Well there was a thread that was going, but the OP decided to post warez links and it got closed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601850
I made an app with Tasker App Factory that does what the original post explains in a video (http://m.androidauthority.com/moto-x-green-notification-331710/), for those that don't have/want Tasker.
This is the first time I've shared anything that I've made in Tasker, and I can't say why it has some of the permissions it does, honestly. If anyone cna elaborate on why it does has those default permissions, that'd be great.
DISCLAIMER: As I stated above, this is my first app. I tested it on my Verizon Moto Maker edition Moto X that is rooted on 4.4. I take no responsibility for what happens to your phone or anything you do with this app. It worked fine for me, but I make no promises it will work for you.
Latest Version: https://copy.com/uUWpwXnGdJXpPIC
- Latest one adds in a few more options for how the light is displayed, and a brightness setting.
Original Version: https://copy.com/9w9TlRH2yt3L3BC
Install, run, and accept the root request (root is needed for the shell command, just as it is in the Tasker profile). It will also run the command when you boot, and starts working a few seconds after the phone turns on.
Note: If you decide you don't like it and uninstall the app, you will probably need to reboot after uninstalling to disable the LED.
Hopefully someone finds this useful. I personally don't care for it, but I like making stuff in Tasker and thought I'd give it a shot.
I just installed this. It works very well, thank you.
Installed and works. But isnt it supposed to switch off the light once the phone is charged?
Running on AT&T XT1058 KK
anirudh412 said:
Installed and works. But isnt it supposed to switch off the light once the phone is charged?
Running on AT&T XT1058 KK
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It is set to display the LED when it is charging or full. When I get a few minutes I can update with other options.
I updated OP with a new link, newer version with more options.
very cool! Thanks!!!! Seems to be working just fine.
If you plan to add anything, a slow fade on and off would be a nice addition as well!
ssoares01 said:
very cool! Thanks!!!! Seems to be working just fine.
If you plan to add anything, a slow fade on and off would be a nice addition as well!
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I don't know of a way to change the behavior of the LED other than what's there. It can only do things defined by the system software at this point. If anything else becomes available, I'll see about updating it.
Why does it need the permission to unlock the device?
MaKTaiL said:
Why does it need the permission to unlock the device?
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I have no idea. I referenced it in the first post. Tasker seems to have that for all apps and I couldn't remove it. I have a lock screen PIN on my phone and it is not disabled by the app.
fury683 said:
I have no idea. I referenced it in the first post. Tasker seems to have that for all apps and I couldn't remove it. I have a lock screen PIN on my phone and it is not disabled by the app.
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Thanks, the app works great.
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Rooted?
hello dude! Nice job,
Are necessary to be root to do this app work?
Thank You.
Josoe said:
hello dude! Nice job,
Are necessary to be root to do this app work?
Thank You.
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Yes root is required to run the shell command.
I don't think I would bother with this for normal use however if someone stuffs a wireless charging coil inside the phone then I think it becomes very useful.
Still waiting for my coil to arrive before I crack into a phone.
Steve-x said:
I don't think I would bother with this for normal use however if someone stuffs a wireless charging coil inside the phone then I think it becomes very useful.
Still waiting for my coil to arrive before I crack into a phone.
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Yeah I'm still undecided. I like it with the brightness nearly all the way down, like below 10. It's subtle but I can still find my phone in the dark when next to my bed (the active display shuts off from 12am-7am).
With the new update its useful to know that your battery is fully charged once the led has shut off. There is no other way to know with this phone unless you turn the screen on
Mayze23 said:
With the new update its useful to know that your battery is fully charged once the led has shut off. There is no other way to know with this phone unless you turn the screen on
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Also true. Someone posted that one of the options was to blink while charging and stay solid when it gets full, but it doesn't seem to work properly. It just blinks until it's full and then shuts off, from what I read. If they find a way to fix it I'll add it in.
some work for notification led for other apps ??
thank u for ur work
danger2u said:
some work for notification led for other apps ??
thank u for ur work
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Currently it only works when the phone is plugged in as a charging indicator.
Currently rooted on 4.4.
installed the program, didnt ask for root access, and the LED doesnt show up.
can someone please help me?
MaKTaiL said:
Thanks, the app works great.
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latest version that allows setting different lights for charging and full doesn't work....light never goes on. Previous version worked. rooted Verizon developer edition.
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I searched and found nothing like this.
When I boot my Nook Color, running Cyanogenmod 7, any recent nightly, wireless is off, even though it was on before booting.
I open Notifications, tap the wireless, it turns on and works fine. I've checked, airplane mode is not on.
Updating to newer nightlies doesn't work. I'm pretty sure this used to work. My glacier doesn't have this behavior.
Any thoughts on how to fix this so the wireless state is retained over boots?
I have the same thing but I actually prefer it this way since I use it so much for reading.
I think those lately night builds have screwed up a few things such wireless OFF on boot. Another itchy part (for me) is the Terminal Emulator somehow got blue background and when "exit" command, it doesn't exit but I must force it off under Managing Applications.
votinh said:
I think those lately night builds have screwed up a few things such wireless OFF on boot.
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Ah, thanks. I suppose I can't file a bug since it is a nightly, I'll mention it on the appropriate thread and hope.
Another itchy part (for me) is the Terminal Emulator somehow got blue background and when "exit" command, it doesn't exit but I must force it off under Managing Applications.
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Press the menu key, then "Reset term".
Yeap, that's another less painful way to close T.E.
Try downloading android assistant from the market and checking to see if you have airplane mode on through the app.
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Try downloading android assistant from the market and checking to see if you have airplane mode on through the app.
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I had it, and got rid of it because it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm pretty sure I had checked this before *and* I have flashed several times, but I just got it and...the airplane is blue. I've got a thread on a dev thread, I'll ask about it getting fixed, clearly shouldn't be happening.
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I had it, and got rid of it because it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm pretty sure I had checked this before *and* I have flashed several times, but I just got it and...the airplane is blue. I've got a thread on a dev thread, I'll ask about it getting fixed, clearly shouldn't be happening.
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It should not be blue. Tap on it and it should turn gray. Problem solved.
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Is there an actual answer for this issuer? Is this designed by the CM7 team?
thereddog said:
Is there an actual answer for this issuer? Is this designed by the CM7 team?
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It's an Android problem. Something to do with missing radios. Happens on the touchpad too.
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Definitely not a nightly problem, it's that way in the official release too.
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Some smart CyanogenMod users fixed this problem. Perhaps their methods would work for you as well as they worked for me.
I guess we just have to avoid accidentally enabling airplane mode.
I actually prefer wifi off on boot as I don't need it most of the time and it just drains the battery.
Guys, im the developer of Power Switch, an app that switches off your tablet's screen when you shut the case.
The main thread can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277712
Ive had reports of problems with the tab's light sensor, so would appreciate some debugging feedback.
You can use the lite version to test, it has all the features, but just wont save as much juice.
Thanks in advance. Feel free to reply here or in the main thread, i read both regularly!
Do you guys not have a light sensor or something?
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Do you guys not have a light sensor or something?
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Yes we do. Maybe if there was some incentive to be your testers, like a free full edition, you might get some to actually be your "guinea pigs"
It works, but it will be much better if we can have a locking sound...
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It works, but it will be much better if we can have a locking sound...
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Oh wow, thats a great idea, never thought of it... i will definitely add this in the next release.
Almost done!
Updated, added screen locking sound
I just ordered a case, so I will gladly test this out once I receive it.
Just to let you know, I did try the full version of your app, but ultimately refunded it. It's a great concept, but just didn't work well on my A500. I don't know if our light sensor sucks or what, but the app wasn't detecting the cover being closed.
Anyone else having problems? Problems not related to not reading the instructions?
I'll try again with the Lite version, and see if I can configure it better. I did read the instructions, maybe I was just too quick to dismiss it.
I tried this on my Acer and the Acer cover, but didnt seem to work. Also tried the lite version. I did play around with the settings abit but still nothing. Sorry
Hey I have a suggestion. I apologize if this is already a feature as I did not see it in the other thread. But if you're able to trigger screen locks and sounds and such, why not also add the ability to have it turn off/on wifi and/or 3g?
Interesting... i will look into it, thanks!
Any issues to report?
Anything to report?
Hi Nexus 10 owners,
Love my Nexus 10 but I have an issue with the notification light under the screen.
It was working fine when I first got it on Friday, with it dimming on and off when an email is received.
But since yesterday, it hasn't light up at all, for any notifications, and I do have the "Pulse Notification Light" checked in setting.
So I was wondering if anyone else have any problems with the notification light? Could it be a bug, or perhaps my light broke after the first day?
Thanks in advance for any response.
I might suggest trying https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coolbeans.ledtester&hl=en to see if your light still works
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I might suggest trying to see if your light still works
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Just tried the app and there's no light.
However, could it be that this app doesn't work on the Nexus 10 yet?
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Just tried the app and there's no light.
However, could it be that this app doesn't work on the Nexus 10 yet?
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Yea it might be possible that app doesn't work; may want to see what an actual N10 owner has to report though
Works fine on my N10, only flashes white though, regardless what colour I pick.
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Works fine on my N10, only flashes white though, regardless what colour I pick.
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So I guess it's really just my N10 then.
Thanks though.
No problem, try reflash with stock images and you might get lucky. My Nexus 10 is buggy as sh** and I put it down to 4.2. It'll all get sorted out soon enough, hopefully yours is just a bug too. Hope you solve it.
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Just reset my N10 and now the notification light works again.:victory:
Guess it must have been one of the app interfering with the light.
BTW, when I tested it with a LED tester app, it can actually show green, red, blue and purple lights.:good:
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No problem, try reflash with stock images and you might get lucky. My Nexus 10 is buggy as sh** and I put it down to 4.2. It'll all get sorted out soon enough, hopefully yours is just a bug too. Hope you solve it.
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Thanks, I actually just solved it so now I am happy. haha
BTW, what do you mean by reflash with stock image and put it down to 4.2?
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Thanks, I actually just solved it so now I am happy. haha
BTW, what do you mean by reflash with stock image and put it down to 4.2?
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If I understand right, he just flashed a factory 4.2 image from Google, without any OTA updates.
You can get the factory software from the Google developer site and you can download it to your nexus device in case anything gets messed up.
By "put it down to", I mean I blame 4.2 (Android version on the Nexus 10) for all the bugs I'm having. It's a new OS, and this multiuser stuff amongst others means some pretty major changes so I expect it to be a little unstable for a while. Still a better state than honeycomb was when I bought my XOOM on launch day, boy was that a mess.
You're right about the lights, I just got it to work with all the different colours, cyan and then purple look nice
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You can get the factory software from the Google developer site and you can download it to your nexus device in case anything gets messed up.
By "put it down to", I mean I blame 4.2 (Android version on the Nexus 10) for all the bugs I'm having. It's a new OS, and this multiuser stuff amongst others means some pretty major changes so I expect it to be a little unstable for a while. Still a better state than honeycomb was when I bought my XOOM on launch day, boy was that a mess.
You're right about the lights, I just got it to work with all the different colours, cyan and then purple look nice
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Wow, I did not know about the factory software from the Google developer site. Guess i learned something new today. :laugh:
UPDATE #2
The notification light is not working again
Reset my N10 again, then performed a LED light test each time I install a new app.
Until the last app installed, the notification light was working, then after a few minutes it stops working again.
So I guess it's not really caused by 3rd party apps.
So I ask again, has anyone had problem with their N10's notification light?
Still hoping that it's a bug instead of just me having a defective unit.
Thanks again!
I'm having the same issues. Sometimes the LED seems to be working, others it's not. I installed LED tester and again, sometimes it works fine and others not at all. I have tried to spot a pattern to see what causes it to stop and start and have drawn a blank - no idea. I have since installed light flow but this has not helped. Seems to me that there is either a software bug and we haven't yet figured what the trigger is, or there is a dodgy hardware batch (I hope it's the former!)
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I'm having the same issues. Sometimes the LED seems to be working, others it's not. I installed LED tester and again, sometimes it works fine and others not at all. I have tried to spot a pattern to see what causes it to stop and start and have drawn a blank - no idea. I have since installed light flow but this has not helped. Seems to me that there is either a software bug and we haven't yet figured what the trigger is, or there is a dodgy hardware batch (I hope it's the former!)
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I think I've found the trigger. If I turn the device completely off, and turn it back on with the charger plugged in, notifications work. If I turn it back on with the charger unplugged, notifications do not work.
Other things I have tried which made no difference included factory reset and factory reflash.
Can some other folks see if their behavior matches mine? I have a replacement device being shipped to me, but if this is a software problem I'd rather not swap hardware. I'm very curious to hear if there are any devices that have a working LED under both boot up scenarios.
I think you are right. LED notifications were working ok when I had a freeze in google now. I restarted (on battery) and tested the notifications - no LED. I plugged in the charger, restarted the system and retested - LED working again. Looks like we have a workaround and a confirmed software bug rather than a hardware fault.
I'll test when I get home, but, I've only ever noticed the light when my tablet is plugged in, so it could be the same for me too. Shouldn't be a major problem, will get fixed in the next update as long as Google are aware.
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I'll test when I get home, but, I've only ever noticed the light when my tablet is plugged in, so it could be the same for me too. Shouldn't be a major problem, will get fixed in the next update as long as Google are aware.
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I'm not entirely sure, there are people who are claiming that their LED works 100%.
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I think I've found the trigger. If I turn the device completely off, and turn it back on with the charger plugged in, notifications work. If I turn it back on with the charger unplugged, notifications do not work.
Other things I have tried which made no difference included factory reset and factory reflash.
Can some other folks see if their behavior matches mine? I have a replacement device being shipped to me, but if this is a software problem I'd rather not swap hardware. I'm very curious to hear if there are any devices that have a working LED under both boot up scenarios.
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Just tried this but still nothing.
Called Google today and they are sending me a replacement.
Ok, this is ridiculous.
Just unplugged my N10 and now the notification light is working.
So apparently it's working randomly.
Hopefully my replacement device works 100% of the time.
BTW, are replacement devices new, or refurbished?
Hi there,
Is there a workaround or a root function to enable Always On listening for 'OK Google' while the screen is off/AOD?
It is really bugging me but I cannot see a workaround already posted.
Thanks!
dancooper93 said:
Hi there,
Is there a workaround or a root function to enable Always On listening for 'OK Google' while the screen is off/AOD?
It is really bugging me but I cannot see a workaround already posted.
Thanks!
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Can Tasker achieve something like this? I have only returned to Android after a 3 years break, any advice is much appreciated!
dancooper93 said:
Hi there,
Is there a workaround or a root function to enable Always On listening for 'OK Google' while the screen is off/AOD?
It is really bugging me but I cannot see a workaround already posted.
Thanks!
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OMG. Just set up Google Assistant and enable Voice unlock. Just explore your phone.
srdjanLeo said:
OMG. Just set up Google Assistant and enable Voice unlock. Just explore your phone.
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I have that setting enabled. It works on the lock screen where you can swipe to unlock, but not on the darker lock screen, where it shows the time and the outline of your notifications.
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OMG. Just set up Google Assistant and enable Voice unlock. Just explore your phone.
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I have enabled them options. It works on the light lockscreen, where you can scroll your notifications and have the 2 icons in the bottom corners.
It does not work on the darker lock screen, or the Always On Display screen, where it only shows the time and the outline of notifications you have.
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I have enabled them options. It works on the light lockscreen, where you can scroll your notifications and have the 2 icons in the bottom corners.
It does not work on the darker lock screen, or the Always On Display screen, where it only shows the time and the outline of notifications you have.
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Works here as it should. With AOD and without. Are you rooted? If you are try other ROM. If you are not, try reflashing stock firmware with Odin or with Side Sync or whatever Samsung kies is now called.
srdjanLeo said:
Works here as it should. With AOD and without. Are you rooted? If you are try other ROM. If you are not, try reflashing stock firmware with Odin or with Side Sync or whatever Samsung kies is now called.
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I am not rooted. I heard if you root you can only charge your battery to 0%?
Okay, I will have a look into reflashing if that'll fix it.
Are you rooted?
dancooper93 said:
I am not rooted. I heard if you root you can only charge your battery to 0%?
Okay, I will have a look into reflashing if that'll fix it.
Are you rooted?
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Same for me Dan, works after you swipe but not from AOD, every tutorial I have seen says the same, has to be "open" before it will work.
Bixby will unlock from the AOD screen if you set that up, hope that helps
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Same for me Dan, works after you swipe but not from AOD, every tutorial I have seen says the same, has to be "open" before it will work.
Bixby will unlock from the AOD screen if you set that up, hope that helps
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What do you mean 'open'?
I have Bixby set up, which I just use to open Google now, not ideal, but it is a workaround nonetheless!
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I am not rooted. I heard if you root you can only charge your battery to 0%?
Okay, I will have a look into reflashing if that'll fix it.
Are you rooted?
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I am rooted. With custom ROM, NOTE 8 Port.
Charging works as it should, OK Google trigger works as well. I really don't have any problem.
srdjanLeo said:
I am rooted. With custom ROM, NOTE 8 Port.
Charging works as it should, OK Google trigger works as well. I really don't have any problem.
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It works for you because you are using a Note 8 ported ROM. Because Samsung enabled this feature on the Note 8. It will not currently work on the stock S8 ROM. Some people seem to be in a server side test to enable this feature though.
Okay, I see.
Does charging not stop at 80% for you because you are rooted?
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It works for you because you are using a Note 8 ported ROM. Because Samsung enabled this feature on the Note 8. It will not currently work on the stock S8 ROM. Some people seem to be in a server side test to enable this feature though.
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It was working for me on Bat Stock ROM and it is S8 ROM. I never used stock ROM so I can't say anything about that, I rooted my device and flashed custom ROM before even setting it up after unboxing.
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It was working for me on Bat Stock ROM and it is S8 ROM. I never used stock ROM so I can't say anything about that, I rooted my device and flashed custom ROM before even setting it up after unboxing.
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I forgot to quote you, sorry.
Question:
Does charging not stop at 80% for you because you are rooted?[
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I forgot to quote you, sorry.
Question:
Does charging not stop at 80% for you because you are rooted?[
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It stops. But there is a workaround if you have Snapdragon version. Mine is Exynos so it is as Samsung set it up.
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It stops. But there is a workaround if you have Snapdragon version. Mine is Exynos so it is as Samsung set it up.
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I am now rooted
What Note 8 ROM did you use?
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What do you mean 'open'?
I have Bixby set up, which I just use to open Google now, not ideal, but it is a workaround nonetheless!
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I meant "open" as in on lock screen re your above post, the screen after AOD, sorry for any confusion
Same here works after you swipe but not from AOD, every time tutorial I have seen says the same has to be "open" before it will work.
It's best to think of the always-on display as "Screen Off", which is why OK Google doesn't work on stock ROM. That's standard Android procedure to avoid draining the battery by always listening for voice commands.
At one point, Google Assistant was able to listen when the screen was off, so long as the phone was being charged. Unfortunately, that feature disappeared at some point in the past half year or so (which caused me some confusion when it stopped working and I could no longer find the toggle).
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It's best to think of the always-on display as "Screen Off", which is why OK Google doesn't work on stock ROM. That's standard Android procedure to avoid draining the battery by always listening for voice commands.
At one point, Google Assistant was able to listen when the screen was off, so long as the phone was being charged. Unfortunately, that feature disappeared at some point in the past half year or so (which caused me some confusion when it stopped working and I could no longer find the toggle).
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That's not true. It still works on a Google Pixel running stock Android with the screen off and not charging. You never had to have it plugged in or charging for that to work. Samsung is the ONLY Android phone I know of that OK Google doesn't work with the screen off.
Source: I've owned the Nexus 6, Nexus 5x, the Nexus 6P, the Pixel XL, a number of Galaxy phones, and a few Motorola's and a couple LGs.
Things ive tried:
1.Ive tried Xposed Modules for disabling it on other Huawei phones it did not work.
2. In root directory went to sys/devices/gpio leds /red & green or something like that. I changed the values to 0 for both and it disables it temporarily until unplugged & back in. (Its a pain to do this everytime,)
3. Light manager & light flow. Neither work.
Madvane anybody help plz. I use my device in the dark often.
Also the Red charging LED is considerably more bright thsn the green LED. Making it a real pain using when charging. Its brighter than the screen.
Have you tried Xposed GravityBox module?
It can disable charge LED on my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 which is running LineageOS/Nougat, so maybe worth a try to see if it works on the XT .
divineBliss said:
Have you tried Xposed GravityBox module?
It can disable charge LED on my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 which is running LineageOS/Nougat, so maybe worth a try to see if it works on the XT .
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Just tried Gravity box. None of its features work AFAIK. I tried different features no avail. im stock B180 from madvane then i flashed magisk myself. Oh well.
This issue has come up before, but never resolved for XT as far as I can recall.
WifiGhost said:
Just tried Gravity box. None of its features work AFAIK. I tried different features no avail. im stock B180 from madvane then i flashed magisk myself. Oh well.
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This issue has come up before, but never resolved for XT as far as I can recall.
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Well that sux. Im minda getting annoyed with tinkering and ****ing with this thing. Its good tho. Just want LineageOS at this point
Pigs might fly before you see a custom ROM for the XT since Huawei won't release source code for the phone other than the bare minimum requirement by Google for Huaweis usage of Android.
Maybe cover the LED with black tape or don't use it at night when charging the phone .
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Well that sux. Im minda getting annoyed with tinkering and ****ing with this thing. Its good tho. Just want LineageOS at this point
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Pigs might fly before you see a custom ROM for the XT since Huawei won't release source code for the phone other than the bare minimum requirement by Google for Huaweis usage of Android.
Maybe cover the LED with black tape or don't use it at night when charging the phone .
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No i know another way of disabling it temporarily. Until i unplug and plug back in. So i use that way.
If a config file edit works, just spitballing here... perhaps using tasker, automagic (my personal fav), macrodroid, or another similar app to edit the file upon being plugged in would work. There's several file manipulation plugins for tasker (which also work on automagic, macrodroid, locale, and others), and if all else fails you can use command line.
It's a little more involved, but I can't imagine any reason it wouldn't work. .