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Which is the best lagfix

Which lag fix do you think is the best. ..I'm recently using one and my quadrant is 1850 but I've seen others with a score of 2080 is there a difference in lag fixes?

yokozuna82 said:
Which lag fix do you think is the best. ..I'm recently using one and my quadrant is 1850 but I've seen others with a score of 2080 is there a difference in lag fixes?
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i use the Ext2 fix by RyanZA here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751864
after some tweaking i was able to get 2790 on quadrant *note - the scores dont necessarily equate to real world speed*

yokozuna82 said:
Which lag fix do you think is the best. ..I'm recently using one and my quadrant is 1850 but I've seen others with a score of 2080 is there a difference in lag fixes?
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quadrant scores are being inflated by read/write speeds and nothing else. Any one of the lag fixes will cause apps that really heavily on read/writes to the system to lag considerably less, such as facebook, dolphin hd, and a few others. But they will all have nearly the same real world performance. I would personally avoid any lag fix that mounts a different partition (such as ext3) to the internal SD card, because the partitions are not designed for flash memory and will wear it out faster than the system already on there.
Look in my sig for the lagfix I use. it doesn't have the fastest quad scores, but like I said, you don't need them to get the real world performance.

Thread closed. You will have to decide which is the best lag fix for you.

Post Your Quadrant Benchmark Scores! (HD2)

Hey everyone. Please Benchmark using Quadrant and Post your Score along with a screen shot or picture of your score.
Also please state if you tested your phone under default stock conditions, or if you rooted and tweaked the heck out of it to get the high score you got.
You can download Quadrant. Go To Android Market and search Quadrant.
MY Score : 2799
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I am running CM 6.1 Stable and getting about 2300-2350 quadrant score (setCPU scaling between 245 and 1200). What are you running to get 2800?
Edit: Had weather bug running in the BG, now getting around 2500.

That's the highest quadrant score I've EVER seen from any first gen. Snapdragon device. What do you have it overclocked to? On my mt4g (second gen snapdragon with dedicated gpu) overclocked to 1600mhz on a deodexed, zip aligned rom, I just barely go above 2800 on quadrant.
I had an HD2 and a Nexus and never came remotely close to those numbers on any rom/kernel/clock speed combination. I've messed with and flashed many Evos, overclocked within reason, that also average literally half of that.
Since your post count is 2 and youve already opened a 'bragging rights' type thread, I'm going to have to call BS on this. Sorry, I just call it how I see it. Or hey, maybe you're just the chosen one and have a magic phone.
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I am absolutely thrilled with a score of 2500. I have been using a G1 for the past year and a half and I decided it was finally time to upgrade. My G1 was only getting about 580 with CM 6.1 (and that was an amazing score). I was debating whether to get a MyTouch 4G, G2 or an HD2 with the Android off the SD card. I was able to pick up an HD2 for $200 off craigslist and boy I do not regret it. I don't know how this phone can run Android off the SD card faster than off the nand, but I am thrilled. By the way I am using a Class 10 4 GB SD Card, if that makes much of a difference.
Only this I wish it could do is play my 720p videos without the codec getting all blocky/laggy. But that is probably asking way too much.

Is 2500 on stock clock speed? There must be some serious speed enhancements here recently, last I used a dual booted HD2 it was only in the 1300 range, same with my nexus, and two Evos. My nexus will max around 1800 with the miui rom overclocked to 1100mhz or so..Is there something special with the HD2's hardware that I'm missing or is this the norm now?
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I am using HD2ONE 0.3.4b based on CM 6.1 Stable (CM is awesome BTW). I am using setCPU to run the phone at 1190mhz clock, but it still gets great Benchmarks without. I have been using CM for about a year now on my G1. It is built for speed and memory improvements as these were necessities to keep my G1 alive and kicking up until now. I would assume anyone who can't break the 2000 point quadrant score might want to take a look at HD2ONE and CM.
PS.
Also, this is the T-Mobile HTC HD2, so perhaps the 1gb ram helps as well.

I still don't see the point in benchmarks. I used to have a build (it shall remain nameless) that got over 2400 in quadrant but the UI itself was slow as all hell. My current build (in sig) get's 1700 ish but is smooth as melted butter. I'd rather have a smooth OS than a cooked phone as well.

I'm not sure about your unnamed os but cyanogenmod is running smooth as butter
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Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.

shuntje said:
Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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I knew it had to be something to do with Android running off the SD card and not NAND, those numbers are just insane for the setups. Thank you for clearing that up sir.

shuntje said:
Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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Well it's not just a glitch. cedesmith's asynchronous data method actually does improve i/o by a huge amount. There are a few spots where the SuperRam build feels faster than the desire_hd2 and hd2one 3.4 but it's really not that big a difference. Plus the battery drain is not as good on the SuperRam.
This is one of the builds shuntje is talking about. Cedesmith's desire_hd2, running slightly overclocked at 1.19. No other tweaks.

I do not think that this result came from a gap in the program
my phone is so fast
now in benchmark >>> my socre is 2963 !!!!
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buzz killington said:
Well it's not just a glitch. cedesmith's asynchronous data method actually does improve i/o by a huge amount. There are a few spots where the SuperRam build feels faster than the desire_hd2 and hd2one 3.4 but it's really not that big a difference. Plus the battery drain is not as good on the SuperRam.
This is one of the builds shuntje is talking about. Cedesmith's desire_hd2, running slightly overclocked at 1.19. No other tweaks.
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how did u get that high io score ?
i can barley get 5k at 1.2ghz
ish i get higher score with lower oc just 1.07ghz
overall without 2d/3d 2560
cpu 5800
io 5900
1.11ghz
overall without 2d/3d 2600
cpu 6400 io 5700

civicvx94 said:
Is 2500 on stock clock speed? There must be some serious speed enhancements here recently, last I used a dual booted HD2 it was only in the 1300 range, same with my nexus, and two Evos. My nexus will max around 1800 with the miui rom overclocked to 1100mhz or so..Is there something special with the HD2's hardware that I'm missing or is this the norm now?
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I don't know the details, but recently I've noticed a bunch of people here posting quadrant scores in the 2100-2400+ range.
I score about 2000 @1.19 Ghz, but my build is quite a bit older than the new ones.
There definitely seem to have been some optimizations done in the most recent builds, especially the one by darkstone which does something like load the entire android filesystem in memory or something.
I'll have to try a newer build.

poweroutlet said:
I don't know the details, but recently I've noticed a bunch of people here posting quadrant scores in the 2100-2400+ range.
I score about 2000 @1.19 Ghz, but my build is quite a bit older than the new ones.
There definitely seem to have been some optimizations done in the most recent builds, especially the one by darkstone which does something like load the entire android filesystem in memory or something.
I'll have to try a newer build.
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Most all the big numbers come from the i/o improvements. You'll know if you see the build uses cedesmith's initrd. Using asynchronous read/write improves performance but also has a higher chance of corrupting the data file.
Just off the top of my head, these builds all are using it: cedesmith's desire_hd2, hd2one, jdms, darkstone's superram also uses it for his build.

i am using HD2ONE ROM , latest version.. my quadrant score is 2200+..
after flushing 10-15 ROMs its first time i got 2200+
i m running Radio 2.15.50.xx

yha, benchmarks are great braging rights.
ive run roms that bench silly high, but ive also run roms that bench " slow" but in real workd performance kick the crap out of the " fast" roms.
atleast some one did a benchmark from the payed version so it breaks it all down, and shows actual usefull info...

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The reason its scoring so high is because of i/o. I believe that's the wrong metric to look at because i believe i/o is dependent on what memory card you have. If you pay attention to the other scores, all of these screenshots are right on par with the nexus one 2.2+. Still awesome, but don't brag that your benchmark is uber leet, as its probably the same or close to everyone else here regardless of build.
To test my theory, load the same build on another SD card, preferably one that has a lower class (lower read and write speeds) and then run the benchmark and post results.
I will also test a build with cedesmiths initrid explained earlier and post my results
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Slow disk write speed

My Nexus 7 has recently developed incredibly slow write speeds to external memory. I'm certain that they used to be the same as most benchmarks that I've seen for the tablet, but as of a few days ago they've plummeted. Restarts don't do anything for it, and I've killed all running apps to make sure nothing was using IO excessively.
Androbench reports sequential writes are at 0.37MB/s which seem awful. AnandTech's review last month stated 8.43 MB/s for sequential writes under the exact same conditions.
Opening apps now seems a lot slower than usual as well, and I've checked there aren't any rouge CPU spikes to blame. I read on another thread that disabling USB debugging helped up IO speeds, but my problem still exists.
Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this, bar wiping the memory? I'm running unrooted stock, for reference.
Thanks!

Have you installed any new apps lately?
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miketoasty said:
Have you installed any new apps lately?
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Yeah, but I went through them all and uninstalled them. Didn't seem to make a difference. And for the benchmarks, I make sure there's no apps running in the background, Logcat output and a look at the list on "adb shell top" confirms there's nothing running.

try a data wipe/factory reset and then only load your benchmarking app. See what you get that way..

dottat said:
try a data wipe/factory reset and then only load your benchmarking app. See what you get that way..
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I'm in the same boat, exactly the same poor storage performance. I did a factory reset (latest AOSP w/ Motley kernel) and installed nothing but Androbench (didn't even add my Google account) and got these Androbench results:
Squential Read: 24.3 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1.41 MB/s
Random Read: 7.81 MB/s
Random Write 0.23 MB/s
SQLite Insert: 18.92 TPS / 15.85 sec
SQLite Update: 23.45 TPS / 12.79 sec
SQLite Delete: 22.67 TPS / 13.23 sec
Browser: 2830 msec
Market: 891.25 msec
Camera: 1404 msec
Camcorder: 1323.75 msec
Pretty abysmal overall, random write especially falls off the charts altogether. This is really sad since my N7 used to run great but recently has degraded significantly with lots of lag and ANRs.

omnikai said:
I'm in the same boat, exactly the same poor storage performance. I did a factory reset (latest AOSP w/ Motley kernel) and installed nothing but Androbench (didn't even add my Google account) and got these Androbench results:
Squential Read: 24.3 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1.41 MB/s
Random Read: 7.81 MB/s
Random Write 0.23 MB/s
SQLite Insert: 18.92 TPS / 15.85 sec
SQLite Update: 23.45 TPS / 12.79 sec
SQLite Delete: 22.67 TPS / 13.23 sec
Browser: 2830 msec
Market: 891.25 msec
Camera: 1404 msec
Camcorder: 1323.75 msec
Pretty abysmal overall, random write especially falls off the charts altogether. This is really sad since my N7 used to run great but recently has degraded significantly with lots of lag and ANRs.
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So I ended up flashing (and rooting my Nexus at the same time), and problem seems to have disappeared. Seq writes back up to 10.92 MB/s, looking pretty healthy.
Sorry I couldn't figure out what the problem was, hope you get your issue fixed!

stuul said:
So I ended up flashing (and rooting my Nexus at the same time), and problem seems to have disappeared. Seq writes back up to 10.92 MB/s, looking pretty healthy.
Sorry I couldn't figure out what the problem was, hope you get your issue fixed!
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Yeah, I did the same thing and my speeds are back to normal too. Makes me wonder if it's a kernel thing in non-stock kernels

So my quadrant score sucks because my i/o category is way low... it seems that write speeds (especially database writes) are really killing it.
When you guys say you just reflashed, do you mean just using CWM? To a new rom?
Thanks

Poor Storage Performance - Should I RMA?

I did a factory reset (latest AOSP w/ Motley kernel) and installed nothing but Androbench (didn't even add my Google account) and got these Androbench results:
Squential Read: 24.3 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1.41 MB/s
Random Read: 7.81 MB/s
Random Write 0.23 MB/s
SQLite Insert: 18.92 TPS / 15.85 sec
SQLite Update: 23.45 TPS / 12.79 sec
SQLite Delete: 22.67 TPS / 13.23 sec
Browser: 2830 msec
Market: 891.25 msec
Camera: 1404 msec
Camcorder: 1323.75 msec
Pretty abysmal overall, random write especially falls off the charts altogether. This is really sad since my N7 used to run great but recently has degraded significantly with lots of lag and ANRs.
Is it safe to say I need to RMA this device due to bad storage?

Have you tried using a different ROM? Try one like Paradigm or Paranoid Android and see if there's a difference. When I ran quadrant on some ROMs I got around 2,000 consistently for I/O but when I ran it on some others (eg. Paradigm Android, BAKED Blackbean) I scored 7,000-8,000 consistently (I also used _motley's kernel).

android1234567 said:
Have you tried using a different ROM? Try one like Paradigm or Paranoid Android and see if there's a difference. When I ran quadrant on some ROMs I got around 2,000 consistently for I/O but when I ran it on some others (eg. Paradigm Android, BAKED Blackbean) I scored 7,000-8,000 consistently (I also used _motley's kernel).
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Thanks for the suggestion. I get ~1,200 for I/O in Quadrant normally.
I installed BAMF Paradigm and my scores got much, much worse (about 1/3rd as fast across the board). I tried installing Trinity kernel on top of Paradigm and it's much better (roughly 2x standard). Unfortunately my random write is the same, which is absurdly, brokenly low.
However my Quadrant score is now ~7000... I just don't know what to believe any more :crying:

What I/O scheduler are you using?

how much space do you have left in your storage?

Using the default scheduler in any given case. And I wiped my SD Card so there's plenty of room left.
I just un-rooted and installed the factory image - the I/O performormance has largely jumped back to normal now, so I'm at a complete loss as to what's going on I'm going to take it and run with stock for a while I think.
Thanks so much for the help all!

Micro stutter and AndroBench

So I have been trying to decide if the micro-stutter I get with my LG G2 V980 is just my hyper sensitivity or if my phone has more than other people's, since many people say it is super smooth. I rooted my phone the other day so that I could side load the tethering app and change the CPU governer from ondemand to interactive using Trickster MOD. I did not benchmark my phone before this, which I should have, but subjectively my does appear faster.
However, I still have some micro-stutter. Not too bad, but there none the less. This got me thinking of TRIM. I know that a new phone that has most of its memory free should not need to be trimmed yet. But for ****s and grins I downloaded lagfix and ran it anyway. It is really too early to tell if it made much difference, but the little I have used my phone since then have been promising.
And this got me thinking - what if some people had trim issues with the phones when they got them? We don't really know what LG has done with some of these phones before we got them, right? I downloaded AndroBench form the play store and ran a microbenchmark. From what I understand, the Random Write speeds are the ones that usually cause a ton of lag/micro stutter in phones. I did not run it before I ran lagfix, but I thought I would post my results now and ask others what they are getting. Especially people that think they have 'stutter' issues. Can you run an AndroBench micro benchmark and post your results?

Mine is attached. Verizon, stock cleanrom, rooted, interactive governor, daily scheduled lagfix.
Edit: Ran the test 2 more times, and got 7 MB/s and then 14 MB/s sequential write.

My results are terrible compared to yours :S but i have no stutter or lag problems, so im a bit confused here.
Btw im on g.lwarnes stock rom v1.06 and his 3.01 beta 2 kernel, also ive used the lagfix and it didnt matter at all.
Cant upload a screenshot so the results are seq read 85k seq write 9.79k random read 12.75 and random write 0.6

Sometimes g2 slow down a bit but nothing to worry about