Im on sprint and supposedly I wont be getting the 64gb model of the htc one. Im kinda into style and the Htc one is stylin
Okay so from what I know Htc one Pros: Sense 5 ui isn't as thick as touchwiz(I might root and rom eventually), Camera is still a little better in color detail even though lower megapixels etc., Beats audio, Higher pixel density(Good for pich and zoom), LCD 3 has better color than SuperAMOLED, Hardware is basically the same.
GSIV Pros: Bigger screen, Slightly bigger battery(but with bigger screen and heavy ui it is basically the same as one except in sleep mode), Higher clocked processor(also basically the same cuz of screen and heavy ui), Removable battery, sd card slot(which means I can buy the 16gb model and bet a 64gb sd card), lots of features.
So this is what I can tell so far let me know if I missed something
This isn't allowed for one.
2ndly it has been beaten to death 100000000x over.
Sorry man.
What do you mean "isn't allowed"
Lol someone has a gs3
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GS4 obviously
No phone comparison threads. We don't want playgrounds for fanboys. See guide sticky for explanation. You can compare single features of phones, but no overall "Which is better". There are millions of that comparisons already out there. Look in review thread sticky. No need for another one.
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hey g2 users, i have a question. im on the fence to buy a G2 or a N5. now i read plenty of info from both sides, i realize the n5 battery is not that great but i asked people who have it and most people said it lasts a full day(which is what i need), the g2 has a much better battery but what drives me away are all the stories of terrible deteriorating performance and a glitchy screen, which are red flags to me (specially performance), a lot of people have reported this and i know a lot of people dont have this problem(yet maybe?), so does the g2 suffer of these issues and should i just for a n5?
LG G2 Advantages over Nexus 5
Bigger & Better display (Contrast is ~1500 to 1 for G2 vs ~1000 to 1 for Nexus 5)
Better Camera
Much better battery life
Louder speakers
FM Radio
Nexus 5 Advantages over LG G2
Brighter Display
Stock Android without OEM junk software
Faster updates as its a Nexus
Cheaper
I have 2 G2s both have no deterioration in performance or screen glitches.
I would go with nexus 5 simply for know junk and faster updates
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Go to a store and try out both check out the extra software features etc of both and then decide which one suits you best.
Hello i know there are many topics made on this question, but i want to ask you guys whitch one would suit my needs the best:
I am still considering S3 because i like how it looks, dual screen, cases and because it is the cheapest option.
I am considering nexus 5 because of custom roms (i LOVE to theme! I am not really intrested in tech stuff, just in themes and fun tweaks, i would be completely happy with cm11 or something like p.a.).
LG G2 because of camera, better battery life, like how it looks.
I need a phone that would make listening to music experience the best, a good camera and sharp screen.
I am not a gamer.
So, if you were me, whitch phone you'd choose?
Personally for me camera differences don't mean a lot... It just comes down to battery ... That's why I love the G2 it has amazing battery (significantly better than N5)
Nexus 5 I would choose if you were a hardcore flashaholic...
S3 I wouldn't even suggest that option as its 2 gens older than the hardware you are comparing it to ... As an alternative I would suggest HTC One which should be around as cheap as that
Well dual window is also possible on the G2 if you flash a custom Rom! I think the g2 is the proper choice for you
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you are searching for the answer in g2 forum. of course the answer will be g2.
I just want to give advice, stay away from nexus5, for me it is a worst phone I've had.
G2 is a beast comparing to n5, and you have enough roms to flash dont be afraid, mahdi rom which is pure aosp with best audio drivers... my advice.
But if you preffer cheapest option, the s3 is actualy good phone, why not, for me camera is better than on g2 low light scenes on g2 and n5 are crap you can keep that in mind
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djoni_gitara said:
you are searching for the answer in g2 forum. of course the answer will be g2.
I just want to give advice, stay away from nexus5, for me it is a worst phone I've had.
G2 is a beast comparing to n5, and you have enough roms to flash dont be afraid, mahdi rom which is pure aosp with best audio drivers... my advice.
But if you preffer cheapest option, the s3 is actualy good phone, why not, for me camera is better than on g2 low light scenes on g2 and n5 are crap you can keep that in mind
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first battery which is so miserable, poor signal reception and everyone was complaining on my voice call quality. This was enough beacuse I need my phone all day and I do a lot of phone calls. And realy I didnt ask to much.
These two problems was not solved with any custom rom or tweak or anything, stock, custom, hard reseting nothing. And I was not alone with same problem.
other thing which made it crap is cheap plastic look, ****y speaker, poor camera (not that g2 have a so much better speaker and camera but it is a better a little)
better screen on g2, extremely thin bezel, and g2 look like a premium device compared to n5 and in my country they cost the same. So n5 for me is a crap
I had note1 and note2 before and can say that these are good devices, with very good camera, screen, speakers, and battery. I guess the s3 is pretty much the same. I left samsung because I wanted something else and that was the only reason...
hope it can help
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S3 is outdated due to its So Exynos, and S4 krait in the US version. Samsung phones also suffer from the random IMEI loss when rooting and flashing, you can search this to see what I'm referring to. Also the build quality of the S3 is not as nice as the other two, which ia why I don't buy Sammy anymore. Also the G2 would have the best battery out of the 3 devices.
A Nexus 5 is a G2 but a "lesser" version, its battery is smaller & the screen is also smaller.
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The choice was easy for me.
I love holding the G2 in my hand and looking at its bazel(less) size and screen ratio. 1st of all the battery. I used my phone for the gym daily playing videos and streaming pandora to and from work, and it gets me two days worth before a charge and I still have some juice left to spare.
The only negative is the lack of SD card, yes I have unlimited data, but at my gym its a deadzone for t-mobile for some reason, so then I'm force to put contents in my phone, but those 1080p videos really eat up space.
Cannot wait for the G4 LOL
I'm getting a new phone soon, and I'm stuck between the LG G3 and HTC One M8. I know this is the G3 forum but I hope I'll get honest suggestions from here.
Can someone please honestly answer my questions:
1. Since I'm coming from the Moto X 2014, I need a fast enough and future proof (duh, till 2016 Jun) phone. I sold it because the screen was fragile, display was so yellowish to my liking, camera wasn't good, no dev support, poor headphone output, poor battery and tempered glass protectors won't even fit properly. My question is, is the G3 really fast enough for the period I stated above? I don't want any lag or frame rate issues on my phone, even with games like MC5 or any other GPU demanding game.
2. How's the battery of the phone? I know about the stock figures, but with a custom ROM, and custom kernel, how many SOT can you get?
3. How's the headphone output? Is it comparable to the One M8 after some tweaking?
4. I don't mind chaging the screen resolution to 1080p, but after changing it, is the phone completely stable? I don't need bugs or any stability issues.
I really like the G3 for its screen size and camera (camera isn't a big priority though), a GB of RAM extra, bezel less design. While, the HTC M8 is cheaper, with some good Harman Kardon earphones, much better speakers, better performance.
Help me out please!
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I'm getting a new phone soon, and I'm stuck between the LG G3 and HTC One M8. I know this is the G3 forum but I hope I'll get honest suggestions from here.
Can someone please honestly answer my questions:
1. Since I'm coming from the Moto X 2014, I need a fast enough and future proof (duh, till 2016 Jun) phone. I sold it because the screen was fragile, display was so yellowish to my liking, camera wasn't good, no dev support, poor headphone output, poor battery and tempered glass protectors won't even fit properly. My question is, is the G3 really fast enough for the period I stated above? I don't want any lag or frame rate issues on my phone, even with games like MC5 or any other GPU demanding game.
2. How's the battery of the phone? I know about the stock figures, but with a custom ROM, and custom kernel, how many SOT can you get?
3. How's the headphone output? Is it comparable to the One M8 after some tweaking?
4. I don't mind chaging the screen resolution to 1080p, but after changing it, is the phone completely stable? I don't need bugs or any stability issues.
I really like the G3 for its screen size and camera (camera isn't a big priority though), a GB of RAM extra, bezel less design. While, the HTC M8 is cheaper, with some good Harman Kardon earphones, much better speakers, better performance.
Help me out please!
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Well i would suggest the G3 for the same reasons i got it, the camera is far better than the M8, the video recording is up to 4k, the screen can't be lowered in resolution so the battery might drain a bit more than the M8 but the battery on the G3 has more capacity, the phone lasts me a whole day and a bit more but i always charge it each night, the phone is bigger in screen size and overall size but the feel on the hand is quite good, im typing using one hand so that should say a lot, the phone is plenty fast and the added gig of ram future proofs the phone a bit more, i would say hold out for the g4 but if you need to buy now then get the g3 i have already owned it for almost a year and the phone has been fantastic, im currently using the stock 4.4.2 firmware because lollipop breaks root and there is no shortage of roms so you can customize away with your liking. Overall get the G3. Also a minor detail that is easily noticeable on gold and white phones are small hairline cracks on the mics and ir blaster so if that is an absolute deal breaker get the m8 and if you get the at&t version then watch out cause sometimes some phones the wireless charging stops working good thing is at&t will exhange it but you have to press that the issue is the phone not the accesories. Overall is the best phone i have had since my sgs3
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Well i would suggest the G3 for the same reasons i got it, the camera is far better than the M8, the video recording is up to 4k, the screen can't be lowered in resolution so the battery might drain a bit more than the M8 but the battery on the G3 has more capacity, the phone lasts me a whole day and a bit more but i always charge it each night, the phone is bigger in screen size and overall size but the feel on the hand is quite good, im typing using one hand so that should say a lot, the phone is plenty fast and the added gig of ram future proofs the phone a bit more, i would say hold out for the g4 but if you need to buy now then get the g3 i have already owned it for almost a year and the phone has been fantastic, im currently using the stock 4.4.2 firmware because lollipop breaks root and there is no shortage of roms so you can customize away with your liking. Overall get the G3. Also a minor detail that is easily noticeable on gold and white phones are small hairline cracks on the mics and ir blaster so if that is an absolute deal breaker get the m8 and if you get the at&t version then watch out cause sometimes some phones the wireless charging stops working good thing is at&t will exhange it but you have to press that the issue is the phone not the accesories. Overall is the best phone i have had since my sgs3
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Some reviews say G3 is better, some say M8 is better. So I can't decide on one.
The only thing holding me back from the G3 is the lag. I got into some G3 threads and it seems the phone really lags in gaming too. If the lag wasn't there, G3 was the better phone obviously. I can't wait for the G4 because I'm getting these for cheap.
I don't want lag in ANY game or app. :/
With stock based custom rom I don't have lag.
With aosp based rom is incredibly fast.
I have both (actually my wife has the M8).
G3 pros
1) better camera
2) better screen
3) better in hand sensation
4) more updates (about 3 in 3 months)
edios123 said:
Some reviews say G3 is better, some say M8 is better. So I can't decide on one.
The only thing holding me back from the G3 is the lag. I got into some G3 threads and it seems the phone really lags in gaming too. If the lag wasn't there, G3 was the better phone obviously. I can't wait for the G4 because I'm getting these for cheap.
I don't want lag in ANY game or app. :/
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I really dont understand why people say theres lag in games? i have this phone and dont get any lag in games at all and im on a stock rom too, personally i think G3 is a better phone than the m8, screens bigger with great screen to bezel ratio, quality of the screen is better imo, battery life maybe isnt better as this phone has a bigger screen and higher resolution screen (btw watch a high def movie on the LG G3 and it looks amazing). i bought my LG G3 for £280 brand new sim unlocked, for that price you cant go wrong.
I think the screen on the G3 is really good. It's what I liked the first time I seen it. Not that it was big but because it looked so clear. I used to calibrate displays and I think overall its one of the best screens I've seen on a phone. It definitely lacks black level but makes up for it everywhere else. Sharpness is now modifiable.
-A modified G3 can reach the M8 in benchmarks so speed may be comparable.
-A modified G3 can reach 80fps in Quadrant benchmarks.
-The G3 has a good camera and great third party app.
My parents both have an M8 as per my suggestion. I think they are great phones but I'm not sorry for choosing the G3 for myself, except for those great speakers the M8 has. Those speakers are just awesome!
Overall the build quality is totally different between the two based on materials used but the G3 isn't as bad as a Samsung.
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With stock based custom rom I don't have lag.
With aosp based rom is incredibly fast.
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Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
diegodbm said:
I have both (actually my wife has the M8).
G3 pros
1) better camera
2) better screen
3) better in hand sensation
4) more updates (about 3 in 3 months)
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sofir786 said:
I really dont understand why people say theres lag in games? i have this phone and dont get any lag in games at all and im on a stock rom too, personally i think G3 is a better phone than the m8, screens bigger with great screen to bezel ratio, quality of the screen is better imo, battery life maybe isnt better as this phone has a bigger screen and higher resolution screen (btw watch a high def movie on the LG G3 and it looks amazing). i bought my LG G3 for £280 brand new sim unlocked, for that price you cant go wrong.
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Are you sure that every game runs smoothly on it? I'm asking because there's even a dedicated thread for reducing the lag.
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I think the screen on the G3 is really good. It's what I liked the first time I seen it. Not that it was big but because it looked so clear. I used to calibrate displays and I think overall its one of the best screens I've seen on a phone. It definitely lacks black level but makes up for it everywhere else. Sharpness is now modifiable.
-A modified G3 can reach the M8 in benchmarks so speed may be comparable.
-A modified G3 can reach 80fps in Quadrant benchmarks.
-The G3 has a good camera and great third party app.
My parents both have an M8 as per my suggestion. I think they are great phones but I'm not sorry for choosing the G3 for myself, except for those great speakers the M8 has. Those speakers are just awesome!
Overall the build quality is totally different between the two based on materials used but the G3 isn't as bad as a Samsung.
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Please be honest, if you were given a second chance, which one would you choose? Can I make the G3 run flawlessly as an HTC One M8 in everything?
I have a Nexus 7 2013 with a custom ROM and while it used to be fast, now it's not satisfactory for me. It's still fast, but I see some occasional stutter and games don't run smoothly. I don't need other slow device.
edios123 said:
Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
How's the performance between the two?
Are you sure that every game runs smoothly on it? I'm asking because there's even a dedicated thread for reducing the lag.
Please be honest, if you were given a second chance, which one would you choose? Can I make the G3 run flawlessly as an HTC One M8 in everything?
I have a Nexus 7 2013 with a custom ROM and while it used to be fast, now it's not satisfactory for me. It's still fast, but I see some occasional stutter and games don't run smoothly. I don't need other slow device.
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Yes im sure, i play graphic intensive games such as Colin McRae rally, Dead Trigger 2, Nova 3. No lag, i do use a custom kernel though.
edios123 said:
Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
How's the performance between the two?
Are you sure that every game runs smoothly on it? I'm asking because there's even a dedicated thread for reducing the lag.
Please be honest, if you were given a second chance, which one would you choose? Can I make the G3 run flawlessly as an HTC One M8 in everything?
I have a Nexus 7 2013 with a custom ROM and while it used to be fast, now it's not satisfactory for me. It's still fast, but I see some occasional stutter and games don't run smoothly. I don't need other slow device.
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M8 smoother, but I prefer g3.
There's something about it that I really love.
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Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
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At the moment aosp based roms are on nightlys but stables versions are coming next days.
I miss camera quality and knock code
In all honest though you really need to ask yourself, how future proof are you these days anyway?
Chances are if you buy a new phone, it'll be outdated in a month because there will already be talks of a new model with a better processor and some revolutionary features.
Let's put it this way, I was in your situation a while ago too. I was using a Nexus 5 for a little over a year and just wanted something new. My first 2 choices were the M8 and the OnePlus one, then eventually I factored in the G3. It wasn't even on my radar to begin with!
In the end I chose the G3 because of the QHD screen, removable battery and microSD card support. Sure unibody phones look great, but I just have never liked the idea of the battery being sealed in. What if the battery you get is faulty? You'll need to replace the entire phone. Sure that's an extreme case but it can happen.
Take my post with a grain of salt because I don't value gaming performance, but with lollipop on the G3 it's plenty fast for me. I really don't think you can go wrong with either phone.
edios123 said:
Some reviews say G3 is better, some say M8 is better. So I can't decide on one.
The only thing holding me back from the G3 is the lag. I got into some G3 threads and it seems the phone really lags in gaming too. If the lag wasn't there, G3 was the better phone obviously. I can't wait for the G4 because I'm getting these for cheap.
I don't want lag in ANY game or app. :/
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What kind on game are you looking to run to see if i can download it and test it out? I don't do much gaming on the phone just cause i have no time to game on it, all i have are some pick up and play games that entertaing for like 5min
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edios123 said:
I'm getting a new phone soon, and I'm stuck between the LG G3 and HTC One M8. I know this is the G3 forum but I hope I'll get honest suggestions from here.
Can someone please honestly answer my questions:
1. Since I'm coming from the Moto X 2014, I need a fast enough and future proof (duh, till 2016 Jun) phone. I sold it because the screen was fragile, display was so yellowish to my liking, camera wasn't good, no dev support, poor headphone output, poor battery and tempered glass protectors won't even fit properly. My question is, is the G3 really fast enough for the period I stated above? I don't want any lag or frame rate issues on my phone, even with games like MC5 or any other GPU demanding game.
2. How's the battery of the phone? I know about the stock figures, but with a custom ROM, and custom kernel, how many SOT can you get?
3. How's the headphone output? Is it comparable to the One M8 after some tweaking?
4. I don't mind chaging the screen resolution to 1080p, but after changing it, is the phone completely stable? I don't need bugs or any stability issues.
I really like the G3 for its screen size and camera (camera isn't a big priority though), a GB of RAM extra, bezel less design. While, the HTC M8 is cheaper, with some good Harman Kardon earphones, much better speakers, better performance.
Help me out please!
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I was in a similar situation when I sold my Moto X due to the same issues you mentioned above, though it was primarily due to the hideous AMOLED screen on the MOTO X which had burn-in issues just after 20 days of usage. Even my replacement unit got that in mere 10 days. It was the navbar that was visible under white/grey backgrounds.
I chose G3 over M8 after trying them in Chroma and other retail stores:
1. Much better screen to body ratio. The bezels are extremely slim and the phone looks sexy. Compare that to the M8, its as tall as the G3 but that is to accommodate those boomsound speakers.
2. Though it has to power a higher resolution screen, the latter lasts me 1.5 to 2 days since I consider myself a light user. It'll easily last you a day even with heavy use.
3. Camera is awesome! M8 stands no chance with its ultrapixel cam. The focus is insanely fast due to the laser focus which may seem gimmiky unless you use it and see it for yourself.
4. Though plastic, its pretty well built.
5. Removable battery, personal preference after using the MOTO X.
6. Gorgeous screen and I'm sure you'll see the difference when you use it over 1080p screen.
7. After sales of LG is light years ahead than HTC in our country. People all over India curse HTC for opting a 3rd party vendor for its after sales service. I've had an instance when I had to deal with them and I made sure it was the last. I've used Nexus 4 and 5 and found LG's after sales to be much better and their repair cost is also reasonable.
8. LG has come a long way in dealing with S/W updates and they have bettered HTC and many other OEM's in this area. I'm pretty optimistic that we will receive an update to 6.0 or whatever they name it.
Some points to consider:
1. The lags that you hear/read about were of 4.4.4 days and LG has done a good job with 5.0 making it pretty much lag free.
2. You WILL notice the speed difference between near stock Android of Moto X over custom LG skin but its something that you'll get use to in a matter of days.
3. I've used M8 a couple of times in retail store and its a wee bit faster compared to G3.
4. Though it happens rarely, the LG screen fails to respond to touch inputs. It mostly happens in the lower bottom area and many have reported this. Since 5.0 update, this issue is almost gone and I've come across it only once after the update. No need to worry about it and its certainly not a deal breaker. I've been using the phone since Dec 2014 and have encountered this 4-5 times and only once after the 5.0 update.
5. M8 with its boomsound speakers is clearly a winner when it comes to audio quality but G3's audio aint puny either. It's got decent amount of punch and should be enough for daily usage unless you plan use your phone to watch a lot of videos/movies.
Hope the above helps you in deciding. Every phone has its own compromises/cons and eventually you need to decide which ones you can live with. Cheers! :highfive:
I owned both (M8 for a couple of months and G3 till now) and i can say G3 is clearly the winner out there.Theres a simple reason.
If you have checked the recent GMA (global mobile awards ) in category 5 (best mobile handsets ) there were 2 winners :
Apple iphone 6 + LG G3. I havent seen any samsung or nexus or htc devices . So i am glad that i kept my G3 .
The judges comments :
“Affordable excellence with winning design – its edge-to-edge screen offers the best quality mobile viewing experience around today.”
Which one would you get, and why? Need an answer because my S6's power button is malfunctioning, the home button rattles, one part of the screen is lower than the other, and fast charging doesn't work. I'm choosing these phones because my carrier is offering me $0 for them (NOT VIRGIN MOBILE).
I also like to flash and root on all my phones, so please consider that.
Specs:
HTC One M8
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
Moto X Play
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_play-7454.php
LG G3
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-6294.php
Thank you for your answers
M8 had a garbage camera and you probably need to S-Off still before you can do much to it if you want to run custom roms.
G3 used to overheat and screen wasn't really that great being a 1st gen 2k screen.
Not sure about Moto. How about the Z3?
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Thank you!
My carrier does not have the z3, unfortunately.
Moto x ftw. But change logo to lenovo instead haha
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Does anyone know how large the community is for each phone? Could you rank them such as: Moto X Play > HTC One M8 > LG G3
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HTC m8 get marshmallow already !!
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well am not sure this is the right place to ask this but i will try to answer
as an S6 owner myself and i have owned G3 an M8 before ( and still have the G3) i would recommend you to go with the G3 the build is plastic but rather good and its the toughest phone i ever had.
The M8 build is fantastic but the camera is a bit disappointing and compared to the G3 the display on M8 isn't that good either ( and i didn't enjoy my experience with Sense UI neither )
the screen On G3 is quite good (first gen 2K display) but suffers from over sharpening, and since you are willing to root your phone there is a fix on XDA community.
the Phone does over heat but as i said there is a fix for this also ( with root).
the camera is quite good with laser focus.
the battery (3000mAh) is quite good didn't had any problems with it lasting me a day, and you can squeeze more hours of it using greenify and amplify ( Root needed).
Well, I'm coming from HTC M8, so I cannot speak for other phones. As for my own experience with M8, I must tell you that in some ways I still miss it. If you're not into photography, It can be a good deal for several reasons:
1. great battery life (+1 day)
2. fast and smooth UI experience (I actually enjoyed sense UI), comparable with nexus (there is a thread in m8 forum that debates weather sense is smoother than GPE with interesting feedback from users)
3. speaking of GPE, you have the option to fully convert to vanilla-like android
4. fantastic sound quality with both speakers and headphones
5. really solid radio with good coverage and clear sound input/output in calls
6. premium quality
7. IR port if you're into this
As minus (it's not perfect though)
1. camera (fast, reliable, nice with manual mode, but questionable photo output when viewing from any other sources than the phone)
2. quite heavy
3. really slippery (had the gun metal grey, I heard that the silver one has a mat finish with better grip)
4. it's so solid that I got bored just as with my previous nexuses ... haven't had the incentive to flash things other than gpe
5. on GPE camera and sound through speakers are not on par with sense versions.
Hope that this helps you decide.
Cheers
Just moved to the S6 from the G3. One of the best phones I've ever owned. If it wasn't wrecked when I was hit by a car I'd probably still be using it.
Wow! Thanks for the responses guys! @danmak89 I'm guessing your ok now? Seems like a pretty terrible accident.
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