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Long time AT&T customer probably switching to Sprint, been eyeing the Epic..
If I get a voice call, is it possible (if I'm using a BT headset or speakerphone) to fire up a web browser on it and use that while I'm in-call? To look things up, or whatever?
If it can't do that, are there any other Sprint phones that can (EVO, for example?)
Thanks!
if i remember right, you can use data and voice only when you are connected onto 4G and WIFI, but not 3G. i have not tested this out yet to confirm but i remember reading that somewhere if i read it right. i also came from att (iphone) and being able to use data (3G) and voice at the same time was a major plus. ill have to try it out though later on my epic.
Yes u can use data while on a call only if you are on WiFi or 4g. Tested and verified.
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Well, drat. Thanks fellas. Not that I do that very often, but it does come in handy. I checked and EVO "suffers" from the same problem.
Again, thanks, that's handy to know.
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
Aridon said:
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
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Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
yeah, i experience the same thing. it's becoming pretty much a deal breaker for me, as often i am on the phone for an hour or more and am trying to look things up at the same time. no joy. plus the abysmal battery life has me glad that i am still in the 30 day window ?; i like the phone a lot otherwise. wish i could get it for ATT. i have never had problems with their service, and would love to be able to talk and surf at the same time.
On 3g only voice.
On 4g voice n data simultaneous
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remedy22 said:
Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
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+1 you can thank the iPhone and this great "feature" for the ****ty network over at ATT
Just wondering if the Epic can be used on MetroPCS like the Evo can. I recently sold my Captivate for an Evo, and I hate to say it, but I think I liked the Captivate more. Better screen and better processor is hard to downgrade from
If it's possible to flash the Epic to Metro, I would pick it up in a second.
I haven't found any search results on Google or here, so I figured there was no harm in asking.
Thanks in advance for any help or answers you might have.
From what I've read, slim to none. At least, if you plan to use the internet for anything besides web browsing with the stock browser (ie, forget anything that accesses the internet directly within an app).
The problems:
1. MetroPCS uses proxies for everything.
2. Android proxy support sucks. No, wait... that's not strong enough. Android proxy support sucks monkey balls. In theory, you might be able to build your own kernel that includes iptables support and use iptables with some handwritten helper apps to deal with them... but you'll basically be trailblazing virgin territory, and mostly on your own. Your phone is unlikely to ever work properly. Android's crude proxy support only (kind of) works with the built-in browser. This isn't kiddie stuff. This isn't even "L33t" stuff. If you're a true Linux God who works for Metro, chills with Linus once or twice a year, and has access to Metro's internal documentation (or possibly the guy who created Cyanogen, with a close friend who works for Metro), you MIGHT get it to work... eventually. Nobody less is likely to ever get an Epic to work properly on Metro.
3. Android depends on Sprint for things like network-based location service. Guess what isn't going to work on MetroPCS?
4. Did I mention that Metro is 1xRTT, and the one place where they have 4G (Las Vegas) uses LTE, which isn't compatible with the Epic?
Really, if you add up what it would cost to buy an unsubsidized Epic and 24 months of service with MetroPCS, and compare it to the cost of buying an Epic with a 24 month Sprint contract and 24 months of Sprint, it's insane to even contemplate trying to use the Epic with MetroPCS. The only reason to ever use a Sprint Android phone on Metro is if you have an old one that you'd just chuck into a drawer, and would rather give it to a needy friend or family member with MetroPCS. Buying Sprint's most expensive phone at full retail to use on Metro would be insane.
(By the way, I know this because I *was* going to give my old Hero to a needy friend with Metro).
If the evo can gain access then most likely the epic can. I'm just making this broad assumptions considering the run the same operating system with mostly all the same functions.
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i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
arvinghost said:
i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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anybody know how to get the mms working?
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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On metropcs not on sprint... Read before you post please.
is the mms working?
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is the mms working?
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
From what I remember when was with Metro (had a Touch Pro), Howard Forums are where a lot of their modding community hangs out. At least that was where all the work/discussion seemed to be going on back then. A simply google search should show the way.
The keys are internet & MMS. Internet tends to be the first thing to get unlocked, but without that MMS is hopeless. Even then MMS isn't always possible, depends a lot on the phone. In the past HTC phones were very easy to make fully function, with Samsung & LG phones being rather difficult. Also keep in mind that, as much as Metro used it as a marketing ploy, they really don't like the flashed phones ideas. They've already nearly disabled all flashed phones once by changing the passwords needed to access the web proxies.
jamice4u said:
Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
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native sprint coverage only, no roaming.
for some this may be good, for others it may be a dealbreaker.
to make mms work, you need to simply alter the mmsc URL in the ##DATA# > MSL menu and change it from Sprint's to boost's
changing the MMS url is easy for boost..same w/ making internet work... Samsung phones are CAKE to put on boost FWIW
epic 4g will only run 3g on metropcs
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
scooby dont said:
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
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Uhhh...no. The Epic has no LTE capability. Only WiMax chipset.
The epic doesn't have an lte radio, that's why it doesn't work.
If you got 3g working and mms, then its practically runnin as well as it could be on metro
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scooby dont said:
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
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You posted that on two different threads.
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This. ^ Metro does have 4G but it is LTE, unless the Wimax driver gets a software upgrade in the future, no Metro 4G currently possible. Though you can still pay for Sprint 4G service if you turn on the 4G radio and pay for a 24 hour pass for like 15 bucks.
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Even if you could get all the 3G services working properly, you could never use it as a 4G phone on MetroPCS. Epic is WiMax, Metro is LTE.
Trust me, you want the 4G. Now this is my opinion only so take it for what it is worth. From what I have seen of the existing Metro 3G network it sucks plain and simple, not just for data, but voice services as well. I have tested out the 4G network a bit in South Florida though and am duly impressed. Speed was very good, and even though I don't believe 4G is used for voice services yet, the phone I saw still had much better call performance (most notably actually receiving incoming calls).
I understand the 4g wont work but I just want to get the phone, 2g internet, mms, and texting to work. everything but 4g... how do I do this? Thanks
bumb, please really need help with this. Thanks!
Currently there is nothing you can flash to get it running on anything but Sprint.
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As far as I know, metro has 1x and 4g. There's no in between. I've watched people with 1x android and blackberry phones and their internet experience is painfully slow. Other than bragging rights, I don't see any practical or usefulness of putting one of these phones on their network. I'm guessing that if there ever was a software update for the phone, you'd have to find a version that has been hacked to work on metro. That's a lot of work for someone only to get dial up like speeds.
Do what you want. I think your money, time and effort would be better spent getting a high end android phone that's actually for metro's network and be able to enjoy all they have to offer instead of a crippled nexus s.
actually metro is beginning to roll out 3g
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actually metro is beginning to roll out 3g
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Who says? Link???
employee intel
sorry i dont have screen shots or anything of the sort..
I know there is a way.. people do it for $60 bucks off Craigslist... Just have to figure out how they do it..
Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Google how to do it with the Epic 4G...thats how I go mine on Boost. There is a youtube video and a section here on XDA in the Epic android development section on how to get data working on the Epic on boost mobile. It works for the NS4G..trust me..
as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
alnova1 said:
Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
LancerEVA06 said:
If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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Oh really? I still have my Sprint account but the NS4G isnt active right now on the account. Where I live we will not see 4G for who knows how long so thats why I went to boost on it.
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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there are no RSA keys in the nexus s. thats htc stuff. its the mac address that gets put into the system. and the ppl getting 4g via other means dont have it activated on sprint.. theyve edited the mac address to one that is valid. HOW they edited the mac is my question.
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i will agree partly with what lancerEVA has stated.. some phones have previously been activated and kinda got lost in the system for now. but i still stick with my original message... there are people that are editing the mac address manually.
on the epic this was possible using the wimax debug menus. these menus have been removed on the nexus.
Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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exactly.. people use sprint phones on boost for the best of both worlds. virgin is also a great candidate.. the $25 plan is pretty nice. tho i did just read that virgin will be getting rid of unlimited data.. well.. throttling after 2.5GB I believe. regardless.. 2 great options besides Sprint.. which is a great option compared to the other US carriers. win/win/win.
I will be getting my NS4G in the mail soon. I would love to do the flashing myself, but still looking for a guide. I have the guide on how to flash the EVO tho.
Is it safe to do software upgrades on the phone when I get it? And if I do any software upgrade after I get it flashed, will I lose my 3g or mms?
What are you getting for speed test? It shows HSPA, but not HSPA+ (I don't think?). Sacramento has good LTE according to AT&T...
(edit: if there is another thread, direct me please?)
Nexus 7 doesn't have LTE radios... you only get 3G.
Doesn't it have HSPA+? I saw the nexus 4 get like double or triple the speed on HSPA+ (but they were on tmobile...)
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Doesn't it have HSPA+? I saw the nexus 4 get like double or triple the speed on HSPA+ (but they were on tmobile...)
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Yes, it does... but your speeds may vary.
Ok just wondering ^_^
would like to compare....to see how fast it COULD go i guess. Haha. Hopefully the network will get better here.
Yeah, it could be your area. Here are some speeds I've gotten on AT&T in Los Angeles:
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Yeah, it could be your area. Here are some speeds I've gotten on AT&T in Los Angeles:
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yeaaa that's what I want to see. there is hope! haha
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yeaaa that's what I want to see. there is hope! haha
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haha, definitely! i never got those speeds on Tmobile's HSPA+, tho my device maxxed at 1.2 Ghz, if that makes a difference.
tried again on new rom, had more APN connections. tried the att LTE and it doubled the speed to about 2000kbps now. getting better! it a rural area too.
edit: now around 3000-4000kbps. much better. was barely getting into the thousands earlier.
Ah there you go, that's getting better. Despite the good speeds, the network has been annoying me a bit lately. Sometimes i will have a perfect connection, my status will show HSPA 10, with excellent signal, yet i can't connect to anything, can't load anything. I wonder if it's because it's L.A., and there are millions of iPhones and others on the network, and data-only plans don't get priority? The priority thing is my theory at the moment anyway, haha. I have never experienced this on my smartphones, but then again, this is my first experience with AT&T mobile data.
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Ah there you go, that's getting better. Despite the good speeds, the network has been annoying me a bit lately. Sometimes i will have a perfect connection, my status will show HSPA 10, with excellent signal, yet i can't connect to anything, can't load anything. I wonder if it's because it's L.A., and there are millions of iPhones and others on the network, and data-only plans don't get priority? The priority thing is my theory at the moment anyway, haha. I have never experienced this on my smartphones, but then again, this is my first experience with AT&T mobile data.
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same here, no idea on the att mobile data, could be second class customers. haha. yes, much better, i'll test in the city in a bit, hopefully it'll be a lot better. are you custom rom? running cm10.1 now, seems better. might fix some data connection issues?
Yeah, you will probably get some good speeds in the city. I'm running stock 4.2.1, but I have thought about trying CM 10.1, but not just for that reason. I think I might call AT&T later and see if I can find out about the tablet plans. I have heard about some customers not having priority, like if you are subscribed to a sister company but are running on the same network as the main carrier. I'll let you know what I find out.
I'm in Washington D.C. and these are the best ones I've gotten so far.
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I'm in Washington D.C. and these are the best ones I've gotten so far.
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That shows that you are on WiFi though.
Has anyone tried tmobile? I talked to support and they said they have prepaid plans for tablets. Might go try it out and see if I can use their service. I heard people having trouble, but that was for the regular mobile plan. Maybe the data only plan will work, and be much faster. Going in today, I'll let you know and then post results if things go well.
Cool, let us know. When i fist got the device a month ago, they said they didn't have any tablet plans all they could offer me is a wifi hotspot device.
OmG **** ATT. Tmobile FTW. Haha.
edit: if you want more info, just went into the store and asked about the mobile broadband plans. I said some people had trouble online, but It was probably because they tried their phone sim card. this is data only or something, so it worked right as i put it in the slot and rebooted. So much faster. Wow. $35 for 3.5GB. Same pricing as AT&T basically. WAY faster.
And they stay consistent too.