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T-Mo Galaxy S3 gimped; using MSM8260?!?!?

According to several news sources today, in response to questions regarding LTE compatibility, T-Mobile has stated that their GS3 uses an MSM8260 SOC rather than the MSM8960 everyone else is getting. For all intents and purposes, the MSM8260 is a Snapdragon S3. This is contrary to the A15-derived Snapdragon S4s (MSM8960) in all other US GS3 handsets.
If what I wrote above is true, then the T-Mo version of the GS3 is a gimped device - more like a refreshed and slightly larger GS2 with an HD AMOLED screen.
Since I'm a newb with less than 10 posts, I can't provide external links to my sources. However, Google "tmobile GS3 LTE MSM8260" and you'll see the CNET article I'm referring to.

I did read they decided not to use LTE on the GS3, I haven't heard anything about a diff processor though. This is CNET, not the most reliable source...

It does seem unlikely to use different SoC with the early hackers indicating that AT&T and T-Mobile are ROM-compatible, but I guess somebody will have to step in with some real proof.

I really hope I'm wrong with my previous assumption.
I forgot to ask, but could anyone with a T-MO GS3 post a screen shot of your processor specifications using a diagnostic application? I'm really curious to know whether or not the T-Mo handset is using an S3 or S4 SOC.
If it's an MSM8260 (S3), then I'll stick with the GS2 for now.

on android system info the board is listed as MSM8960. This info is taken directly from the phone itself. Also, Samsung and T-Mobile contradicted themselves in the article. T-Mobile spokesmen have been wrong before.
One last thing....believe only some of what you, see and none of what you hear.....
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can't post a screenshot yet, but mine says ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v71) Dual-Core

Babydoll25 said:
on android system info the board is listed as MSM8960. This info is taken directly from the phone itself. Also, Samsung and T-Mobile contradicted themselves in the article. T-Mobile spokesmen have been wrong before.
One last thing....believe only some of what you, see and none of what you hear.....
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Thanks for the reply. I'm happy to know that I've been proven wrong in this matter.
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me when I read that article - afterall, why would T-Mobile insist on using the SGSII SOC instead of the newer Krait SOC again in their flagship phone?
Edit: Just saw your screen shot. Thank you again.

pheewwww, you guys are giving me a heart-attack with all these "bad" news today.

Lol I heard it was a different soc model number vs the lte version but the cpu and gpu are the same. No scorpion core.
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pheewwww, you guys are giving me a heart-attack with all these "bad" news today.
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Sorry about that. We were discussing the matter of LTE on the T-Mo forums when I noticed that the CNET article stated the SOC in use was an MSM8260. Thanks to this forum, that misinformation was quickly corrected.

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What app is this?
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Stop, my heart couldn't take the pain. I didn't want to come over here and ask that question.

avataranjie said:
What app is this?
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Android System Info from the Market
http://doandroidsdreamofelectricsheep.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/android-system-info/

You're welcome.
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It could only be two possible SoCs, MSM8260A (Krait w/ Adreno 225, but no LTE), or MSM8960 (Krait w/ Adreno 225 and LTE).

Hunt3r.j2 said:
It could only be two possible SoCs, MSM8260A (Krait w/ Adreno 225, but no LTE), or MSM8960 (Krait w/ Adreno 225 and LTE).
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Good thing its the latter this phone is LTE enabled for when T-Mobile launches their own LTE network
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avataranjie said:
Good thing its the latter this phone is LTE enabled for when T-Mobile launches their own LTE network
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57460125-94/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/
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GT-i9505 vs GT-i9305

Worth upgrading??
I think this SGS4 just an evolution and not a revolution. I know that the level of the camera we have great evolution ... and there are more 2s sensors ... but it worth the astronomical value of 799 €? ... otherwise we are talking about two phones with powerful Quad-cores with 2GB ram, communications with LTE and a design virtually identical ...
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...

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I'm in portugal, too
I agree, mostly
I'm coming from an i9300, though
can't wait to buy the phone, but I'm getting it carrier locked to TMN which will be selling for 649€
I don't think it's worth upgrading tbh, the 9305 is good enough for now
maybe when the Note III comes out, yes

Petermira said:
Worth upgrading??
I think this SGS4 just an evolution and not a revolution. I know that the level of the camera we have great evolution ... and there are more 2s sensors ... but it worth the astronomical value of 799 €? ... otherwise we are talking about two phones with powerful Quad-cores with 2GB ram, communications with LTE and a design virtually identical ...
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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So just don't get it
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The S4 is definitely not a revolution. So I'm not sure an upgrade from the S4 is really worth it, unless you can easily afford the new one. There are many aspects improved on the S4, but no most-have in my opinion.

andybrid said:
The S4 is definitely not a revolution. So I'm not sure an upgrade from the S4 is really worth it, unless you can easily afford the new one. There are many aspects improved on the S4, but no most-have in my opinion.
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S3 uses a very dated GPU. Samsung had been using the Mali-400 since the S2 and it's horrible. I'm glad they stopped using it now. Power VR or Adreno 320 are much better. So yes. It's a very good upgrade.
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Coming from S2 it´s a revolution

Mittaa said:
Coming from S2 it´s a revolution
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Which is why I have just preordered! Would I if had an s3? No, probably not
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The 5 reasons why I upgrade to the GT-I9505 are:
1. From 720p to 1080p!
2. From 4,7" to 5,0" inch!
3. From 8MP to 13MP!
4. Way better GPU!
5. Longer support from Samsung!

Petermira said:
Worth upgrading??
I think this SGS4 just an evolution and not a revolution. I know that the level of the camera we have great evolution ... and there are more 2s sensors ... but it worth the astronomical value of 799 €? ... otherwise we are talking about two phones with powerful Quad-cores with 2GB ram, communications with LTE and a design virtually identical ...
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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Then get the i9305.

barondebxl said:
Then get the i9305.
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I already have the GT-i9305...
Ok, maybe i will by the S4 but only the GT-i9500 version with Exynos octa processor...now, in Portugal, Samsung will just debut the GT-i9505...I will be waiting for the exynos version

Why ask others? This is pretty simple...
1. It will have a much better screen quality.
2. It will be faster.
3. It will have a better camera.
4. It will have better battery life.
5. It will get updates faster. (plus all the new features it comes with)
Now, are you willing to spend the extra money to get those? That is the question.
Edit: Exynos, if community roms are important to you you probably want to stick to Qualcomm since it will have way better support.

ptscon said:
Why ask others? This is pretty simple...
1. It will have a much better screen quality. <- are you ****ing kidding ? Is the same ****ing screen
2. It will be faster. <- yes, this one is true
3. It will have a better camera. <- So..... 4 =/ 4 ? Dude, it's the same sensor
4. It will have better battery life. <- It's supposed to be 25% more efficient, true
5. It will get updates faster. (plus all the new features it comes with) <- Really ?
Now, are you willing to spend the extra money to get those? That is the question.
Edit: Exynos, if community roms are important to you you probably want to stick to Qualcomm since it will have way better support.
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I'm not sure if you're serious, kidding or just missed that this thread is about S3 vs S4. Not Exynos vs Snapdragon S4

wich one will have better support from whole xda devs ?
octa or snapdragon ?

nowy57 said:
wich one will have better support from whole xda devs ?
octa or snapdragon ?
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Snapdragon.
1- Because it's open sourced and well documented.
2- Because most devs are from the US, which is only getting i9505 (for now).

ptscon said:
I'm not sure if you're serious, kidding or just missed that this thread is about S3 vs S4. Not Exynos vs Snapdragon S4
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Oops. Too many numbers, already turned me crazy. I don't know what to choose between S4 si everything staying with i9xx looks like an S4 lol
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Petermira said:
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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Exynos version will come in august to Portugal
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cebs said:
Exynos version will come in august to Portugal
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Great news man!!! I hope it`s true:highfive::highfive:

cebs said:
Exynos version will come in august to Portugal
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Who told you that?
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[Q] my AnTuTu score good or bad?

Hi all
sorry if I have posted in the wrong forum.
basically I got my Samsung galaxy s4 i9505 on tract the other week and its amazing, now I have the flipboard app installed now I keep seeing things about Antutu, which upto today iv never used. but now I have.
Its given me a score of 24686
I just want to know if this is a good or bad score.
I understand each device will vary I suppose but if I can improve the score then why not without rooting etc
thank you hope somebody can help me,

arnie2012 said:
Hi all
sorry if I have posted in the wrong forum.
basically I got my Samsung galaxy s4 i9505 on tract the other week and its amazing, now I have the flipboard app installed now I keep seeing things about Antutu, which upto today iv never used. but now I have.
Its given me a score of 24686
I just want to know if this is a good or bad score.
I understand each device will vary I suppose but if I can improve the score then why not without rooting etc
thank you hope somebody can help me,
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Its a decent score I get abt 28000 on my octa core i9500 version
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Yeah my 9505 usually lies between 24500 and 25500

Sounds about right, I got 25558 on my I-9505

27525 - i9500

If owning a smartphone would rely on synthetic benchmarks?
You'll never going to be happy with your purchase...everytime.

titus1 said:
If owning a smartphone would rely on synthetic benchmarks?
You'll never going to be happy with your purchase...everytime.
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It's nothing but feeling a bit happy and proud about your device
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benchmarks are so "gingerbread"
get the "feel" of the phone man.
if benchmarks are to be believed, you should get exact ( or even similar) scores in benchmarks. benches are NOTHING. the octa core smokes Antutu, but even it has mild occasional lags.
I just use benches to show off my phone a little.
you got one hell of phone. now uninstall the useless benchmark apps and enjoy.
jokin a bit, hope yaa don't mind.
regards,
Achyut.

my s4 gave 26505
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Got about the same score on my i9505 op.
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GT-I93oo said:
my s4 gave 26505
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Very bad!!!
Today:
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i9505 32GB

Your going to see a lot of variations with your score depending on the temp of your cpu. Our devices run hot and usually throttle under extended heavy loads. The KT kernel throttles at 70c, not sure about the stock kernel. My phone got 24,500 stock and actually sometimes scored lower after I OCed the cpu and gpu. Turns out the problem was throttling. After cheating at cooling my cpu down to 20c in the fridge I got a score of 27,000 :silly: obviously I don't keep my phone in the fridge all the time. The only time I run into throttling issues is when I'm benchmarking, I get the full 2.05ghz under normal use.

I'm a little confused, I have the SHV-E300S(octacore) version and my scores are 23000 - 24000. I think that this scores are a little bit low.
How can improve the scores?

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Which rom do you have?
And which kernel?

pls stop, it's just numbers. just feel the phone :cyclops:

Not bad but not as high as it should be.
It sound be around the 27000s ranges even for the Octa S4
Btw, here is my bone stock i9505 with 4.3 getting 29000s.
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Strange I get around 28000 on my i9505 not overclocked at all.
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skeamznz said:
Strange I get around 28000 on my i9505 not overclocked at all.
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Clear everything in task manager and you will hit 29000s

I cleared everything with task manager and this was the results.
I repeat that the results are lower than media of the SHV-E300S.
Can anyone help me?

Note 3 features confirmed by Sammobile

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Holy cow!
3 gigs of RAM?
I was thinking of keeping the Note 2 for a while but this is a game changer.

If it really has 3 gigs of ram, and the screen is larger without making the body much larger, especially making too much wider (I had some trouble with the original note...) I think I'll buy it Maybe... haha. I love my note 2 soooo much!

I'll watch the size first. But i bet no FM radio too.

Ev0d3vil said:
I'll watch the size first. But i bet no FM radio too.
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Why is sammy dropping the FM radio ?

Can we merge all the rumor threads? They're all equally as reliable as a politician telling the truth.

EarlZ said:
Why is sammy dropping the FM radio ?
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Well their rationale is that people use streaming more than traditional. From what I remember reading.
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If the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 will have an octa-core processor, I will have no doubt of buying it. :highfive:

Yo!!!! Am definitely upgrading to note 3!!
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nope.
they are just assumptions.
note 3 will probably come out in september and there are 3 full months, samsung can change anything in that time.
the current assumptions are as follows-
5.99" screen probably 2xxx by 1xxx resolution
13mp camera
octa-core @ 2ghz or snap dragon 800 and @ 2+ ghz
3 gigs of ram.
that's all that has been most rumoured yet

What about the battery ? 4000mah?

Im hoping for snapdragon 800 @2.3ghz
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It's only worth considering if it comes with 32GB internal storage as standard.

Simone said:
Holy cow!
3 gigs of RAM?
I was thinking of keeping the Note 2 for a while but this is a game changer.
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Don't know mate, but to me it's not a huge upgrade! I mean if you look back, Note to Note 2 had 100% upgrade, so in that sense Note 3 should have 4 GB RAM.
Anyway, I'm quite happy with 2 GB so far, haven't seen any apps get closed or anything, yet.
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I really hope it does come with the snap dragon 800
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The most interesting rumor I read was that of a 3x optical zoom on the camera. Don't forget, the note 2 was supposed to have a 13 mp camera originally but they couldn't get a good enough supply so stepped it down to match the s2's camera.

3 GB RAM is nice - but not particularly important for me. But what really intrigues me is the battery - hope they pack 4000mah battery now, that'd make me seriously tempted And since it's FHD it's likely to be pentile.
What really worries me though, is the thinner bezels making the OLED more prone to cracking - I mean I never thought anyone would report S4 having cracked OLEDs by just keeping it in pockets - having gorilla glass and all that. I really suspect this is due to thinner bezels.

5.99 is a real mistake. ...i am glad because that way i wont spend money
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I skipped s4 because I already have monster note 2 in my hands. I am very ery happy with it, now I am very much excited for note 3. I really believe that Samsung will bring their A+ device for note 3.

aguiamaster said:
5.99 is a real mistake. ...i am glad because that way i wont spend money
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Although 5.99 screen but if they maintain the phone dimension, then its not a real mistake to me
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Battery life

So here we go again a new flagship and a lot of reviews said the phone had an impressive battery life. What is your experience? Post bbs or screenshots

I got the phone yesterday, trying to test it out myself today and get results!!!

First full charge is encouraging.
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I'm getting drain from android os and android system, since I'm not rooted I can't pin point what's causing it.

uptill now i find the battery is not so good.... g900W8

ysr84 said:
uptill now i find the battery is not so good.... g900W8
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Wait till two to three charge cycles are complete. The battery life normally increases.

How much time it is taking to fully charge
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More screenshots guys. Keep them coming

SM-G900A -- AT&T US model:

karmuh said:
SM-G900A -- AT&T US model:
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What kind of usage was this? Mainly browsing? Videos? LTE or Wifi?
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msavic6 said:
What kind of usage was this? Mainly browsing? Videos? LTE or Wifi?
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Almost all on WiFi -- browsing, installing and setting up a bunch of apps, listening to music/podcasts for roughly an hour or so, texting, phone talk time around 20-30mins...things of that sort.

karmuh said:
Almost all on WiFi -- browsing, installing and setting up a bunch of apps, listening to music/podcasts for roughly an hour or so, texting, phone talk time around 20-30mins...things of that sort.
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Pretty impressive for one of the initial charges of the device and this type of usage.
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Is it snapdragon version or octacore version
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Pretty impressive for one of the initial charges of the device and this type of usage.
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Definitely! I was impressed myself, especially since I came from an iPhone that had a depressing 1400mAh battery. In the time it took for one full discharge on my S5, I would have needed to do 1.5-2 charges on my iPhone :laugh:
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Is it snapdragon version or octacore version
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Mine? Snapdragon SM-G900A

How is the battery back up guys for exynous version mine is not gud
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Much better than my GS3. 30% at least.
And Charges about twice as fast.
Not kidding.

Which one do you have snapdragon version of exynous version.and how much time its taking to fully charge
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Getting outstanding battery life on my g900a. Once someone figures out root for it and i get greenify working properly it should be even better.

Siting at 8H 25M 11S on Battery. AT&T S5. The thing that is killing my battery the most, Gear Fit Manager at a19% then Android at 16% and Screen at 14%. I have only charged 2 times so far since I bought the phone on Sunday, Ran it down to 9-10% yesterday but it took forever to charge. In over two hours of charge time it went from 10% to 37%. My iPhone 5 would have been 100% or close to it. Never had android phone before (really enjoying it) so not sure if this is normal or it will get faster the more charging cycles.
Thanks