Hey dudes,
I had to post it! I saw the HTC One max and I don't know what to think. I am impressed.
First idea was to sell my Z1 and buy the One Max which have 3300mha battery, microSD slot and 32gb internal storage. 1.7ghz quadcore processor, which will drain less your battery, finger scanner and more..
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The only one thing stop me to choice HTC One Max over Z1, 5.9 inch screen FullHD! For me is to big but the hardware is impressive.
HTC One Max do not have a fantastic camera but I think still make a good pictures anyway.
I think is a huge challenge between this two.
What is your opinion?
Yes hardware very impressive but for me it's REALLY TOO BIG.....very good phablet anyway
cingolat said:
Yes hardware very impressive but for me it's REALLY TOO BIG.....very good phablet anyway
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Yeah, kind of tablet, good description, probably it is.
i came from a HTC One, and i prefer the Z1, it is way smoother and i hate sense...
eclyptos said:
First idea was to sell my Z1 and buy the One Max which have 3300mha battery, microSD slot and 32gb internal storage. 1.7ghz quadcore processor, which will drain less your battery, finger scanner and more..
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SD800 in Z1 is more power efficient than SD600 used in HTC ONE MAX when running the same speed. but at their current speed 1.7 sd600 vs 2.3 sd800 they use the same power according to Qualcomm. So if you really care about battery, you can under-clock your Z1 to 1.7 and it will be more power efficient than HTC chip running the same speed. Don't forget that if you switched you will downgrade the GPU as well (from adreno 330 to 320 which will have an effect on the performance and game experience)
Additionally, I think that extra 300mha can't compensate for the extra 1 inch in the screen size.
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eclyptos said:
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regarding development, Z1 issue with unlocking the boatloader was just resolved by sony few weeks ago, its like the phone was released then because no-one was interested in developing or even flashing for the Z1. Therefore, the HTC ONE MAX had more time to develop for, which might change with time, though nothing is guaranteed.
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SD800 in Z1 is more power efficient than SD600 used in HTC ONE MAX when running the same speed. but at their current speed 1.7 sd600 vs 2.3 sd800 they use the same power according to Qualcomm. So if you really care about battery, you can under-clock your Z1 to 1.7 and it will be more power efficient than HTC chip running the same speed. Don't forget that if you switched you will downgrade the GPU as well (from adreno 330 to 320 which will have an effect on the performance and game experience)
Additionally, I think that extra 300mha can't compensate for the extra 1 inch in the screen size.
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I Agree on this one.
ahomad said:
regarding development, Z1 issue with unlocking the boatloader was just resolved by sony few weeks ago, its like the phone was released then because no-one was interested in developing or even flashing for the Z1. Therefore, the HTC ONE MAX had more time to develop for, which might change with time, though nothing is guaranteed.
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Camera was fixed with Update 4.3 but issues are not solved, we still missing features when unlocking bootloader.
How is the pricing factor for you because in some markets HTC has ridiculous pricing.
In my country its $100 more than note 3 (!)
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Will the same ROMS that work on the HTC one will also work on the max ?
eclyptos said:
The only one thing stop me to choice HTC One Max over Z1, 5.9 inch screen FullHD! For me is to big but the hardware is impressive.
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if its too big then it does not matter what else it has.
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What is your opinion?
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Wait for follow up to htc one or any other in the 5-5.2 inch form factor.
IMO better wait for next flagships before jumping ship...
HTC one max is on early last years hardware architecture S600... it may not be that bad now, but 6 months down the road, you will feel quite left out...
3300 mah battery with 5.9 inch screen is not much different than 3000 mah with 5" screen, specially after the 4.3 update on Z1 which further increased our battery time 10-20%... doubt it will surpass battery life time of Z1
Finger scanner... LOL... trust me this is horse [email protected] more than half of all the Iphone 5s owners I know do not use this function... and trust me it will not work on HTC one max, you will most likely turn it off...
end of the day, like I always say, it is your money, what ever makes you happy is what matters...
If you want to go htc and don't want a huge pocket-ripping device then wait for the successor of the Htc one
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One Twelve said:
How is the pricing factor for you because in some markets HTC has ridiculous pricing.
In my country its $100 more than note 3 (!)
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Actually I fuond the Max at the same price of Z1, that's why I am so interested.
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Will the same ROMS that work on the HTC one will also work on the max ?
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Even if not, HTC always had a huge developing section and will be the same with Max.
One Twelve said:
if its too big then it does not matter what else it has.
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Probably, but the price of the Max is very attractive.
Morlock O said:
IMO better wait for next flagships before jumping ship...
HTC one max is on early last years hardware architecture S600... it may not be that bad now, but 6 months down the road, you will feel quite left out...
3300 mah battery with 5.9 inch screen is not much different than 3000 mah with 5" screen, specially after the 4.3 update on Z1 which further increased our battery time 10-20%... doubt it will surpass battery life time of Z1
Finger scanner... LOL... trust me this is horse [email protected] more than half of all the Iphone 5s owners I know do not use this function... and trust me it will not work on HTC one max, you will most likely turn it off...
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I will consider this too, no rush.
Morlock O said:
Iend of the day, like I always say, it is your money, what ever makes you happy is what matters...
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I know it's my money but the price it's make my mind but probably I should wait to next step.
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If you want to go htc and don't want a huge pocket-ripping device then wait for the successor of the Htc one
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I love my Z1, at the moment is back to Sony for repair the issue with touch screen and if I get back a fully working Z1 I don't really care to jump to HTC but the Max has something interesting, maybe if they will do same features but with a 5 inch screen or less I will go for it.
Or depending where you're based tried to get the Z1S (that Tmobile have) which is 32Gb onboard plus the micro SD slot, jammy sods.
I have to manage onboard memory, as I bought several large title games when I had the One X, which I didn't finish
The Bards Tale, GTA VC and Horn to name a few. I don't want to install all of these on my Z1 (which isn't rooted) as I'd be on low memory fairly soon
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Finger scanner... LOL... trust me this is horse [email protected] more than half of all the Iphone 5s owners I know do not use this function... and trust me it will not work on HTC one max, you will most likely turn it off...
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Biggest complaint i've heard wrt to the scanner is its located to close to the camera, its a great way to smudge the lens.
At least the apple has it on the front.
My opinion.. Max is not comparable with z1.. It shud be compared with z ultra..
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My opinion.. Max is not comparable with z1.. It shud be compared with z ultra..
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You right, I saw it and it was close to Z1 with the hardware but for the screen can't be comparable. It is comparable with ZU, Note 3 but with them will be the last I think. The screen make a huge role here.
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Even if not, HTC always had a huge developing section and will be the same with Max.
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I suspect not and no, do not assume the max will attract the same attention as the one. Wait for it to happen first.
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I love my Z1, at the moment is back to Sony for repair the issue with touch screen and if I get back a fully working Z1 I don't really care to jump to HTC but the Max has something interesting, maybe if they will do same features but with a 5 inch screen or less I will go for it.
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Exactly, the only reason you even considered switching is because you had a faulty Z1. Wait for the repair and then try for a month or so.
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Exactly, the only reason you even considered switching is because you had a faulty Z1. Wait for the repair and then try for a month or so.
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I don't have other choice. I will wait but my old HTC before he had problem with the touch screen it was 2 years old. I buy Sony after 2 month problem appear on the phone. HTC actually are a good phone but I hope Sony will repair mine.
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I don't have other choice. I will wait but my old HTC before he had problem with the touch screen it was 2 years old. I buy Sony after 2 month problem appear on the phone. HTC actually are a good phone but I hope Sony will repair mine.
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Of course Sony will repair or replace.
Why do you doubt this ?
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Why do you doubt this ?
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Because many users sent back the phone to Sony for the same problem and then they get the new device with the same problem again.
If the HTC ONE Max has the same processor as the HTC ONE, and i belive it has, i can only say, that it is NOT as quick as the Z1...
The feel you get from the Z1 is that it can do anything you can think of without any problem, the feel you get from the HTC ONE is that it is only just big enough to not bother you too mutch...
There are some nice things about the HTC ONE, my own is the Dual Sim version, and tha is really the only reason i bought it...
But to be hornest, the ONLY thing i think is better on the HTC ONE, is the two front speakers, and the Dual Sim...
All the other is Z1 leading by far...
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Im planning to get a new phone, the infuse or g2x which one should i pick...i still love my x10 (
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G2x over the infuse definetly. The dual core processor is awesome and its fast, awesome screen, and one of the best out there
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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LOL
wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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Now here is someone who knows what he's talking about....
You'd be stupid to buy an arc right now imo.
SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
Impresive responses, thank you guys!
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wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
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Ever heard of advise?
fiscidtox said:
I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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1 second faster?? lol
Where are you getting these numbers?
Also, 1 second of speed for a cpu makes a hell of a difference, one second of lag vs. one second of no lag.
It is 2-3 times more powerful and has at least double the quadrant score and linpack.
The cpu/gpu is a current gen vs. an outdated one.
You can think whatever you want, but electronics is my job/field.
The sgs2 is far more advanced than the arc.
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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precisely...
the dual core chips (MSM8660/Terga2) were already available they should have atleast kept the "Flagship" phones i.e. the Arc & Play with latest hardware and kept the rest on single core (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
BTW i already have the Arc, its a beautiful device but not really that powerful...
still like my X10 with all the dev thats going around... its challenging
I have ordered a S2 and will recive ut in about 2weeks. It. Will be my first phone that is not a sony Ericsson.
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The SGS2 has definetely some lagg. But not as much as on arc. Fanboys My next phone will be a quadcore from HTC If it comes haha!
Hi guys, i just want to ask for your opinion. I should soon have an option to upgrade to Xperia Neo and it would cost me about 100€ after i sold my x10. Do you think it would be worth it?
I would actually like the smaller screen and phone size, 4" is a bit too much for me, 3.7 could be just right.
That said, i wouldn't really use the hdmi and front camera, and with x10 getting an 2.3 update it's kinda pointless to "upgrade" wouldn't you say? The main advantage for me would be that Neo is more compact.
What do you think?
I think wait for something better, but that's just my opinion
If you put much weight on having the latest version of android, buy the Neo. If not, save your money.
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If you put much weight on having the latest version of android, buy the Neo. If not, save your money.
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We will get that soon anyway though!
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We will get that soon anyway though!
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Yes, but I meant past 2.3.3.
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Yes, but I meant past 2.3.3.
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Lol who knows how well se will support those phones though..
I'd wait a bit there are much better phones now and in the not so distant future there will be even better
Meh, the 2.3 update on the X10 shouldn't really be a factor into whether or not you go for a new phone. The Neo doesn't offer too much more for 100€.
Pros: slightly quicker, will receive updates past 2.3
Neg: Not that much smaller (still 13mm thick but reduction in width is nice)
Other: Lots of other small improvements like the screen, camera (hdmi and front cam but you said you won't use it so it's just a mild pro in this case)
A question to ask yourself is if the Neo is a phone you'll still be happy with (with current specs) in a year or two?
I would wait for something else.
thanks for the answers guys
all of you are correct and i'm not sure what to do, i'll just see when i'm presented with the option, maybe it'll be +100€, maybe less, so who knows
i know Neo is as thick as the x10 and it's not much smaller (only 3mm (119 vs 116)) but i think that because it's way "rounder" than the x10 is, it'll be more pocketable and overall easier to use, don't you think?
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A question to ask yourself is if the Neo is a phone you'll still be happy with (with current specs) in a year or two?
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Actually, the X10 is a phone i would still be happy to use in a year or two, BUT it's size bothers me, sometimes it's just a hassle to use, i don't know how some of you manage with an even bigger screen but my hands are just not built for that, and i'm not such a small guy!
So yeah, the specs of the X10 is basically everything i need in a phone, so i guess Neo should be just as good for me, i don't really think dual core phone would help that much in messaging and calling people the games i play run just fine so i'm good
only thing i'd like is Full HD recording but that's not imperative and as far as i know, no phone has that yet but i guess in a 2 year timeframe it'll be mainstream so i'll just wait for that, i don't like to spend too much cash for my phones, i got the x10 more than a year ago for 200€ which was a real steal, so i'm happy with what i got it's just that damn size
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thanks for the answers guys
all of you are correct and i'm not sure what to do, i'll just see when i'm presented with the option, maybe it'll be +100€, maybe less, so who knows
i know Neo is as thick as the x10 and it's not much smaller (only 3mm (119 vs 116)) but i think that because it's way "rounder" than the x10 is, it'll be more pocketable and overall easier to use, don't you think?
Actually, the X10 is a phone i would still be happy to use in a year or two, BUT it's size bothers me, sometimes it's just a hassle to use, i don't know how some of you manage with an even bigger screen but my hands are just not built for that, and i'm not such a small guy!
So yeah, the specs of the X10 is basically everything i need in a phone, so i guess Neo should be just as good for me, i don't really think dual core phone would help that much in messaging and calling people the games i play run just fine so i'm good
only thing i'd like is Full HD recording but that's not imperative and as far as i know, no phone has that yet but i guess in a 2 year timeframe it'll be mainstream so i'll just wait for that, i don't like to spend too much cash for my phones, i got the x10 more than a year ago for 200€ which was a real steal, so i'm happy with what i got it's just that damn size
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Things are going to change a LOT though in the next year or so, so although it may seem fine now, just wait and see...
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Things are going to change a LOT though in the next year or so, so although it may seem fine now, just wait and see...
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It will always keep changing. If you need something take it or just use what you have..
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+less width
+front camera for Video calls
+hdmi (use as multimedia player)
-upgrade from x10 will cost about 200eu
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It will always keep changing. If you need something take it or just use what you have..
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Yes but the neos specs will put you already a year behind ....
The processor is already a year old.
Why not get something that will remain forward thinking for more than a month or two
Thanks again for all your input, i guess it'll come down to how much this upgrade will cost me. I get the phones for a different price than everybody else so we'll see, until september it's x10 for me
Peace
i recomend u buy it
xperia neo has a bravia engine and the x mor sensor etc
especially its user interface
i recently bought one its awesome
I have a Desire Z and am wondering if the new Xperia pro would be much of an upgrade.
Some things I know I would love about it are hardware buttons, a hole for a lanyard strap (I've dropped my Desire Z twice and scratched it because of lacking this), also the arrow keys may be better than the touchpad too. The camera is obviously going to be way better as it's 8mp xmoor with 720p and a f2.4 lens. It's a little smaller and lighter which I would like.
Things I hope would be better and would be interested in opinions are:
Screen - I'd hope it would be brighter in sunlight with backlit led?
Speed - Think it has a better graphics cpu so should be faster?
Battery life - No idea why it should be but would hope it would be better
Negatives would be:
Sony software - probably a bit crap but cyanogenmod could work around this nicely
Memory - Less internal storage I think?
Further research has suggested performance will be about the same.
Surprised to have a 100 views and no replies. Is there no love for Sony, or do people just not want to consider upgrading from their Desire's yet?
Looks ugly to me. Plus, i doubt it will have any developement. Staying on DZ!
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Looks ugly to me. Plus, i doubt it will have any developement. Staying on DZ!
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I agree, the Xperia Pro looks really dated to me, like something from a few years ago.
Wasn't Sony in the practice of locking the bootloader on past Xperia phones, preventing ROM development? I haven't followed lately, is this still Sony's stance? If so, it sinks the OPs hopes of having CM on this phone.
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Further research has suggested performance will be about the same.
Surprised to have a 100 views and no replies. Is there no love for Sony, or do people just not want to consider upgrading from their Desire's yet?
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The Xperia Pro specs say MSM8255 CPU @ 1 GHz. So in theory, it should be a bit snappier than the G2 (but not by much). And same amount of memory at 512 Mb. So it seems to be true that its not really much of an upgrade from the G2. Xperia Pro specs seem a little weak for a phone coming out in the next couple months. Most phones are going 1.2 GHz dual core, or more; and with more memory. So no, I would really not spend my money on this as an "upgrade".
Sony phones seem to be decent. I still personally feel that HTC's physical design and build quality is the best out there. And the lack of development on Sony phones can be a real deal breaker.
Personally I'm not too bothered about the looks of a device, more things like features, weight, usability etc.
Regarding CM:
"Users of Sony Ericsson devices have been left out of the CyanogenMod experience for a while now. We are happy to announce that users will be able to enjoy a full-fledged CyanogenMod with nearly full hardware support (we are still working on FM radio) starting in our next release. You can also expect nightly builds and more instructions soon."
Sept 28th 2011
From: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/sony-ericsson-xperia-support#disqus_thread
I did swear I would never buy another Sony device after having a Vaio P that died in under a year but this is really tempting me.
Even if cm7 worked on a xperia pro, the G2 will blow it out of the water with its 2GHZ overclock!!!!!
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What if the XP could be overclocked to 2ghz too?
Plus the speed won't affect the quality of the camera / video, having hardware buttons etc.
If I was in your position, I'd wait until next year to roll over with the ~1.5-2ghz dual core lineups. At least with those I can feel confidence in that the tech isn't going anywhere anytime soon, same with core2's on PC right now. There is a point until clock speed difference becomes irrelevant (mhz gains) and it becomes more about chipsets, nm processes like they are doing with the intel core tech.
With a 1ghz, single core to boot, it's kinda like buying the last of the Q4 2010/Q1-Q2 2011 models, like getting a '10 car when the '11 have a new generation lineup, that has changed specifications and model revamps.
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Even if cm7 worked on a xperia pro, the G2 will blow it out of the water with its 2GHZ overclock!!!!!
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They are similar Snapdragon chipsets, the one on the G2 is only factory clocked at 800 MHz versus 1 GHz for the CPU on the Xperia Pro. We can get into a long discussion about the overclockability of one particular chipset model versus another, etc. For instance, there are certain makes of Intel PC processors which are reputed to be highly overclockable. But unless you have reason to think this is the case with the CPU on the G2, you have to consider the fact that the CPU on the Xperia Pro can be clocked just as high, if not higher.
Yes it CAN be overclocked as much...but will it? I dont think so, as i dont think it will get much developement now.
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My .02,
I owned a sony xperia x10, and I will never look back at sony after owning the DZ. HTC has such a higher build quality, plus gorilla glass screen.
I don't follow sony anymore but the x10 bootloader was locked down and was still locked down 9 months after release when I left it in the dust!
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Hey don't ever get this phone
I've had a mini pro and we never got the gingerbread upgrade and its stock software is so crappy
Just stay with the G2 and wait for the dreamly G3
Stewie just said that!
xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Looks ugly to me. Plus, i doubt it will have any developement. Staying on DZ!
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+1! And can't use Android without Sense. That was the reason to buy my first HTC Desire, then DZ.
Well I went from the DZ to the Xperia Pro when I read that the Xperia Pro would get full CM support.
Here's what I like about the Xperia Pro:
GPS is faster
better reception
nicer screen
better camera
lighter
front facing camera (pretty cool with skype)
arrow keys
Here's what I dont like about it:
usb connector at the top (looks stupid when charging)
awkward power button position
notification LED on the side of the phone (also stupid)
i feel that the things i dont like are more like minor inconveniences though
sure, the DZ has nicer materials but the hinge on mine got really loose and i got some scratches on the display even though i was pretty careful. also that metal on the back of the DZ looked like crap in no time because the coating started to flake off.
i thought i would hate sonys customization of android but i actually think its pretty neat. maybe i wont even install CM once its available (yeah i will ).
Interesting comparison GB and thanks for sharing. Although I'm very tempted by the XP I think I might wait for a qwerty device with a higher res larger screen. Although then I'll probably lose some of the nice advantages of the XP like real buttons and better camera.
Well damn. After getting the Note, it seems like that desire for the SGS3, HTC One X, or whatever new swanky phone with quad cores dies down when I see the lack of a S-pen on these devices. If the Note didn't exist, and if I still owned that awesome SGS2, I would have sold it to get the next powerful device like the HTC One X.
But noooo, now the only thing I look for is the availability of a S-Pen or similar device, and a screen as big as the Note. If it doesn't come with either, I can't seem to get myself to care about it. Anyone else stuck in this strange trap?
I agree with you 100%
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
i hate my note
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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Note 2 of course
Very true!
arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I love being trapped, saves me a lot of timing keeping up with all the news about newer and faster devices and having to decide which one to buy next and when. Now i just have to wait for the note2. No hurry btw, love the note a it is.
Now let's just hope no other manufacturer come out with this screen size and making my life complicated again
Sige
The Galaxy Note needs better screen drivers. The rendering of near-black pixels is awful and the S-pen is not as responsive as other devices. But I would not trade it for any other device right now.
The mobile devices are following the steps of the PCs with the MHz race, which lead to CPUs disipating 120W and needing huge and noise fans. I no longer consider the CPU / GPU / 4G radio when examining a new device.
Like in the PC world, it's OK if you're into gaming and want to load the newest games on your device, but for 90% of the people, they won't see the difference between a dual-core and quad-core. (Recently the boys from Gizmodo gave a few Ipad 2 to reviewers saying that they were Ipad 3, and they provided feedback as such).
But a quad-core CPU, multi-core GPU, has it's impact on battery, weight and running temperature. The same that happened on PCs. It stopped making sense once the CPU was dissipating 120 W.
The same for 4G / LTE / Whatever are now talking about that's 1 Gbps. What sense does make a 50 Mps connection when you're limited to 1 or 2 GB a MONTH?
At 50 Mps you can only use the connection 3 MINUTES before reaching your data cap. This is not serious people, this is just marketing buzz for people that's technically illiterate and cannot make the most simple calculations.
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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Only one I know of, some low end company.
I think everyone else was waiting to see how well the note did before jumping to bigger screens. It makes sense given the number of bad reviews the note gets.
I think now that they hit the 5 million mark, we're going to see a lot more larger phones. I'm not convinced there is a large market for the stylus though.
The only phone that meets my requirements is the Note. I liked the S2, but the Note is a much more versatile device. I'm a photographer, and the Note is a truly photographer-friendly device. My next phone will be a Note 2, and I'm in no hurry for that.
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Tegra 3 it's not a quad-core CPU, it has 5 cores. The fifth core is active when the phone is "sleeping" or with low demanding tasks, in order to save energy. Early reports indicate that One X's battery behaviour is quite good, but none official review is out yet, so it's premature to judge it (unless, of course, you're a samsung fanboy).
I'm going to get a HTC One X in the next 2 weeks, but that doesn't diminuish my urge to get a Galaxy Note. IMO, Note can't be compared to any other phone, it's on a league of it's own. If the biiiig size isn't a problem for you or the issues with the screen, get a Note. It'll do everything One X or SGIII do, only in a BIGGER way!
I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
htc one out in the wild ...hmmm..not that impressed
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/03/htc-one-s-for-t-mobile-caught-on-camera/
Just the other day when i was driving in the mud in the forest with my atv, A stick pierced my plastic shield that covers the braking cylinder. I took up my note, Took a picture and sketched on the image how the plastic was attached and what size it was. Sent the picture in like 2 minutes. Got an email back from the workshop that they have cut out that part in metal and was ready to be picked up.
So on my way home from the ATV run i picked up the piece just a couple of hours later and it fits perfectly.
That is the first time i really feelt how awesome the S pen function really was.
Now i might not have needed that part so fast, but it sure was sweet having it done so fast while driving in the woods and with such ease!
Before i even bought this phone i was like wtf do i need a stylus for, Its so Xperia X1 and that phone sucked. But i find it useful atleast a couple days a week!
Feel the same - although for me it's the screen size that keeps me from other devices. Never smaller than 5,3".
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I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
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I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
Yep, i need the Spen cause i'm an illustrator. All other phones are just phones.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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What!?!
I beg your pardon?
For all I know (I. e. Experience) HTC is well known for their tiny batteries on every device currently! And if specs don't change, even new devices too!
For me battery size and performance is a must and after the Note (screen size and SPen aside) I don't see any device capable of getting me through an entire day on a single charge with heavy use.
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after galaxy S III realized I will post my phone on ebay right away.
Like I always do.
Moandal said:
I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
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I know, isn't it ironic that the "it's too big for daily use" argument is put forth mostly by people who have never used it daily?
After almost a year of ownership I've decided to upgrade the Arc to the only other phone with a form factor and feel I like, the HTC one S.
I really wanted to love my Arc (lt15) but I was constantly battling with lag, battery life, and storage space etc. Trying new rom after new rom helped fix this to some degree but it was never perfect.
The One S is slim, has an awesome finish, a beautiful screen and camera and I'm sitting here 16 hours later with 50% battery left.
So, thank you to the Arc for being a great phone but onwards and upwards to the One S.
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there not bad but so flimsy the missis had hers for less than 2 days she dropped it while knelt down from her trouser pocket and the outer screen shattered bare in mind the missus is only 5"5 so knelt down the fone only fell like a foot at the most althow its never a good idea to drop ur fone at least with the arcs sturdyness it would have take that fall a hundred times over and laughed back
Do you like Sense, or do you think the Xperia UXP was better?
and besides isnt the htc running 4.0.3 that would be a step down software wise wouldnt it =)
I actually like Sense a lot more than the Sony UI, HTC have really done the new implementation well but as with everything, if you don't like it you can just remove it, in my case i've kept it.
As for sturdiness, well I am prone to dropping my phone and the Arc took quite a beating, lets home my One S doesn't suffer if/when I drop it.
well best of luck to u m8 my partners screen didnt, only guna cost like £40 to repair it but still alot for a 2 day old fone oh and fyi hers was the htc one X sorry not the S
I'm also thinking about upgrading to the One S. Are you content with the upgrade? Personally I'd have to pay 200$ for the upgrade - do you think that it's worth it? Is it anything that you miss about the arc having your One S for a few days now?
Xperia S it better option as compare to One S
i read all the specs of one S
it has only 16 GB internal memory with no memory card slot 8 MP camera and no HDMI port , also the 256 ppi pixel density
Xperia S is better then this specs
zohaib0001 said:
i read all the specs of one S
it has only 16 GB internal memory with no memory card slot 8 MP camera and no HDMI port , also the 256 ppi pixel density
Xperia S is better then this specs
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And then you miss out the serious specs like the 'Xperia S' running an older Qualcomm S3 where as the One S has the S4 chip set...Makes a large difference.
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And then you miss out the serious specs like the 'Xperia S' running an older Qualcomm S3 where as the One S has the S4 chip set...Makes a large difference.
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Other countries' HTC One S is sporting the Qualcomm S3 dual core SoC.
Taiwan is one for example, it is clocked at 1.7GHz.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-s-launched-in-taiwan-with-snapdragon-s3-01231207/
So Xperia S is at advantage when compared to the HTC One S S3 variant, with higher ppi and slightly larger screen to name a few.
The problem with One S is the pentile matrix on a relatively low ppi screen and the camera which using gsmarena compare picture quality tool seems to be worse than the one on the Arc. Those are the only 2 reasons why I'm still not upgrading. I don't know about real life performance difference too, I'd like the person who switched to compare, because I'm curious.
On one hand in benchmarks the S4 is a king of mobile processors at the moment offering like a dozen times faster float point processing but is it really that noticeable? Arc is relatively smooth in all it does. And that appears to be the biggest difference between those 2 phones, except of the price. I'm not sure if it's worth the price difference.
One S with Dual core Krait processor is the beast of the phones! Even beats the quad one x. Tegra 3 is just good for games only. Krait outshines tegra3 in the rest!!!
I played with an Xperia P today and it's beautiful. I actually prefer it over the Xperia S. I might have to sell my arc S and get one.
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I played with an Xperia P today and it's beautiful. I actually prefer it over the Xperia S. I might have to sell my arc S and get one.
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Im with u buddy...but im gonna wait till august... =)
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I actually just ordered the SG Note i717. I was going to go with the One s, but i didn't like how it doesn't have an external car slot. I like the idea of having all that memory on your phone, but wtf, we can't have an external card too. ppfffft that. So I decided on the note. The big ass screen will help with everything I have to do online for school, plus it can take a microsd so I'm happy, just waiting for it to get here is the dragger. I know it still has the S3 processor but the only difference noticebly is heavy heavy use or camera snap time between them, of course the S4 is faster. The next one will be as well and so on so forth. On the other hand I still can't complain about my Arc S. It's has been quite the champ after all said n done now I get like 24-50 hours battery life, just accessing my school online with zooming n unzooming all the time is annoying as hell. I might sell my arc s or just use it to, how did my roommate put it, "technologically rape" it.