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Nexus 4 losing mobile internet when idling a long time in wifi

Hello all,
currently my Nexus 4 is losing it's mobile internet connection when i am a long time connected to a wifi. I am on O2 germany as a carrier, when android was much younger, like 1.6 i had the same issues, but somewhen on android 2.X it was fixed.
Somehow it looks like in 4.2 it's now the same issue
When i am just a few minutes in the wifi and lose wifi connection like moving away from the building everything is fine and the nexus 4 is switching to mobile internet
when i am a few hours in the wifi and to the same it's not switching, i've got cell connection for call and text but no Internet,
switchting from 2g to 2g/3g fixes it then, but it's somehow annoying
any ideas or anyone with the same issue?
edit:
seems that people are having the same issue on the galaxy nexus too, but even with older android versions
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28474
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workaround fix app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.symsoft.wififixerfree

it actually happens to me as well. I live in Australia and thought the problem lies with my provider. And yeah I can get the 3g connection back when i tried to change to 2g then back to 3g connection. Has this issue been reported before? hope it can be fixed soon.

This has happened to me twice since I got my N4. I'm in Canada btw. I wonder if it is a frequent problem out there.
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Me too...is there a fix?
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my solution so far is: airplane mode on -> airplane mode off

This is what I usually end up doing. Although it sucks that a phone of this caliber has problems with this.
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Im having the same problem. Doesnt matter which rom im on. Been on stock, modaco, and some PA rom with this problem. Also used matr1x kernel and franco kernel. Solution for me is to jump into airplane mode and back.

I'm in the same boat and only quick fix is airplane mode on/off.
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I have the same issue.
I dont know whose fault it is, Google, LG or my carrier... but it's quite frustrating from time to time.
I thought i had solved it by activating "choose automatically" in mobile network settings> network operators.
It worked yesterday and this saturday, i didnt drop 3g connection when i disconnected wifi.
But i lost it again this morning as i left for work, just like last week...

I've had this problem since 2.1. I seem to remember it being on the Google fix boards. The aeroplane on/off is the easiest workaround. But, still, it's annoying, and it is also not consistent. If it makes you feel any better, the same issue arises on iphones. This suggests it is not simply an android issue, it might be interesting to know if bb or wpx does it.
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i think the issue is neither LG nor Google
i think it's something with qualcomm driver and the provider
because on older devices i had with qualcomm chips had the same issue
the sgs2 and the hox which had exynos and nvidia chips didn't had the issue

kboya said:
I've had this problem since 2.1. I seem to remember it being on the Google fix boards. The aeroplane on/off is the easiest workaround. But, still, it's annoying, and it is also not consistent. If it makes you feel any better, the same issue arises on iphones. This suggests it is not simply an android issue, it might be interesting to know if bb or wpx does it.
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Do you mean this thread from march 2009?
hxxp://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2207
Idk if knowing that others have the same problem makes me feel better, i just hope they can fix it.

That's likely the one, I'll rely on your veracity.
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I have the same issue, and not thought about the airplane mode. Thanks guys
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so if you check the google support forum thread
it looks like a lot of users are having this issues
i don't undersand why google is not even giving a statement

It happens to me very often, because I turn off data overnight. Airplane mode doesn't help, the only thing that brings connection back without reboot is Mobile Networks -> Network operators -> search... It finds my operator again and connection comes back. I had the same problem with Galaxy Nexus 4.1.2 (fixed in 4.2, though), but airplane mode did the trick there.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.symsoft.wififixerfree
this app is a workaround to fix it

Internet stops working when left idle for long
I bought the phone a week back & am facing the same problem.....not just been with Wi Fi even if the phone is left idle the internet stops working & i have to restart......post that it comes back to normal & active.
Its quite annoying to restart phone every now n then everytime internet stops working.
Also, tried Airplane mode on/off its worked.
Are there any experts that can help to resolve the issue for a better & permanent solution....?!

Slow Wi-Fi on MF3?

Here are my specs:
Phone
16gb galaxy s4
At&t
Not rooted
Touchwiz
Android 4.2
MF3 baseband
Router
Apple airport extreme
Auto channels
WPA password protected
I have seen some threads with the s4 running slow on dlink WiFi, but I have an airport extreme base station at home. My phone rings perfectly on 4g/LTE, but nothing seems to work on Wi-Fi. YouTube is slow as hell, play store takes forever to load. A few weeks ago, everything was working great over Wi-Fi too, so I wanted to ask if anyone else is currently having this issue?
My wife's iPod touch works fine on the same Wi-Fi, as well as a thinkpad and macbook air.
I've already tried disabling Wi-Fi power saving mode, but haven't touched any other settings. Any thoughts on what to do? I was thinking about taking it to best buy and switching out the phone, maybe a bad phone? (Not likely because it was working fine a few weeks ago)
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I've attached a picture of my speed test too
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Try adding your device to the DMZ. If that fails, get rid of the Apple junk. ;P
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I'm interested in any option that doesn't require me to buy another router. Like I said, wifi working fine for everything else. I appreciate your suggestion, but I'd love to hear other options or approaches.
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Aaaaaaand back to 1 mbps with "network errors"

[Q] wifi problems

hi everyone....used to be a regular on here when i had my captivate, but then the s3 and my current s4 i never modded in any way......anyway...my att s4 will not keep my home wifi info and loses connection at times....is there any way to fix this?

If it only happens on your home Wi-Fi it's an issue with it. Try upgrading the firmware on it.

no
it has to be phone side becausee there are numerous things on wifi that are not effected

Few questions first to help,
Is your router a single or dual band router?
Does it drop and than reconnect, or is it dropping and not finding?
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it drops and then i have to retype the password
i think it is dual band

WiFi has been crap on my s4 since day one. Constantly drops or slows significantly on N or AC or G networks. I tried 3 routers and I have dozens of other devices with no problems. Countless times a day I have to toggle WiFi on and off to restore speed for another 5,10 or 15 minutes. YouTube is the worst. It just hangs when the phone drops to 1-3 Mbps down from 30. This happened on stock and all stock like ROMs. WiFi is this phones tragic flaw. The problem gets no attention online because people think it only pertains to dlink routers which is completely untrue.
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well
well i figured out my problem i think...it may be your problem as well
is yours on att as well?
if so there is a app called att smart wifi...this is what was causing my issues....however the phone(even stock) will let you remove this app

I am on att, I don't have it. I have something frozen called ATT hotspots. But nothing called Att smart WiFi.
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Samsung customer service..(rant!)

Samsungs customer service is a joke, wrote the voice of the customer (samsung website) a lengthy email and I get back a canned response that doesn't even address my concerns. In this day and age you would believe a company would actually want to keep customers
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What was the problem I'm curious. I did a chat with Samsung and they told me a bunch of things to do that you tell clueless people, like restart your phone or factory reset. The worst part is he told he never heard pf anyone complaining about the issue I was describing. Yet there are threads all over the internet about it. It's pathetic.
One thing I absolutely loved about Apple is that you walk into their store, you show them a legitimate problem and you walk out with another phone. No BS no runaround no nothing. That's the only thing I miss and I miss it a lot.

I'm with you techweed, I'm having the dreaded wifi is unstable message, the first tech support rep admitted it's a software issue and to deal with it. The last samsung rep said to send it in and be without a phone for five days. I tried to tell them they can't fix this since it's a software issue but they said the same thing to me about not having ever heard about this issue. I'm so close to going back to apple it's not even funny
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astang99 said:
I'm with you techweed, I'm having the dreaded wifi is unstable message, the first tech support rep admitted it's a software issue and to deal with it. The last samsung rep said to send it in and be without a phone for five days. I tried to tell them they can't fix this since it's a software issue but they said the same thing to me about not having ever heard about this issue. I'm so close to going back to apple it's not even funny
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If they made a phablet I would seriously consider going back barring some incredible device being released by one of the Android manufacturers.

I hear you, it's crazy I've had all the notes, I love this phone when it works but it seems the note 2 was much more refined
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astang99 said:
I'm having the dreaded wifi is unstable message,
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Have you tried ensuring that Auto Network Switch is unchecked in the WiFi|Advanced settings?

I have it still pops up your wifi connection is unstable extremely random
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astang99 said:
I have it still pops up your wifi connection is unstable extremely random
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Turn Wi-Fi power saving off!!
Step 1. Bring up your dial pad and press *#0011#
Step 2. Hit the menu button and select Wi-Fi
Step 3.Turn the button to off!
Now back to y'alls rants.
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I've already did that still pops up
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Maybe your WiFi really IS unstable.

inmotion said:
Turn Wi-Fi power saving off!!
Step 1. Bring up your dial pad and press *#0011#
Step 2. Hit the menu button and select Wi-Fi
Step 3.Turn the button to off!
Now back to y'alls rants.
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I thought we established that this method does not work for everyone?

The funny thing is that the unstable wifi issue started occurring after a few days, not right away. Can someone provide a technical explanation why it's happening? I've never had this issue in any Samsung phone.
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incisivekeith said:
The funny thing is that the unstable wifi issue started occurring after a few days, not right away. Can someone provide a technical explanation why it's happening? I've never had this issue in any Samsung phone.
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Are you still stock or rooted? I am seeing reports of certain root/flashing combinations causing wifi issues.

inmotion said:
Turn Wi-Fi power saving off!!
Step 1. Bring up your dial pad and press *#0011#
Step 2. Hit the menu button and select Wi-Fi
Step 3.Turn the button to off!
Now back to y'alls rants.
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I cant get this code to bring up service mode I get connection problem or invalid mmi code
help

I'm stock and I believe my connection is extremely stable, don't you think I would have checked that before thinking it was my phone?
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astang99 said:
I'm stock and I believe my connection is extremely stable, don't you think I would have checked that before thinking it was my phone?
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What kind of router are you connecting to?
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Asus n65 rtu dual band, happens at my work router also
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worst customer service
the galaxy note 3 is wonderful machine
BUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THE WORST EVER
AND NEED DECADES TO REACH THE LEVEL OF APPLE CARE
since i bought my galaxy note 3, i have the problem of overheat... which is very known
i visited so many times reparation center in my city
and send it to the main reparation center in Paris
and after one month waiting ... they return the phone fter resetting it only... WTF
and when i saw my wife iphone who had the same problem and being replaced after one call only and within 3 days... i'm really wanna throw this phone to nearest garbage...
more than 3 months have been passed and over 15 times call to customer service
and 9 times went to reparation center including once to main one...
to end by defected phone and can't be use more than 2 - 3 minutes...

Guess what? ALL "Customer Service" is a joke. In fact, customer service no longer exists. Welcome to 2014.

theorioles33 said:
Maybe your WiFi really IS unstable.
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Exactly. I had this message and it turned out, my router was d/cing the modem.

Poor signal

So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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cam1pbell said:
So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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I find it helps to turn on airplane mode then turn it off. Resetting the radios often helps it pick up 4g again.

We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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dwkeepinup said:
We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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Yes it is very annoying. Thanks for feedback. I still love the phone. For such a beast of a phone it should have 5 five bars all the time. Lol
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The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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icemike557 said:
The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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The update made my phone snappier. As far as the signal , I think it might have helped a little bit. I know it doesn't sit there for a few seconds when calling someone. It used to take forever.
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Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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I just switched from my SGS3 to the new Note 3 and my reception is much better now.
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cam1pbell said:
Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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I think I'm going to sell my note 3 and buy the developer addition. Only problem is I paid full price. I'm willing to lose a couple hundred bucks for a good signal.
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Bsmith0731 said:
The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.

I also had the gs3 . This phone by far kicks the gs3 butt. I will agree the gs3 signal is twice as good. My galaxy note 3 works awesome if I'm not at work or in my house. It is what it is.
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Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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cam1pbell said:
Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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Is MJE any better?
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neyenlives said:
garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Bsmith0731 said:
Is MJE any better?
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Well so far no improvement. I'm going to let it settle for a few days before I change it back.
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I dunno. This phone gets all around better reception than my GS3 did. On MJE here.
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OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/

neyenlives said:
OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/
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No I haven't dropped my phone. my phone is very well taken care of. After using the MI9 modem for a day I've had twice the battery life. At 14 hrs I had 51%battery with 5 hours of on screen time. Thanks for the feedback.
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I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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TechSavvy2 said:
I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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You are correct sir I think I'm just doomed with the area I live in but MI9 modem did help my signal or mostly my battery life.
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