Hi guys. Sorry if I am asking a stupid question. I would assume that accessing a webpage between a 4yr old laptop (my pentium 800) and a U1000 would probably be the same.
This is of coz not the case. the U1000 take a couple of seconds (somethings tens of seconds) compared to a laptop.
Why is this so? Is it me or is there something I can do to make my web-surfing experience a more fruitful one?
thanks.
p.s. i have already moved the slider to better performance instead of battery saving.
I think it's down more to rendering speed than network speed.
the latest opera mini 4 beta 2 on esmertec jbed java is much faster at rendering pages than either pie or native opera.
it does have some issues though
thanks for the clarification. now i better understand why we just cannot compare mhz..
While the browser performance in Honeycomb seems to have been improved, the Xoom's browser still struggles to render some pages. The main forum index page at xda-developers is a perfect example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php
That page kills the usability of my Xoom's stock browser -- scrolling on that page is quite unpleasant.
But of course, the same page renders buttery smooth on an iOS device. So why is that? 2D GPU acceleration is apparently enabled in Honeycomb, so why does a dual-core tegra 2 device with a gig of ram have such a hell of a time rendering web pages? Has google commented on this? Do any roms or tweaks address this issue?
Go down to the bottom left of the page and select xda classic you will see a world of a differance with scrolling and typing.
The honeycomb browser has poor standards implementation. There is a good review below.
http://www.sencha.com/blog/motorola-xoom-the-html5-developer-scorecard/
Just wanted to know..
The archos 101 g9 has a 1.5 omap. 4 CPU that claims to browse 50% faster... just thinking I can oc my tegra 2 tablet and speed the browser up as well...
It improves rendering and javascript speeds, but won't affect network speeds.
Theoretically, yes..... In actuality not really that noticeable. I have mine OC'd to 1.4 GHz and it doesn't really seem to browse the web faster than if it was at 1 GHz, but then again the whole system does feel faster at 1.4 GHz.
One thing I found speeds up browsing (especially in Dolphin HD) is to turn off javascript, but its has the slight drawback of some sites not working properly since they require javascript.
No it cannot. RAM is more of a tool for slightly faster net speeds than CPU is.
The javascript has to be executed and the webpage has to be rendered, which takes cpu cycles.
More cycles/sec = faster page loading = faster browsing.
Soooo.. . Lol yes?? Hehe
i was wondering the same..
i have 2 APS flooding my house, but sometimes opening a link takes long..
im using Opera mobile
maybe ill try dolphin or a hard reset
Not to be funny, but for regular web browsing it will be in no way limited by the tegra cpu. Overclocking will not speed up your web browsing, if this is what your overclocking it for you will be sorely dissapointed, as all you will be doing is introducing heat and battery drain.
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Try using opera mini instead.
so why are they saying the omap 4 CPU will browse 50% faster? Is it just a gimmick?
brando56894 said:
The javascript has to be executed and the webpage has to be rendered, which takes cpu cycles.
More cycles/sec = faster page loading = faster browsing.
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Sorry but no. That is not the way it works. Refer to my previous statement.
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so why are they saying the omap 4 CPU will browse 50% faster? Is it just a gimmick?
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Yep.
Faster than what? Faster than the last Android Archos tablet? Since that was a piece of slow junk, so being 50% faster than that with a better CPU is understandable.
Just saying "50% faster" doesn't mean anything when you have no frame of reference.
lol it says 50% faster than tegra 2 CPU...
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No it cannot. RAM is more of a tool for slightly faster net speeds than CPU is.
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As much as you're right, you're wrong.
Any bottleneck on the pipeline will slow down general browsing speeds.
As far as the 50% claim goes, it sounds like both a spec boost and a software tweak (drivers, etc.)
konceptz said:
As much as you're right, you're wrong.
Any bottleneck on the pipeline will slow down general browsing speeds.
As far as the 50% claim goes, it sounds like both a spec boost and a software tweak (drivers, etc.)
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+1. It's probably a combination of a faster clock cycle (+ a better PowerVR GPU) and full ARMv7 instruction compatibility (including NEON) that gives 50% better performance in some tests.
Real world differences will be, as always, less than advertised.
Digiguest: An overclock may help to render pages faster if the CPU is the bottleneck. If memory is the bottleneck then a larger VM allocation will help. More RAM for an Android tablet actually probably has little bearing on the page rendering speed as each application runs within a Virtual Machine that allocates a certain amount of memory to play with and adding more physical RAM won't change the VM parameters.
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Hehe you guys are so smart... a simple yes or no would have been fine lol... but thanks! I think I'm gonna get the Toshiba a thrive untilled the transformer 2 comes out..after reading about archos ill stay away..
Digiguest said:
No it cannot. RAM is more of a tool for slightly faster net speeds than CPU is.
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no.....just....no...jesus no...
fakeyfakerson said:
no.....just....no...jesus no...
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Sometimes it is. Run Chrome on an intel i7 750 with 256MB of RAM and tell me if it seems slow to you.
It's all about bottlenecks.
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On some pages definitely yes. Sunspider gives better result on overclocked machines so pages with a lot of JS will definitely act faster.
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Sometimes it is. Run Chrome on an intel i7 750 with 256MB of RAM and tell me if it seems slow to you.
It's all about bottlenecks.
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of course, but the question he was answering was:
can an overclocked tegra 2 browse the web faster?
and his response is just incredibly wrong. CPU bottlenecks web browsing waaaaaay before ram, unless you're specifically looking into browsing and switching between ~10 tabs at a time on your tablet. even then i'd still prefer a faster CPU over any amount of ram
This is a new Google browser benchmark to measure JavaScript engine’s performance.
Details here: https://developers.google.com/octane/benchmark
You can run the benchmark here:
http://octane-benchmark.googlecode.com/svn/latest/index.html
Please post your results for Note 10.1 and other devices who might have.
From what I see, mobile SoCs still has a long way to go before they can match desktop processors -- nothing surprising considering power efficiency requirements of mobile SoC.
1565 on Note 10.1 in Google Chrome, 1802 (but one test failed) in original browser.
6516 on i7 laptop.
4900 on X2 AMD desktop (but some test failed to run).
Some test got very low note which resulted in such differnce - Splay for example only 495 while i7 have got 10'700. But on original browser it has got 1200 so it was quite random...
Still, I think 4-5 slower than i7 is still very good result.
I'll try to test TF101 too, but its out of order now (because I tried to install JellyBean on it and WiFi doesn't work).
I've had the Honor 7 for almost a month now and it's a great phone, I have noticed one or two issues in regards to lag though. If I am in a Skype call the Skype app shows noticeable lag when scrolling through contacts. Twitter also lags when scrolling through the twitter feed but once images have loaded it is smooth. Is anyone else having similar issues?
I'm not completely satisfied with the performance either. I think the cpu is being too reserved. It uses big.little which means its 2 quad core processors rather than a true octacore. They can't work together, its either the big or little that's running things.
In normal day to day tasks it will be using the little quad core a53 1.5ghz. This is a midrange chip and doesn't even run full speed scrolling through pages etc. In some situations I've noticed better performance on my Redmi 1s.
I'm feeling it a bit laggy too. Nexus 5 with custom rom(euphoria OS) was blazing fast with "worse" CPU.
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I'm feeling it a bit laggy too. Nexus 5 with custom rom(euphoria OS) was blazing fast with "worse" CPU.
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At least its not as bad as the z5 compact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
In my opinion these big.little cpu's need to go. It puts low end cpu's to do every day tasks and the difference is noticeable. The only thing they are better at is benchmarking. My guess is chipmakers (ARM) failed this year. The best they could come up with is the a57 but it runs so hot and consumes so much power that putting it on its own was impossible. Hence the 'big.little' which would allow high benchmark scores but have most tasks run on the slower chip. Mediatek or a snapdragon 801/805 are better. I think Honor can improve things a bit in updates though.
Another weird issue is gmail crashing. For example when opening email from xda app just closes. Older versions and clearing app data didn't help.
Funny you mention the N5 as having just put Android M on it, it's flying and I was spending some time tonight playing around and wondering how it can be so quick at everything despite being so old (relatively speaking) and using very old SoC.
Doze has also made the battery much better, so while it's not as sexy as modern devices it is showing up more than just the Honor 7.
Of course, I'm using my H7 day to day and the N5 stays at home, but it's still impossible to ignore.
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The lag doesn't really bother me since I don't use twitter on my phone much but I just found it odd since there's no lag when scrolling on YouTube wine there's a 1080p video playing. Maybe they'll fix it with updates (that will hopefully come out faster then we might expect lol)
I've faced lag in tapatalk & Google now widget consistently. This scroll stutter does come up quite frequently even in other apps
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Is anybody experience phone restart when using Google's indic keyboard?
anyone else notice how much more the play store lags after the update?