Can anyone provide me with an explanation and solution for this problem my N4 is having with Faux's kernel? For some reason when I OC my N4 to 1.8ghz, it runs fine with no problem, but when my N4 enters sleep mode, the device completely freezes and the screen won't turn on or respond. I end up having to force it to shut down by holding the power button and restarting it lol...
Sunohara said:
Can anyone provide me with an explanation and solution for this problem my N4 is having with Faux's kernel? For some reason when I OC my N4 to 1.8ghz, it runs fine with no problem, but when my N4 enters sleep mode, the device completely freezes and the screen won't turn on or respond. I end up having to force it to shut down by holding the power button and restarting it lol...
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try to upscale the min freq a little bit.
That's pretty normal for an unstable device. You might want to play with voltages a bit.
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korockinout13 said:
That's pretty normal for an unstable device. You might want to play with voltages a bit.
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opssemnik said:
try to upscale the min freq a little bit.
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So what exactly is causing this issue? From both of your answers it seems that when it enters sleep mode it undervolts and as a result it becomes unstable because there's not enough energy to manage the CPU when it's at 1.8ghz? Or is it crashing because there" too much of a difference between the minimum and maximum frequencies?
Sunohara said:
So what exactly is causing this issue? From both of your answers it seems that when it enters sleep mode it undervolts and as a result it becomes unstable because there's not enough energy to manage the CPU when it's at 1.8ghz? Or is it crashing because there" too much of a difference between the minimum and maximum frequencies?
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some nexus still comes with the rev1 or 2 of the snapdragon s4 pro. those have problems with deep sleep modes that faux uses.
opssemnik said:
some nexus still comes with the rev1 or 2 of the snapdragon s4 pro. those have problems with deep sleep modes that faux uses.
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So how should I go about fixing this? O.O
disable c2 sleep state and then try
Sonoo said:
disable c2 sleep state and then try
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I'm using trickstor mod right now, where do I go to disable this option?
Sunohara said:
I'm using trickstor mod right now, where do I go to disable this option?
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yo need to use faux app
opssemnik said:
yo need to use faux app
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Okay, I just installed the Faux123 Enhancement app, and in my "CPU Idle and Statistics" section I see C0, C1, C2 and C3. Only C1 is turned on though.
then you need to manage voltages
Sunohara said:
Okay, I just installed the Faux123 Enhancement app, and in my "CPU Idle and Statistics" section I see C0, C1, C2 and C3. Only C1 is turned on though.
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unninstall trickster.do a test without any modification to the original kernel config and see if it still happens.
opssemnik said:
unninstall trickster.do a test without any modification to the original kernel config and see if it still happens.
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It doesn't seem to occur anymore thanks a million, however there's something else that is going whack now lol.... For some reason it seems whenever I turn off "mpdecision", it always turns back on when I reboot my N4. My other settings stick and only the "mpdecision" reverts back to being on. Same goes for "Snake Charmer", it always goes back to "off" when I reboot device. I set everything to "set on boot" too.
hm,do you are setting these values on trickster?
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hm,do you are setting these values on trickster?
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No, I uninstalled Trickster and got the Faux123 enhancement application as you instructed. But yeah, for some reason "mp decision" and "Snake Charmer" will revert back to default whenever I reboot my device. My other settings that I have changed do stay though, so I'm not sure why only those two options reset themselves when the others don't.
If you put set on boot they will stick a few seconds after reboot, you have to wait a few.
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These are from my N5 but i used the same settings as N4, of course 384MHz should be the lowest you want.
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UZ7 said:
If you put set on boot they will stick a few seconds after reboot, you have to wait a few.
These are from my N5 but i used the same settings as N4, of course 384MHz should be the lowest you want.
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Did you change any of the voltages on your N4 when you overclocked it? My N4 still seems to sometimes freeze and crash in sleep mode while its over clocked to 1.8ghz. While it's on it never crashes or has any problems.
Sunohara said:
Did you change any of the voltages on your N4 when you overclocked it? My N4 still seems to sometimes freeze and crash in sleep mode while its over clocked to 1.8ghz. While it's on it never crashes or has any problems.
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I only used mainstream so it was stock 1.5Ghz but I had it at -100mV and the binning was fast. Did you change any of your cpu idle/stat settings?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34502823 try the settings on here. I disabled only C2 rest are on.
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UZ7 said:
I only used mainstream so it was stock 1.5Ghz but I had it at -100mV and the binning was fast. Did you change any of your cpu idle/stat settings?
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Currently, I have C0, C2, and C3 enabled. I know that these sleep mode crashes are related to the SOC control but I can't seem to find what I have to enable and disable. The voltage most likely has a role in it too, but I'm not sure which "things" voltage I have to change. I keep getting these dodgy replies saying to change my voltages but they dont tell me what voltage I have to change. Am I supposed to raise the voltage on the 1.8ghz or what? It's like someone telling me to punch someone, but who?
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Currently, I have C0, C2, and C3 enabled. I know that these sleep mode crashes are related to the SOC control but I can't seem to find what I have to enable and disable. The voltage most likely has a role in it too, but I'm not sure which "things" voltage I have to change. I keep getting these dodgy replies saying to change my voltages but they dont tell me what voltage I have to change. Am I supposed to raise the voltage on the 1.8ghz or what? It's like someone telling me to punch someone, but who?
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Oops I'm on my desktop now, had to reread.
Pretty much my phone was on "m" meaning mainstream = stock 1.5GHz.
The "u" one is the one with 1.8GHz.
That being said undervolting is best applied to lower clocks and for battery saving.
Since the 1.5GHz is what the default max clock for the N4 it has a table range of voltages. Each one may be different depending on binning meaning some might be at 800mV and another at 775mV (just an example) for a given clock like say 384MHz, 400MHz, 500MHz etc...
When people say did you change voltages, since 1.8GHz is technically an overclock you may or may not need to adjust voltages to compensate the need for more power. If the voltages are too low it will either reboot or crash/wont turn back on. Similar things apply to overclocking CPUs on desktop.
So since 1.8GHz isnt within stock spec it is considered an overclock therefore it may need more voltages and that can be adjusted.
I would download the latest faux123 kernel and reapply it and start from the beginning. Then if it keeps crashing you may need to apply more voltage and I think they go by 12.5mV.
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This is from my N5 and this is considered undervolting.
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Anyone else have this problem. I usually am running at 1516 with cm. 6.1.1. So the other day for ****s and giggles I decided to disable set on boot and revert to 806 mhz (stock) and man what a difference. I got 26 hours of battery life. I've tested today with setcpu on running at 806 and tfhe battery life is way off. Somethings up.
[G2/HTC Vision]
Try the app cpu tuner, afaik, any speed above 1.2ghz is overvolted anyway which speeds battery usage. Cpu tuner has worked well for me as I think the verdict is still out to whether setcpu's screen off profiles actually work. That, and I personally don't see a difference in 1ghz vs 1.5ghz in daily activities, unless gaming
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Actually I use set cpu and I get about 36 hrs before I have to recharge. I'm oc @ 1.2 ghz and with moderate use. I guess it really does vary from phone to phone.
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How are you guys getting such high battery lives? I was at 28% after 6.5 hours today... like wtf? And i didnt overclock or anything... I was using the phone with continuous data for about 90 minutes... other than that just texting...
Setcpu is the culprit. I would just like to know why it varys for every user. Maybe ill try reinstalling the app and see the outcome.
[G2/HTC Vision]
Yeah I get the same crap. I have CM7. Suppose to be good with battery power management. With Glacier I got 17 hours with set cpu profiles.
G2 its a joke. I got 9 hours luckily.
Now its 5 hours I got %39. Is it my phone or the battery?
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Hmm I beg to differ. I am running CM 6.1 and this is my battery life. BTW I only use SetCPU to OC to 1.3Ghz . No profiles
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Yeah I get the same crap. I have CM7. Suppose to be good with battery power management. With Glacier I got 17 hours with set cpu profiles.
G2 its a joke. I got 9 hours luckily.
Now its 5 hours I got %39. Is it my phone or the battery?
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Hmm I beg to differ. I am running CM 6.1 and this is my battery life. BTW I only use SetCPU to OC to 1.3Ghz . No profiles
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That's very nice. I just disable the profiles and left it at 806 MHz. The battery drainage slowed down. So profiles really mess up. I have tried virtuous rom, with profiles I got pretty good for HTC sense. But I haven't gotten any close to yours.
With cm 6.1 I had %20 in 4 hours with normal usage.
Also is minimum and Max at 1.3 ghz?
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As long as mine lasts the day I'm Happy
My batterry life.
You can see I'm overclocked @ 1.2ghz as well.
Diffrent pic.
Last pic of my home screen was a bit blurry so i uploaded a new one. Now you can see the o.c speed a bit better.
Why would it vary from every user then? I do have profiles setup with ondemand as all my profile governors. I find it very weird how some people are getting good batt life with setcpu running and I'm getting amazing battery with it off. Ran it off for 20 hours so far and I'm at 45 percent.
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Maybe some people haven't configured their profiles properly in SetCPU? I know I didn't. I have my phone OC at 1.2ghz and had profiles set for lots of different profiles including screen off at 245/245; i was only getting 14 hours top. However, I realised that the priorities that I had set the different profiles to were clashing. I discovered this when I only the screen off profile enabled with the rest of the profiles disabled and with moderate use (few phone calls via Bluetooth, 25-30mins, a few SMS msgs, very little data, wifi switched on, 2g+3G, not much browsing) I have got 52% after 17hrs 33mins)
Thats very good battery life for me!
Try having profiles enabled but with just the screen off profile activated. It worked wonders for me!
No maximum is 1.3 and min is 245mhz interactive governor
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That's very nice. I just disable the profiles and left it at 806 MHz. The battery drainage slowed down. So profiles really mess up. I have tried virtuous rom, with profiles I got pretty good for HTC sense. But I haven't gotten any close to yours.
With cm 6.1 I had %20 in 4 hours with normal usage.
Also is minimum and Max at 1.3 ghz?
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Question why not a minimum of 245mhz. Btw the SetCpu widget is a battery drainer.
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Last pic of my home screen was a bit blurry so i uploaded a new one. Now you can see the o.c speed a bit better.
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Utorrent76 said:
Last pic of my home screen was a bit blurry so i uploaded a new one. Now you can see the o.c speed a bit better.
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Dude cancel that appt ... injection ahead!!
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Can't.
zkid2010 said:
Dude cancel that appt ... injection ahead!!
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I kinda need it. It's a cortisone shot.
Recently I rooted by DZ and got CM7 installed.
Got SetCPU loaded.
I've seen a considerable battery 9hours and the batt is dead.
Governor: Interactive
Main: 1017/245
Screen off: 368/245
Temp: 806/245
Battery <10% 245/245
Charging 1017/245
fluxgfx said:
Recently I rooted by DZ and got CM7 installed.
Got SetCPU loaded.
I've seen a considerable battery 9hours and the batt is dead.
Governor: Interactive
Main: 1017/245
Screen off: 368/245
Temp: 806/245
Battery <10% 245/245
Charging 1017/245
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The screen off profile does more harm than good and you do not need it if you are using either the smartass/interactive/scary governer considering they will already underclock when the screen is off, the switching of profiles regularly is a real killer. Beyond that, look into calibrating your battery as well the next time you fully charge the phone. The battery calibration app is also available on the market.
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Hmm I beg to differ. I am running CM 6.1 and this is my battery life. BTW I only use SetCPU to OC to 1.3Ghz . No profiles
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It seems like you aren't even using your phone. Nothing else shows up but the 3 standards.
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Okay.
So ive noticed people getting 10 to 14 hours battery...
I get like 7.
Even if my phones in my pocket doing nothing.
I don't have a data plan, and its not connected to my schools wifi.
I lost 30% battery with no use for over 8 hours.
Is the standby time really this horrible? did people who get 10 to 14 hours recondition?
Should I recondition?
Its pissing me off really bad.
Low signal?
No its not signal I have 5 bars out like 24/7
I'm also getting horrible battery life no matter what I do. It's getting to the point where I am going to flash another ROM out of necessity.
I ran the System Monitor program for awhile and seems like the phone sleeps properly, but still sucks battery hard!
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miguelmondo said:
I'm also getting horrible battery life no matter what I do. It's getting to the point where I am going to flash another ROM out of necessity.
I ran the System Monitor program for awhile and seems like the phone sleeps properly, but still sucks battery hard!
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Yeah.. I love cm7 but if it means I can use it for like 7 hours. I'm out. Going to recondition battery today.
after that, back to some edt roms that look like GB
Hmm use automem killer and set it to strict.
And if you don't use 3g then pit it in airplane mode
Also lower brightness and use the kernel that exel provides as this patches the drain bug
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Alanrocks15 said:
Hmm use automem killer and set it to strict.
And if you don't use 3g then pit it in airplane mode
Also lower brightness and use the kernel that exel provides as this patches the drain bug
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I do want to get phone calls and texts.
Lowest brightness, always.
The cm7 kernel, idk who the dev is, is what I use.
xriderx66 said:
I do want to get phone calls and texts.
Lowest brightness, always.
The cm7 kernel, idk who the dev is, is what I use.
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Okay lower CPU and download the voltage control app
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xriderx66 said:
Okay.
So ive noticed people getting 10 to 14 hours battery...
I get like 7.
Even if my phones in my pocket doing nothing.
I don't have a data plan, and its not connected to my schools wifi.
I lost 30% battery with no use for over 8 hours.
Is the standby time really this horrible? did people who get 10 to 14 hours recondition?
Should I recondition?
Its pissing me off really bad.
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Ohkay,
I'm at 15% right now, 10 hours 11 minutes 36 seconds uptime.
SetCPU:
Overclocked - 1.3ghz (Considering not even Overclocking, it's snappy already.)
Screen Off Profile - Max: 800 Min: 100
Voltage Control:
1300 Mhz - 0
1200 Mhz - -25
1000 Mhz - -25
800 Mhz - -25
600 Mhz - -50
400 Mhz - -50
200 Mhz - -50
100 Mhz - -50
Other Stuff:
Brightness - Always lowest
Bluetooth - Always off
WiFi - Always off (Enable when you need it.)
Auto-sync is check off
Settings -> CyanogenMod Settings -> Performance -> (Uncheck Enable surface dithering.)
I'm also using the Gingerbread launcher.
Uh, yeah. >.<
theexel said:
Ohkay,
I'm at 15% right now, 10 hours 11 minutes 36 seconds uptime.
SetCPU:
Overclocked - 1.3ghz (Considering not even Overclocking, it's snappy already.)
Screen Off Profile - Max: 800 Min: 100
Voltage Control:
1300 Mhz - 0
1200 Mhz - -25
1000 Mhz - -25
800 Mhz - -25
600 Mhz - -50
400 Mhz - -50
200 Mhz - -50
100 Mhz - -50
Other Stuff:
Brightness - Always lowest
Bluetooth - Always off
WiFi - Always off (Enable when you need it.)
Settings -> CyanogenMod Settings -> Performance -> (Uncheck Enable surface dithering.)
I'm also using the Gingerbread launcher.
Uh, yeah. >.<
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Thanks I'll try those!
Also I have wifi on about 12 hours a day, I have no data plan, so I use wifi only, I do turn it off when I don't use it for a long period of time.
Brightness always lowest.
Bluetooth never used just once in a while.
I did all those settings... These are the screens of what it should look like... Correct?
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EDIT: voltage control now says incompatible kernel, link to three one your using please?
K now voltage control is working...
I set it to save settings on boot is that good?
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Thanks I'll try those!
Also I have wifi on about 12 hours a day, I have no data plan, so I use wifi only, I do turn it off when I don't use it for a long period of time.
Brightness always lowest.
Bluetooth never used just once in a while.
I did all those settings... These are the screens of what it should look like... Correct?
EDIT: voltage control now says incompatible kernel, link to three one your using please?
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Alright, well if you need WiFi on, keep it on, ahah.
And, I use 'conservative,' by the way. But, yes, that looks right.
I'm using this kernel, by the way; http://kang.project-voodoo.org/f/CM7/Vibrant/CM7_Vibrant_kernel_kang_20110327_03_update.zip
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K now voltage control is working...
I set it to save settings on boot is that good?
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Well, you should have just 'Apply for now' to test them out, as not all our phones are the same.
But, just use it for a while, and if it seems to run fine, then yeah, just keep it like that.
Sorry for triple post, I'm on phone...
Voltage control settings are...
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Sorry for triple post, I'm on phone...
Voltage control settings are...
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Yeah, that looks right.
Just check my post above yours for the rest of the info.
theexel said:
Alright, well if you need WiFi on, keep it on, ahah.
And, I use 'conservative,' by the way. But, yes, that looks right.
I'm using this kernel, by the way; http://kang.project-voodoo.org/f/CM7/Vibrant/CM7_Vibrant_kernel_kang_20110327_03_update.zip
Well, you should have just 'Apply for now' to test them out, as not all our phones are the same.
But, just use it for a while, and if it seems to run fine, then yeah, just keep it like that.
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K.
conservative on.. Set cpu the profile or the regular thing? And that's the kernel I use, just haven't updated to latest, I'm on the one before that
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K.
conservative on.. Set cpu the profile or the regular thing? And that's the kernel I use, just haven't updated to latest, I'm on the one before that
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On both.
& Alright, yeah, should be fine, ahah.
Thanks for ALL the help, I'll press thanks when I get to a computer.
Btw have you reconditioned and do you recommend I do?
This feels faster lol.
Also this causes NO.problems right?
Like phone turning off after fully charging
xriderx66 said:
Thanks for ALL the help, I'll press thanks when I get to a computer.
Btw have you reconditioned and do you recommend I do?
This feels faster lol.
Also this causes NO.problems right?
Like phone turning off after fully charging
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Ahah, no problem! Glad to.
I reconditioned it a couple days ago, yeah, sure, go ahead, just dun do it often.
Yeah, it shouldn't cause any problems.
And if you get a lock up and it reboots, try tweaking the UV settings a little.
Now weird thing is I get freezes when I'm on deadline or noop scheduler but not in cfq at 1.3ghz
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I have had data on for a huge chunk of this time and played shadow gun for 10 minutes. I'm over locked to 1300 Max 800 Min on ondemmand. Auto brightness, disabled auto sync, and all the other tricks you can think of. With data off I can pull off an extra 6 hours without games. What is this horse s**t?
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Nexus S - CyberGR Hybrid ICS (5), Matrix Kernel (15.5)
Try Eugene kernel with luzuactive. I am having good battery life with that.
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That seems fairly normal to me on ICS; maybe even better than what I can get. I can only get about 2.5 hours of on screen time + 20 hours idling.
You have about 4 hours on on screen time and no idling. Seems about right.
However on Gingerbread you could probably pull off more on-screen usage.
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Try Eugene kernel with luzuactive. I am having good battery life with that.
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Does NS Tools work with that? I want to keep my BLN and Deep Idle . And can you point me in the direction of the kernel
***** EDIT: Nvm found it, going to try it. It does work with NS Tools says the dev and users of the ROM
AeroEchelon said:
That seems fairly normal to me on ICS; maybe even better than what I can get. I can only get about 2.5 hours of on screen time + 20 hours idling.
You have about 4 hours on on screen time and no idling. Seems about right.
However on Gingerbread you could probably pull off more on-screen usage.
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I was able to get a lot more out of it a week ago... The same things I do now I could do for 4-7 (+some off screen use...) hours, off screen would be MUCH better... It just suddenly stopped being good. ICS wasn't always this bad lol
For starters your min is 800 MHz.... What the heck?! Who needs that? I'm sure that and being OC'd to 1300 hurts too.
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For starters your min is 800 MHz.... What the heck?! Who needs that? I'm sure that and being OC'd to 1300 hurts too.
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So should I drop all the way down to 100, or go for 200 or 400? 100 seems blegh to me. I'm thinking of 200? I am however keeping the 1300 . If I must I'll go down to 1200.
Kernel is definitely not the problem. I've ran matrix before and its had some of the best battery life.
Problem is with your 800mhz min. You definitely don't need that. Run it at 200 and the difference won't be that significant.
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moneybag said:
Kernel is definitely not the problem. I've ran matrix before and its had some of the best battery life.
Problem is with your 800mhz min. You definitely don't need that. Run it at 200 and the difference won't be that significant.
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Okay thanks . So I'm going to go for 1200 / 100 on the speedy 7 kernel (lulzactive)... Good? If it works out eventually I'll switch back to Matrix 15.5 and see the difference. I've heard Trinity is very good
Just waiting on a full charge will post results when they come in. I'll be doing some very heavy usage because that's what I'm concerned about.
P.S. I've enabled Auto-Brightness after "re-thinking" the advantages to it in terms of battery use + screen visibility.
With smartassv2/sio on CyberGR & Eugene kernel I'm getting the best battery performance I've had ever since I put on ICS. At this rate I can hit 3 days idling. With heavy usage, probably 6-8 hours? Try it.
deetailed said:
With smartassv2/sio on CyberGR & Eugene kernel I'm getting the best battery performance I've had ever since I put on ICS. At this rate I can hit 3 days idling. With heavy usage, probably 6-8 hours? Try it.
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I'll try it on lulzactivev2 first. Isn't lulactivev2 better than smartassv2 ? Every site I go to with information regarding governors tells me something else lol. Except ondemand that's the only one that has had a consistent definition.
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Set min freq to 200 first off. 800 min is way too high if you want to save battery.
Secondly leave deep idle turned off, it doesn't do anything on ics.
check out bedalus battery drain comparison.
I get around 4 hours of screen on time for about 12-14hrs on battery.
I also undervolt more than the kernels are already undervolted.
nodstuff said:
Set min freq to 200 first off. 800 min is way too high if you want to save battery.
Secondly leave deep idle turned off, it doesn't do anything on ics.
check out bedalus battery drain comparison.
I get around 4 hours of screen on time for about 12-14hrs on battery.
I also undervolt more than the kernels are already undervolted.
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I already have a 100 min on-going so I don't want to mess up the test . Afterwards I'll do 200. As for deep idle the option on my NS Tools has mysteriously vanished so I won't be able to enable it either way . I'm not going to touch under voltage I don't know much about over clocking (besides it speeds up your phone) as is. Lol rather not get into another hole
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I already have a 100 min on-going so I don't want to mess up the test . Afterwards I'll do 200. As for deep idle the option on my NS Tools has mysteriously vanished so I won't be able to enable it either way . I'm not going to touch under voltage I don't know much about over clocking (besides it speeds up your phone) as is. Lol rather not get into another hole
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I read somewhere that 200 is better than 100 bit the only way to know is to try it out!
That's coz speedy doesn't have deep idle. Nstools doesn't show options the kernel doesn't have.
Well if you wanna try undervolting just uncheck set at boot in nstools.
Then search for stock nexus s voltages and see what they are and then look see what yours are and work from there.
The worst that will happen is that your phone will reboot but it will boot into the kernels stock voltages because you unchecked set at boot! No harm done!
Are you running the kernel with the 65 fps hack or no?
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800mhz min?!?!
wow.
if anything, that should be your MAX speed...
I'm running 1000mhz max 100min with smartassv2 on the latest matr1x kernel and it lasts all day with pretty heavy use
nodstuff said:
I read somewhere that 200 is better than 100 bit the only way to know is to try it out!
That's coz speedy doesn't have deep idle. Nstools doesn't show options the kernel doesn't have.
Well if you wanna try undervolting just uncheck set at boot in nstools.
Then search for stock nexus s voltages and see what they are and then look see what yours are and work from there.
The worst that will happen is that your phone will reboot but it will boot into the kernels stock voltages because you unchecked set at boot! No harm done!
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Haha very true! Will do . Already I am not noticing the mass heat emitting from my phone (1200/100).
mathkid95 said:
Are you running the kernel with the 65 fps hack or no?
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Umm I'm not sure :S? How do I check?
derekwilkinson said:
800mhz min?!?!
wow.
if anything, that should be your MAX speed...
I'm running 1000mhz max 100min with smartassv2 on the latest matr1x kernel and it lasts all day with pretty heavy use
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Haha, yeah I had originally intended for epic speed. I soon realized it wasn't worth it (my quadrant scores are only 300-500 lower now...). Oh wow. Well hopefully these new settings and governors will help me!
When did you download the zip?
Maybe you can post the mediafire link of the one you downloaded?
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When did you download the zip?
Maybe you can post the mediafire link of the one you downloaded?
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I downloaded the ZIP today so it would be the most recent download link (if that helps).
Yeah you're good then..
Just follow nodstuff's advice and lemme know what happens!
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Hello everyone Today i am going to share with you my Experience regarding how to increase battery life and getting a non heat up device
What to do ?
1) Get Root access into your device
2) Install any Cpu control app into your device. for example ( SetCPU, Rom toolbox pro )
3) i set minimum frequency at on 300 MHz and Maximum frequency at 1728 MHz
4) Set the Scheduler on Row
5) Set the Governor on interactive
My tests and Results ..
1) My device is not heating up any more, and now i can continually use my device. I test my xperia z1 by using it 5 hours continually.
2) A little bit more battery life
3) This will not effect on device gaming performance because we are not underclocking the GPU. and overall device still remain fast.
Note
1) After every reboot you should check your cpu settings again because some time the settings restore on default
2) You can also change your Scheduler and Governor on different pairing and testing your device more and more
and also share your result here so all know that which pairing is giving us best result
Hit Thanks if i help you
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zohaib0001 said:
Hello everyone Today i am going to share with you my Experience regarding how to increase battery life and getting a non heat up device
What to do ?
1) Get Root access into your device
2) Install any Cpu control app into your device. for example ( SetCPU, Rom toolbox pro )
3) i set minimum frequency at on 300 MHz and Maximum frequency at 1728 MHz
4) Set the Scheduler on Row
5) Set the Governor on interactive
My tests and Results ..
1) My device is not heating up any more, and now i can continually use my device. I test my xperia z1 by using it 5 hours continually.
2) A little bit more battery life
3) This will not effect on device gaming performance because we are not underclocking the GPU. and overall device still remain fast.
Note
You can also change your Scheduler and Governor on different pairing and testing your device more and more
and also share your result here so all know that which pairing is giving us best result
Hit Thanks if i help you
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will try it... because my z1 is getting hot even while browsing web. .. only problems i had was that CPU apps were avoiding my phone going into deepsleep. therefore my battery consumption went to the sky..
Mine actually doesn't heat up fast, it stays quite cool most of the time
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krabappel2548 said:
Mine actually doesn't heat up fast, it stays quite cool most of the time
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Z1 mostly heat up when we play HD games for a long time, but with using these settings device remain cool
well it is good that your device is not heating up, may be depend also what are the weather condition ( Temperature ) out there in your country
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best to avoid setcpu for now if you wanna try this trick. there's already a case of Z1 owner bricking his device because of it
and another case from ZU forum here
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463484
ROM Toolbox seems to be working fine so far
CPU adjuster works pretty well
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how to root xperia z1
I am having a xperia z1. It getting hot when I use it for 1 hour. How can I root it to use the CPU controller.
And will I be able to unroot the phone after rooting it if I need to do so......
Pulse help me bro......am very tensed about my phone....
sanju123tom said:
I am having a xperia z1. It getting hot when I use it for 1 hour. How can I root it to use the CPU controller.
And will I be able to unroot the phone after rooting it if I need to do so......
Pulse help me bro......am very tensed about my phone....
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Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45464102
Hope it help.
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My Z1 is rooted and installed setCPU, I followed same setting ,
1728 max,
300 min,
interative,
row
but ....bad battery life and heating issue still the same, no significant improvement for me ....
and wondering why sometime the max CPU frequency will set back automatically to 2150 mhz....
any advice ?
I hope 4.4 (or 4.3 if we get it) will fix this problem.
If I play HD games it becomes very, very hot...
I'm happy because I don't like to play games on 5' screen.
I have N7 and it's great for gaming - it doesn't heating at all
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I think all new devices have this problem, in tablets have more space to dismiss heat.
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What is so bad about a hot device? The chips are designed to withstand those temperatures and as long as the hardware is not damaged, or I burn my fingers, I am fine with it.
I actually like that the thermal limit is so high, it means that there is less thermal throttling. This probably is the reason why our Z1 is faster at 2,15 GHz than the LG G2 at 2,3.
Well yes, battery life will take a hit, but that's the trade off for massive performance
zohaib0001 said:
Hello everyone Today i am going to share with you my Experience regarding how to increase battery life and getting a non heat up device
What to do ?
1) Get Root access into your device
2) Install any Cpu control app into your device. for example ( SetCPU, Rom toolbox pro )
3) i set minimum frequency at on 300 MHz and Maximum frequency at 1728 MHz
4) Set the Scheduler on Row
5) Set the Governor on interactive
My tests and Results ..
1) My device is not heating up any more, and now i can continually use my device. I test my xperia z1 by using it 5 hours continually.
2) A little bit more battery life
3) This will not effect on device gaming performance because we are not underclocking the GPU. and overall device still remain fast.
Note
1) After every reboot you should check your cpu settings again because some time the settings restore on default
2) You can also change your Scheduler and Governor on different pairing and testing your device more and more
and also share your result here so all know that which pairing is giving us best result
Hit Thanks if i help you
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Hi ..... how long you can play graphic/CPU intensive game ?
I play asphalt 8 for nonstop only can last for 2 hours +.....:crying:
keithkii said:
Hi ..... how long you can play graphic/CPU intensive game ?
I play asphalt 8 for nonstop only can last for 2 hours +.....:crying:
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i played at least 5 to 6 hours
Try this change the Interactive with On-Demand and other settings same as i describe in first post
zohaib0001 said:
i played at least 5 to 6 hours
Try this change the Interactive with On-Demand and other settings same as i describe in first post
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Question....I am wondering why the max frequency always auto set to max after some time....
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just download trickstermod and enable the thermal throttling, that should work.
Test
Cpu downclock to 1728 mhz with fauxclock
Governor Ondemand
I/O Scheduler deadline
fast and perfect battery life :good::laugh:
tcchuin said:
just download trickstermod and enable the thermal throttling, that should work.
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i download trickster Mod apk but i did not find thermal throttling setting in it
please can you tell me where i can find this setting ???
last tab'specific'.
I have noticed this phone underperforms compared to other Snapdragon 821 devices and I have found a method to majorly increase the speed of this device.
After the following changes the device remains running at cool operating temperatures and performance is increased over the board about 50%
Doing these changes will disable the useless thermal limits set by Xiaomi on this device. Xiaomi set the limits far to low unlike other manufacturers.
The device still has hardware thermal protection by Qualcomm so there is no chance these changes will damage your device.
Your will need:
ES File Explorer
Kernal Auditor
Root Access
Open ES File Explorer and navigate to System/etc
Scroll to the bottom and find file thermal-engine-8996.conf
Copy this to your sd card for a backup and delete this file. ( This will not take effect immediately )
Go to Kernal Auditor and change the big core CPU Governor to OnDemand and set the Maximum CPU frequency to 2150MHz.
Set the LITTLE core CPU Governor to interactive and Max Frequency to 1593MHz.
Go to GPU and change the GPU Max Frequency to 560MHz.
Restart your device for these changes to take effect, the changes are astounding and matches the performance of a stock Snapdragon 835 device while still running at standard operating temperatures.
are u sure, we will have same thermal sensation ? i mean in hand ?
Wont it make the device very hot and will have very fast battery drain?
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The device doesn't get any hotter than usual with these settings.
It is important to under clock a bit so it can keep this sustained performance without breaching it's thermal limits.
The performance gains are very noticeable especially with Dolphin and PPSSPP.
You can see how hot the device gets with Kernal Auditor. Compare the heat listings before the changes and after these are done to check for yourself.
As long as you use these settings the device will not get hotter than stock.
omerbagi10 said:
Wont it make the device very hot and will have very fast battery drain?
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The device doesn't get hot if you underclock the cores and battery life is even better because you are underclocking the GPU and LITTLE core which don't need to go up to 2.1GHz for standard tasks.
NGP-1001 said:
The device doesn't get hot if you underclock the cores and battery life is even better because you are underclocking the GPU and LITTLE core which don't need to go up to 2.1GHz for standard tasks.
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So there are no downsides? :silly:
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There are always down sides to system modifications that haven't been extensively tested, his mileage may not be what you get - be very careful changing core restrictions / settings.
I find there can be considerable variation based on the ROM. I have found EPIC to give the most consistent results. By results I mean Antutu, since general performance is hard to measure.
I set the cores to their max and the boost frequencies to max too. Governor is on demand for both. Response after touch is set to 100ms. In the thermal settings I have Temperature Throttle on and the GPU governor to performance. I get 155k In Antutu almost every pass. Sometimes it'll top 160k, other times down to 150k.
I don't care about the heat since I almost always use the included case and I'm not concerned with battery life. The main thing that still bugs me is the temp figure in Kernel Auditor. It'll show high 60s after Antutu, but other temp apps like CpuTemp show it never gets above 45C. What does your temp get up to?
From what I've read, even in the 60C+ range it's still within safe/reasonable working temps for the CPU. I've used these settings for around two weeks and I've gone out of my way to game when I rarely did before (sometimes 1-2 hours in PPSSPP which taxes it). Never had it freeze/lock/reboot once. My Nexus 6 would occasionally do that when I had it pushed to the limit.
If I didn't use the case then I probably would back off it a little as you have outlined as the temps when holding the bare phone can be pretty hot.
gavin19 said:
I find there can be considerable variation based on the ROM. I have found EPIC to give the most consistent results. By results I mean Antutu, since general performance is hard to measure.
I set the cores to their max and the boost frequencies to max too. Governor is on demand for both. Response after touch is set to 100ms. In the thermal settings I have Temperature Throttle on and the GPU governor to performance. I get 155k In Antutu almost every pass. Sometimes it'll top 160k, other times down to 150k.
I don't care about the heat since I almost always use the included case and I'm not concerned with battery life. The main thing that still bugs me is the temp figure in Kernel Auditor. It'll show high 60s after Antutu, but other temp apps like CpuTemp show it never gets above 45C. What does your temp get up to?
From what I've read, even in the 60C+ range it's still within safe/reasonable working temps for the CPU. I've used these settings for around two weeks and I've gone out of my way to game when I rarely did before (sometimes 1-2 hours in PPSSPP which taxes it). Never had it freeze/lock/reboot once. My Nexus 6 would occasionally do that when I had it pushed to the limit.
If I didn't use the case then I probably would back off it a little as you have outlined as the temps when holding the bare phone can be pretty hot.
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Kernal Auditor gets the actual CPU/GPU temps , I'm not sure where apps like CPUZ or CPU Temp get their readings.
Even after running Dolphin or PPSSPP for a couple hours the CPU temp gets into the low 70's but that's as high as it goes.
These chips are safe to run up to 95 C for CPU , 100 GPU and 110 C for the battery.
Changing these settings keeps the device well within it's thermal limits.
I have had my phone set like this for months after running it many other configurations.
I just had to tell everyone about it because it beats my buddies OnePlus 3T quite a bit when it comes to gaming.
omerbagi10 said:
So there are no downsides? :silly:
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Give it a try and see for yourself.
I recently upgraded to the latest epic ROM version and found my phone to be running extra slow and battery wasn't lasting as long.
Turns out the update had reverted my settings so I decided to post this thermal "fix"
I highly recommend everyone make this change really , there is a reason that OnePlus decided to underclock their OnePlus 3T and why it runs much faster than the Xiaomi Mi Mix before this fix is completed.
It's all because the thermal throttle kicks in much too early on the Mix due to the extra heat at max Mhz for the GPU and large cores.
The only way to change this and get the performance enhancements is the remove the thermal file as I posted and follow the steps to ensure good thermals.
Thanks. Done here. It got REALLY REALLY fast but so warm for now. I'll wait to see if it get colder...
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Tried these mods right now.
Simply wonderful.
Antutu from 130.000 to over 157.000
Increased speed
Now all is very smooth
But the temperatures, incredibly, are gone down...this smartphone now is more fast and more cold.
Xiaomi/Qualcomm thermal control is so bad?
But there's a strange issue with Kernel Adiutor: I set the frequency, governor etc but, after reboot, I see these settings returning to original values. Is it normal?
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Tried these mods right now.
Simply wonderful.
Antutu from 130.000 to over 157.000
Increased speed
Now all is very smooth
But the temperatures, incredibly, are gone down...this smartphone now is more fast and more cold.
Xiaomi/Qualcomm thermal control is so bad?
But there's a strange issue with Kernel Adiutor: I set the frequency, governor etc but, after reboot, I see these settings returning to original values. Is it normal?
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I also have this problem.
I have set everything and the "Apply on boot" is on but everything is going back to the original values.
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alberto8523 said:
Tried these mods right now.
Simply wonderful.
Antutu from 130.000 to over 157.000
Increased speed
Now all is very smooth
But the temperatures, incredibly, are gone down...this smartphone now is more fast and more cold.
Xiaomi/Qualcomm thermal control is so bad?
But there's a strange issue with Kernel Adiutor: I set the frequency, governor etc but, after reboot, I see these settings returning to original values. Is it normal?View attachment 4181218
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Really? It was so warm here. Like 80 degrees celsius. Would it be cause im using RR?
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I had the same temperatures with miui, RR and Lineage.
If I delete that file in every rom, i think I have the same results: more speed, less temperatures
I will try this settings on My MIUI ROM...
@ all...
Tips to have Kernel Adiutor to apply @ boot value (on MIUI ROM i mean)
Go to security center and manage permissions for this apps like auto startup authorized after restart i see a notification with time which say, i will aplly your value in xx seconds... and it works...
@NGP-1001
Thx for your feedback and tips, will make some test on my daily usage and send my feedback too...
Cheers
NGP-1001 said:
Even after running Dolphin or PPSSPP for a couple hours the CPU temp gets into the low 70's but that's as high as it goes.
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Dolphin the browser? The only other Dolphin I know of is the one for GC/Wii emulation.
Low 70s is as high as mine gets too but it can get uncomfortably warm without the case. Maybe it's just when the CPU and GPU are both being pushed that the heat builds more. If I just use a CPU-only benchmark, like GeekBench, the phone only ever gets moderately warm at most.
I was really disappointed with the general stutter and performance (just in the UI, not even gaming) before I noticed your old thermal post. I can't recommend this method enough. Getting rid of the thermal.conf makes a massive difference no matter if you underclock it or push it to the max, even if you're taking a hit on battery life.
For those on the latest EPIC, the integrated Kernel Auditor is gone, so it needs installed from the Play store. Even then it won't work on boot like the old one did. You need to go into Settings > App Settings > Permissions > AutoStart and toggle it on.
Great result with performance governor
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Dolphin the browser? The only other Dolphin I know of is the one for GC/Wii emulation.
Low 70s is as high as mine gets too but it can get uncomfortably warm without the case. Maybe it's just when the CPU and GPU are both being pushed that the heat builds more. If I just use a CPU-only benchmark, like GeekBench, the phone only ever gets moderately warm at most.
I was really disappointed with the general stutter and performance (just in the UI, not even gaming) before I noticed your old thermal post. I can't recommend this method enough. Getting rid of the thermal.conf makes a massive difference no matter if you underclock it or push it to the max, even if you're taking a hit on battery life.
For those on the latest EPIC, the integrated Kernel Auditor is gone, so it needs installed from the Play store. Even then it won't work on boot like the old one did. You need to go into Settings > App Settings > Permissions > AutoStart and toggle it on.
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O, i need agree, device is much smoother then before, if u don't play, u will have a standard temp ° but i try to play Battle Bay... Got damn, baby...
Hot like a woman in video clip from old west coast sound... 84.2°... based on demande request, if u play, device come hot, other it's cold...
Will try more time to check if i can adjust temp limit to reduce speed based on temp limit...
Cheers
If anyone is still getting higher temps I would try underclocking a bit more. You will still get the speed increase even at much lower MHz. I wouldn't use the performance Governor as it's a huge battery drain.