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[Q] How to root the S4 with no OS?

So I rarely ever root my android devices. Recently bought an S4 AT&T variant (SGH-i337) and felt to locked, so I rooted. Everything was fine, until I mistakingly deleted the system files. This ended up making me lose root as well. So now my phone won't boot, but I can somehow get into TWRP recovery mode. Problem is its not rooted and I can't flash any rom. I don't have a PC easily accessible. So I would like to know if there is a way to root through command line. I am able to upload files onto the phone via adb. Any help would be much appreciated.

Flash super su-busybox in your recovery. Do you have a nandroid you can flash.
Ps, you don't need to be rooted for twrp. If you have a nandroid that's what I'd flash to get your system back.

jd1639 said:
Flash super su-busybox in your recovery. Do you have a nandroid you can flash.
Ps, you don't need to be rooted for twrp. If you have a nandroid that's what I'd flash to get your system back.
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You beat me to the punch. Agreed.

jd1639 said:
Flash super su-busybox in your recovery. Do you have a nandroid you can flash.
Ps, you don't need to be rooted for twrp. If you have a nandroid that's what I'd flash to get your system back.
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Just to make sure I understand you, nandroid is the backup I originally made right? Unfortunately I don't have access to my computer from where I am so I can't get it. I am curious as to how twrp didnt get erased after I stupidly deleted the system. So with the nandroid it shouldn't give me the samsung system warning about unauthorized files right? And I appreciate your input by the way!

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avaldez31890 said:
Just to make sure I understand you, nandroid is the backup I originally made right? Unfortunately I don't have access to my computer from where I am so I can't get it. I am curious as to how twrp didnt get erased after I stupidly deleted the system. So with the nandroid it shouldn't give me the samsung system warning about unauthorized files right? And I appreciate your input by the way!
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Nandroid would be the backup you did in twrp. Usually it would be on your sd card. I'm not sure what you have on your computer. Twrp isn't erased because it's on a different partition than your system partition.
In twrp, do you have any files when you click on restore? Those would be the nandriods

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Nandroid would be the backup you did in twrp. Usually it would be on your sd card. I'm not sure what you have on your computer. Twrp isn't erased because it's on a different partition than your system partition.
In twrp, do you have any files when you click on restore? Those would be the nandriods
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Ahh, yes. I have that, except I backed it up on my computer instead because it took up a lot of room. I won't have access to my computer until friday night. I should be able to push that using adb right, because my phone isn't recognized any other way unfortunately. But thanks for the clarification. I will also try super user again. I tried one, but maybe I'll try it again to see if that'll work.

avaldez31890 said:
Ahh, yes. I have that, except I backed it up on my computer instead because it took up a lot of room. I won't have access to my computer until friday night. I should be able to push that using adb right, because my phone isn't recognized any other way unfortunately. But thanks for the clarification. I will also try super user again. I tried one, but maybe I'll try it again to see if that'll work.
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Superuser isn't going to do you any good. You need to flash the nandriod to get your system back.

jd1639 said:
Superuser isn't going to do you any good. You need to flash the nandriod to get your system back.
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I figured as much. You are also helping me on another post so I appreciate letting me know about odin. I've heard of it but I use unix machines. Hopefully my job can let me borrow one. I'll let you know how flashing the backup goes. By the way. How does odin work. Do I just connect my phone and it downloads the stock rom, or what?

avaldez31890 said:
I figured as much. You are also helping me on another post so I appreciate letting me know about odin. I've heard of it but I use unix machines. Hopefully my job can let me borrow one. I'll let you know how flashing the backup goes. By the way. How does odin work. Do I just connect my phone and it downloads the stock rom, or what?
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Not that easy. You'll need to get the stock firmware. I use sammobile.com for firmware. You have to register but it's free. You down load a zip file. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. That's what you'll use on Odin. Then follow this guide with the file you downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398/url]

jd1639 said:
Not that easy. You'll need to get the stock firmware. I use sammobile.com for firmware. You have to register but it's free. You down load a zip file. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. That's what you'll use on Odin. Then follow this guide with the file you downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it all turns out.

avaldez31890 said:
Thanks a lot for the advice. I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
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No problem. Hope out all works out for you. Odin is a good thing to learn. You never know when you might need it
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
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Hey the url I linked to isn't working for some reason. The Odin guide is in the i727 development forum, it's one of the stickies. It's the best Odin guide I've found.

jd1639 said:
No problem. Hope out all works out for you. Odin is a good thing to learn. You never know when you might need it
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Hey the url I linked to isn't working for some reason. The Odin guide is in the i727 development forum, it's one of the stickies. It's the best Odin guide I've found.
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Oh ok. I was able to get to the link. The firmware download link seems a bit confusing because its not readily apparent where to get my specific firmware, but I'm at work, so can't put too much time on it at the moment. I'll ask later if I have any problems. Thanks for the heads up.

jd1639 said:
No problem. Hope out all works out for you. Odin is a good thing to learn. You never know when you might need it
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Hey the url I linked to isn't working for some reason. The Odin guide is in the i727 development forum, it's one of the stickies. It's the best Odin guide I've found.
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I was able to use odin to do it. Only thing is I feel like I had an mdl but I flashed the mdb because thats all they had for 4.2.2. It worked fine. Just thought I should mention that to see what you think.

avaldez31890 said:
I was able to use odin to do it. Only thing is I feel like I had an mdl but I flashed the mdb because thats all they had for 4.2.2. It worked fine. Just thought I should mention that to see what you think.
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Glad it worked. Mdb should be fine. See how it works and if you find you're missing anything try the mdl. Mdl is a little newer. Now make sure you root it and freeze the apks that would update it to mf3

avaldez31890 said:
I was able to use odin to do it. Only thing is I feel like I had an mdl but I flashed the mdb because thats all they had for 4.2.2. It worked fine. Just thought I should mention that to see what you think.
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MDL is required in order to flash several of the ROMs here on XDA. you can get the MDL firmware here. scroll down to the bottom of the page and enter the required code to begin the download.
as jd1639 said, be sure to root and freeze the necessary apps after first boot up. keep the sim card out and wifi off until this is complete. cheers

Thanks for letting me know! But I gotta ask. I never got a clear answer searching online; what is the firmware exactly?
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avaldez31890 said:
Thanks for letting me know! But I gotta ask. I never got a clear answer searching online; what is the firmware exactly?
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The firmware is the operating system. It's like Windows or Linux.

Umm, that doesnt sound right. Im very familiar with unix, and ive never heard anyone interchangeably call linux a firmware. Online they definitely make that distinction. If you're saying that then its more like a part of the OS or connected to it somehow? If not then I really gotta reevaluate what I think I know lmao.
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avaldez31890 said:
Umm, that doesnt sound right. Im very familiar with unix, and ive never heard anyone interchangeably call linux a firmware. Online they definitely make that distinction. If you're saying that then its more like a part of the OS or connected to it somehow? If not then I really gotta reevaluate what I think I know lmao.
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Technically your right. The firmware puts the operating system on the phone

Hmm. I appreciate the clarification
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[Q] How do I stop ATT update?

First off I apologize if this is in the wrong section or has been asked before, I couldn't really find the answer I'm looking for.
So I have my S4 (4.2.2 if it matters) rooted and TWRP recovery loaded on it. I was getting the ATT update message and I kept hitting ignore or remind me latter, however I noticed last night it starts to try to install and restart without giving me an option to cancel it. I quickly remove the battery to prevent my phone from updating.
My question is, how do I stop this update when I turn my phone back on? I don't want it to update the firmware and lock my boot loader. Or am I making a big deal over nothing?
Thanks in advance

Google how to stop ota i337 xda
You're not over reacting

jd1639 said:
Google how to stop ota i337 xda
You're not over reacting
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Thanks so much.
Just one more think, I just want to make sure that when I turn my phone back on that the update won't finish installing (it was in the process of installing when I shut it off).
Thanks again for all the help.

I'm assuming that u have MDB/MDL firmware. ......Take your Att sim card out. ... u need to root your phone. ... install Titanium back up and go to Att software update app ....back up first just incase u need it to return to att and then uninstall it...... that's should stop it from OTA update
SWYPED_FROM_S4_MF3_REDVENOM

Yep, you're going to want to root and then rename or freeze those files, you found in the Google search. That will stop the update

Taking just the SIM out at this point won't help. Only way to completely stop it now since it was installing is to Odin back to MDL and start the root process.
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Hopefully it didn't already blow the qfuse.
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ted77usa said:
I'm assuming that u have MDB/MDL firmware. ......Take your Att sim card out. ... u need to root your phone. ... install Titanium back up and go to Att software update app ....back up first just incase u need it to return to att and then uninstall it...... that's should stop it from OTA update
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So not to keep asking the same question, when the sim card is out of the phone, will that prevent the update from installing?
Also to clarify, I've already rooted my phone and installed TWRP recovery. Again at this point I just want to make sure that when I turn my phone on the update isn't going to automatically finish installing before I can block the app/files
Again, thanks so much for the help, can't wait to get a rom installed and start enjoying the awesomeness

I'd follow graydiggy suggestion. Don't turn it on except to go into download mode. Flash the mdl firmware, then root again and freeze the update apps or install a custom Rom

I could be wrong but I believe the update won't apply since the stock recovery has been replaced with a custom recovery . If I am wrong Im sure somone will come in and correct this statement .

SouthernEvo said:
I could be wrong but I believe the update won't apply since the stock recovery has been replaced with a custom recovery . If I am wrong Im sure somone will come in and correct this statement .
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Won't matter

If you have a custom recovery, the update should fail the install with an error 7. However, I would still completely start from scratch by using Odin to get a clean slate without an update. You could actually use Kies and do the emergency restore. Whatever you do, do not boot the phone into the OS until it has been completely wiped by either Odin or Kies. Only download mode.
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boot into recovery and in twrp manually go erase the update.zip from cache/fota. Then wipe cache before rebooting. That, or flash the PIT file. I posted directions on how to extract the stock signed PIT file but you'll probably need someone to extract one for you since you dont want to boot to Android yet.
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Oh yeah. TWRP has a file manager. Delete the update and then boot the OS and use Titanium Backup to delete the OTA stuff
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Surge1223 said:
boot into recovery and in twrp manually go erase the update.zip from cache/fota. Then wipe cache before rebooting. That, or flash the PIT file. I posted directions on how to extract the stock signed PIT file but you'll probably need someone to extract one for you since you dont want to boot to Android yet.
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Oh yeah. TWRP has a file manager. Delete the update and then boot the OS and use Titanium Backup to delete the OTA stuff
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Sweet so by doing this I don't have to Odin back to stock?

Essentially.
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Thank you everyone so much for your help. I seem to have got it all sorted out, don't see any changes to the baseband version and still have root access.
Thanks again.

the_windrammer said:
Thank you everyone so much for your help. I seem to have got it all sorted out, don't see any changes to the baseband version and still have root access.
Thanks again.
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Glad you got it worked out. You had the A team, surge and graydiggy

a different approach w/ i537 jb4.2.2
on topic but with different variables... I'm not finding a detailed post on the best way to stop ATT update immediately after rooting the i537 jb4.2.2
Can someone link me here please?
Not sure if I should just delete the app or go the root explorer route and delete the knox file (not sure if that is the only file to remove either?)
I have compiled all my notes at: freehelpinghands.wordpress DOT com/2013/12/15/best-way-to-unlock-root-a-new-phone/
and the answer to my question above will likely be answered by the time this is being read.

[Q] hyperdrive stuck at splash screen

I've tried asking this in the q&a section on the main thread but I think I'm being ignored because I'm asking a question about the at&t version inside a Verizon thread. Idk. But I've tried installing hyperdrive rls15 and I follow the instructions on the main page for at&t and I get to where I need to reboot and wait 10 mins. Well it just stays on the splash screen. I've tried repeating the install 4 time's now amd the same results. I found a tooic saying fix permissions but it fails. I'm sorry if this has been asked already. I have looked through several different threads but I may have overlooked it. My phone baseband is I337UCUAMDL im on 4.2.2 and have twrp v2.5.0.2 as my recovery. I've also verified the md5. any suggestions?

I hate to double post but if anyone has any ideas as to why this is happening I'm going to try and redownload and try loki patch I don't know if it's needed but I will try.

motel6man said:
I hate to double post but if anyone has any ideas as to why this is happening I'm going to try and redownload and try loki patch I don't know if it's needed but I will try.
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Same problem here,
I'm going to try and install a kernel through TWRP. I've tried a fresh root / loki install, same issue.
For me, I remember having to install an AT&T compatibility pack.zip file on previous Hyperdrive releases, like RLS 10.
I tried to install RLS15 and at the very end of install, it says this:
Flashing Kernel
file_getprop: failed to stat"/tmp/aroma/kernel.prop": No such file or
directory
However, for some reason, after trying to install this new release, I was not able to restore data in TWRP from a backup of RLS 10. I was able to restore to a non-rooted backup (i don't know how), and it appears that I am not rooted anymore, and I don't think I have superuser anymore. So, I'm not exactly sure where to start.

Glad to see I'm not the only one this is happening to. Please let me know if you figure it out. I noticed the same thing but thought I seen someone else say that it was nothing.

so i redownloaded all files and nothing. tried loki patch and nothing. tried kt kernel because i seen another post with someone saying it was the only one that worked for them and nothing. im still stuck on splash screen. please if anyone knows how to fix this please let me know im desperate now. i really want to try this rom so any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks

Same here =/
Flashing a kernel before ROM didn't do anything.
I'm starting to think that we don't have Super User installed anymore, I tried re-installing some BackUps (rooted backups)
and TWRP said something like, you don't have SuperUser instyalled, want to install it? *Slide to Install* Phone quickly reboots (not showing any proof of Super User being installed in TWRP emulator) and still no effect.
When I get some time ill look into how to install SuperUser, which I thought was already put on when we root.
Have you tried installing any other ROMS with success?

Are you still on MDL? I am, and im starting to think i need to just go ahead and do the update from AT&T, and then switching over to Safestrap recovery, but i hope i can find another solution before doing all that.
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d9vabder said:
Same here =/
Flashing a kernel before ROM didn't do anything.
I'm starting to think that we don't have Super User installed anymore, I tried re-installing some BackUps (rooted backups)
and TWRP said something like, you don't have SuperUser instyalled, want to install it? *Slide to Install* Phone quickly reboots (not showing any proof of Super User being installed in TWRP emulator) and still no effect.
When I get some time ill look into how to install SuperUser, which I thought was already put on when we root.
Have you tried installing any other ROMS with success?
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I haven't tried any other roms yet. I haven't really seen any that I liked.
d9vabder said:
Are you still on MDL? I am, and im starting to think i need to just go ahead and do the update from AT&T, and then switching over to Safestrap recovery, but i hope i can find another solution before doing all that.
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I'm still on mdl. I'm going to keep looking around for a solution. Please let us know if you found a way to fix it.
Also heres a screen shot of my info

motel6man said:
I've tried asking this in the q&a section on the main thread but I think I'm being ignored because I'm asking a question about the at&t version inside a Verizon thread. Idk. But I've tried installing hyperdrive rls15 and I follow the instructions on the main page for at&t and I get to where I need to reboot and wait 10 mins. Well it just stays on the splash screen. I've tried repeating the install 4 time's now amd the same results. I found a tooic saying fix permissions but it fails. I'm sorry if this has been asked already. I have looked through several different threads but I may have overlooked it. My phone baseband is I337UCUAMDL im on 4.2.2 and have twrp v2.5.0.2 as my recovery. I've also verified the md5. any suggestions?
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Are you using Safe strap?
I was having the same problem after like 4 tries i figured out that every time I would download this it would go into the internal memory when it should have gone into the xd. I had to move folders manually. After that everything has been working correctly.

Do you know what folders have to be moved and where?
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d9vabder said:
Do you know what folders have to be moved and where?
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I created a new one on the xd card named it roms so I won't forget.

All I did was go to Mounts in TWRP recovery and mounted my microSD card and this fixed the problem.
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d9vabder said:
All I did was go to Mounts in TWRP recovery and mounted my microSD card and this fixed the problem.
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cool im going to go try it in a few mins thanks
i tried mounting both internal and external and still nothing can you go through the steps you did from start to finish maybe im missing something

Okay, so the first thing i did was mount my microSD(external sd) then a full wipe. Even though i was mounted to my sd card, i still had to navigate to my internal memory to select the zips i wanted to flash. I first installed an older release of Hyperdrive Rom, and during installation, i selected Full Wipe option again. i also added my AT&T compatibility pack.zip to be flashed right after the ROM. Also, i dont know if this affected anything, but i tried installing the T-Mobile compatibility pack on a previous attempt. I read somewhere where some1 did this and it worked for them, but it didnt work for me until i did another install of RLS15 and the ATT pack.
Hope this can help you
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UPDATE 2/5/15 How to get to 100% STOCK OA6 (LOLLIPOP) and Root!

Here is how to get to OA6 100% stock:​
1. DL Odin 3.09
2. DL stock OA6 TAR
3. Make a backup of your apps/data (TiBu/Helium/etc). MAKE SURE THE APP/DATA BACKUPS ARE TO YOUR EXT SD CARD!!!
BACKUPS (from TiBu and apps like that) PROBABLY WILL NOT WORK GOING FROM 4.4.4 TO 5.0!
4. Go into recovery and do a factory reset and wipe system/internal sd/cache/dalvik. Power off phone completely!
5. Power on into Download Mode and flash the stock OA6 tar (put it in "AP/PDA" in Odin).
**6. Do a factory reset in the stock recovery after you flash the tar (not necessary but deff won't kill ya!). **OPTIONAL
7. In "About Device" your baseband and software should now end in OA6 and Android version should be 5.0. If they are not, then you did something wrong, go back to step 2 and try a redownload, and reflash of stock OA6 tar.
**OPTIONAL: Root** ​8. DL CF-Auto Root.
9. Place in PDA/AP slot in Odin and run it.
10. DL a custom recovery of your choosing and flash.
11. Reboot to recovery and FLASH THIS (SuperSU v2.45). Now root should work reliably on Lollipop (THANKS CHAINFIRE!!)
12. Download and install MOAR v6.0! **If you do this no need to do steps 13 & 14!**
13. Download and flash Knox Removal to get rid of Knox. BE SURE TO THANK TDUNHAM!
14. Get flashlight toggle as well as plenty others with THIS APP!
15. PROFIT!
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Joe0113 said:
Some people seem to be having trouble, so I thought this might help you guys out.
1. DL this stock NCB tar.
2. Take out your EXT SD Card (if you have one).
3. Flash the stock NCB tar (put it in "PDA" in Odin).
4. Do a factory reset in the stock recovery after you flash the tar (not necessary but deff won't kill ya!).
5. Reboot into Download Mode and make sure it says ROM type= OFFICIAL! If it says custom you will not be able to take the OTA.
6. Reboot, check for the OTA to "ND2" and wait for it to complete.
7. Your baseband and software should now end in ND2. If it does not, then you did something wrong, go back to step 1 and try a redownload, and reflash of stock NCB tar.
8. Re-root.
Also if someone that has SuperSU PRO version, can check if "Survival Mode" works for the GS5, that'd be awesome!
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Are there any better mirrors, that link is telling me 14-18 hrs to download? lol I could probably build their stock ROM from source faster

miked63017 said:
Are there any better mirrors, that link is telling me 14-18 hrs to download?
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Not that I know of buddy, sorry. If you do happen to find any, please let me know so I can post them in the OP.

Joe0113 said:
Not that I know of buddy, sorry. If you do happen to find any, please let me know so I can post them in the OP.
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13 hrs left . Anybody want to scp it to my machine? If so I will host it for a few months, got a cable connection but it will definitely be faster than that link.

not needed
all this is unneeded if someone would just post the update from their phone cache for those that are rooted.
miked63017 said:
13 hrs left . Anybody want to scp it to my machine? If so I will host it for a few months, got a cable connection but it will definitely be faster than that link.
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I am uploading the ncb.tar to my google drive right now and i'll post it in a new threat as soon as its up for everyone to download

I had good luck with this source...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717988

dropzone9540 said:
I had good luck with this source...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717988
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That's the one I used. Thanks gonna link that in the OP.

roadrunnrr said:
I am uploading the ncb.tar to my google drive right now and i'll post it in a new threat as soon as its up for everyone to download
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Worked good for me thanks
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Sorry if this is asking the obvious, but this will erase everything? Will I need a titanium backup or something to restore app/settings?

dropzone9540 said:
Sorry if this is asking the obvious, but this will erase everything? Will I need a titanium backup or something to restore app/settings?
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Back up what you want using titanium backup to your external sd, then follow the steps above bud
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Why the big deal???
I don't see the big deal with upgrading to ND2. Haven't read that it allows the download booster to work...lol
This what is suppose to be updated:
Google search results are no longer included in the list when using S Finder
Fixed device responsiveness when using S View Cover
Enable camera capture during voice call
Fixed alarm failure when deleting alarm
Fixed email duplication, when moving an email from original folder to another folder the email should only be viewable in the moved to folder
FYI personally like how the S finder pulled up google search stuff.

That's what I thought, thanks.
Goose0121 said:
Back up what you want using titanium backup to your external sd, then follow the steps above bud
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I was thikning the same thing. No security updates or anything, so I figured I'd wait, but there's that nagging need to be up to date!
AcE2DuCe said:
I don't see the big deal with upgrading to ND2. Haven't read that it allows the download booster to work...lol
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dropzone9540 said:
That's what I thought, thanks.
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I was thikning the same thing. No security updates or anything, so I figured I'd wait, but there's that nagging need to be up to date!
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If and when I get the notification I will not be updating. I just press and hold the notification and go into "app info" menu and disable notifications.

dropzone9540 said:
Sorry if this is asking the obvious, but this will erase everything? Will I need a titanium backup or something to restore app/settings?
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Sorry, great point. I will add to the post to make a backup of your apps/data (TiBu/Helium/etc).

I did NOT do (6) the factory reset...
I have SuperSU PRO... "Survival Mode"... SuperSU PRO did not stick...
Now on ND2, rerooted, TWRP'd...
restored via Titanium...
had to rerun SDFix...
Thanx

KaptainRandom said:
I did NOT do (6) the factory reset...
I have SuperSU PRO... "Survival Mode"... SuperSU PRO did not stick...
Now on ND2, rerooted, TWRP'd...
restored via Titanium...
had to rerun SDFix...
Thanx
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Ehh, the factory reset can only help, not hurt haha, so I will leave it in there as an option. But thank you for testing Survival Mode on SuperSU Pro. Can anyone else test/confirm this too please. Thanks guys!

Joe0113 said:
Some people seem to be having trouble, so I thought this might help you guys out.
1. DL Odin 3.09
2. DL this stock NCB tar. ----- Here is a faster/better DL mirror! Thanks to @ChaddyPaddy ----- And yet another mirror! Thanks to @roadrunnrr
3. Make a backup of your apps/data (TiBu/Helium/etc). MAKE SURE THE APP/DATA BACKUPS ARE TO YOUR EXT SD CARD!!!
4. Take out your EXT SD Card (if you have one).
5. Flash the stock NCB tar (put it in "AP/PDA" in Odin).
6. Do a factory reset in the stock recovery after you flash the tar (not necessary but deff won't kill ya!).
7. Reboot into Download Mode and make sure it says ROM type= OFFICIAL! If it says custom you will not be able to take the OTA.
8. Reboot, check for the OTA to "ND2" and wait for it to complete.
9. Your baseband and software should now end in ND2. If it does not, then you did something wrong, go back to step 1 and try a redownload, and reflash of stock NCB tar.
10. Re-root.
Also if someone that has SuperSU PRO version, can check if "Survival Mode" works for the GS5, that'd be awesome!
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Thanks for the steps!
however, that does seem like a big pain in the butt..
why don't people just wait for the new stock rooted rom of that version and just flash that?!?

eyecon82 said:
Thanks for the steps!
however, that does seem like a big pain in the butt..
why don't people just wait for the new stock rooted rom of that version and just flash that?!?
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They don't necessarily repackage the ROM with every update. I did the upgrade just to get the baseband update. Not too painful at all.
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If you read steps before hand and have a speedy internet connection. This shouldn't take more than 10-20min! Painless!

Install OTA update on rooted phone with TWRP without wiping data

Hello, I have rooted and installed TWRP in my nexus 6p and now I have received the OTA update but I can't install it. How can I install it without losing my data?
Thanks
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airmark said:
Hello, I have rooted and installed TWRP in my nexus 6p and now I have received the OTA update but I can't install it. How can I install it without losing my data?
Thanks
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Unfortunately you cant :/
Download TiBu that is the closest you can get...
If you download a custom rom that keeps it up to date, they will probably include the update and you can just flash over it. but stock rom there isnt much u can do.

airmark said:
Hello, I have rooted and installed TWRP in my nexus 6p and now I have received the OTA update but I can't install it. How can I install it without losing my data?
Thanks
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Download the Google factory image for the 6p. Use fastboot to manually flash the system.img, boot.IMG, and recovery.IMG. take the ota then reroot.
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airmark said:
Hello, I have rooted and installed TWRP in my nexus 6p and now I have received the OTA update but I can't install it. How can I install it without losing my data?
Thanks
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Go to guide, instructions there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
raul4916 said:
Unfortunately you cant :/
Download TiBu that is the closest you can get...
If you download a custom rom that keeps it up to date, they will probably include the update and you can just flash over it. but stock rom there isnt much u can do.
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Yes you can.

I did that and after rebooting I got a message saying:
Encryption unsuccessful
and prompting me to do a factory reset!

please don't tell me i have to wipe data!? quick googling doesn't seem promising...

airmark said:
I did that and after rebooting I got a message saying:
Encryption unsuccessful
and prompting me to do a factory reset!
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airmark said:
please don't tell me i have to wipe data!? quick googling doesn't seem promising...
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What did you do?

airmark said:
please don't tell me i have to wipe data!? quick googling doesn't seem promising...
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Trying to undo the last steps by flashing back the modified boot.img and TWRP.
Booting into TWRP and it asks for a password to decrypt storage!!!
Is wiping the only option??
I followed the guide religiously. What went wrong?

Heisenberg said:
What did you do?
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I followed the guide (part 10. How To Take An OTA Update If You Have Root).
Then after rebooting (before installing the OTA that is) I got a message saying encryption unsuccessful and I needed to wipe my phone. I turned it off instead and tried to restore it as it was before. Screw the OTA, I just need my phone back. I flashed back boot and recovery, is system.img or vendor.img the culprit?

Any ideas? Do I need to wipe data?

airmark said:
Trying to undo the last steps by flashing back the modified boot.img and TWRP.
Booting into TWRP and it asks for a password to decrypt storage!!!
Is wiping the only option??
I followed the guide religiously. What went wrong?
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airmark said:
I followed the guide (part 10. How To Take An OTA Update If You Have Root).
Then after rebooting (before installing the OTA that is) I got a message saying encryption unsuccessful and I needed to wipe my phone. I turned it off instead and tried to restore it as it was before. Screw the OTA, I just need my phone back. I flashed back boot and recovery, is system.img or vendor.img the culprit?
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I really don't know what went wrong here, other people have done this with no issues. In TWRP it should be able to decrypt as long as you enter the password/pin.

Heisenberg said:
I really don't know what went wrong here, other people have done this with no issues. In TWRP it should be able to decrypt as long as you enter the password/pin.
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I had a screen lock pattern, I entered the numbers that correspond to it (from what I read somewhere else, like a num keypad), no joy.
But then again, shouldn't actual booting into the system work as well? Why give this error msg?

I'm going to format then...

unless your super comfortable with ADB and fastboot, flashing things through them is never a good idea, you will screw up allot of the time. its always easier for the average user to wait for a ota zip and flash that. Or never root and accept otas.
Im not saying never use adb, just dont use it when its super important to keep your data

TheAtheistOtaku said:
unless your super comfortable with ADB and fastboot, flashing things through them is never a good idea, you will screw up allot of the time. its always easier for the average user to wait for a ota zip and flash that. Or never root and accept otas.
Im not saying never use adb, just dont use it when its super important to keep your data
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The only problem with that is even when an OTA zip is available you'd need to use fastboot to flash system etc to remove root anyway.

So I formatted, then set it up, then tried restoring my latest nandroid backup and now it doesn't recognise the pattern lock!

Heisenberg said:
The only problem with that is even when an OTA zip is available you'd need to use fastboot to flash system etc to remove root anyway.
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i meant a TWRP zip. unless im misunderstanding something, you can just flash those over your current rooted stock and be on your way
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airmark said:
So I formatted, then set it up, then tried restoring my latest nandroid backup and now it doesn't recognise the pattern lock!
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known problem, read this

Thanks for that, although at first after reading the first few posts I thought there was no solution, luckily I kept reading until here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63797741&postcount=34
I did that and it worked! so at least I got back my working phone. Back to square one (almost, I lost all my local copies of photos, with only cloud backup for the last 2 weeks or so) with no OTA installed. I may try it again at some other point or wait for a more safe method.

airmark said:
Thanks for that, although at first after reading the first few posts I thought there was no solution, luckily I kept reading until here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63797741&postcount=34
I did that and it worked! so at least I got back my working phone. Back to square one (almost, I lost all my local copies of photos, with only cloud backup for the last 2 weeks or so) with no OTA installed. I may try it again at some other point or wait for a more safe method.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-nexus6p-stock-roms-t3234067

TheAtheistOtaku said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-nexus6p-stock-roms-t3234067
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Thanks, I've just overcome the trauma and gathered the courage needed to give it another go today
So, do I have this right? If I download and flash build MDA89D ROM will it upgrade in place over my currently installed build MDB08K without losing my data? (I asked in that thread as well)
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