve ever had to this date, but the combination Hummingbird and android (soon 2.2) is a better choice I think.. Hope this helps.
galaxy s doesnt even have a flash ! lol! gay phone !
Hello there!!. i am doubt on this question too. I have a hd2 from 8 months ago, and ... really, hd2 ROCKS!. but have some inconvenients like battery life, or wm6.5 and that this will not be upgradable to wm7. Given, android runs really fine but the future of this os on my hd2 makes me doubt a little.
So, what about the galaxy S battery life, gps, photo positioning, screens ...?, it will be possible to flash futures ROMS of android like Android 3.0, i´m ready to say good to WM. But for the moment, i know that on my hd2 it will be possible to flash, maybe, all futures androids roms, whatever they are.
Well I decided to sell the Galaxy S, really nice phone but I much prefer being able to pick and choose the android builds and WM roms to play with, if you like that kind of thing, stay with the HD2.
Now that I have setcpu set up on my android build the battery life is very good.
GPS on the galaxy can be a bit iffy, read the forums and you'll see lots of issues, the camera isn't as good as the HD2 and the lack of flash is a definite issue IMO.
The screen is stunning on the galaxy but the HD2 screen size makes up for this.
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galaxy s doesnt even have a flash ! lol! gay phone !
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Don't be so quick to judge a book by its cover.
Camera flash on the HD2 (and other devices) only work up to a certain distance -- then, the flash becomes useless as it is unable to provide enough light to illuminate the surroundings. The HD2's "night mode" is, imo, horrible; my older, cheaper camera phones had better "night mode" pictures. As seen in the photos in the link, the Galaxy S's "night mode" allows it to capture images at long distances, without flash, and the image is decent.
Its camera -- or more accurately, its camcorder-- actually has a slight advantage over the HD2's. Android OS allows the phone to capture HD videos, whereas WM has limitations that prevent the HD2 from recording in HD. I've seen some videos shot by the Galaxy S, and I have to say I'm very impressed.
That´s ok. But now, the QUESTION. Will be the Galaxy S upgradable to android 3.0?? This could be a GOOD FAVOUR POINT for this device, and if it couldnt be, sucks. Anyone know something about this?? my HD2 is right now open to all this supposed SO roms.
What the hell ... hahaha
Hey all
Looking to change from iphone4. Had every iPhone since launch and am just bored of em now
Looking at android phone and the sgs2 caught my eye
However have seen a lot of negativity about it in here and elsewhere
So do you think it's a good move or should I hang on for the HTC sensation (which sounds brilliant)
iPhone user here.
Apps are far better on iOS. You wont find some apps on Android that are on iOS. Thats my only dislike about Android but thats down to the developer. Im missing loads of apps, first direct, sky sports, bbc and so on. You can use the brower for all these wit Flash though
The SGS2 is by far the best Android phone. If your truely bored of iOS then get this, its worth it.
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However have seen a lot of negativity about it in here and elsewhere
Loads on negativity about IPhone all over the net .
Point is that this forum is new and not yet representative of a large number of users .
Personally i thought the SGS 1 was as good as the IPhone 4 though some users preferred the HTc interface but i did not .
You really got to try them and read the reviews on al the phones .
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s2-930907/review
I am not missing any apps that i want .
Have Sky Sports news > BBC >
jje
Hello
I got bored too
I have just done the swap to a SGS2 from a iphone 4(well still have it)
Before the ip4 I was a long time winmo user
there are good and bad points to both phones
ios is slick on ip4 and does its job well...but also so limiting even with jailbreak
I f you love tweaking then get a droid phone thats why I have now bought 1
as for the negatives how many did the ip4 have @ the start
Tbh I think the ui on sgs is poor
Much prefer HTC sense (have messed about with mates)
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Tbh I think the ui on sgs is poor
Much prefer HTC sense (have messed about with mates)
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Got the HTC desire for a while, and now I've got a SGS2, and I really prefer TouchWiz 4.0 over HTC sense. TouchWiz is really good on this phone. HTC Sense, never really liked it.
I've just received my Galaxy S2 today, a bit of an act of faith after the first one, which was IMO at first a very flawed device (a little digging and you can find my previous postings about this).
I've just come from an iPhone 4 myself, via an HTC Incredible S, so I think I can comment on here. To me, the Samsung clearly takes design cues from the iphone, in the design of the icons, the central home button and even the design and some of the features (like the screen shot - home + power)... to me, the SGS2 is like a bastard child of the best android phone and the iphone mixed into one....
IMO this is a good thing. I was bored silly with the iphone, and was sick of how restricted it was, even when Jailbreaked. The iphone 4 is a very nice phone for sure, but really boring to use in the long term (although some like it, and I can see why).
With the SGS2 you get a similar UI, but you also get androids superior functions as well (widgets, live wallpaper, notifications, google integration etc).
As for the SGS2 versus Sense, well TBH I was going to wait for the Sensation, and in the meantime, I made a profit from selling my ip4 and swapping for an Incredible S, and I did so so that I could get a taste of Sense UI. Now, I will say that Sense UI is quite nice, but if I'm being totally honest here, the only things I feel I will miss all that much are the weather and clock widget on Sense and the facebook integration. I do quite like the design of the interface on Sense... and obviously the Sensation is going to have a lot more eye candy again...
Having said all that, there are some things I am not so keen on with Sense. For example, it can at times feel a little "clunky" in places, I am not a fan of the keyboard (I know this can be changed) what with the arrow buttons underneath (not needed IMO), and I just got a feeling that it was slowing the phone down slightly.
Now, when I got the SGS2 I did feel as though I'd probably just dump TWLauncher straight away, but you know what, I think Samsung have really done quite a good job with TW4 to the point where I'm honestly not sure that I can say I prefer Sense any longer. It feels lighter and less bloated, it has some nice touches (task manager, power toggles in the notification, resizing widgets, deleting screens (which you STILL can't do in Sense), folders in the App drawer and so on). Now I'm still not a huge fan of some of the included widgets (but the new calendar widget is superb IMO), and I don't think I'll use the hubs much.
I'm not actually sure whether the Sensation will be able to compete in pure speed and performance terms with the SGS2 which frankly seems to go like a rocket. In fact, the SGS2 seems to fix much of what was wrong with the first phone. I really like it.... BUT... I haven't tested the GPS, yet!
As for the iphone 4 versus the SGS2, once you get over the fact the apps quality isn't quite up there (especially games), you won't look back. Although the iphone 4 feels and looks a more premium product, the Samsung is actually a nicer thing to handle, feels more comfortable in the hand... but other than that, seriously, there seems to be no competition here really, the SGS2 is MUCH better than the iphone 4 really... better camera, MUCH faster, far bigger screen (trust me the iphone 4 looks REALLY tiny compared) and far less restricted.
If this phone lives up to its early promise then I can tell you now that this is one fine phone, and Samsung may have finally delivered the kind of phone everyone knew they could if they put their mind to it... but time will tell
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Tbh I think the ui on sgs is poor
Much prefer HTC sense (have messed about with mates)
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It's really a matter of taste, if you want a perfect Sense experience, then buying this phone wouldn't be a good choice I think
I've never really have experience on Sense (people around me use either iPhone 4 or BB!), but this Touchwiz isn't that bad except for one, no alphabetical sort in grid view on the apps drawer
I've been an iPhone user for 3 years and gone from the 3g to 3gs to the iPhone 4. I have also been an Android user for 1 year, I started with the Desire and upgraded to the SGS1. Despite liking Android a lot, I couldn't really make the switch to being a full time Android user. Mainly becasue I have bought a bunch of really specialized (medical) expensive apps on the iPhone. I dont't mind the iPhone having certain limitations as I have learnt to work around them. Also by also having an Android phone with me, they don't matter.
Like you I have grown tired of the iOS UI, especially the infamous Pop Up Notifications. As a geek I really like Android, trying out custom ROMs, not having any limitations in terms of what apps to install and being able to open web sites with flash are all part of the joy...
Currently I have sold my SGS1 and am waiting for the SGS2 to become available in Slovenia. I dont't think it will full replace my iPhone 4, but it seems it will at least keep me from buying an iPhone 5. A feat Desire couldn't manage to do!
As for the HTC vs Samsung debate. Sense is widely considered the premium Android experience, which I think it also is. But HTC is still using sub par components in its phones: the awful tiny speaker, the bad camera sensor and the worst mics for audio recording. It is for these reasons I won't be buying the Sensation but the SGS2.
Me i prefer Touchwiz and dont like sense .
jje
I'd probably pick Touchwiz over Sense too, also the first SGS imo was as good as the iPhone 4. SGSII is just so gooood....
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the first SGS imo was as good as the iPhone 4.
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It would have been if it hadn't been filled with bugs.
bigmo7 said:
I'd probably pick Touchwiz over Sense too, also the first SGS imo was as good as the iPhone 4. SGSII is just so gooood....
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Gotta disagree with you there mate
Mate has a galaxy s and it's not a patch on iphone4 I'm afraid
I'm not a fan of TW or Sense, I find them both to be very simple almost condesending, like they were built for kids or blind people to use. You cannot change the screen density with them so you have to stick with 240 which I personally dont find appealing.
I much prefer a stock android framework with ADW Ex.
I am really looking forward to some custom ROM's comming out for the SGS2.
I was a WinMo user right from 1.0 to 6.5 and loved every minute of it. After my HD2 I took a jump and tried out Android, and now I'm hooked! WP7 does look very nice, but it needs to be more open before I switch to it.
I have never owned an iphone. I had a gen1 ipod touch and couldn't stand Itunes so this put me off apple for good, plus I don't like their business model.
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Gotta disagree with you there mate
Mate has a galaxy s and it's not a patch on iphone4 I'm afraid
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It's just personal opinion, my mate has a SGS and I have to say without the bugs it had I would easily choose it over the iP4 in terms of software that is, can't stand the way the SGS looks.
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Gotta disagree with you there mate
Mate has a galaxy s and it's not a patch on iphone4 I'm afraid
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What is better on the Iphone ???+
I tested three a few weeks ago over three days .IOS4 SGS 1 not SGS2 and Win 7 on a HTC . Hardly any difference between them all down in my opinion to user choice .
jje
First post here so go easy guys -.-
Though coming from webOS 2 on the Pre 2, then to iPhone 4 with iOS 4, and now to SGSII I'd like to think I've experience the best of Mobile UI's.
And Like you, I was bored on iPhone4, the grid of Icons just didnt cut it out for me and seemed something more akin to fisher price, Loved webOS, though the sub-part hardware and lack of Apps killed it for me.
For me the SGSII is the best of both worlds, the screen is absolutely fantastic and has to be seen to believe, the Applications arent quite iPhone but nonetheless are excellent and I have found a suitable replacement for 95% of the ones I use.
I'm also picky when It comes to butter smooth UI's, and Samsung with the implementation of Touchwiz 4 has nailed It, I'm not sure about other Android phones (This being my first) but Samsung has definately implemented GPU Acceleration into the UI, and It's butter smooth, everywhere, browsing and all, It's what really sold this device to me.
I actually hate Sense, It just looks fugly in my opinion, but to each their own, I applaud Samsung, they've done a good job on Touchwiz, I wanted iPhone style Grid Icons and not the standard App Drawer so It was perfect for me, You'll feel right at home as well with the addition of folders, pages etc
My only real Gripes are the fact It's a tad on the big side, though I have small hands and that It's a dust magnet, either that or I'm OCD which I probably am (I wipe the **** out of my screens, make sure they're speckle free ^^)
SAMOLED Plus, 1.2 GHz Blazing fast Exynos CPU, Quad Core Mali GPU, 1080p Recording, 8MP Back 2MP Front, Gingerbread with Butter Smooth Awesome UI & Customization and It's not hard to see why It's possibly the best phone yet.
Chronicles404 said:
First post here so go easy guys -.-
Though coming from webOS 2 on the Pre 2, then to iPhone 4 with iOS 4, and now to SGSII I'd like to think I've experience the best of Mobile UI's.
And Like you, I was bored on iPhone4, the grid of Icons just didnt cut it out for me and seemed something more akin to fisher price, Loved webOS, though the sub-part hardware and lack of Apps killed it for me.
For me the SGSII is the best of both worlds, the screen is absolutely fantastic and has to be seen to believe, the Applications arent quite iPhone but nonetheless are excellent and I have found a suitable replacement for 95% of the ones I use.
I'm also picky when It comes to butter smooth UI's, and Samsung with the implementation of Touchwiz 4 has nailed It, I'm not sure about other Android phones (This being my first) but Samsung has definately implemented GPU Acceleration into the UI, and It's butter smooth, everywhere, browsing and all, It's what really sold this device to me.
I actually hate Sense, It just looks fugly in my opinion, but to each their own, I applaud Samsung, they've done a good job on Touchwiz, I wanted iPhone style Grid Icons and not the standard App Drawer so It was perfect for me, You'll feel right at home as well with the addition of folders, pages etc
My only real Gripes are the fact It's a tad on the big side, though I have small hands and that It's a dust magnet, either that or I'm OCD which I probably am (I wipe the **** out of my screens, make sure they're speckle free ^^)
SAMOLED Plus, 1.2 GHz Blazing fast Exynos CPU, Quad Core Mali GPU, 1080p Recording, 8MP Back 2MP Front, Gingerbread with Butter Smooth Awesome UI & Customization and It's not hard to see why It's possibly the best phone yet.
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Thank you. Best response yet. This may actually have sold this to me
May have to pop Into town and check one out
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Thank you. Best response yet. This may actually have sold this to me
May have to pop Into town and check one out
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Anytime, and trust me you owe It to yourself
There's quite a few Customizations I've made to the Lock and Home Screen If you don't prefer the actual stock widgets so bear that in Mind, It looks pretty awesome now, mate which still has an iPhone was pretty impressed considering.
Not forgetting there's also the HSPA+ radio, In some areas (And depending on network) expect 4MB+ easily, It's also the thinnest smartphone in Class though using a case makes It to normal thin Slab size, I can't really fault It, the only niggle Is battery Life but then again I've been using it 24/7 and I'm yet to properly cycle the battery though early reports suggest you'll easily get a day's worth.
One of the very big plus points for some users but not all users is the ability to customize Android .You do not have to stick with the defaults themes roms kernels etc etc as you like .
jje
Galaxy S3 Is just ugly , even with amazing specs... i just hate that plastic build quality.
Lets not even mention Touch Wiz ........ Some thing that i would even perfer HTC sense over it...
I have spoken with my friends with Samsung phones and none of them liked Touch Wiz at all... in fact most of them (please excuse their language) said the following things regarding touch wiz
1- its so ugly that you want to throw the phone on the ground
2- I dont understand why samsung like to make their phone UI looks bad
3- I hate touch wiz , every thing in it..,., (with the except of the whether wigit)
4- S2 lock screens makes no sense what so ever.
5 -Why does samsung likes to F%^k Up Google's amazing software?
6- I hated the touch wiz on my s2 so much i switched back to Nexus S(Comment said one and year and six monthes ago)
7- Hardware wise, samsung wins , software wise , samsung sucks s^&t
I just really dont get it personally, why does samsung likes to screw with google 's device by making everything so ugly? I would really considering by S3 but it got touch- wiz and after all my friend's reception on the overlay UI them selves i am now considering GN... what do you guys think?
Should Samsung give user rights to choose stock - ics or their Touch - Wiz overlay?
Sounds like your friends like to complain a lot. Time to get new friends.
I agree the sIII is ugly IMO and won't buy it as I'm sticking with my note.
About touchwiz..well use a different launcher...their free like apex which is awesome
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I think it is actually pretty sexxy. Looks way better than the htc one x, just as sexy as the Evo 4glte.... Yes even with a plastic battery door although I wish it was metal, and just as sexy as the note.... Galaxy nexus.... Not impressive.
But your comments on touchwiz I do agree with. I too dislike touchwiz. The launcher wastes too much screen relistate that's why I dislike it. The stock sms is ugly in my opinion. Easy fix though with apex and gosms. Although I do like samsung alarm app, new calendar app, and memo app.
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I agree the sIII is ugly IMO and won't buy it as I'm sticking with my note.
About touchwiz..well use a different launcher...their free like apex which is awesome
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they are still no thing like stock google os .....
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Galaxy S3 Is just ugly , even with amazing specs... i just hate that plastic build quality.
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I'm seriously getting sick of seeing this complaint about Samsung in general. Why do so many people think that "build quality" and "material selection" mean the same thing? If you don't like a plastic phone, then say so, but don't say the phone has poor build quality unless its true. Sure, I wish Samsung made phones with the same premium materials that are on my Razr, but I'm not claiming poor tolerances just because I prefer carbon kevlar to plastic.
As far as TouchWiz, I don't like the way it looks either, but it really brings some great features to the SGS3. And I have to say, the Nature UX idea is pretty cool, even if its not what I've grown accustomed to with my recent devices. TW sets their phones apart, easy to recognize them as Samsung devices. And it apparently works, I don't think anyone can argue with their sales numbers and repeat customers. Most "regular" people must like it, or at least are not bothered by it, whereas anyone on this site is capable of cleaning up as much of it as they would like.
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I'm seriously getting sick of seeing this complaint about Samsung in general. Why do so many people think that "build quality" and "material selection" mean the same thing? If you don't like a plastic phone, then say so, but don't say the phone has poor build quality unless its true. Sure, I wish Samsung made phones with the same premium materials that are on my Razr, but I'm not claiming poor tolerances just because I prefer carbon kevlar to plastic.
As far as TouchWiz, I don't like the way it looks either, but it really brings some great features to the SGS3. And I have to say, the Nature UX idea is pretty cool, even if its not what I've grown accustomed to with my recent devices. TW sets their phones apart, easy to recognize them as Samsung devices. And it apparently works, I don't think anyone can argue with their sales numbers and repeat customers. Most "regular" people must like it, or at least are not bothered by it, whereas anyone on this site is capable of cleaning up as much of it as they would like.
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Samsung does in deed lack build and design quality when compared to HTC , MOTOROLA , and lets not even mention Nokia
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I'm seriously getting sick of seeing this complaint about Samsung in general. Why do so many people think that "build quality" and "material selection" mean the same thing? If you don't like a plastic phone, then say so, but don't say the phone has poor build quality unless its true. Sure, I wish Samsung made phones with the same premium materials that are on my Razr, but I'm not claiming poor tolerances just because I prefer carbon kevlar to plastic.
As far as TouchWiz, I don't like the way it looks either, but it really brings some great features to the SGS3. And I have to say, the Nature UX idea is pretty cool, even if its not what I've grown accustomed to with my recent devices. TW sets their phones apart, easy to recognize them as Samsung devices. And it apparently works, I don't think anyone can argue with their sales numbers and repeat customers. Most "regular" people must like it, or at least are not bothered by it, whereas anyone on this site is capable of cleaning up as much of it as they would like.
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people did buy them... and as far as all the people i know, most people considers Galaxy Nexus (STOCK ICS) as the best UI andriod device , i hear nothing postive from friends with Samsung Phones that has Touch Wiz on it..... i have friends who would rather trade S2 with my nexus s for just $100 more and the reason is just he said when he saw me device , he thinks his phone's UI is just so ugly
and To be honest , Sense is even better than their "Nature" touch UI....
also... i dont see why they cant atleast offer us an option and i am pretty sure most people would pick stock ICS/Jelly Bean over Touch Wiz
IF they had given me an option to pick stock google ICS/Jellybean i would buy S3 in a heart beat..... and i dont get why they woundt offer it
This is over, use the link in the 2nd to last post.
This seems like a stupid question but I'm going to throw it out anyways.
I've been looking to pick up a newer android phone...and among the best so far are the Nexus 4 (when more stock arrives), the Note 2, and the Optimus G.
This time around, the Nexus 4 has real phone specs...the internals seem absurdly beastly for a handheld and the fact that google and LG are using a not pos camera (damn you galaxy nexus) is making it a strong contender. However, one thing seems to be missing for me, some of the goofy lg/sammie software. I can really live without LTE until ATT starts using band 4...hell I can even live with the 16 gb of internal storage. I already have something being used for music, and most non-TomTom apps aren't that big, so whatever....
but I was wondering if it would be possible to kang qSlide/QuickMemo...something like that or the similar Note2 features in the context of a ROM.
I don't know how tied into the phone's hw/OEM Skin features like that are...I'm not a programmer/engineer/etc .
But since it IS android, I thought it was a worthy question and figured that if it was at all possible, then the more knowledgable people here at XDA would have some insight.
Thanks XD
This phone has LTE.
That would be a great idea!!
Porting LG battery saving software would be great. And even the colour calibration or the RIL optimizations. I hope this can be done.
Hi everybody, excuse my english i'm french
So, i will buy a new smartphone, but i CAN'T decide between these phone, it's hard. I've a basic usage, i use my phone for SMS/call/twitter/facebook/(few) games/musique (with earphone)/(few) photos, and that's all I search a beautiful interface, because I HATE Android stock, it's very empty. So i search a beautiful interface with good features, i also search a very fast phone, and that's all because these 3 phone have an amazing screen/performance etc.
I like the HTC One because i think Sense is good, and i can't stay for the new HTC, but the One will have Sense 6.0 (with ROM custom) ? And the One is old..
I like the G2 for his screen, and his is new
And the Z1 for his camera
So thank you if you could help me, i've 800$ so i can buy any phone, thank you !
Excuse me for my english..
I think you are looking at the wrong phones for what you are describing...LG G2 is horrible until you put a custom ROM on it and the Z1 I don't believe will give you what you are looking for. The HTC One is closer to what u like, but I feel like the processor and RAM are lacking now that we are in 2014. I don't know what phones you can purchase due to location but I think for what you are describing your best options would be:
Moto X
Samsung S4 (European variant)
Samsung Note 3
HTC One
good luck
note 3 or g2 , lg g2 is best phone of 2013 , chck reviews urself , htc one is old now n poor battery , while z1 is kool but its not better than lg g2
thekazzazpv => Really the G2 is horrible ? Why ? Everybody say he is the best phone ever..
Thank you, mmhh for the Galaxy S4 i don't want this phone because i've an S3 and this is the "same" with Touchwiz
Same for the note 3, and he is too large.. I can't buy with import for the Moto X..
pw1nce => For the Note 3 it's Touchwiz (i've already Touchwiz), and i want change.. I note for the G2, thank you, and i agree the One is obsolete now (8 months..)
I own the LG G2 and I love it... what I was saying is that stock it was bloated, cumbersome, almost useless. I am running CM 11 Nightlies and love it! I enjoy changing things regularly and customizing it best to how I use the phone. Your original post led me to believe that you don't want to mess with the phone much just use it stock. The LG G2 is amazing and super fast if you are willing to root and flash it.
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Also you mentioned you don't like stock Android, which most custom ROMs start with. I'm sure if you have knowledge in phone mods or are willing to learn you could find a system you'll like and the LG G2 has a great developer community.
Every stock phone is bloated regardless of mfg. The carrier's add the bloat and are quite adept at adding it for their own personal gain. All three will do what you are asking. Personally I love the g2
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Wait for the new htc one as i guess it should've better battery..
I agree with the g2 it is horrible, skin wise inside but the look of the phone is good.coming from htc sense or touchwiz you wouldnt appreciate g2 unless with a custom rom..
Ive had htc one and swap it with g2 now im back with black htc one with a bigger capacity.64gb despite the fact that it is poor in battery category...now my htc one is already for sale as i am waiting for the new htc one+
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If you buy a phone and use it right out of the box (w/o modification), get the G2.
If you buy a phone and intend to "rip" it apart then you can buy any phone, it just happens those Sammies seem always having huge ROM development at xda.
Note: if you want to mod, prepare to READ and READ and READ before doing anything. Also read ALL the issues that others have.
Hi buddy, i have had the HTC ONE, damn loved that device. The ONE is great for random tasks such as fb, videos etc.. In music its the best in class. I switched to the g2 i really like the g2.
What i miss from htc on.
Sound
Lowlight camera performenc
Build quality
Sense 5.5 my fav android skin, even better than the pure android.
What i dont miss
Buttons, damn thees to buttons were stupid placed
Battery life was horrible on the one
Stupidly slow at charging
Overall the g2 is a faster device, better performer in camera when its in good lightning
The pure android fits better on the g2 i think. One htc one pure android i think its useless, personal opinion htc one without sense is nothing.
Good luck
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I actually have the Xperia Z1 and the camera is... Meh. My brother's phone took a very similar photos and only have 8 MP.
Even without the camera, the xperia Z1 ( at least for me) is a beautiful phone with a lot of issues inside. Some lag with stock rom, touchscreen issue, bad speakers sound...
Tomorrow maybe i will have the LG G2 ( i replaced the Xperia Z1 due to the touchscreen issue, 5 phones replaced and all with the same issue ) and i will tell you if the phone is better or worst than the Z1.
Wait for the new HTC M8(rumored name is the "One+'') to be announced. The new Snapdragon 805 has 4 Krait 450 cores and DX11.1 graphics powered by the new Adreno 420 GPU. Tasty if I do say so myself...
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Koopa777 said:
Wait for the new HTC M8(rumored name is the "One+'') to be announced. The new Snapdragon 805 has 4 Krait 450 cores and DX11.1 graphics powered by the new Adreno 420 GPU. Tasty if I do say so myself...
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Bonjour OP! I agree with what Koopa says. It looks like waiting could be it. However if you need/want a phone right now my advice is buy a phone cor what functionality best suits you. I have the G2. My wife has the HTC One. In my case Im more tech savvy. I like to root, optimize, and tweak as I see fit. The G2 fits as it has the latest/greatest processor etc... The HTC one is a beautiful device but its in my opinion more geared to multimedia users. The sense UI is very socially centered and the audio experience (without headphones) is superb. To me its the perfect phone for those that love media and interactivity of apps with social functions. Sense makes it all tie in nice. Im absolutely jealous of the HTC remote software that has a full program guide for whats on tv. It makes the G2 infrared remote look bad.
All that said do not underestimate those same functions on the G2. It may not have beats audio, but it capable of much better audio playback than the One. The screen is larger on the G2, and frankly better... marginally. For video out... G2 wins. Where the One utilizes MHL for 720p output, and only upscales to 1080... the G2 can use slimport and has can support true 1080 native playback. The G2 multimedia wise beats the HTC one hands down in more ways than these... the differencein using those functions rests on the user interface for each phone. As far as UI goes... HTC with sense is easier and more intuitive. It flows better and its good for those who need more of a dumbed down phone but still want a great media experince.
The G2 does ALL the functionality better, and is capable of far more than the One. It just isnt as pretty or intuitive. However spend about a week with the G2 and you wont care about it not being intuitive.
If you love a huge bezel free Scrren, then surely go with the G2 if it doesn't matter much to you go with the HTC One. From features and speed they don't differ much + HTC (might) be faster with OS Updates, if that's what matters to you. The Camera in both Phones isnt the greatest, the G2 one is kinda slow for my liking but I'm more the DSLR type anyway.
Just stay away from the Z1 unless you want be stuck with bad viewing angels.
I owned all 3 Phones and would put the HTC One and the G2 almost on the same level.
I have had the HTC one since it came out. I bought the G2 a couple of weeks ago as I was getting bored of the one. I found the g2 to be rather laggy and made me realise how smooth the one is. The one is the smoothest Android in existence. I read reviews saying the camera is great on the G2 but I found it quite dissapointing.unless you take very well lit pictures outside, zooming in to crop makes things look like they have been painted. I think the one produces better results even with it's 4mp camera.
I found the battery to be superb on The G2, I can get 5 hours screen on and 3 hours on the one.
I've decided to go back to the one and put my white 32gb white g2 up for sale. Pm me if you've interested!
Enjoy whatever you get
apart from the waterproofing and premium build on the z1 having played around with the misses g2 ,the g2 is better so thats why i recently got one to,the camera on z1 was suppose to be amazing but in truth g2 has better quility,more natural colours,even xperia T has better camera than z1 from xperiance and its not much faster than T either only in benchmarks,htc,nice device but camera lets it down a bit,G2 is the one to go for
Thank you very much all, i've tested the Z1 in a store just 30 seconds, and i was blufed by the smooth of the phone, the G2 and the One aren't available for testing.. I don't open a game or other, just open the browser (Google Chrome) and scroll into the homescreen, this is very fast, but i love Sense and i don't want wait 3 months for the new HTC.. The G2 is not very beautiful, so i pass on this phone. The Z1 have many problems (reviews from buyers), so, it's better i go on the HTC One who is a great value or the Z1 ? If i buy the One, will i have Sense 6.0 with ROM Cutom or Official updates ?
You have convainced me for go on the HTC One, but only if i will have Sense 6.0, because i don't want to wait 3 months, thank you all
inyrfacebiatchh said:
Thank you very much all, i've tested the Z1 in a store just 30 seconds, and i was blufed by the smooth of the phone, the G2 and the One aren't available for testing.. I don't open a game or other, just open the browser (Google Chrome) and scroll into the homescreen, this is very fast, but i love Sense and i don't want wait 3 months for the new HTC.. The G2 is not very beautiful, so i pass on this phone. The Z1 have many problems (reviews from buyers), so, it's better i go on the HTC One who is a great value or the Z1 ? If i buy the One, will i have Sense 6.0 with ROM Cutom or Official updates ?
You have convainced me for go on the HTC One, but only if i will have Sense 6.0, because i don't want to wait 3 months, thank you all
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you could test if the Xperia Z1 have the touchscreen issue... I can tell you that the touchscreen issue is too much frustrating ( if you have a lock pattern you will kill the Z1 in 3 days )
Buy an HTC One is buy an old phone. Buy G2 and if you dont like the look you always can buy a case.
I think i pass on the Z1 i don't want a phone which is have a problem every 10 minutes.. Yes i also think the One is too old now, so i will go on a G2 because he is a new phone and he was elected "phone of the year 2013" so i think he is good. But i think i will miss Sense.. Not a big problem because i will put a ROM Thank you !
inyrfacebiatchh said:
I think i pass on the Z1 i don't want a phone which is have a problem every 10 minutes.. Yes i also think the One is too old now, so i will go on a G2 because he is a new phone and he was elected "phone of the year 2013" so i think he is good. But i think i will miss Sense.. Not a big problem because i will put a ROM Thank you !
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