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Ugh...makes me sick

So here is some d-bag trying to make a profit off the hard work of the people here and on other dev sites. He is asking for $250 for the Fire.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/ele/2845733190.html
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I am selling a Kindle Fire with Android 4.0.3 on it. It works wonderfully and is in great shape. It has only been opened to be rooted and have android installed on it. The special recovery software is installed as well incase you try to change anything in the future and it messes it up, all youll have to do is restore it, and your back to the Kindle Fire operating system. It is basically a fully functional tablet like all the others without the camera or bluetooth. Youtube, gmail, bookmarks, google, the browser, android marketplace, and all the widgets work perfectly as if it came out of the box this way. That is the reason I am selling it for over $200, because it has so much more to offer rather than the standard Kindle Fire. If your interested, you can call or text me 651-500-5554. I would be willing to walk you through how to work it all and how to recover it incase you ever have a problem. I would also be willing to trade it for a HP Touchpad.
Keywords: Kindle, Kindle Fire, Android, 4.0, Asus, Transformer, Samsung, Galaxy, Motorola, Blackberry, Nook, Nook Color, Nook Tablet, Kindle Keyboard, 3G, Wi-fi, 3.2, Honeycomb, ICS, Ice Cream Sandwich, Froyo
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If you're a dev for the Fire or you support the community, feel free to give this a-hole a call and let him know what you think!

What's so wrong about this...? Is there something I'm not getting here?

Zombiepiratez said:
What's so wrong about this...? Is there something I'm not getting here?
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He is:
1. Selling the kindle more than you buy it for.
2. Illegally distributing the work of our developers.
Basically, it's just wrong. I would understand selling your services, but a kindle fire running ics is NOT worth 250...

jmcoffey said:
He is:
1. Selling the kindle more than you buy it for.
2. Illegally distributing the work of our developers.
Basically, it's just wrong. I would understand selling your services, but a kindle fire running ics is NOT worth 250...
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I guess. I didn't know distributing software on a device you're selling was illegal. But I can definitely understand the not worth $250 thing.

If I were to ever sell mine I would ask more than you could buy a new one for because I put a lot of time into making it work as smooth as it does.
Nothing illegal about that it is just finding someone who is too lazy to do it themselves and making a few bucks.

There is NOTHING wrong with asking for more for a custom ROM'd device. Many people understand the shortcomings of the stock ROM, but are too hesitant to ever try a custom flash for fear of bricking it or whatever. An extra $50 for the competent efforts (which is the value added feature here) is probably a reasonable price to charge.
I wouldn't pay it because I'm comfortable with the process, but I've also invested considerable time just learning about the process myself before ever attempting a ROM flash.
He is selling his service of having put it onto the device.

Honestly, a person is allowed to ask what they want for the item they're selling. If I don't agree with the price being asked, I negotiate a price I'm comfortable with or move on. Doesn't make that person a con. As for making a buck off developers work, that's the drawback of an open source software - akin to someone selling a PC with Linux on it. Just my 2 cents. But I agree - I wouldn't pay that for the kindle fire personally when you can get one for $199 and do the work yourself.
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jmcoffey said:
He is:
1. Selling the kindle more than you buy it for.
2. Illegally distributing the work of our developers.
Basically, it's just wrong. I would understand selling your services, but a kindle fire running ics is NOT worth 250...
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1. How is that wrong? If the person buying it is willing to pay $250 where is the harm?
2. Illegal????? Android is open source people can freely distribute it.

Then don't buy it......
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Zombiepiratez said:
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Exactly what I was gonna say. I charge people 40-60 bucks on Craigslist to root, and place a custom ROM on their device. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he is doing and I would venture to say that the OP is just jealous. Lol.

IRIE4IPIER said:
Exactly what I was gonna say. I charge people 40-60 bucks on Craigslist to root, and place a custom ROM on their device. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he is doing and I would venture to say that the OP is just jealous. Lol.
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Nah, not jealous as I could easily do what he is doing. So your ventured guess is completely wrong.
I guess perhaps I'm the only one then who has a problem with someone abusing that hard work devs put into doing these hacks and custom roms for us by charging money and misrepresenting what they are selling...like this a-hole doesn't say that video doesn't work very well, that it is an alpha build of ICS, etc.
I'm stunned how many on here "support" this type of behavior. My faith in humanity just continues to go downhill...morals...ethics...decency...who needs that ****? Oh well...

So because we don't agree with you, we are automatically siding with the person selling the tablet????
Hes not selling the software, hes selling the tablet that hes rooted, flashed, etc.. hence the higher price. Hes not doing anything illegal.
If i didnt know anything about rooting, flashing, etc.. I would look for one that was pre-flashed to save me the hassle of possibly bricking the tablet in the process, its not so black and white as you think it is.
If he was just selling the firmware and the tools to do it then he would be 100% in the wrong.

ArcticFox said:
So because we don't agree with you, we are automatically siding with the person selling the tablet????
Hes not selling the software, hes selling the tablet that hes rooted, flashed, etc.. hence the higher price. Hes not doing anything illegal.
If i didnt know anything about rooting, flashing, etc.. I would look for one that was pre-flashed to save me the hassle of possibly bricking the tablet in the process, its not so black and white as you think it is.
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Actually you are making it black and white with only an understanding that if it is not illegal then it is perfectly okay and if it is illegal then there is a problem. If anything, I'm viewing it in the shades of gray by saying that, while not illegal, it is reprehensible.
Anyway, like I said...forget I posted this. It appears I am "in the wrong" with the majority and I should never have even considered that others might also have a problem with it. Silly me...I will proceed to clean the egg off my face.

ArcticFox said:
1. How is that wrong? If the person buying it is willing to pay $250 where is the harm?
2. Illegal????? Android is open source people can freely distribute it.
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Perhaps illegal was the wrong choice of words. how about immoral. I understand that some people can not install custom roms on their own, but i do not believe that installing a rom is worth $50. That's just my two cents.

Well I don't think it's worth $50 because I can do it myself for free. And part of the fun is hacking into it and customizing it the way you want it.
However, if I knew nothing about this stuff (and lets face it, the average user doesn't) then I would say $50 is about right.
Look at it this way. He is not selling the ROM or software, he is selling his services. If he put up an ad offering to root and install a custom ROM on the KF for $50, would that be a problem?
I don't think so.

I don't see what's so wrong about it. He's doing a service for people and in no way harming the development of this device. It's no different from someone buying a car, fixing it up, and reselling it at a higher value.
This may be a valid issue if he's claiming the work to be his own which he is not.

If some people are too lazy to spend 30min rooting the KF, just let them spend the extra 50$ on it
Theres nothing wrong with the seller, but I cant say the same for the buyer tho lol

Nobody knows.... Maybe this guy has made a donation to the developers of the software he uses
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I live in Jakarta, Indonesia, and the price for new kindle fire is almost US$300 a piece, then if you want to have it rooted, install custom ROM and others, you would surely have to pay $30-$50 more. I do my own rooting and other stuff because I am comfortable with the technical stuff, other people who are not comfortable will surely be happy to pay for the service

I work for a software company that sells and supports only GPL-ed software. Our licenses to our customers start in the low 5-figures of US$ - a year. There is nothing immoral about it, and the licenses we have from upstream developers permit this business activity provided we follow the terms of the license (including providing source code on demand to our customers).
So, in my view, the ethics of the situation are a matter of respecting the licenses under which the developers make their ROMS and other software available to us, and the sticking to the terms of those licenses regarding redistribution.
Unfortunately, it appears that most developers in this area don't state their intent for redistribution, or protect themselves and their software by stating that there's a specific license. On the other hand, one sees a fair amount of software from the Android Market that does have licenses such as the GPL. That's regardless of whether the software is "payfer" or "free beer".
Lacking that, I don't see why someone like the guy reselling the modified Kindle couldn't just drop a line to the developer in question. Even without a statement from the developer, he still retains copyright for his own work.
- Ed

i815 for Tab 7.7 Cyanogenmod Development

Hi Everyone,
As some of you may know, I broke the screen on my tab awhile ago. I only recently managed to secure the funds to repair the screen, however, seeing as I live in the US, it will still take me a good while to get my device fixed.
What I would prefer is to instead use an i815 as my main development system, and use the p6810 I have to make sure that I don't break anything for the international users. This will make it easier for me if I have any future hardware issues since I only have to deal with the US branch of Samsung and Verizon. It will also mean that I can add support for the i815 with my CM port much more easily. Also, it would mean that I could get back to developing more quickly as I would not have to wait for my device to return.
I cannot afford to purchase a new tab at this time, however, many people have been very generous and have asked to donate. I am very hesitant to the idea of donating for the reasons I discuss in at the bottom of this post (make sure you read it). However, since many people are eager for me to be able to start developing again, and for support on the i815, I figured it is fair to allow people to donate to that cause.
I have not yet gotten my screen repaired (although I have started along the track of getting it repaired), so depending on the interest and amount people donate, I might not get my screen repaired and instead use the money I've saved up to help in purchasing an i815. Regardless of whether I repair my screen or not, I intend to fully support the international versions of the Tab 7.7 (after all, I've done a ton of work for them already ).
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE READ THE REST OF THIS POST BEFORE CLICKING ON THE DONATE BUTTON
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The reason why I don't like to take donations is because, despite the name, when people "donate" they frequently (sometimes subconsciously) expect a product in return (in this case a fully functional CM9). That is something that I cannot guarantee since I only do this as a hobby and may not have the knowledge and/or time to fix all of the current outstanding issues. As long as this is very clear to people and they promise not to dirty this thread with requests for ETAs and whatnot, I might consider donations.
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Well there's absolutely no devs on the i815 so I can say I'd pledge a donation on my next payday assuming end of month is good. Gonna put up a PayPal or just have interested ppl pm you?
Either way your cm undertaking seemed impressive, wish you luck with whatever you choose to get whether it's repair or the i815
Edit: didn't see donation button on my phones tapa lol. Will plan to donate on payday
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i815 is the LTE Verizon version, right?
I suppose that wifi and hardware acceleration issues are the same of international version... So I'll be happy to donate... I'll do it as soon as I come back from work tonight.
Thanks Locerra for your efforts
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$25 your way. Plan to drop another $25 later.
I say get that i815 first

I HAVE SENT YOU ALL MY MONIES> THX>. Now let's get back to hacking. I'm lonely.

Will Pay Tomorrow 50 Euros. I hope youre back Soon
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$20 from Italy! :good:

donation complete, 50US, I'd love to help too, let me know what you need
I've got access to several servers both dedicated and virtual
can write application layer code etc
hit me up for an offline conversation as to what else might be doable
--tr

Thanks for your generosity guys, it is very appreciated. I'm at about $150 now (due to paypal tax), so there is still a bit of a ways to go.

locerra said:
Thanks for your generosity guys, it is very appreciated. I'm at about $150 now (due to paypal tax), so there is still a bit of a ways to go.
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Thanks for the hardwork and just donated 20$. Hope your screen would be fixed very soon.
From a P6800 user.

20$ sent for your work

two thumbs up for your work - just love it - 40$

I just sent u some support. Hope it all pans out!

$20 us sent.

Hrmmm I wanna donate but I am thinking about selling my i815.. so i guess i can sell it to locerra for a good deal so he wont have to raise as much money!

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on getting voice/text to work on the i815?

I'll be donating $20 US on Friday -- just waiting for the ol' paycheck.

miiike said:
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on getting voice/text to work on the i815?
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Not just this, but it would be nice to also have the bluetooth phone profile available, so that the tablet can pass incoming caller-id info to my bluetooth watch/handset.

miiike said:
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on getting voice/text to work on the i815?
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Do you mean other than VOIP solutions like Skype? If so, I doubt it. You would have to get Verizon to sign off on having a plan with minutes on your tablet, which I very much doubt they would do since as far as official firmware goes the Tab 7.7 is a data only device. Since they don't do voice over LTE yet, you also can't just swap SIM cards.
Data is probably going to take a bit to get going anyway -- there are no Samsung devices running ICS with CDMA or LTE, other than the just recently (or soon to be) released Galaxy S III (at least as far as I know).

Would it help if I told you I can put my VZW sim from my Galaxy Nexus and 4G/3G work fine and switch between the two modes? There might be an extra modem that needs to be flashed to a specific partition but I don't think a plan from VZW will be the issue getting it to work.

Possible 4.4.2 bounty?

If you haven't heard, there is an $18,000 located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728051. This may be for the Samsung Galaxy S5. If there is an exploit that will cover 4.4.2, it could possibly support multiple: devices running it and possibly bootloaders running 4.4.2, but I'm no expert on how tight the relation of security is on both Moto and Samsung platforms. What do you guys think? :laugh:

I thought 18,000 was a typo at first then I read the thread and about lost my mind
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If you think about it, a bootloader unlock and a root exploit are 2 different things. Zergrush is an example of a mutli-supported root exploit.

LMAO. Thanks for posting this, I was having trouble sleeping (4am now) but this bit of comedy should help me right along.
I can't believe that people who care about unlocking and rooting are still on Verizon, still buying Samsung devices, not waiting for devices to be unlocked first, and complaining about all of the above. I wouldn't be shocked if that bounty hits 6 figures. Good luck to them.

SymbioticGenius said:
LMAO. Thanks for posting this, I was having trouble sleeping (4am now) but this bit of comedy should help me right along.
I can't believe that people who care about unlocking and rooting are still on Verizon, still buying Samsung devices, not waiting for devices to be unlocked first, and complaining about all of the above. I wouldn't be shocked if that bounty hits 6 figures. Good luck to them.
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The thing is though, there is no exploit widely available for kitkat. If someone can find an exploit for the samsung phone it might actually work on all platforms of phones.

super65man said:
The thing is though, there is no exploit widely available for kitkat. If someone can find an exploit for the samsung phone it might actually work on all platforms of phones.
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But root is only part of the equation on the X.
Don't forget about write protection.
Remember, when on 4.4 rooted with write protection disabled, when you upgrade to 4.4.2, you keep root but write protection becomes re-enabled... at that point anything you save/modify in /system or the like are lost at power off/on. That appeared to be in the bootloader, not the OS.
So a "common" 4.4.2 root would also need to disable write protection to be effective on the X.

SymbioticGenius said:
LMAO. Thanks for posting this, I was having trouble sleeping (4am now) but this bit of comedy should help me right along.
I can't believe that people who care about unlocking and rooting are still on Verizon, still buying Samsung devices, not waiting for devices to be unlocked first, and complaining about all of the above. I wouldn't be shocked if that bounty hits 6 figures. Good luck to them.
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People are still on Verizon because of unlimited data (like myself). Samsung devices aren't bad either, just because their build quality doesn't allow you to drop the phone from higher than 5 feet. I'll tell you now, I once dropped a Note 2 from head level (i'm 5'10") and it just had some scuffs on the battery cover and a ding on the fake chrome framing on the bottom left hand corner. No screen damage or anything else. By the way, the Verizon versions aren't the only ones locked up.
Root bounties are going to continue to get higher and higher, as locked devices become more and more the "norm." Not everyone can afford $600-$700 for dev edition phones, so until the price of dev editions come down, more and more people will still be wanting root exploits to be found.

I had unlimited on Verizon for years. Now I have unlimited on T-Mobile for half the price.
I don't have much of an issue with Samsung's build quality. Their radios suck and their phones are locked tighter than fort "Knox"
With the money I've saved I could have bought a new Nexus5 or MotoX every three months. At first I had both in fact.
It's just interesting to see so many people band together to spend money to circumvent a company when they could easily save money and drop the company altogether.
You'd be shocked how quick Verizon would allow unlocked phones if everyone left them for that reason. Although I'm sure they'd try to claim the bounty LOL

I have to say....I would never buy a phone that didn't suit my needs just to save on my bill. Money isn't everything.
I want a phone i can do what I want to with it.....never a locked down one. This is my hobby....I'll pay what I need to for the phone that's right for me.
So I'll never be involved in bounties and waiting games.
But that's just me.

KidJoe said:
But root is only part of the equation on the X.
Don't forget about write protection.
Remember, when on 4.4 rooted with write protection disabled, when you upgrade to 4.4.2, you keep root but write protection becomes re-enabled... at that point anything you save/modify in /system or the like are lost at power off/on. That appeared to be in the bootloader, not the OS.
So a "common" 4.4.2 root would also need to disable write protection to be effective on the X.
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That is true, but if an exploit is released that will root it we would be one step closer to having the entire package. I'm sure disabling write protection is easier than making an exploit for root. But that's just my opinion, I have no idea where you would start if you were finding vulnerabilities.

I think an $18000 bounty just shows how impossible it is. Devs would be trying everything to claim that kind of cash.

Jcase released his exploit for the x write protection is still there though
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Not too useful really. Root without write protection disabled let's you use certain apps OK...but any system changes revert on reboot.
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thelogman said:
Jcase released his exploit for the x write protection is still there though
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Got a link to the exploit? Also then all we need to do is disable write protection now.

I believe its in the moto x orig android development page.
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super65man said:
Got a link to the exploit? Also then all we need to do is disable write protection now.
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And now 4.4.3 coming. See what happened there.
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SymbioticGenius said:
I had unlimited on Verizon for years. Now I have unlimited on T-Mobile for half the price.
I don't have much of an issue with Samsung's build quality. Their radios suck and their phones are locked tighter than fort "Knox"
With the money I've saved I could have bought a new Nexus5 or MotoX every three months. At first I had both in fact.
It's just interesting to see so many people band together to spend money to circumvent a company when they could easily save money and drop the company altogether.
You'd be shocked how quick Verizon would allow unlocked phones if everyone left them for that reason. Although I'm sure they'd try to claim the bounty LOL
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Some of us have no option. Verizon is the only carrier that gets an acceptable signal in my area. AT&T has about 75% of the coverage of Verizon, and all the other carriers get zilch. Plus, I would be throttled in the first day if I had T-Mobile, grandfathered unlimited data is amazing!

Basically the exploit was outed by several people so it then became useless to jcase so he went ahead and released it now if someone figures out write protection my life will be completed.
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thelogman said:
Basically the exploit was outed by several people so it then became useless to jcase so he went ahead and released it now if someone figures out write protection my life will be completed.
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Which is exactly why I'm not updating to 4.4.3

thelogman said:
... now if someone figures out write protection my life will be completed.
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I hate to be a pessimist, but I don't think its going to happen. Here is why..
With the successor to the X being announced as coming later this year, the market saturation of the X has likely reached its peak.
Combine that with sales like today/tomorrow's $100 off 32gig, bringing the Dev Edition down to $349.99 (plus taxes), less if you use the JB rebate thing, so the cost to get an X with an unlockable bootloader is more reasonable. And unlocked bootloader doesn't need to worry about exploits.
Add in the number who got an unlock code for the ATT, VZW and Republic Wireless from the Chinese Site/Middleman, and the audience for a root/write protection disabled for locked bootloader again shrinks.
And to top it off... With 4.4.3 rolling out, any exploit left in 4.4.2 was likely patched too, like the root exploit was, so they'd have to start over... i.e. they are trying to hit a moving target with root and write protect disable on locked bootloaders.
So is it worth the time/effort, even with the bounty being offered?

We need help from Original Axon 7 Developers If we want Root and Roms we need to give

We need help from Developers who has worked on the Original (ZTE Axon 7) 5.5 Version. If we want our devices Rooted and Custom Roms we need to give every good developer that works hard for this community, we need to give them something to work for. We need to give them a Bounty if they can suceed in unlocing our bootloader and rooting our ZTE Axon 7 Mini.
Please pledge whatever you can afford even if its $5 the bounty will go to whoever can get our device rooted and unlock our bootloader.
LIST OF PLEDGES - PLEASE POST YOUR PLEDGES
drvsbsm - $20
So we are left to our great developers to make this happen. So place your pledges
I will keep this thread updated with all pledges that the people have made just post your pledge and I will add it to this first post. If you pledge, it will help. Developers have lives and they deserve to be compensated for thier time, we have really good developers and one of them will crack this for us. If someone happens to find a cheap Axon 7 Mini it would most likely help our developers crack our phone so they can work with the device and crack this phone, I know that if we dont get root or an unlocked bootloader this phone was really not worth it in my opinion and I will never buy from ZTE again unless they change thier policy and give us the same rights as they gave the Original Axon 7.

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Please pledge whatever you can afford even if its $5 the bounty will go to whoever can get our device rooted and unlock our bootloader.
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Put me down for $20 to first developer who shows us how to root our device.

pennhaven said:
Put me down for $20 to first developer who shows us how to root our device.
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i have no problem with this either...... I have already heard UnjustifiedDev say he was going to receive his mini sometime this week and hopefully it won't be long thereafter. Says he's waiting for his device and N update to get started.

Put me down for $5. I just got my zte Axon 7 mini and really like it. Especially for only paying 199. But I can't believe we don't have twrp, or any roms. But maybe there waiting for nougat which is right around the corner.

According to UnjustifiedDev, Mini's are very hard to get right now and the ZTE development team for it is different than the Axon7 team. I would be happy to add $20 to this bounty,but it looks like we may have to raise the funds just to get a device in his hands so he can have a device to work WITH. Any ideas for this to happen would be greatly appreciated i'm sure,but if he can't get a device,then we are pretty much stuck.

So we have 45 as of now? I believe that Best buy is still selling them for 199.99. Like 215 with tax. I think that is the cheapest you can get right now.
Edit:. Just looked on eBay and thee are a few for 168. And no tax

We need a lot more people participating
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So we have 45 as of now? I believe that Best buy is still selling them for 199.99. Like 215 with tax. I think that is the cheapest you can get right now.
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It would be nice to get a large group together to finance this,but a lot of the people on the ZTE forums who own a mini are participating in the nougat beta test,so i suspect we won't hear anything from them for awhile.
Maybe we can get a worldwide group together and make it happen.

Chavob said:
Maybe we can get a worldwide group together and make it happen.
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we can call it WWF ( world wide funding ) root for the ZTE axon 7 mini!
Technically a non profit organization
Count me in if you know how to organize it

World Wide Funding
nebula37 said:
we can call it WWF ( world wide funding ) root for the ZTE axon 7 mini!
I don't have a clue how to organize it. But hopefully someone here does. I would hate to have to sell off my sweet little Mini for an upgrade before it's time.
Technically a non profit organization
Count me in if you know how to organize it
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Lol. Good one

i'll make a decent pledge in a few days when i get money. alternatively.. i would temporarily donate my 7 mini if i were 100% guaranteed to get it back in working condition, i like this phone but it still feels so ..empty. if that's in the realm of possibility, let me know!

I pledge $25 to developers to help Root this device & get TWRP.
I purchased this phone this week. I like the phone. The phone is really a good value for what you pay for it. Very well made, quality materials, construction & decent specs for the price.
Very disappointed to find out that there is no TWRP Recovery & No Root for ZTE Axon 7 Mini (B2017G).

Put me down for $10 also.

got my money up, put me down for $40!! so worth it.

This is looking really good!!! If you know a friend who is a dveloper and has worked onZTE devices before that might be a good start.

140 total
Many small numbers make one big

I'll Put down $10

Shoot, I'll do $20

You can get the axon 7 mini for 140 off swappa. There is 2 listing right now for 155, But i'm sure you can negotiate 140. Then send the phone to the dev. Looks like there is enough pledged for that now.

I´ll put 5 bucks, i dont have a job right now, but want root

[Bootloader and Root Pot For S8/S8+ SD]

I know that eventually one dev with have the time to root and possibly find a way to unlock the bootloader. I am starting this pot for the dev/s that can pull this off and maybe even get us some TWRP for ROMing.
I'll put down:
$25 for working root
$45 for a unlocked bootloader
And $100 for root, bootloader and TWRP
I do this for because I can't and to motive development.

good luck
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If no one has figured out how to unlock the S7 by now then this one isn't getting unlocked either.......

SBERG117 said:
If no one has figured out how to unlock the S7 by now then this one isn't getting unlocked either.......
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That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.

billydroid said:
That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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There has been nothing to show that anyone is remotely close to unlocking the bootloader. Yes... anything is possible but this has been going on for a long while now. The devs that work on stuff here are uber talented, no doubt. It just doesn't look good at this point...

These bounties are pointless now-a-days. Samsung KNOX has a bug bounty program, they also work with Bug Crowd and HackerOne. Each of these programs offer some nice size payouts to people who find vulnerabilities in Samsung Products. Bootloader exploits would be a rather huge payout, because Samsung doesn't want people messing with the chance to make money on Samsung Pay. So IF there ever is a bootloader unlock discovered, pray said hacker does not go the way of the coin and still favors the open source community. Samsung is no ones fool, they'd gladly pay out a few $100,000 to some random dude in Russia than to loose out on secure devices that investors know has no current exploit for unlocking.
Or, I could be full of it, and we get our bootloaders unlocked tonight! While the porn star of our dreams gets cured of anything that AJAX can't get rid of, gives us the best night of our collective lives and.... the hot pocket we pull out of the microwave does not burn our mouths or have a frozen center. (here's hoping)

Love the positivity at the end but you are partially right. Money is what usually drives things now and maybe for developers as well seeing as this is a hobby more than a job, but I have seen some developers dedicated to this line of work (ie the M7SPR forums where they are on nougat on a 2013 device).

ShadowDXS said:
These bounties are pointless now-a-days. Samsung KNOX has a bug bounty program, they also work with Bug Crowd and HackerOne. Each of these programs offer some nice size payouts to people who find vulnerabilities in Samsung Products. Bootloader exploits would be a rather huge payout, because Samsung doesn't want people messing with the chance to make money on Samsung Pay. So IF there ever is a bootloader unlock discovered, pray said hacker does not go the way of the coin and still favors the open source community. Samsung is no ones fool, they'd gladly pay out a few $100,000 to some random dude in Russia than to loose out on secure devices that investors know has no current exploit for unlocking.
Or, I could be full of it, and we get our bootloaders unlocked tonight! While the porn star of our dreams gets cured of anything that AJAX can't get rid of, gives us the best night of our collective lives and.... the hot pocket we pull out of the microwave does not burn our mouths or have a frozen center. (here's hoping)
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Interesting info. Thanks.
I only got the S8+ because I got tired of LG being so behind on technology and innovation. LG has usually always been rootable.
Hopefully the Pixel 2 will be better than this S8+ and be carried on T-Mobile. Pretty sure the few last remaining devs with superior skills on XDA will focus on that device.
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billydroid said:
That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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And sometimes not...
S7 is over a year old and hows that progressing for an unlock?
Security gets harder to work around each year..the days of things like safestrap and Loki are over
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force70 said:
And sometimes not...
S7 is over a year old and hows that progressing for an unlock?
Security gets harder to work around each year..the days of things like safestrap and Loki are over
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It's a matter of demand. The iPhone gets jail broken every time. The exynos version don't have to deal with this and have root and unlocked bl. That causes the need to be diminished. It's software and it can be cracked. It's a matter of getting the attention of people with the extreme skills to do it. I'm sure jcase and company could do it. But it is alot if work and they don't need the headache, understandable. But maybe since this phone sales are way higher than the S7 we might get it this time around. Coupled with the fact that every update breaks the process , if there is one. Who wants to deal with that?
No software security is foolproof, it just isn't. That doesn't mean someone will find the way. But it certainly is possible

My prediction, having seen how things are since the days of gakaxy note 1, is that 1) there will be no unlocking of the bootloader 2) an engineering kernel will leak soon which will allow rooting (like it happened for s7).
With all the flexibility worked into these newer phones reasons for rooting have become much fewer. I rooted my s7 when the rootable kernel became available but the kernel was buggy and needed a lot of tweaking, and some of my apps didn't work well with the root so I reverted. Honestly the phone ran so smoothly on the stock rom that I never missed root.

thowersome said:
I know that eventually one dev with have the time to root and possibly find a way to unlock the bootloader. I am starting this pot for the dev/s that can pull this off and maybe even get us some TWRP for ROMing.
I'll put down:
$25 for working root
$45 for a unlocked bootloader
And $100 for root, bootloader and TWRP
I do this for because I can't and to motive development.
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why would you mirror what's already being done?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/bounty-thread-snapdragon-usa-variants-t3598271

hazmad said:
why would you mirror what's already being done?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/bounty-thread-snapdragon-usa-variants-t3598271
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Hey thanks for the links but check your dates on when posts are made. This post was made 04/25/2017 and the linked post was made 04/29/2017. I don't care which post gets followed as long as someone can help the forum. Not trying to be an @$$ but always study sources before posting.

thowersome said:
Hey thanks for the links but check your dates on when posts are made. This post was made 04/25/2017 and the linked post was made 04/29/2017. I don't care which post gets followed as long as someone can help the forum. Not trying to be an @$$ but always study sources before posting.
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Post dates are like instruction manuals - I ignore them
These carrier sub-forums get little traffic. If you had posted this to the Main S8+ page, you would have been golden