Ok so after the fiasco of dealing with the first 7 that came as a 16 gig unit and not a 32 I got the replacement. Now this one is having issues right out of the box, granted it's a refurbished box...lol. The new one will not boot unless you plug in the USB. You can press and hold the power button till your blue in the face the thing will not boot. Plug in the USB and the Google logo pops up and it boots right up. Once it's booted the power button will wake the unit just fine so it obviously works. This was right out of the box I have since let it update in hopes the might solve it but no. When it arrived it was fully drained with no battery life could that have done anything? I popped the rear cover and checked both the ribbon cable for power and sound as well as the power plug, both were in place and tight. Here is another weird one that has me wondering. When you do plug in the USB (if it's turned off ) while holding the volume down button it will go right into bootloader without having to hold the power button.
So now is this a possible problem with the power button,mother board,or possibly the usb port? Could it be a bootloader/ firmware/software issue? I guess I will be having to send back a second RMA.
Edit....Since I forgot to mention it. It will work normally once booted. You can unplug it and it will function properly till you power it down at which point you have to plug it in to get it to boot. You don't even have to hit the power button it will just start. It's like when the battery drains and it powered down on it's own then when you plug it in it auto boots, it's like that.
Its battery problem.....It cant give enough energy to start the whole system.
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No once it boots it will run just fine without it being plugged in. You just have to plug it in to get it to boot then you can unplug it do what ever you want. If you power it down then you have to plug it back it to get it to boot. You don't even have to hit the power button it will just start.
I plug mine to usb to boot it up intonthe bootloader once it has completely died and I let it sit in recovery for a couple of minutes to get some juice in it so it can boot up normally. I can't get into the recovery fromnthe bootloader without it being plugged in to usb first, itll just sit at the google screen
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@Will Badger
Search here (in the N7 forums) for
"fastboot oem off-mode-charge"
If someone used the refurb tab for a car install, that would explain why it boots as soon as you apply power to the tablet. It is a toggle that you can turn on/off.
Thanks but that didn't work. Hit the command and it said it was already enabled. So I disabled it then re-enabled it and still no go on booting up with just the power button.
Wil Badger said:
Thanks but that didn't work. Hit the command and it said it was already enabled. So I disabled it then re-enabled it and still no go on booting up with just the power button.
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I thought I was sugesting that if it was on, (1) you turn it off (0). From the way you replied above I can't tell if you actually tried it in both possible states. Maybe you did, but I can't tell from how you wrote that reply above.
Anyway, I'm not positive that's what is going on ... just throwing it out as a suggestion as it seems closely related to the symptoms you describe.
“fastboot oem off-mode-charge 0” makes the unit power on the instant its connected to AC. “fastboot oem off-mode-charge 1” returns to normal state. it was already 1. So I put it to 0 then back to 1 but it didn't help. As much as this is going in a car and 0 would be better I still want a fully functioning tablet as it will be removable. So when I gave it the command it told me that charge mode was enabled. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm going to try flashing a factory bootloader on it and see if that helps maybe the current one is corrupt or something.
“fastboot oem off-mode-charge 0” makes the unit power on the instant its connected to AC. “fastboot oem off-mode-charge 1” returns to normal state. it was already 1. So I put it to 0 then back to 1 but it didn't help. As much as this is going in a car and 0 would be better I still want a fully functioning tablet as it will be removable. So when I gave it the command it told me that charge mode was enabled. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm going to try flashing a factory bootloader on it and see if that helps maybe the current one is corrupt or something. And thanks for the suggestion I was thinking there might be some type of software issue since it works fine once booted. So it has to be something with the bootloader not recognizing the button.
Well flashed a factory image and bootloader and still no change...it's getting RMAed and that will be the second one. Hopefully third time is a charm.
Wil Badger said:
So I put it to 0 then back to 1 but it didn't help.
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Again, this reads like you never tested it in the other state - you toggled it back into the same state that it was already in to begin with without ever testing it in the alternate configuration. (At least that's the way I am parsing what you wrote both times).
I poked around a little just know - I couldn't get a crystal-clear interpretation of whether "1" or "0" causes the boot-on-power application at the USB connector.
Anyway, if you didn't try it, it might be worth 2 minutes of your time.
Apologies in advance if I am mis-reading what you said.
Tried in both modes. 0 is for powering on with USB and 1 is normal charge mode.
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My power button has been acting funky lately, i thought it was just a software issue until i switched my battery today and realized it was hardware. now i cant turn on the phone.
Is there anyway to power on the phone via fastboot or some usb command? i need to get some files off the device before the device swap but i dont know how to turn it on without the power button =[
any ideas?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nexus+one+power+button+malfunction+xda
First page is my post about sending in my nexus one with the power button issue.
iamwhoamnot said:
My power button has been acting funky lately, i thought it was just a software issue until i switched my battery today and realized it was hardware. now i cant turn on the phone.
Is there anyway to power on the phone via fastboot or some usb command? i need to get some files off the device before the device swap but i dont know how to turn it on without the power button =[
any ideas?
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One of the bloggers on Droiddog.com had the EXACT same question. Yes it's possible... read her method here:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/06/nexus-one-power-button-failure/
Basically:
Plug the phone in– USB or AC works fine.
Wait until the charging light comes on.
Remove the battery, while leaving the phone plugged in.
Replace the battery.
After about 3-4 times, the phone should boot.
i need to know if i can turn it on via usb command, ive already called in for the device swap.
uansari1 said:
One of the bloggers on Droiddog.com had the EXACT same question. Yes it's possible... read her method here:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/06/nexus-one-power-button-failure/
Basically:
Plug the phone in– USB or AC works fine.
Wait until the charging light comes on.
Remove the battery, while leaving the phone plugged in.
Replace the battery.
After about 3-4 times, the phone should boot.
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it worked!!!!!!! fourth time it started right up. thank you so much you saved my life
if you take it out and wait till right after the charging light goes off then put it back in it seems to start up a couple seconds later!
Glad you got it up and running. Sorry I misunderstood the question.
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I am stuck at the yellow triangle. It keeps rebooting and it wont let me connect it to the computer. I need help!!!
cashman2419 said:
I am stuck at the yellow triangle. It keeps rebooting and it wont let me connect it to the computer. I need help!!!
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Boot into TWRP... then follow my other directions.
From the op of KFU thread:
Known Tricks
•If you end up stuck at the yellow triangle, in KF Utility select Boot Normal, wait for it to say <waiting for device> and then press and hold the power button 20 seconds until the fire turns off, then when its off turn it back on. This sometimes happens, I have yet to find a clean solution
•If you end up stuck with a yellow triangle, do not EVER unplug it. Leave it plugged in. Check the windows drivers to make sure it isnt showing as "kindle" again. Fastboot is different and can cause this.
That fixed my issues in fastboot when I was trying to install TWRP the first time. If that doesn't work then [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20945694&postcount=506]check out this post[/URL]
I cannot boot into TWRP because the kindle keeps shutting off because it is dead. It isn't read by the computer.
Plug it into electrical outlet and leave it alone for three hours.
While waitin for three hours assess your problem and find the solution. Search.
Then execute solution after fire is charged.
Will it charge even when it keeps turning on and off?
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Will it charge even when it keeps turning on and off?
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Yes it will keep charging.
It did not charge... At least I don't think it did..
When you plug it in do you get a solid color or is the light flashing?
When it's plugged in to the wall and the light is solid you should perform a hard reset by holding power for 20 seconds. This will fully shut down your KF and it will accept the charge
If by flashing you mean turning on and off by itself than yes, it is flashing.
Please help..I'm losing it
Same problem here. It does not seem to charge when plugged into either wall or computer. The green light flashes on and off repeatedly and the recovery screen (yellow triangle) just comes on and off (it eventually just goes black while the green power light continues to turn on and off)
in order to help myself I have done a few things
1: KFU isnt working.
I updated the drivers through KFU
I tried to change bootmode to "normal" and it hung on "waiting for device" I tried hard reset here and nada
2: I tried booting into normal fastboot 4000 through command prompt and hung on "waiting for device" tried reset..nada
So just like the poster above I cannot get into TWRP as the computer never truly recognizes the KF. This all happened when my wife turned on my kf and didnt know what the TWRP was and hit the power button for recovery. It loaded back to the stock kindle set (I had been using CM7) and since then I've been eating FUBAR soup as it doesnt work
Seriously..im pulling my hair out here...any help? I'd try to return the kf to Amazon and save myself the pain but I think we know what would happen when they plug it in and see the flashing triangle...lol
1. Plug your kindle in to the wall for 3 hours like someone mentioned previously (it will charge) The issue with the device being in a boot loop has nothing to do with the kindle fire not charging, this is perfectly normal if you have modified system files and the system can't boot the Android OS. It is also normal to never get past the Yellow Triangle if for some reason that you have changed to FastBoot mode. (Some people may be misinformed thinking that FastBoot does what it sounds like it does (boot fast - not the case), that's how this usually happens)
2. After you know the kindle has been charged for at least 3 hours on a known working power outlet. Press and hold the power button on the kindle for 20 seconds or longer until the device powers down completely.
3. Press the Power button to turn the kindle fire back on, and be ready, as it comes back on press the power button as soon as the Yellow Triangle (firefirefire) logo first appears. Press it up to 5 times rapidly. If you get to TWRP then you can relax. - If you get to the Yellow Triangle and you have pressed the Power button a few times but it is still stuck in a boot loop before giving up try one more time to shut down completely and reboot while pressing Power button rapidly.. You want to be sure to do this before the Yellow Triangle screen goes dim .
4. When you are in TWRP you should be able to use KFU or ADB. You may want to change the boot mode if it is not already to "Normal" if you are having this problem with "Normal" then try to reflash the Kindle with a recovery image or a new ROM.
Hopefully you can at least get to TWRP by following this, so that you can at least flash the kindle with a different update.zip. Good Luck
Charged like you said...still no charge. Flashes on and off and when you pull the power cord goes to black like its dead and will not turn on at all whether you hold it down or just push it...
Never had a problem like this before, could always at least get it to turn on or off not a mix of both lol. Thanks for the help...any more ideas on how to get it where I can at least get it into recovery?
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Charged like you said...still no charge. Flashes on and off and when you pull the power cord goes to black like its dead and will not turn on at all whether you hold it down or just push it...
Never had a problem like this before, could always at least get it to turn on or off not a mix of both lol. Thanks for the help...any more ideas on how to get it where I can at least get it into recovery?
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I'm experiencing the same thing.
I'm still confused... are you guys trying to charge it while it is in the boot loop?
Have you tried turning it off (holding down the power button for 20-30 seconds until the screen and the power button go dark and stay dark)? And then plugging it in? I wouldn't expect you to see the firefirefire triangle if the device is off while charging.
The other thing that you might want to look into is the factory cable. Supposedly charges the device and can access it w/o any battery power at all - if I understand that thread correctly.
The point is you can't turn it off, it's dead. If you try to put it on charger either through wall charger or USB, it blinks on and off repeatedly and the power button does nothing at all. The computer won't recognize (tried several diff ports and pcs)
I'm beginning to think the factory cable is my only option to bypass the bootloop and fix it, just hoping I wouldn't have to wait so long for a cable or drop 40 bucks on it. I guess that's what I get for messing something up!
I left it bootlooping for like 6 hours on the charger. Unplug it and you can't turn it on. Plug it in and it bootloops and you can't turn it off. So is this just bricked for good with no possible fix?
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The point is you can't turn it off, it's dead. If you try to put it on charger either through wall charger or USB, it blinks on and off repeatedly and the power button does nothing at all.
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Sorry. I was obviously hoping I was misinterpreting.
MattFoley said:
I'm beginning to think the factory cable is my only option to bypass the bootloop and fix it, just hoping I wouldn't have to wait so long for a cable or drop 40 bucks on it. I guess that's what I get for messing something up!
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You may want to PM SkOrPn, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23024666&postcount=108, seems like he has them for $15/$19 depending on length (if your location is accurate.)
Kindle fire turning on and off by itself and won't charge
The only way I know around that problem is unfortunately to remove the back cover and remove the battery with a good adjustable power supply apply 3.7V to the battery for a 30 to 60sec it will draw approx. 3.4A and over the 30 - 60sec the current draw by the battery will drop. Be very careful as you don’t want to blow it up. Put the battery back in and you should find the kindle will charge again. Good luck
Hmmm, I wonder if the factory cable would be an alternative as last I checked an adjustable power supply (if you're without one) can run 70-100 bucks which is half of the kindle itself, I'd almost just take my chances sending it back in to amazon. Thanks for the help though from someone who has had the problem
I hope this is In the right area I rooted my fire and installed a custom rom added fff and the recovery ect well yesterday when I press power nothing happens when I plug it up to power it turns on flashes the press power for recovery square then shuts down flashes it again it does this over and over never ending it wont stay on long enough for me to do anything I tried letting it charge all night I tried different power cords when it plugs to my pc it does the same anyone have any ideas
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Also want to add I rooted it with the utility over 3 months ago it was working fine til yesterday I made no changes to it
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I would suggest trying this first as it sounds like you are in the recovery loop. Another useful tool is to "re-stock" it using this utility. Maybe not the best idea if you haven't done a recent backup but if you have tried everything else these usually work to get you going again.
Also it can't hurt to go through this thread and see if someone else has suffered the same problem. Between these 3 threads you should get your kindle working again.
Laquox said:
I would suggest trying this first as it sounds like you are in the recovery loop. Another useful tool is to "re-stock" it using this utility. Maybe not the best idea if you haven't done a recent backup but if you have tried everything else these usually work to get you going again.
Also it can't hurt to go through this thread and see if someone else has suffered the same problem. Between these 3 threads you should get your kindle working again.
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Ill try but it doesn't stay on long enough for me to even try to connect to it via usb its rebooting so fast thanks for the info
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yea i just says waiting for device and the others say device not found using that utility i dont even get the promt letting me know it plugged to the pc via usb
Qasimja said:
yea i just says waiting for device and the others say device not found using that utility i dont even get the promt letting me know it plugged to the pc via usb
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You have a dead or near dead battery. Plug in the oem charger and see if it will charge up.
kinfauns said:
You have a dead or near dead battery. Plug in the oem charger and see if it will charge up.
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Try this and when you plug it up via the OEM charger does it turn on or does the light on the bottom at least light up?
Laquox said:
Try this and when you plug it up via the OEM charger does it turn on or does the light on the bottom at least light up?
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I did that and im doing that now it does a never ending cycle the light turns green it turns on fire triangle that says press power for recovery then shuts off then does it again then shuts off over and over it did this all night it
doesnt respond to the power button the only time i get any type of response is when i plug it up to the outlet or usb cord on pc then it does the never ending loop like i explained
i tried the oem charger and another charger also tried another usb cord plugged to pc does the thing every time
Qasimja said:
when i plug it up to the outlet or usb cord on pc then it does the never ending loop like i explained
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Odd if it's turning on your PC should be able to make a connection long enough to adb it. Have you tried pressing the power button a few times to get into "recovery" mode? The exact instructions are "press the power button when the light dims green" however I have noticed it works for me if I just gently press the power button a few times once I turn it on.
Also have you tried a "hard reset"? Basically you hold the power button down for 20-30 seconds until the kindle turns completely off.
Barring this I am drawing a blank. I am only just now learning the ins and out of this system.
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I did that and im doing that now it does a never ending cycle the light turns green it turns on fire triangle that says press power for recovery then shuts off then does it again then shuts off over and over it did this all night it
doesnt respond to the power button the only time i get any type of response is when i plug it up to the outlet or usb cord on pc then it does the never ending loop like i explained
i tried the oem charger and another charger also tried another usb cord plugged to pc does the thing every time
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If it won't charge on its own, you're probably going to have to make/buy a factory cable and try it this way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23034046&postcount=246
If you want a fuller picture of the discussion, go back to post #226 and start from there.
If you don't know what a factory cable is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550999
Good luck.
EDIT: You might actually be able to do the above without a factory cable since you have FFF installed. This is all just "in theory" to me because I've never encountered this exact problem.
Try this:
Unplug your device
Get your command prompt ready (make sure you are in the directory that fastboot is located)
Type the following command ( but don't hit enter yet):
fastboot -i 0x1949 oem idme bootmode 4000
Plug your USB cable into your computer first, then your device
When it comes on, within the first few seconds of seeing the yellow triangle, hit enter, then reboot.
Plug it into your charger.
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soupmagnet said:
Try this:
Unplug your device
Get your command prompt ready (make sure you are in the directory that fastboot is located)
Type the following command ( but don't hit enter yet):
fastboot -i 0x1949 oem idme bootmode 4000
Plug your USB cable into your computer first, then your device
When it comes on, within the first few seconds of seeing the yellow triangle, hit enter, then reboot.
Plug it into your charger.
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ill try and report back thanks
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Sounds like a problem I had, unfortunately it was because I had completely submerged my kindle in water on accident and the battery got fried. It would boot, I would see FFF then it would restart... gotten your kindle wet at all?
googlelover said:
Sounds like a problem I had, unfortunately it was because I had completely submerged my kindle in water on accident and the battery got fried. It would boot, I would see FFF then it would restart... gotten your kindle wet at all?
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Nah it wasn't near any water never got wet
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I'm using the factory charger but I have twrp.when I boot it it shows the triange then shuts down then back up in a loop, what should I do.I had the charger plugged in then the kf just died
Please help
I am seeing more and more of these threads of the kindle "not charging" after TWRP is installed. I am wondering if it's user error or something deeper.
I would let it charge for a bit and see what happens. Also press the power button a few times when you turn it on until the light turns orange. If it does turn orange and boots into TWRP then you know at least the kindle is not "bricked" and you can restore a backup.
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I am seeing more and more of these threads of the kindle "not charging" after TWRP is installed. I am wondering if it's user error or something deeper.
I would let it charge for a bit and see what happens. Also press the power button a few times when you turn it on until the light turns orange. If it does turn orange and boots into TWRP then you know at least the kindle is not "bricked" and you can restore a backup.
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Thanks but it won't charge at all I know its not charging because when it turns on a little later it shuts back down,then it boots up and shuts down even faster than last time.
Have you try to press and hold the Power button for more than 30 seconds?
I think I need to take the battery out and charge it separately,but how would I charge it once its out?I need help.
jamateur said:
Have you try to press and hold the Power button for more than 30 seconds?
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Yes it just turns on then off
Have you try this:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
If you end up stuck at the yellow triangle, in KF Utility select Boot Normal, wait for it to say <waiting for device> and then press and hold the power button 20 seconds until the fire turns off, then when its off turn it back on. This sometimes happens, I have yet to find a clean solution
If you end up stuck with a yellow triangle, do not EVER unplug it. Leave it plugged in. Check the windows drivers to make sure it isnt showing as "kindle" again. Fastboot is different and can cause this.
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I have also used TWRP with Energy CM9 Kang ROM. In generally it is okay with a few non-major issues.
jamateur said:
Have you try this:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
I have also used TWRP with Energy CM9 Kang ROM. In generally it is okay with a few non-major issues.
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but its not bricked it just doesn't have enough battery to boot up even with the charger.
maybe this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24086022#post24086022
espacially the linked in post from #226 ...
mad at myself
I am so mad right now...I got it working by making a charger that is one volt stronger.It booted up, but then i was going to take a picture of it to put on xda and when i plugged my charger in the seond time, the device shut down.NOW WHEN I CONNECT A CHARGER TO IT IT WONT EVEN TRY TO TURN ON,BUT IF I CLICK THE BUTTON IT TURNS ON FOR 2 SECONDS THEN TURNS OFF. I am so mad:
i assume you meant Ampere not Volt ?
usb charger has 5V - if build one with 6V (don't know how) - you will damage the device !
it should have ~2A - let it on the strong charger over night
b63 said:
maybe this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24086022#post24086022
espacially the linked in post from #226 ...
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I'm pretty sure that will work, if you can get that far. Otherwise (assuming you've already opened it) unplug the battery cable, start the fastboot command, plug in USB, then when (if? not sure it'll work) fastboot completes plug in the battery.
Changing the charging voltage won't help because the charge controller has a built in regulator. IIRC it will take something >12V, but there are probably other things on the USB V+ that might get fried at those levels.
I do remember from the tiny bit of battery charger documentation I'd seen that the Fire's charge controller does not have the flat battery recover feature, that is, provide a trickle charge by default if the battery is too low to power up the CPU. Which is flat out stupid on a consumer product.
Hello,
I just purchased a used PH-1 and it was reset before I got it. So I put in my Google credentials and restored a backup no problem. The first few times I powered the phone down and plugged in a charger, I saw the battery charging graphic icon (looks like a coffee to go cup : ), no problem. But now, when I power down the phone, the screen is black and stays black with no sound or vibration when I plug in the charger. It still *does* charge in this state, but when I try and boot the phone back up, I have to press the Power button for 10+ seconds and let go before it will boot. I suppose I can continue to use the phone this way, but I was wondering if there was a reason and/or fix for this that anyone is aware of? thanks so much.
ohcello said:
Hello,
I just purchased a used PH-1 and it was reset before I got it. So I put in my Google credentials and restored a backup no problem. The first few times I powered the phone down and plugged in a charger, I saw the battery charging graphic icon (looks like a coffee to go cup : ), no problem. But now, when I power down the phone, the screen is black and stays black with no sound or vibration when I plug in the charger. It still *does* charge in this state, but when I try and boot the phone back up, I have to press the Power button for 10+ seconds and let go before it will boot. I suppose I can continue to use the phone this way, but I was wondering if there was a reason and/or fix for this that anyone is aware of? thanks so much.
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Try a different cable and wall charger
sd_shadow said:
Try a different cable and wall charger
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Sorry I should have mentioned, I tried several cables and chargers... same result.
Another issue I noticed. If I turn on the phone when it's plugged in, it goes to the bootloader (which is locked). I have to unplug the phone if I want to boot to the OS.
ohcello said:
Another issue I noticed. If I turn on the phone when it's plugged in, it goes to the bootloader (which is locked). I have to unplug the phone if I want to boot to the OS.
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Make sure you're not fat-fingering the volume down button and the power button, because that combination is guaranteed to get you into the bootloader.
Smac89 said:
Make sure you're not fat-fingering the volume down button and the power button, because that combination is guaranteed to get you into the bootloader.
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Understood and no I'm not. It only happens when plugged in