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hey guys .. my current milestone is totally fcked so i need to buy a new one ..
i came across this as an option .. i had sgs2 in my sights but its atleast $230USD more than samsung google nexus s in my country ( india ) ..
so i wanted to know is it a good buy ? .. even with the competion around are there better options ? r u guys happy with this phone ??
hows the battery gaming performance of the phone .. please any answers will b really appreciated .. thnx
You love this phone or you hate it. I can't really tell you why you should buy it now, but I can tell you why I think the Nexus S is great:
- It does everything great. Not perfect, just great. The phone works, let me put it that way. This is something you won't realise your first week. If you don't get what I mean: I totally agree with this blog
- It is unique. No one has it, that's for sure. The slick curved design, the fact that there's almost no text (at least not on the front), as little connections on the sides as possible: all good choices IMO. For me, this makes it not just another smartphone. If people ask what kind of phone it is, I don't even tell them the real name. I just say: a Samsung, with Android. People see it as Androyed's phone.
- I would NEVER, NEVER buy another smartphone than a Nexus. You probably know why.
- Custom ROMs. I don't think I have to explain this one. The fact that I was able to root and flash multiple custom ROMs and kernels without any problem, for me it says enough.
Besides this, there are some little things that you may find important. I didn't put these things with the reason why I love the Nexus S, because these are not unique features of the Nexus S. There are more phones that have an amazing screen and that are fast.
- The screen is amazing. Whether you take the Super AMOLED version or the Super Clear LCD version. I actually like the latter better, but there is no wrong choice with this one.
- It's very smooth and fast. Even if you stay stock. There is seriously no need for dual core phones, at least not at the moment (except if you like to play wannabe-3D games on your smartphone).
Why you might hate it:
- Google kept the Nexus S as clean as possible. It doesn't have many features. No SD Card, no notification LED, and no FM radio for example. No SD Card isn't that big of a deal, since the internal memory for apps is 1GB, and besides that you still have like 14GB for other stuff. No notification LED may be a problem, but with custom kernels you can use BLN. It lights up the software buttons when you get a message.
That you actually know about the Nexus S 6/7 months after it was released, and that you consider it as an option, I think it says enough.
I hope this was enough help to you. Good luck with your choice!
wow .. thnx a lot for your time .. in my country samsung has super clear lcd instead of amoled .. n i got this version of nexus s --> Samsung Google Nexus S i9023 .. dual cores well i can buy that once they get more common .. led i dnt care much ..
hows the speaker ? as in for ringtones n notifications n music
thanx a lot .. this was real help for me
rrohanjs said:
wow .. thnx a lot for your time .. in my country samsung has super clear lcd instead of amoled .. n i got this version of nexus s --> Samsung Google Nexus S i9023 .. dual cores well i can buy that once they get more common .. led i dnt care much ..
hows the speaker ? as in for ringtones n notifications n music
thanx a lot .. this was real help for me
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- Speaker volume is OK (may be a little low), but the vibration might cause some troubles. When I have my Nexus S in my pocket, I often don't feel the vibration.
- Sound quality through headphones is very good on the Nexus S, and it's almost perfect when you get a custom kernel with voodoo sound. You won't believe what you hear then. I think I can say that it has the best sound quality of all portable devices (Galaxy S has the same sound chip).
- Sound quality through speakers is also not bad, and also gets very good with voodoo sound.
- Sound quality when calling is good. The Nexus S has noise cancellation software.
Hi,
I was in the same dilema when I was looking for phone. Pickedup the phone online from letsbuy last week. Overall it is good value for money package.
I have rooted the phone and testing it. Overall except for connecting bluetooth to the computer it is working absolutely fine
If you are looking to upgrade in the next one year this is a good option.
If money is not a problem for you, then I would say go for the sg2. I am not saying the nexus is not worth but it's just the way tech evolves. This generation is about dual cores. Even Google is optimizing the next android ice cream for dual cores, n rumors of nexus prime coming with dual core.
People might tell you all over the forum that the nexus s gets updates first...... me myself I usually say that to people a lot but the truth is that it doesn't matter. Updates matters only if you are on stock rom which I do not think you'll remain. At the end of the day, both sgs2 Nexus s will get the ice cream through cyanogenmod,also Roms.....
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One simple reason to get this phone:
The call quality is good.
Unless you get an E-series Nokia or higher end Blackberry you won't find anything else similar in the smartphone market. There are actually ppl using the phone for calls, so thx Samsung/Google for bringing a decent phone at that.
And yes, I'd still get it today, prices are dropping, below 300€ soon w/o contract, pretty sweet. If you're getting a phone on a new contract might want to think about a SGSII as the subvention will be pretty high, but w/o NxS all the way.
By the end of the year my decision would be different though, WP Mango (especially the Samsung one SGSII-style), new BBs, iPhone 5 and maybe even next Google phone already.
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If money is not a problem for you, then I would say go for the sg2. I am not saying the nexus is not worth but it's just the way tech evolves. This generation is about dual cores. Even Google is optimizing the next android ice cream for dual cores, n rumors of nexus prime coming with dual core.
People might tell you all over the forum that the nexus s gets updates first...... me myself I usually say that to people a lot but the truth is that it doesn't matter. Updates matters only if you are on stock rom which I do not think you'll remain. At the end of the day, both sgs2 Nexus s will get the ice cream through cyanogenmod,also Roms.....
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Samsung also gave a cm developer a free Galaxy S2 to dev on. But the part about waiting is not true. You would still kind of be waiting on the manufacturer to release the source code for that specific Android version. With it not being fully released the company is not obligated to release the source code.
Kernel without source code creates limitations in development on all fields. Samsung gets a lot of pre released leaks so having a Nexus phone is a plus since Google releases the source code to the kernel in a respectable time.
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Call quality better than moto phones? I am using moto defy now, it has built-in hardware noise cancelling, i am very satisfied with the call quality.
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If money is not a problem for you, then I would say go for the sg2. I am not saying the nexus is not worth but it's just the way tech evolves. This generation is about dual cores. Even Google is optimizing the next android ice cream for dual cores, n rumors of nexus prime coming with dual core.
People might tell you all over the forum that the nexus s gets updates first...... me myself I usually say that to people a lot but the truth is that it doesn't matter. Updates matters only if you are on stock rom which I do not think you'll remain. At the end of the day, both sgs2 Nexus s will get the ice cream through cyanogenmod,also Roms.....
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I disagree with your stance about updates. They absolutely 100% matter because without a kernel source from the manufacturer for a certain iteration of the OS, the ROM won't function as intended. If the manufacturer isn't committed to an Android update, there obviously won't be a kernel made for it.
And when I say the OS won't function as intended, it means there will be missing features, bugs, and worst of all - terrible battery life. I will direct you to the Samsung Captivate version of CyanogenMOD that was developed without a full documentation for developers from Samsung. It was put together using the Nexus S' software/hardware as the phones are very similar. The end result, while very respectable, has many bugs and terrible battery life.
Anyways, in regards to the Nexus S, I just picked up this phone a few days ago coming from the said Samsung Captivate. Everything just "feels" better (physically and mentally) on this phone. The biggest driver that pushed me to upgrade to a phone that is fairly similar to my old device was that it has lasting appeal. Nexus phones will always sell well in the marketplace if you were to upgrade to the Nexus Prime (the Nexus One still sells for $250 amazingly) and we will still get Ice Cream Sandwich if we decide not to upgrade.
As a result, Nexus phones are always futureproofed which is always important when you are discussing tech. As such, buying a Nexus S is never a bad decision. At least better than buying an Atrix, G2x, Galaxy S or any of the high-powered but manufacturer specific phones.
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I disagree with your stance about updates. They absolutely 100% matter because without a kernel source from the manufacturer for a certain iteration of the OS, the ROM won't function as intended. If the manufacturer isn't committed to an Android update, there obviously won't be a kernel made for it.
And when I say the OS won't function as intended, it means there will be missing features, bugs, and worst of all - terrible battery life. I will direct you to the Samsung Captivate version of CyanogenMOD that was developed without a full documentation for developers from Samsung. It was put together using the Nexus S' software/hardware as the phones are very similar. The end result, while very respectable, has many bugs and terrible battery life.
Anyways, in regards to the Nexus S, I just picked up this phone a few days ago coming from the said Samsung Captivate. Everything just "feels" better (physically and mentally) on this phone. The biggest driver that pushed me to upgrade to a phone that is fairly similar to my old device was that it has lasting appeal. Nexus phones will always sell well in the marketplace if you were to upgrade to the Nexus Prime (the Nexus One still sells for $250 amazingly) and we will still get Ice Cream Sandwich if we decide not to upgrade.
As a result, Nexus phones are always futureproofed which is always important when you are discussing tech. As such, buying a Nexus S is never a bad decision. At least better than buying an Atrix, G2x, Galaxy S or any of the high-powered but manufacturer specific phones.
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+1 he pretty much said what I said but more briefly in detail. Usually Samsung Firmware leak internal early builds of the next Android OS. This reminds me of the Vibrant leaks using a I9000 kernel rebuilt for the Vibrant. It was terrible battery life. When using the leaked Vibrant kernel for Froyo, it was amazing battery life but it was not as quite as fast. All the Froyo builds were built from internal leaks.
Kernel source code is very important if you're into flashing ROMs.
i went to a store today to play around with these phones
1. sgs2 - well doesnt luk worth the price, luks brittle in the hand .. dint excite me
2. htc sensation - i found the screen better than sgs2 cuz sgs2 screen just seems too bright n coloury but htc is more crisp n realistic .. but bad battery life
3. lg optimus 2x - good choice .. about $100 usd less than the top 2
4. xperia arc - impressive but laggy at time .. best camera of them all .. but same
price i'm gettin sgs2
5. samsung nexus s - I LOVED IT .. especially for the price .. and according to me
4.3 inch is too big to fit comfortably into jeans as well
its about $230usd cheaper than sgs2 .. so i think m gonna go
for it
THNX EVERYONE FOR UR REPLIES
n i have bought it .. ne trips n tricks to it ? ... which is the best custom rom for this phone ? ..
i'm satisfied with just stock rooted, with a small amount of personal theming
you will probably hear cyanogan come up with the next post.
netarchy's kernal is very highly regarded.
poke around and have some fun.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071500 if you have the 4g model
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067813 if you have the gsm
ive tried multiple roms and kernels. i always return to stock. great battery life, great performance. matrix kernel almost kept me.
I am gonna return my 3VO for the Nexus-S 4G, Wife has it and I play with it more than my EVO-3D. I dare say it is a tad bit faster than my 3VO.
Plus the screen is amazing, and i love the curved rounded design of phone, feels great in the hand and fits in pockets easily.
As far as waiting for U.S. Galaxy S2, I say no, might as well wait for the better Nexus-Prime by Samsung. But for now get the Nexus-S. Plus the 4" screen size is perfect.
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I would wait for Nexus 3 (or whatever they call it)
I love this phone, all the talk about duel core is nice and is totally awesome that the mobile hardware is advancing so fast. But I use my phone for communicating by all venues, location based services, some light hulu plus watching, and occasionally some games.
Duel core will help out with pushing the gaming of these devices alot. But I am not having any issues with speed with the aspects of what I need this for.
You can probably get this phone off contract for a nice price and with selling your old phone.
in india we dont have contract systems ther by v are not stuck with the network .. we can buy any phone and use any carrier we feel like .. i love it tht way ..
I think it's really the litte things that make this phone so great. People can comment on the lack of dual core and expandable memory, but the stock experience and updates make it worth it. Good call quality, good battery life, working GPS, great audio quality with VooDoo, charging port on bottom(easier to use phone while charging), great GPU, and a completely blacked out look when the device is off
I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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The new nexus 2 still be having sd card slot.
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There is no SD card slot in the sgs3??
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1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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The phone should be 32gb at least. If not I won't buy it until it had 32gb.
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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Next year nexus, android 5.0. Sweet
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1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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This was just a prototype . Official woukd have minimum 16 gb
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jinosong said:
Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
Sensamic said:
I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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Only thing I like with the nexus, would be the faster updates (yes I do use custom roms).
Another thing I can't really stand seeing users who say that stock android is better bla bla. Have you ever compared stock androids camera (aosp) vs samsungs one? You might dislike the template/colour scheme of touchwiz, but from a functionality point of view, samsungs software is way ahead of stock android. (even aokp, cm etc etc) eg, camera, task manager on home long press, clock app, better messaging app, contacts app etc, direct call, smart alert, smart stay (better than not having the option)
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I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
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Butter shouldn't be the goal of the phone. Functionality clearly trumps it. For example, playing a complex game or watching a high resolution movie is where you'll see high-end hardware really shine. As for IPS, I foresee Samsung shedding that very soon in future models.
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I can't really stand would be users who say that stock android is better bla bla.
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I agree that some of Samsung's modifications are really useful. I used an S3 then tried a Nexus for the first time and I couldn't stand the simplified options menu of the device.
Not interested in Nexus devices. Apart from faster software updates, I still can't see any better features Nexus can offer to consumers compare to OEM devices.
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Yes my next phone would be a Nexus... I like the default android launcher and fast update on Android OS. Less stress cause by waiting and TouchWiz bugs.
I would sacrifice having no SD card slot if that's the case. I just want the next nexus to have a quad core and 2GB of RAM and a 32GB of storage would be fine with me.
if the price is right, i'll get the LG nexus phone to replace my S3
i'm always on AOSP rom. no point S3 when there's always something not working on stock android.
No sdcard slot = no go!
If it had a sdcard slot, I'd definitely go for it. It seems to solve all the problems of SGS3.
When the new Lumia 920 is there, i'll go for it.\
Im getting tired of android, the flashing, the custom ROMS.
None of it is without lagg, so i'm gonna try Windows Phone 8
No. The Nexus series of phones will never have a microSD slot 'cause Google do not think they're needed (along with file managers - with the Android trait of leaving leftover **** on the SD when uninstalling applications, yeah right). Despite already nearly filling up both my 16GB internal + 32GB microSD card, I'd - grudgingly - live with the loss of a microSD card slot but rumours say that the memory of the new LG Nexus is either 8GB/16GB in order to push Google's **** cloud services. Not only do I feel it's more futuristic that I can carry huge amounts of files on a tiny microSD card without having to be tied to the Internet, Google Music doesn't officially work this side of the pond and even if it did I don't have the data allowance to always be streaming - and, in my case, I don't get mobile phone signal for a couple hours a day...
LG have been told to make the next Nexus. Luckily, I never bought the useless doorstop known as the Optimus 2X, but ask around and owners will generally tell you it sucks thanks to its feature of randomly rebooting throughout your day, on the stock firmware doing nothing. LG Canada also said no to ICS for the phone - we're talking about the first Android dual-core phone and LG's flagship. Thankfully, Google will be operating the update side of things so this won't be an issue with the Nexus, but I'll be damned if I ever buy an LG phone (4x has a locked bootloader, for example. Again not a problem on the Nexus, but another reason why I'll never consider LG).
I want to (well, try to) punch a wall when I say this, but odds are I'll be getting a Sony phone when they release a phone with specs worthy of the month of the year they're announcing it in. (In short, I want a quad-core, Sony, not excitement over the fact that the T is - finally - your first dual-core) I'll never forgive them for the Vita but with phones, they seem to have it right so no point in cutting my nose off in order to spite my face. Everybody knows of Code Aurora, but Sony do release binaries for those things they don't/can't open the source of to make it easier for those who want to run AOSP-based ROMs, unlocking the bootloader can be done through a website of theirs (and there's no bollocks like S-ON to deal with), Entropy512 says they release the code of some of their own things that they don't need to - nothing groundbreaking but very helpful to AOSP ROM maintainers etc. and they've posted on XDA in order to promote their open-source software to help developers (there's a post from a Sony Ericsson employee somewhere on XDA talking about their program that wraps apktool and others to for a better decompiling experience... god I sound like a shill).
I've also seen them contribute fixes to upstream software. Take D-Bus. On a GNU/Linux desktop it's an open-source program used mainly by the KDE & GNOME desktops (and by a ton of freedesktop.org programs like the upower daemon) as a way for programs to communicate with each other. (Sorry for the awful attempt at an explanation) On Android it's there too, probably because BlueZ, which provides the Bluetooth stack, needs it. Applications can't use it on Android but if dbus-daemon is happy then BlueZ is too. On the DBus mailing list, I would see posts by Sony Ericsson employees working on Android trying to find out why X operation was slow and, in some cases, providing fixes themselves. This is a great approach as it means not only DBus-using Linux desktops get a more stable piece of software because Sony chose to submit directly to the people who wrote the the program, it also means that other Android phones that run the version of dbus-daemon with Sony's fixes also benefit. JBQ of Google also put the Arc S device tree into AOSP - the first non-Nexus phone - because (if I'm remembering right) Sony were always friendly to AOSP and were contributing.
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As a previous owner of the original sgs1 and currently have the nexus s I recently had to decide on my new smartphone. I discounted the nexus pretty quickly because, frankly I found the nexus s boring. The nexus line will always be good but never great. Lack of storage and no sd card is a killer. The only - admittedly considerable - thing going for the nexus range is early access to latest firmware. That's it. The galaxy s range are sexy and leading edge. That's where each new model is aimed and that's what Samsung achieve
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I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!
I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!
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I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!
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what about the lack of LTE?
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what about the lack of LTE?
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When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.
ak700 said:
When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.
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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?
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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?
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No I order through the Play store and use tmobile pre-paid's $30 plan. Works for me. I also have Sprint, which my family uses.
Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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You really make some valid points. Camera on my HTC One X is nothing crazy either. (pretty sure they have the same specs?) I'd also like to get into modding my phone and I think the Nexus would make it easy but I honestly have no idea what I would be doing. Hahaha. How do I learn more about it because I'm a complete newb.
Awesome phone, I completely love it. Don't need LTE either. External SD would have made this phone too good to be true.
Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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Haha. Love the metaphor! :good: I can see everyone loves their Nexus that's for sure!
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I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!
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I got the N4 in the mail the Monday after it came out. I too am coming from the AT&T HTC One X. I used the N4 for about a week straight before deciding to break out the ol' One X (just for a change of pace). Quite frankly, it would be hard for me to give up the N4 for the HOX now.
The HOX is a great phone, but the N4 just makes it feel slow in comparison. Maybe I'm spoiled by the speed of the N4, but I just felt like I had to wait forever to do basic things on the One X (running the latest ViperROM, btw). The HOX has better battery life, for sure, and the camera is better. I miss those two things the most. The HOX still has the best screen out there (other than the Droid DNA), but the N4 really isn't far behind. Once a few color control apps come out for the N4, my guess is that I won't really miss the screen as much. For what it's worth, I forgot just how big the HOX's screen is. When they say 4.7", they mean it. The N4 has a 4.7" screen too, but it's probably more like a 4.5" once the on-screen buttons are considered. But the additional width is really nice and almost makes up for it. I don't have LTE anywhere near me where I live, so that's irrelevant to me. I don't travel much either.
Here's my summary.
HTC One X:
- slightly better, arguably bigger screen
- better battery
- better camera (in terms of picture quality; the software is on par with the N4)
- smaller development community, although they're doing a great job imo
- poor multitasking on Sense roms (works fine on AOSP roms)
N4:
- stock Android
- blazes through any task you throw at it
- AT&T doesn't control your phone
- easier to root, flash roms, kernels, etc.
- future proof with quad-core processor and 2GB of RAM
I am fully satisfied with my Nexus 4. I love my One X, but I will not be going back to it any time soon, most likely.
I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!
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I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!
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I feel like you and me are one in the same! The only thing I do miss is the amount of iPhone users. All my friends and family have one... Which makes me miss iMessage and group texting :/
You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MEdia Net plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.
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You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MediaNET plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.
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Couldn't have said it better. The best devs are working on this phone (provided if they could get one) and that is the exciting part of Nexus4. Trumps all other phones out there.
It might seem very complicated at once if you are not familiar with Android, but it's actually quite simple. And people are always there to help. I'm looking forward to at least 1 great year with this phone.
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And the fact that I am the only one I know are using it makes it super cool. I have several friends who know of N4 but didn't purchase one all liked the phone after I showed them. Their impression was the speed and the screen.
A friend asked me to purchase an iPhone for him since I'm going back to China soon. While in Apple Store, I took out my phone and google talk'ed with him. I can't help but notice the "Genius" looking at me. :laugh: And signing on that 3.5' tiny screen is just ridiculous. I paid half the price for what he is gonna pay for that piece of gadget, but I don't even have the desire to try out the iPhone 5 in their store.
When I got my N4 I was stunned at the slim look and mild colors. I wasn't sure if I'd like it after being on an SGS2 for over a year. I've gotten to where I really love everything about the phone, except the signal.. It sucks.
I can hold the phone next to my Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tab 10.1 and where I would normally get full bars of Wifi signal, I get 1 bar if I am lucky. The cellular signal is terrible as well. Living in Florida with hurricane glass and Double block walls - my SGS2 got really good signal, this thing is just garbage. If you rely on good signal, its not for you..
The touch sensitivity on the on-screen buttons at the lower portion of the phone seem to be not so great, other than that and the signal issues everything else is excellent..
I'm very happy with my 8GB
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Like you, I previously owned a at&t htc one x as well. I ordered my nexus 4 on the 13th and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. Since then, I have sold my htc one x.
to be completely honest, i have to say i liked the camera and screen combination of the htc one x better. Colors on the htc one x were brilliant and vivid, while the nexus 4 screen seemed to look dull. this is all personal preference, but i prefer the 'over-saturated' look.
speed on the nexus 4 is a lot faster compared to sense, but when i had cm10 on my htc one x it wasnt a slouch either.
in terms of aesthetics, they are both beautiful in their own ways. i quite liked the htc's design, but i agree on the lack of support, with the nexus you are guaranteed at least a couple of updates, (just look at the nexus s, got 4.1)
here's my advice to you: as nice as the nexus 4 is, if there is nothing wrong with you htc one x, dont upgrade. If you want jellybean 4.2 and dont want to wait for the update, root your HOX and put cm10 on it.
I was able to sell my HOX for $260 and my nexus 4 was $340 after taxes/shipping.
I for one am very happy with my Gnex4...Ive had every phone that came out this year...just sold my note 2 which was a pure beast if I must say but this nexus have a more snappier feeling as far as speed and etc...plus development is going crazy for this phone which is a big +....but overall this is the best phone on the market hands down...with the note 2 very close behind...
So guys, I think I will be moving to the Nexus 5 and I water to take your opinions and if you want to change to it...then why?
I have two main reasons, the first would be to simply expand, I would like to test other phones than samsung and starting with a Nexus is the perfect choice. The other and MAIN reason would be Rom and Mod comp ability. What I mean here is that stock nexus devices should and as I know get many Roms, and i love exploring all the great Roms out there, and love tweaking my phone to the MAX. The problem here is that I own an I9500 and as you know that thing has a very low amount of Roms (Thanks to all debs who went through and created Roms for this device) but what I mean is that they are very limited. I remember on my Galaxy S1 how many Roms there were and how many Roms I flashed. Another problem would be that there are no stock android Roms, or stable ones at least, which limits everything. Along side with that Samsung is making it even harder to flash custom Roms (there is a post about this) but anyway it is becoming tougher, and that is kind of the opposite of what I want ( I AM NOT HATIN, I HAVE BEEN A SAMSUNG USER FOR YEARS). One example would be that we can't flash an older firmware, and that made so many problems for people like loosing their IMEI.
So tell me your opinions.
Nexus line will always be the first to get software updates. What you'll lose from moving are the expandable memory, removable battery, better camera, IR feature, perhaps better headphone sound as your version has the Wolfson DAC. Somethings to consider if any of those are important to you. Us i9505 owners have better development, also the ability to flash GPE roms.
I've personally ordered the N5 to give it a try if I don't like it I will return it under the DSR regulations we have in the UK. I do like Nexus products heck I had the N4 before moving to the S4 and have a N7.2 as well so know how development for those products are.
You'll gain instant updates, a plethora of roms and kernels, hassle free unlocking and no lock downs like Knox. A beefier CPU. Etc.
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Nexus line will always be the first to get software updates. What you'll lose from moving are the expandable memory, removable battery, better camera, IR feature, perhaps better headphone sound as your version has the Wolfson DAC. Somethings to consider if any of those are important to you. Us i9505 owners have better development, also the ability to flash GPE roms.
I've personally ordered the N5 to give it a try if I don't like it I will return it under the DSR regulations we have in the UK. I do like Nexus products heck I had the N4 before moving to the S4 and have a N7.2 as well so know how development for those products are.
You'll gain instant updates, a plethora of roms and kernels, hassle free unlocking and no lock downs like Knox. A beefier CPU. Etc.
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Thanks for your answer. As for my loss, well you will always need to sacrifice something to get something else, but for me the most vital thing would probably be the expandable storage and maybe the headphone sound. As for the IR blaster, camera, and battery they aren't major for me, as I have never had to change batteries, barely used the IR blaster, and don't use my phones camera when taking important photos. So I hope that if I do get the Nexus 5 I would have a great experience.
You sure will have a great experience. Just check the N4 and N7 threads and see how many roms etc there are. With custom roms the experience will get even better. You may find stock Android weird at first but you'll get use to it.
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Im already selling mine on Ebay. Nexus 5 will be mine next week
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You sure will have a great experience. Just check the N4 and N7 threads and see how many roms etc there are. With custom roms the experience will get even better. You may find stock Android weird at first but you'll get use to it.
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Yup, thats the most exiting thing for me THE ROMSD just hope I don't get screwed over again and only a couple of Roms will be released....but I'm pretty sure that that won't be the case.
Stevemeister said:
Im already selling mine on Ebay. Nexus 5 will be mine next week
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Great man, congrats!! Don't forget to report back on your experience, and what things do u like better or worst..
By the way which model of the S4 of you own?
Thanks!
I own a I9505 but I hate the screen and the AOSP bugs so the new Nexus is a logical move for me.
No more waiting for android updates and no more purple smearing issue with the screen.
Can't wait !
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Thank!
I own a I9505 but I hate the screen and the AOSP bugs so the new Nexus is a logical move for me.
No more waiting for android updates and no more purple smearing issue with the screen.
Can't wait !
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I actually never had screen problems (probably because of different model) but I agree.....NO MORE WAITING FOR UPDATES!!!!
I have one on the way. I first reason I bought it so that I could play around with OSs more, not just ROMs. Trying out different ROMs is fun but it is still Android. I hope to see ports of FirefoxOS, Sailfish, and Touch for the Nexus 5.
Second, I've had many Samsung devices and developers have always found a way to get them open for playing with but KNOX is different. It was not meant to be circumvented and Samsung must keep it that way. As people figure out ways around it Samsung will be forced to take more aggressive actions or the whole thing is useless for enterprise and government organizations. Samsung started down the path and will be forced to follow it.
Last reason, I had an LG Optimus G prior to my S4, and I really liked it. It was a great device and instilled confidence in their ability to make nice handsets.
There are a few drawbacks to the change for me. I will miss some of the hardware features like the sd and battery. I will also miss some of the software my carrier provides like navigation.
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+1. I am thinking of doing the same. While nothing is perfect. The nexus 5 is as good as it can get in terms of ui and responsiveness. I have yet to read some reviews though from some of the top reviewers specially camera , screen and battery reviews. Just read CNET review and they mentioned that the screen is not as good as the iphone5 and HTC one. Not very bright and under sunlight its less that satisfactory. It also doesn't compare in terms of vibrancy to a gs4 or a note 3. The video sample footage they shot is also pretty ordinary (a little jittery and kind of extremely sharp, almost like playing a video game with AA turned off). So I am still holding my horses but really like this phone otherwise. Only if the bottom bezel (chin) wasn't too big. It feels like a waste of space.
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I think we have several Dislike Threads forS4. Why we need this one.? You wanna move on, Then its good for you but please let S4 Users live in Peace.
Well this thread does serve a purpose since people who switched can give a comparison on what is good/bad about the N5 in comparison to the S4.
I for one want a nexus device
Ever since i got into android I always had a samsung, well still have 1 year and 4 months in my contract so i guess my next device is gonna be the N6.
I need a microSD slot and I like having a removable battery, AMOLED and full-sized screen (the navigation bar takes up room). S4 for me.
Staying with S4
Why?
rocking 64GB of sexy stroage
Strong 2800 Battery (also got a 3900mah battery for it)
Octo-Core ( 4 x 4)
Android 4.3
i'll jump to S5 when its out,
Nexus 5 looks like a business phone no sd card cant remove battery and 32GB won't cut it in this day n age wake up people.
Good choice bro, i doubt you'll be dissapointed
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lethcore said:
Staying with S4
Why?
rocking 64GB of sexy stroage
Strong 2800 Battery (also got a 3900mah battery for it)
Octo-Core ( 4 x 4)
Android 4.3
i'll jump to S5 when its out,
Nexus 5 looks like a business phone no sd card cant remove battery and 32GB won't cut it in this day n age wake up people.
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Agree!
Also heading for the s5 instead of nexus.
No sd card sucks! And battery replacement is a must for me
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Ok so I've been rolling my N4 for just over 2 years now and although I love it I can't help feeling I'm getting left behind. I'll just say that its been the best phone I've ever owned. Everything works out of the box. Google maps and nav for example. Simple, free and every other phone I've launched in anger at the necessary to me but total garbage navigation apps they provided. Nothing the N4 does I dislike.
I thought I liked the 'development' side. I played a lot with my HTC hd2 and ran that on android until it died but since moving to the nexus I'm a vanilla convert. My life is too busy to go rooting. Some may say I'm a iPhone wannabe owner but thats another blood boiling story so we'll skip that. I just love the updates, the simplicity the support and how much nicer android is over the competition.
So I ask. If I want or need a new phone, where do i go?
As I said I love the google updates/support
Size is important. The N4 to me is almost the perfect size. I'm not a phablet fan at all. The N6 launch was hugely disappointing for that reason.
Not sure how I'd cope with bloatware and a different interface like touchwiz coming from a vanilla android handset.
I suppose the reasons for a possible upgrade is LTE. Its getting more widespread in the UK.
The N4 has started to show some gremlins. Nothing bad but makes me question how long the handset will last.
Camera is utter ****. I'm not too bothered by breathtaking quality. Its still only a phone and if I want a proper pic I'll use my SLR, but convinience rules and the n4 camera is slow, unreliable and makes me look a fool who misses that important moment.
& I suppose storage. I like some music. Have a lot of pictures. & apps take up a lot of space. I don't see myself needing expandable storage but 16gb absolute minimum is a must.
So where do I go from here. New nexus? When will that be along?
Nexus 5? Or is that too old as well?
Or are there any other good android experiences from other manufacturers?
Interested to see what others have upgraded to and how they found moving on.
Cheers
I have a nexus 4 . I am Walting the next nexus (7) . I hope in a 5 inch and a waterproof device. Becaus of. The last update (5.1) of its lire. good chiose friend
Same problem here. Tried a Fire phone, too may issues . Saw in several articles that they are going to made a 2015 version on the Nexus 5 . The Nexus 6 is too expensive
Gary
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I still love my N4 but it's definitely time for an upgrade. I'm holding out for the nexus 5 2015 (assuming the rumors are correct obviously). I've been rooting and flashing roms on the N4 since I got it, at the moment I'm running the Chroma ROM with hellscore kernel and it's probably running better than when I first purchased it. Because of this I can easily wait for the next nexus release, there is no other device that would suit my needs to be honest.
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Well, the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact has official Cyanogenmod 12.1, although it's still in "testing". Or you could leave it stock, but it wouldn't be vanilla Android. Sony doesn't go too crazy with their UIs though, and you can always use Nova or whatever launcher to give it the AOSP feel. The Z3C is a significantly smaller phone than the Nexus 4, but only sacrifices .1" in screen size. Plus you'll get like double the battery life or more. And front-facing speakers, 128gb expandable storage, waterproofness, etc.
Or you could wait for the Saygus V2. It's not out yet, but it's basically an Android enthusiast's wetdream. Think of every cool feature on all the different flagship phones, and cram them all into a single device, and you get the V2. 5" 1080p screen, front-facing speakers, IR blaster, wireless broadcasting, waterproof, removable battery, fingerprint scanner, 20mp OIS camera, TWO microSD slots, 64gb built-in, 3GB RAM, dual boot capability, rooted (or rootable) out of the box, and damn near every LTE band on the planet.
No, the Nexus 4 is NOT forever device. I'm back to using mine as I sold my M8 (needed the money) and it's SO slow compared to the newer phones out there. Plus the lack of 4G is a bummer
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No, the Nexus 4 is NOT forever device. I'm back to using mine as I sold my M8 (needed the money) and it's SO slow compared to the newer phones out there. Plus the lack of 4G is a bummer
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I sold my M8 too, but not because I needed the money, I much preferred my Nexus 4.
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