Pure Android on i9505 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey, I have some questions:
1. Can you install pure Android which comes with i9505G on i9505?
2. How long will Google make these updates for Galaxy S4? 18 months like with other Nexus devices?

1. Yes but only through custom roms.
2. Samsung push the updates to the s4 google edition. Who knows for how long.

Okay, is it easy to install ROMs and kernels on this device? Is it easy to brick it?
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It's easier than HTC in general. Cf auto root did it for me. Odin flashing is very easy. I'm running echoe KitKat google edition and I'm very happy with it!
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RossFixxed said:
It's easier than HTC in general. Cf auto root did it for me. Odin flashing is very easy. I'm running echoe KitKat google edition and I'm very happy with it!
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That is good to hear. Is there any custom ROM which has working IR blaster? I read about it from Cyanogenmod wiki and apparently, it doesn't work on CM.

Nearly all of them do. Just check out their descriptions. I'm using echoe rom, love it.
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Nearly all of them do. Just check out their descriptions. I'm using echoe rom, love it.
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I read about something called knox which Samsung is putting on newer firmwares. What does that do exactly? Does it make flashing custom kernels and roms impossible, if I don't want to lose warranty?

Check out the knox sticky in this forum.
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Galaxy s4 to Google Edition S4

Hello
is there anyway you can flash the stock image and recovery from a GE s4 onto to standard s4? so will pick up updaes etc..?
see this done on HTC One... wondered if it can be done? or does it have to be via a Rom?
thanks
would like to know the same
Not yet. Bootloader needs to be unlocked to transform S4 in S4G
Not possible at the moment, you can have the google edition roms though but again no OTA's and same partition sizes
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thanks for comnments guys, is any teams working on unlocking the bootloader for the GE s4?
cityuk said:
thanks for comnments guys, is any teams working on unlocking the bootloader for the GE s4?
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Standby while I research every Xda thread and provide you with an answer...
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chickentuna said:
Not possible at the moment, you can have the google edition roms though but again no OTA's and same partition sizes
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Really a little confused about this answers...
We all can flash a custom recover on the S4's, previously rooted, so this by reading some explanations on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212992
Means that the bootloader is already unlocked. Or not?
F.
Bootloader does nothing. Janjan 4.2.2 ge rom ftw
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wow, are you sure htc one can transform into htc one google edition?
if thats true then i think s4 can do it too... just need it time

Mdl vs. Mf3???

Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.
Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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gho5t82 said:
Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed
It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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How to run stock android 4.3 on at&t s4

Hi i got stock android running on my tmobile s4, someone made a rom taken out of gpe s4 with everything untouched.. But i cant find a rom for at&t s4 for a friend of mine..stock 4.3 from gpe s4 , closest i found was a slim version.
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I'm not sure about completely untouched GE roms, but kangabean is an amazing GE rom I recommend that.
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1wwefan07 said:
I'm not sure about completely untouched GE roms, but kangabean is an amazing GE rom I recommend that.
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+1 Kangabean
euklid said:
Hi i got stock android running on my tmobile s4, someone made a rom taken out of gpe s4 with everything untouched.. But i cant find a rom for at&t s4 for a friend of mine..stock 4.3 from gpe s4 , closest i found was a slim version.
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Of course there is an untouched GE 4.3 ROM. Just download it from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395030
It's from the i9505 forum, but it is the same phone, and works fine. I am running it myself.
Just make sure you already have a custom recovery on the i337 first. I prefer CWM because it auto loki's your ROMs for you.
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Of course there is an untouched GE 4.3 ROM. Just download it from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395030
It's from the i9505 forum, but it is the same phone, and works fine. I am running it myself.
Just make sure you already have a custom recovery on the i337 first. I prefer CWM because it auto loki's your ROMs for you.
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Do i need to do anything else before flashing this rom?? Like csc fix
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euklid said:
Do i need to do anything else before flashing this rom?? Like csc fix
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Give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343513

Can a new S4 from ATT carrier be rooted?

Saw a good deal for a new Galaxy S4 for $79 + $70 trade in on my old HTC One. So only $10 for the New S4: )
But reading around people saying the New S4 firmware has a hard lock on it and not easy to root and only one or two roms working on it?
I was gonna root it and put the Google Play Edition ROM on it but some say that's not possible on new S4 from ATT carriers now?
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You should do some searching but the s4 with mf3 can be rooted. I know they're not going to have the the new 4.3 update on it yet. But I'd say get the s4 and use the kingo root method.
Use this guide for rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
Use this guide for your ROMs
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Root doesn't mean unlocked. You can be rooted and still have a locked bootloader.did you read before posting? I'm not trying to come off rude.
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re: AT&T Rooting
Zorachus said:
Saw a good deal for a new Galaxy S4 for $79 + $70 trade in on my old HTC One. So only $10 for the New S4: )
But reading around people saying the New S4 firmware has a hard lock on it and not easy to root and only one or two roms working on it?
I was gonna root it and put the Google Play Edition ROM on it but some say that's not possible on new S4 from ATT carriers now?
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You will be able to root the AT&T Galaxy S4 easily, almost everyone here in this AT&T S4 forum
already has rooted their phones and have flashed custom roms without any issues.
Good luck!
MF3 can be rooted but you can't flash a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM) If you're asking if you can root the device and flash a custom rom, it all depends on your AT&T store. Try and go to your AT&T store and before they unbox the S4 and start activating everything, make sure you tell them you want a phone with the firmware MDL on it. If they don't have any with the firmware MDL, tough luck. If you get an S4 with MF3, you can only root.
Not only root.
Root it and install Safestrap to install most TW based ROMs that run 4.2.2
Most important is to lube your eyes and
READ/SEARCH all info to do with your build or you will be a victim of the I bricked my phone cause I can't read.you can Google anything to do with your phone and ad "xda" to the search and you will find what you are looking for.
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Last two phones I had, the Nexus 4, and Note 2 on ATT, were easy as pie to root and install recovery, and that was it, you were done forever, just flash a ROM + Kernel, reboot and bam you had a fresh new ROM to enjoy, and was so easy and fast to do get it installed, was a no brainer. What happened in the past year with phones being so locked down so hard, where you can't just do that anymore ?
Wish all Android phones were as simple as a Nexus to flash rom's on. But I don't want the Nexus 5 phone with tiny battery, I like bigger batteries or removable, and more storage options, etc...
Yes it can be rooted using the external sd card method. Its actually easy to do.
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Yes it can be rooted using the external sd card method. Its actually easy to do.
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The is an even easier method called kingo root that was previously stated.
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The is an even easier method called kingo root that was previously stated.
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Thank you. So I can root it no problem, but then it's a matter of very select ROM's available due to my firmware ? And none of them can be 4.3 based ? Which the S4 doesn't even officially have yet, but not even the Google Play Edition ROM that is 4.3 can be installed on this firmware, only the older 4.2.2 version ?
Ok, so I root with using 'Kingo' method
Then install the safestrap .apk, and install that
And then install only a ROM on the provided list, which will all be 4.2.2 based only ? Still rather have any of those, than just stock TW out of the box unrooted
All correct
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Zorachus said:
Thank you. So I can root it no problem, but then it's a matter of very select ROM's available due to my firmware ? And none of them can be 4.3 based ? Which the S4 doesn't even officially have yet, but not even the Google Play Edition ROM that is 4.3 can be installed on this firmware, only the older 4.2.2 version ?
Ok, so I root with using 'Kingo' method
Then install the safestrap .apk, and install that
And then install only a ROM on the provided list, which will all be 4.2.2 based only ? Still rather have any of those, than just stock TW out of the box unrooted
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You can put Google play edition ROMs on but not the 4.3 as stated in the guide. The only real problem for me is that it seems to use more battery than tw roms. And you don't have all the features as your tw based ROMs on the gpe ROMs. Some tw ROMs are just as fast if not faster. Fast speeds and great battery life can't go wrong with that.
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You guys recommend a new S4, or the LG G2 ?
Thing is the G2 development is very sparse, and cases and accessories few and little for the G2. And what about resale down the road in a year or 18 months ? Which will fetch better trade in money the S4 or G2 ?
Thanks.
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Samsung apps on custom roms

Is there anyways to get Samsung apps on a custom ROM? I find that while the 4.4.2 Roms generally work great, that lack of SApps and especially the one hand functionality, really reduce how great these Roms can be.
Or is the best bet just to root Samsung's Roms?
Thanks in advance.
Never heard of the leaked 4.4.2 kitkat Samsung rom? ???
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pakure said:
Never heard of the leaked 4.4.2 kitkat Samsung rom? ???
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I think he is referring to AOSP 4.4.2 ROMS.
For the OP, I don't think it is possible, and believe me, I am in the same position as you are, whether use the boring Samsung ROM with all those features or to use nice looking 4.4.2 ROMs with no Samsung features
Why wouldn't it be possible? Aren't the Samsung apps just apks that can be extracted? Or is it all based only on touch wiz?
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Its based on the touchwiz framework. Yeah, it's apks and you might be able to install them but they might either not start up, work properly or not be able to install.
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Apks require TWiz framework to work which is impossible to get in AOSP ROMs. AFAIK, MIUI is the only custom ROM which supports SApps.

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